Golden Tate Catch: Frame-by-Frame Look and the NFL Rule Book
Golden Tate’s dramatic touchdown/interception has been the subject of much hyperbole. Last night, Steve Young said that a touchdown was the player clutching it against the chest. That’s not in the rule book as defining who has control and who does not.
I thought we could take a frame by frame (well, 8 frames apart, it would be too long if we went each frame) at the play, while also examining the relevant portions of the rulebook.
First, for the relevant portions of the rulebook. Here is Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 5.
Item 5: Simultaneous Catch. If a pass is caught simultaneously by two eligible opponents, and both players retain it, the ball belongs to the passers. It is not a simultaneous catch if a player gains control first and an opponent subsequently gains joint control. If the ball is muffed after simultaneous touching by two such players, all the players of the passing team become eligible to catch the loose ball.
From that, we learn that one player gaining control, and another player later gaining control is not simultaneous possession.
In addition the Casebook lists specific cases. Well, I say the Casebook, but it’s the 2011 version. I can find no Casebook yet for 2012. I’ve asked for clarification and will update, but I don’t think they did away with the Casebook. Surely not.
There are five “approved rulings” related to hypotheticals dealing with simultaneous possession that inform our interpretation of the rule. (A.R. 8.24 to A.R. 8.29). The relevant ones:
A.R. 8.25: First-and-10 on A20. A2 and B3 simultaneously control a pass in the air at the A40. As they land, both players land on their feet and wrestle for the ball on their feet. Eventually, B3 takes the ball away from A2 and is tackled at the A38.
Ruling: B’s ball, first-and-10 on A38. Until one of the players in simultaneous possession of the ball goes to the ground or out of bounds, the ball remains alive.
A.R. 8.26: First-and-10 on A20. A2 and B3 simultaneously control a pass in the air at the A40. As they land, one or both players fall down to the ground.
Ruling: A’s ball, first-and-10 on A40. The ball is dead.
A.R. 8.29: First-and-10 on A20. B3 controls a pass in the air at the A40 before A2, who then also controls the ball before they land. As they land, A2 and B3 fall down to the ground.
Ruling: B’s ball, first-and-10 on A40. Not a simultaneous catch as B3 gains control first and retains control.
I’ve seen people reference a shot on the ground, where Tate’s arm is off the ball. Irrelevant. The key questions are who gained control, and when, and then when the play is dead for purposes of the players still wrestling for the ball. Here’s an 8-frame look at the ball arriving in the sea of hands, until the players are on the ground.
The ball arriving:
The players falling:
Still falling
And falling, hands on ball:
Is the right arm of Tate starting to come off? It looks like it in super slo mo:
Tate back on ball, both going to ground:
Both continuing to ground:
Tate getting ready to hitting ground, both wrapped on ball:
Continuing on to the ground, Tate’s butt hits:
By this point, play is dead per rule and simultaneous possession either is or is not established.
Last night, I said I thought it was simultaneous possession in my initial viewings. I now think that Tate’s right arm came off slightly on the way down, and so his control wasn’t established again until after it went back on (sixth picture down). He did have his hands on ball right away, and he did have possession when they contacted the ground. If his right hand had not come off for a split second on the fall, I think it is simultaneous possession by rule, regardless of what happened on the ground twisting around. There is no such thing as a player having more control than the other based on having it near his chest. It was a bang-bang play.
The outcry is as much about the overall view of the officials and the high leverage of the situation. Many have been waiting for a key moment, they’ve got it. In truth, this non-sense needs to end because of the grind of every game, the bad game administration and conferences, and the bad calls, most of which far outweigh this on a competency scale. Heck, the offensive pass interference is the key call here. Not only did Tate take out one player, he took out two with a shove, clearing his path for the leap and the controversy.
But if we get a blowup out of this, so be it. I’m ready for some football. I’m skeptical that people are actually going to stop watching because of this though.
