Roundup: The Steelers are Fighting, Jennifer Aniston is Engaged & Watch the NYPD Shoot and Kill a Man in Times Square
Jennifer Aniston, because she got engaged … the New Yorker on Paul Ryan … Toronto police are investigating this video of a guy urinating on a homeless man … marketing is dead … the Insane Clown Posse vs. the FBI … a photo of a partially-shirtless Mark Zuckerberg … racial profiling by the TSA … Wayne Bridge’s WAG has nice stems … Romney’s guy Paul Ryan has the body fat of a pro athlete … “Chinese Tries to Smuggle Deer Genitals in Purse” …
How come this Pittsburgh Steelers training camp rumble isn’t leading Sportscenter? [Post-Gazette]
As in-depth a profile you’ll find on Vikings’ QB Christian Ponder. [1500 ESPN]
The USA-Japan women’s Olympic gold medal game drew a higher rating than any Stanley Cup game on NBC Sports Network. [NBC Universal]
CC Sabathia heads to the DL. His elbow is inflamed. [NYDN]
Lane Kiffin relinquishes his vote in the coach’s poll following last week’s debacle. [USA Today]
College football’s All-Castoff team probably wins nine games playing an SEC schedule, right? [CBS Sports]
This is about an Auburn football player: ” … High guidance counselor admitted to creating a fraudulent transcript for a former athlete at the school and has resigned.” [Commercial Appeal]
The Rays have won six in a row to surge ahead of the Orioles in the AL East. [St. Pete Times]
“The 1992 team averaged 117.3 points and won its games by an average of 43.8 points. The 2012 team … averaged a similar point total (115.5) but a slimmer margin (32.1).” [WSJ]
Former boxer Michael Dokes is dead at 54. [Boxing Scene]
Mitch Kupchak had a great summer, bringing in Steve Nash and then Dwight Howard. [OC Register]
“… the London games have been a “nudge” Olympics, where locals and visitors have been coaxed rather than coerced.” [Economist]
Rajon Rondo has some hops.
Walk-on at Vanderbilt gets a scholarship. Very cool.
Watch the NYPD pump nine bullets into a knife-wielding lunatic in Times Square.
This alligator grabbed a trainer by the arm and wouldn’t let go for 21 seconds. “Things happen,” his partner says.
- Former UFC Fighter Waylon Lowe Suing Philly Sex Shop After a Gel Left His Genitals Burned and Scarred
- Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
- The Time Has Come for Replay in Baseball, But Bud & Co. Have to Get it Right
- David Beckham: Ignore Revisionist History, He Was One of the Greats
- Jose Canseco Is Being Investigated by Las Vegas Police for Sexual Assault
- ms621 on Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
- GloriousMullet on Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
- cleet on Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
- Ty_Webb on Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
- ms621 on Brian Urlacher: Combining Old School and New School in Chicago, and Probably a Spot in Canton
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August 13th, 2012 at 8:33 AM
Tebow wasnt there
August 13th, 2012 at 8:34 AM
Seriously looking forward to TBL’s follow-up report on the UNC academic scandal this week, especially after the discovery of Julius Pepper’s transcript by an NC State message board community.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
He truly is the Sarah Palin for women this time around.. without the ‘saying dumb stuff’ thing, yet.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:39 AM
remember the tease last week in the roundup? ha.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:40 AM
Tried to watch that Times Square video but I had a seizure 30 seconds in. Keep the phone still, man, damn. Where’s a Russian dashcam when you need one?