[photos via Michael Shamburger]

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September 25th, 2012 at 2:26 PM
Analysis of the Golden Tate “catch” >>>>>>> Analysis of the Zapruder film
September 25th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
weak ass captions, Lisk.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:29 PM
well, except for the top one. that one’s funny.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Man, how do the officiating controversies always find A2? That dude is a magnet for trouble.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:32 PM
I’m listening…
/Coop’d
September 25th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Back, and to the left.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
That’s a terrible angle to look at. You can’t see the ball in the last 4 or 5 frames.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Great caption by the way
September 25th, 2012 at 2:36 PM
Really hope the guy taping the whole thing with his phone immediately dropped it in the aftermath…the game was televised, what are you providing anyone with the view from your shitty seats?
September 25th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
Aaron Rodgers on Milwaukee radio. Listen here: http://espn.go.com/espnradio/affPopup?s=wauk-am
He’s firing away at the NFL.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Lets be honest. The real refs would’ve probably made the same call. However, the real refs would’ve called offensive PI on Rice and defense PI on Woodson earlier in the drive.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:38 PM
Golden Taint…Legend
September 25th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Haha, sure they would’ve.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:39 PM
Guy filming with phone: LIVE YOUR LIFE. SHIT IS HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. PUT IT AWAY.
/Louis CK
September 25th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
You’re right. Charles Woodson never gets called for anything.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
Golden Taint = Notre Taint
September 25th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Throwing this ref-gate aside.
DEAR GREEN BAY,
Sure you can blame the refs all you want. You really lost the game because you let Seattle pin their ears back and make your all world quarterback their personal mung rag. It was funny to see Aaron Rodgers running around wondering if he was about to be Schaub’d by the Seattle defense because the old timey western saloon doors you trotted out as an offensive line couldn’t hold a four man rush.
Besides whatever happened to KNOCKING THE BALL DOWN on a Hail Mary.
Sorry you’re 2-2. Good luck against the Saints.
Trey
September 25th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Anyone else using scrolling throw the screen captures like a flip book while berating a co-worker that this is how he lost money?
September 25th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Ask Tennessee how well that worked out.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Magic football >>>>>>>> magic bullet.
I’ll wait until Oliver Stone makes some shitty movie alleging replacement refs conspired with Mayfield who took Seattle.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Fuck.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
I really need Duffy to weigh in with some insufferable comment about Michigan’s righteousness. Can we have that?
September 25th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Yeah, not well. They’re Tennessee though. They should have known this type of stuff was coming when they assassinated Steve McNair while enjoying an evening with his mistress.
September 25th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
So are two hands needed for control?
September 25th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Gotta complete the process! Why don’t the real refs just become full-time employees, drop their unrealistic pension demands, take a slight raise and return for the love of the game?
September 25th, 2012 at 3:00 PM
That was #37′s job but he was too busy being shoved to the ground. I having seen a pushoff on a game winning play that blatant since Jordan threw Russell to the ground.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
having = haven’t
September 25th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Sorry you’re 2-2. Good luck against the Saints
No they’re not.
And they didn’t allow a sack in the second half. And the only time Seattle moved the ball in the second half was thanks to crap PI/roughing penalties (that also took a game changing INT away). Nice comment though.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Must have missed that new rule where games end at halftime.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
“There is no such thing as a player having more control than the other based on having it near his chest.” There is also no rule saying that you cannot have control of the ball with one hand. Tate taking his hand off of the ball for a fraction of a second does not prevent simultaneous possession. As unpopular as it was, the refs actually made the correct call under the simultaneous possession rule.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
TREY?
September 25th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Tate didn’t possess the ball therefore it can’t be simultaneous…people are overthinking this
September 25th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
I didn’t understand this comment
September 25th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Even if this is 100% fact, it’s still a moot point due to the missed pass interference which ends the game.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Dont forget, the Packers 2nd TD drive was aided on a horrible PI call against Seattle on Finley.