Still can’t quite figure out why Paul Ryan agreed to be Romney’s running mate.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:42 AM
Nice cleavage shot. Been catching some Friends in syndication lately. She looks as good as she did 10-15 years ago. Giddy-up
August 13th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
shocking
August 13th, 2012 at 8:43 AM
So he can be the frontrunner for the republican nomination in 4 years
August 13th, 2012 at 8:45 AM
I thought about that but I’m not sure he can beat Rubio, Christie, et al if they decide to throw their hats in the ring. He’s not a very charismatic guy, and while his budget policies are a conservative’s wet dream, I’m not sure he has the network or the broad appeal to capture the presidency.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:46 AM
don’t think he has a shot in 4 years when he makes chris christie look moderate on most policy decisions.
he’s a male version of michelle bachman, same crazy policy ideas, less crazy eyes.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Rays will make their move and win the AL East now (healthy-ish Longoria + best pitching in AL East)
August 13th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
I also don’t get what Romney gains from Ryan other than some additional base support, which was is no danger of voting for Obama anyway.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
If his strong anti-abortion stance doesn’t undermine his physical attractiveness, that is.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:49 AM
or, it backfires – they lose the election, it isn’t that close, and the stench of a loss completely takes him out of the running for the 2016 bid. i agree with this guy:
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
A generation from now, we’re going to look back and be astonished/disgusted that we allowed the national championship participants to be decided by college football coaches. How we’re still OK with this is beyond me.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:50 AM
a distraction from the tax issue and a short term bump in polling, but neither will last long.
i guess he didn’t want a ticket of two old white men…?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:51 AM
How come this Pittsburgh Steelers training camp rumble isn’t leading Sportscenter?
Because fights happen in every camp, and this wasn’t a ticklefight with a back-up fullback in a red jersey.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:52 AM
Also, that Vandy video is pretty sweet. Loved his stunned reaction.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
Barring some late-fall surprise, Romney will lose. Not a rout, but as convincingly as you can lose in this hyperpartisan world. That said, Romney didn’t even make it out of the primary in 2008 and is now the nominee. So it goes both ways.
Ryan is still on the ballot in Wisconsin, so even if/when he loses he’ll remain in Congress.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:53 AM
He saves himself from a chaotic Convention by selecting a radical conservative to appease the far right as his running mate. It may not help him in the general election, but it stabilizes his party’s base.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:54 AM
So he can be the frontrunner for the republican nomination in 4 years
If Romney loses, I can’t see Ryan getting his own nomination. When was the last time a failed VP candidate got his party’s nomination next time around, let alone won the presidency?
The only way Ryan COULD get the nod in 2016 is if there’s a particularly weak GOP field. But with Christie, Rubio, maybe Portman and other guys possibly in the mix, I don’t see it happening.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:55 AM
I dont think most dudes cared about that when wanting to bone Palin
August 13th, 2012 at 8:55 AM
his physical attractiveness, that is.
this I don’t get. I keep hearing people say that Paul Ryan is attractive, but they mean attractive for a politician, right? Because that dude has a weird head. I horrible as I find Sarah Palin the person, she is a good looking lady.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:56 AM
She looks as good as she did 10-15 years ago.
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/all the politics I got in me today
August 13th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
Paul Ryan … “believes abortion should be illegal even in cases of rape and incest”
Will any Republican touch that?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:57 AM
One of the signature portions of Ryan’s budget proposal is tax relief (his bill brings in $2.2 trillion less in taxes compared to Obama, and cuts taxes by $10 trillion over a decade). Hell, Romney would pay no taxes under Ryan’s plan. I can’t imagine putting this guy on the ticket will alleviate calls for Romney to show his returns. If anything, it will only intensify.
Also, he’s got to release them at some point, right? Before the debates?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:58 AM
Wouldn’t Rand Paul fit that description better?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:59 AM
i’m curious to see what happens should the GOP lose this election… do they get more moderate when they realize they are alienating women, seniors and hispanics with their stances on health care and immigration… or do they get more extreme by catering to the old white guy demographic while enacting more illegal voter id laws?
August 13th, 2012 at 8:59 AM
Nah, but Biden is going to hammer him over the head with it in the VP debate.
August 13th, 2012 at 8:59 AM
you’re asking this thread to get nasty?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Fair, in general. She wasn’t (isn’t?) attractive in my opinion and her being a politician makes me completely write her off.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:00 AM
Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubio
August 13th, 2012 at 9:01 AM
This happens? We’re stuck with one of them. It seems a waste of time.
/not a voter
August 13th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
They alienated women, seniors and hispanics in 2008. Their solution was to double down on that approach. Barring new, more moderate leadership I don’t see anything changing for quite some time, especially if a lot of Tea Baggers keep their House seats.
Which is so dumb, because if Republicans nominated a competent moderate conservative they’d win these future elections with landslide margins.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:02 AM
he also co-sponsored one of those crazy personhood bills in his homestate and voted for a bill that would make it illegal to provide an abortion in emergency cases where the mother’s life is on the line.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Not being poor or a woman I’m all set for Paul Ryan’s America to be put into action
August 13th, 2012 at 9:03 AM
Yeah, and it’s great because the VPs only job is to be the attack dog and say all the shit that the presidential candidates can’t say. Highly recommended viewing.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
Does seem like a pretty cushy gig all in all.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:07 AM
Plus it’ll be a Catholic v Catholic fight.. I’d be surprised if that didnt come up at some point.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:08 AM
Plus it’ll be a Catholic v Catholic fight
This ever happened before? Does it matter? (Honest question)
August 13th, 2012 at 9:09 AM
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Democracy simply doesn’t work
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Religion is touchy. Romney is in a cult and everyone is scared to bring it up. Which is great – religion should never be a factor in choosing a candidate. I’m just surprised Dems aren’t working behind the scenes to bring Mormonism to the forefront.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
I counted 11 shots.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:10 AM
Which is so dumb, because if Republicans nominated a competent moderate conservative they’d win these future elections with landslide margins.
The Republican leadership is scared of the bat shit crazy religious right because they turn out for elections. Most republicans I know are more moderate but the candidates have to appeal to the fundamentalists. This will be 2 elections in row where this strategy is a loser but I doubt they will learn from it.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
The liberal media would have you believe that it happened in 2008, but we all know that Black Hussien Osama is a secret Muslim dedicated to imposing Sharia Law.
/MikeNYC
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
which, honestly, is a good thing when the crazy fundamentalists can’t carry an election.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
those were echoes you heard!
/JFK’d
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
No one bats 1.000
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
I doubt Obama will touch it but won’t be surprised if we see some reference to it in a campaign ad that a group of Dems put out closer to the election
August 13th, 2012 at 9:12 AM
Chris Christie is going to be the GOP nominee in 4 years. Book it.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Ryan is definitely going to energize the ultra-conservative crowd, but I don’t really know why his radical ideas on budget reform would appeal to the “undecided” crowd. Romney has clearly stated that his budget (it’s a lot less radical than Ryan’s) would be the one they go with.
To me, the funniest thing is that Ryan is going to be blasting the Health Care bill by Obama, but it is essentially Romney’s plan for Mass. This to me is just funny.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
which, honestly, is a good thing when the crazy fundamentalists can’t carry an election.
True dat.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
This ever happened before? Does it matter? (Honest question)
well, the Catholic bishops have said that the Ryan budget’s proposed cuts to social services “fail to meet the moral standard” (or something close to that). so that could be a thing.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:14 AM
remember the tease last week in the roundup? ha. McIntyre
Yes.
Cool Vandy video.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Yeah, same here. I actually think this hyperpartisanship will die down in another generation or two as the religious fundamentalists die off and the current crop of far-right media asshats retire. Some smart moderate conservative will come along and take the reins away from the loons. When the strategy turns out to be a winning one, that will mark the end of far-right lunacy for a long time.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
You don’t know the same Republicans I know…
Depending upon if he wins NJ next year.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:15 AM
Don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:18 AM
Abortions for some, Minuature (sp?) American Flags for others!