But yeah Packer fans, forget that part.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
Also, you scored
September 25th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
I wonder if we woulda’ heard “let the players decide the game on the field!!” if it had been called.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
FUCK, nevermind.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf
September 25th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
The people like Babar 2.0 and instant35 want you to prove a negative. They want you to show that Tate didn’t possess the ball. It’s a deflection because they can’t show in any of the available evidence whether it be still photos, gifs, or video, that Tate possessed the ball simultaneously as Jennings. The best they’ve got is he touched the ball, and you can’t show he didn’t possess it, because his left arm is somewhere you can’t see.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
In its statement, the NFL dismissed reports that the ref in charge posted on Facebook that he was a “huge” Seahawks fan, and also that he mentioned to Golden Tate before the game that Tate was on his fantasy team.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Bingo.
/Thought it was a catch last night anyway
September 25th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
For Lexington Steele, yes.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Luck isn’t needed against the Aints, as the NFL is conspiring against them, amirite?
September 25th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
If you do not play a perfect football game, you deserve to lose.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
They should have known this type of stuff was coming when they assassinated Steve McNair while enjoying an evening with his mistress.
Feel like this was an attempt at humor?
September 25th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Packer fans werent whining about this BS in 2010, you know, the year they made the playoffs by one game?
September 25th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
49er fans can’t count to 2 apparently since GB only scored 1 TD.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
We Niner fans aint too smart. We root for the Niners.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
The people like Babar 2.0 and instant35 want you to prove a negative.
God doesn’t exist.
Prove it.
/This is getting to that point.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:28 PM
God doesn’t exist.
Prove it.
Pats fans.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
No. But if you don’t play a perfect game you don’t get the right to publicly blame the officials. That’s a bitch way to handle things at least.
HEY HOW ABOUT SCORING MORE POINTS???
September 25th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
HEY HOW ABOUT SCORING MORE POINTS???
that’s as lazy an argument as blaming the officials.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Proof.
September 25th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
So. It’s more in your control.
My problem is this. This call wasn’t as OPEN and SHUT as people are making it. In fact it could have EASILY been made by the “regular refs”. So for the Packers to get on the internet and blame the refs is fucking stupid.
Everyone is being a total bitch about this story.
The Media is just throwing all sorts of bullshit at us because it’s the “moment” they’ve been looking for since the replacements took the field.
I know I’ve joked that they’ve been fine to get a rise out of people. Seriously, they suck. That being said. I can’t point at this catch, as being blame worthy. It was a legit close call.
Now the PI? That sucked, but missed call happen everywhere. It’s when they get the rules wrong. That’s when they should be attacked.
Moving on.
September 25th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
I now think that Tate’s right arm came off slightly on the way down, and so his control wasn’t established again until after it went back on (sixth picture down)
I dont’ know how you didn’t see this last night, Jason Lisk. While Tate is trying to possess the ball, the other guy already possessed the ball. And once one guy already possesses the ball, the only way for Tate to possess the ball would be to dispossess the defender of the ball. Which he didn’t.
It was clear in real time that Williams caught/intercepted it. It was laughably clear via replay. It was also clear that neither of those two dumb officials had any idea what to do once they arrived at different conclusions several seconds later, and decided to punt the decision. And they assumed (quickly and irrationally) that the only way to get it reviewed was to call it touchdown.
Also, this frame by frame is sure from a far away camera angle. And you can’t even see where Tate’s arm came off as they were coming down from their jumps, but it did.
And at the end, Tate is down under the guy who has the ball, all the way under, while the guy on top of his is busy possessing the ball. And tate squirrels up with his hands to try and put on a show for these dumb, overmatched refs.
September 25th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
My problem is this. This call wasn’t as OPEN and SHUT as people are making it. In fact it could have EASILY been made by the “regular refs”. So for the Packers to get on the internet and blame the refs is fucking stupid.
I disagree. And if it was the regular refs, they probably rule it an INT, knowing that it’s getting reviewed regardless. Because if one guy sees it as not a touchdown, then you don’t want to be calling it a touchdown.
I also think the real refs get there in less than several seconds.