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
shocked if he lost.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Yup, there really has never been a ‘perfect’ Catholic candidate in the Church’s eyes. You’d have to have the social services/welfare plans of a Democrat mixed with the pro life plans of a Republican. Never would happen.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:19 AM
Thought the Aniston pic would be one of her nipping out on set from last week (use Google, haven’t been here four months yet and don’t want to poke the potential bear)
August 13th, 2012 at 9:21 AM
Former PA governor Bob Casey tried to be all of that.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
You don’t know the same Republicans I know…
Oh, I know several birther, Limbaugh loving, fox news is always right types. You can write these people off. I think there is a still a sizable bloc of republicans that would vote for a good moderate. The republican field the last few years has been pretty sad on this front.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:22 AM
which is why i can’t wait for the debates.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
Ah yes, forgot about him. He probably came the closest.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:23 AM
That’s because he doesn’t live in Pennsylvania.
/overheard a conversation at work 2 weeks ago, where 2 Penn State guys were blaming Sandusky on the liberals and their love of the homos
August 13th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
On vacation on a dairy farm by a lake. First beer in 54321….now
August 13th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
That would be incredibly dumb move by a Democrat PAC. Unless you’re calling someone a Muslim, it’s just stupid for opponent to bring your opponent’s religion as an election topic.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:26 AM
I’m a registered Republican, and I’ve voted 3rd party the last two elections because the party’s options have been disgusting. This year will be no different.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
if all Aniston wanted was to get married, she should convert to Scientology.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
racial profiling by the TSA
Happens to me almost every single time. I just shrug it off.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
unemployment rate in the state is inching up to 10%, he’s got some work to do, tax cuts for the rich won’t settle it.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Didn’t know he was with Frankie Sanford? She’s like new gen Posh Spice, but much hotter.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:28 AM
Cj my wife just started a book named Maine. A novel about sisters and mom and the last name of the author is sullivan
August 13th, 2012 at 9:29 AM
I’m still pretty intrigued as to how Romney managed to become governor in one of the bluest of blue states.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
On vacation on a dairy farm by a lake
Congratulations?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:30 AM
I live in Central PA (Pennsyltucky) and the shit that comes out of people’s mouths just in reference to Obama would make you wonder if you were at a clan rally. The best (i.e. worst) part is that these utterly racist conversations take place in public or over the dinner table like it’s people talking about their day. No shame whatsoever.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
Gary Johnson is still running as an independent, right? Please?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:31 AM
I think I know who Jason is voting for.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
I’m curious how much of the state’s budget is apportioned as a tithe to the Mormons.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
meanwhile, the White boys with the shocking red hair and white power tatts continue to slip on by.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:32 AM
Bear, why go that route? I get not liking either option but you know your guy has zero percent chance of winning, so why vote? Just to exercise your right to do so? Not judging. Genuinely curious.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
jenn aniston, all time #1.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:34 AM
Gary Johnson is still running as an independent, right? Please?
I haven’t heard anything from Lyndon LaRouche. Is he dead?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:35 AM
Visiting Rollo’s SIL?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
As a Libertarian I believe. I’m thinking of going in that direction.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
Because it’s my goddamned right to do so. The problem with Americans is that we think voting outside the corporate bicameral system is “throwing a vote away.” That is fucking bullshit. We can oust the corporations out of Washington, but it’s going to take a collective effort of the people not voting along party lines for a couple of decades. We can flush the shit out, but it will take a real commitment to doing it.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
It’s because they know they’re rapidly falling behind in the face of the changing demographics of this country. Whites will be a majority-minority by 2036 (if not sooner). They fear this.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:36 AM
I just put a pic on twitter and will put more
August 13th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
God, nothing pisses me off more than people resigning themselves to the bipartisan system.
/used bicameral last post, checks calendar, yes it’s Monday.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:37 AM
/sex barn’d
August 13th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Voting for 3rd party=political hipster
/Just kidding
August 13th, 2012 at 9:38 AM
I think there is a still a sizable bloc of republicans that would vote for a good moderate.
That’s what I was hoping going into last Tuesday’s primary. Almost all the moderates got slaughtered. Kansas is going to turn into Brownbackistan within a year. There is nothing to block him in the Senate anymore.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:39 AM
/signs up for Urinal Mint’s newsletter
August 13th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
We can oust the corporations out of Washington, but it’s going to take a collective effort of the people not voting along party lines for a couple of decades
Great idea. Ain’t happenin’. Unless we all get masks
/V for Vendetta’d?
August 13th, 2012 at 9:40 AM
What’s worse than those who think the two party system is the worst thing ever is those naive enough to believe that anyone who has managed to work their way into major office and is running as a third party is actually unbeholden to corporate interests.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:41 AM
The problem with Americans is that we think voting outside the corporate bicameral system is “throwing a vote away.”
Right on. I am an independent, but I registered Republican to vote for the moderates in the primaries. I hear tons of people bitching about the conservatives but refuse to register Republican to vote them out. Fuck that. If enough people game the system, we can flush these ultra-conservative fucks out.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
then the parties will change their system to keep the status quo
/ glass half empty’d
August 13th, 2012 at 9:44 AM
I used to believe this. But the reality is, third-party candidates have lost ground in the last 20 years. They peaked with Perot. Money wins elections these days. Even with SuperPACs, it would take someone who can raise money to compete outside of the corporate political system to viably compete as a third-party candidate because no one throws money behind a sure loser.
2008 Obama is the only guy in the last 50 years who could have won as a third-party candidate. There won’t be another “movement” candidate like him for another 50.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
Actually, Obama couldn’t have won as a third-party candidate in 2008. I take that back. He and Hilary would have split the left/moderate votes and McCain would be in the chair right now.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
Money has always won elections. Perot was relatively succesful because he had his own money. For a third party candidate to win it will take more than money. It will also take having someone who isn’t a 1 issue horse like most of these 3rd party runners are.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:49 AM
then the parties will change their system to keep the status quo
Kansas is different now. The status quo changed last Tuesday. The House and Senate will now be dominated by ultra-conservative Republicans with a superduperultra-conservative Governor. The few moderates and democrats had been able to block some ass backwards. Not anymore.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:50 AM
Only nine? Apparently our police don’t fuck around.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 AM
August 13th, 2012 at 9:51 AM
It makes no sense. To unite the Tea Party vote? Romney has them in his pocket anyways but this has alienated old people. Paul Ryan called medicare an ‘entitlement.’ Calling medicare an entitlement is one way to lose Florida.
Conservatives are doubling down on their extreme positions and just alienating more and more voters that they cannot anti-democratically purge from the voter registry fast enough to keep up.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
What Mint said in #87 is right. A little more practical, is that if a 3rd party candidate gets a certain % of votes, they get included in the debates the next time around.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:55 AM
Still amazed that this story remains so under reported. Even here in PA where GOP members have no qualms announcing — IN PUBLIC — that these laws are designed to deliver the state to Romney, no one cares.
August 13th, 2012 at 9:56 AM
What’s the matter with Kansas, anyway?
/Thomas Frank’ed
August 13th, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Judging from the comments about Ryan’s budget proposal, I take it most of you agree with the sentiments of Timothy Geithner – “We don’t have a definite solution to the long-term problem. What we do know is that we don’t like your’s.”
August 13th, 2012 at 10:05 AM
Ryan shouldn’t get credit for creating a terrible GOP wet dream disguised as a budget. It’s not a solution.