September 25th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
Actually the line of thinking is that you wanna call anything close and not concrete a TD, since all scoring plays are automatically reviewed.
September 25th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
Actually the line of thinking is that you wanna call anything close and not concrete a TD, since all scoring plays are automatically reviewed.
that’s the initial thought, sure. But this was not only inside the last two minutes (all plays are reviewable in the booth), it was also either a turnover (all plays are reviewed) or a touchdown (all plays are reviewed).
There’s no way this wasn’t getting reviewed. But those two morons who were the refs only had a split second to decide what to actually call, despite their differing views, and they did what you did. Chose the path that they felt ensured review. But all paths led to review.
September 26th, 2012 at 2:20 AM
Everything boils down to what the NFL rules state:
Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3 of the NFL Rule Book defines a catch:
A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:
(A) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(B) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(C) maintains control of the ball long enough, after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to perform any act common to the game.
I think in this situation the key to the call is section (B). M.D. Jennings & Golden Tate both have their hands on the ball while in the air. It does not matter what happens while they are coming down back into the field of play. If you look at frames (6)thru (10) as stated above, you can clearly tell that Golden Tate has two hands on the ball & both feet down, while M.D. Jennings only has one foot down on the ground. We can all blame this on the replacement refs, but this is even a tough call for the real NFL refs. There were plenty of calls throughout that influenced the outcome of the game, but everyone wants to focus on this call. The fact the NFL backed the call says everything. This call was reviewed by an (NFL) offical not a replacement offical and still was not overturned. Everyone needs to just move on and stop making excuses.
September 26th, 2012 at 7:22 AM
You also must look at Jennings feet. Tates arm comes off and then he regains the football BEFORE Jennings ever gets his 2nd foot down. Jennings must have two feet down to complete a catch.
September 26th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
I don’t get how anyone can read the rule on what constitutes possession of the ball during a pass & catch and NOT see Tate had possession of the ball first.
Section 2
PLAYER POSSESSION
Article 7
A player is in possession when he is in firm grip and control of the ball inbounds (See 3-2-3).
To gain possession of a loose ball (3-2-3) that has been caught, intercepted, or recovered, a player must have complete control of the ball and have both feet or any other part of his body, other than his hands, completely on the ground inbounds, and maintain control of the ball long enough to perform any act common to the game.
If the player loses the ball while simultaneously touching both feet or any other part of his body to the ground or if there is any doubt that the acts were simultaneous, there is no possession.
This rule applies in the field of play and in the end zone.
Jennings may have had both his hands on the ball first but Jennings was CLEARLY in the air when Tate got both hands grasping the ball AND BOTH his feet were on the ground. By that definition of possession of the ball was first established by Tate. The only argument against this rule is those who say Tate never had “complete control” of the ball. I disagree with that argument because since Tate had his left hand between Jennings arms & hands and thus had his hand on the ball at the same time Jennings grabbed it, Jennings does not have ‘complete control’ of the ball at any time during the process of the catch. And like the replay shows, Tate established possession of the ball first by virtue of having both hands on the ball AND both feet on the ground first.
I hate to admit it because I wanted the Packers to win and I was initially shocked at the call but in doing my due diligence and researching the rules and the video frame-by-frame, the replacement officials got the possession call correct.
That being said, the officials clearly got it wrong by not calling Tate for offensive pass interference. But that’s not reviewable nor what everyone is arguing about…
September 27th, 2012 at 5:53 PM
This article was SO close, but then missed it with a small, but crucial error. Namely … Tate’s right hand being on the ball doesn’t necessarily matter. A single hand (Tate’s left hand, which is on the ball the entire time) can be sufficient for “control” of the ball. Wide receivers can catch balls and gain control with one hand, running backs (any Chuck Muncie videos around?) can, and used to all the time, run around with a ball palmed in a single hand. As Tate’s left hand seemed to have a “say” in the play from start to finish, it could be said that he shared control of the ball (albeit Tate with LESS control, which also does not matter for this rule) with Jennings the entire time until he completed the catch.