Then again, I don’t take anyone’s solutions seriously unless they include tax hikes on everyone in conjunction with these spending cuts, so maybe I’m not the best barometer.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Problem is stagnant wages/unemployment you need a personal works campaign focusing of infrastructure. Let’s say employ 100,000 to extend the reach of broadband internet. Problem fucking solved. Government debt is not an issue with every investor and their moms buying government bonds. That is where I would start.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:09 AM
Right, because the government isn’t taking enough of our money already. We should entrust them with even more.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:10 AM
I agree, just thinking what his motivation was to accept the position this year. Gives him an opportunity to be known nationally (for better or for worse I suppose).
August 13th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Have we ever truly had spending cuts?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
I just read an article over the weekend that proposed the same concept, but with roads and bridges. Basically, the Build America Bonds that were exceedingly popular have been retired for no reason other than the politicians are too preoccupied with elections to extend them.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:12 AM
you want to start cutting government waste, cutting defense spending is a good place to start. Conservatives run away from defense waste because much of it is taking place within their districts.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:17 AM
The options for where to cut waste are not few. Funny that you’d single out defense when there are countless other areas that could be included.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:20 AM
The government actually receives less tax revenue than ever before.
Democrats are scared to ask for stimulus 2.0, even though our country is crumbling and we can borrow money for almost literally nothing right now.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:21 AM
well really, if you were to get serious about deficit reductions you need to both increase revenue and decrease spending. Cutting the NOA or reducing funding to PP and NPR aint gonna cut it alone.
Someone mentioned military spending and its immediately a non-starter; like a modest reduction in our military spending will automatically make us weak to be attacked by china, russia, NK, Iran etc etc
August 13th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
If you’re serious about cutting the budget, you start with a pie chart and look at the biggest pieces. Defense is the biggest piece. Many of those concerned about the budget like to focus on the less than 1% portion of the pie.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Was stimulus 1.0 a success?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Defense and security related international activites – $718 billion – accounts for 20 percent of domestic spending.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Not sure if this is true or not, but the less the better. I’d like to keep as much of my money as possible.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
A fat dumb jackass become mayor of Toronto on that premise, “Respect For Tax Payers” and would turn off our wasteful gravy train city that is plunging into debt. First thing he did was audit the city, turns out the city budget was spending 96% of it’s budget on absolute essentials. The audit cost $3 million. To cut spending here are some of the solutions:
close libraries and zoos
reduce street cleaning and snow removal
stop fluoridating the water
Eliminate Wheel Trans which helps people with disabilities get around town
This is the crux of the problem. If you asked me how what percentage of city spending was essential i would get 60% and Paul Ryan would say something like 10%. It was 96%. The blanket cynicism for governement is just going to yield shittier government as outlined in this brilliant piece of work.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
I have not seen a single piece of data that shows the stimulus did not work. It should have been larger (over a trillion) and better structured (that $350 billion in tax breaks thrown in as a bone toward Republicans that didn’t vote for it anyway would have done wonders elsewhere), but yes, it prevented 12-15 percent unemployment and fueling hiring.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
The Soviet Empire was crushed under this very philosophy because a country that is more concerned about defending themselves from some boogeyman than it is in developing and maintaining its infrastructure will fail under the weight of its own paranoia.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Damn, you’re an adorable right-wing sound byte, aren’t ya?
It is true. Not only did the government receive less tax revenue, Americans enjoyed the lowest average tax rate in American history last year.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
^I will eat your shoe if 96% of the federal government’s budget is spent on “absolute essentials.” That’s absurd.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
Oh yes, the good ole “thins are horrible, but if we hadn’t done something, things would be even WORSE!!!!” argument.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Something else that’s not reported: Obama the big government advocate has cut 500,000 government jobs since 2008 even as the population grows. That’s a half a million people out of work largely because of Tea Bagger Congressional cuts.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Also fuck those fucking cunts who call medicare and pension ‘entitlement’ or too much ‘legacy cost’ and support the war on drugs. Get some logical consistency you hypocrites. There is no greater legacy cost ever than the rate of incarceration in the USA. At least pension money circulates the economy rather than paying for young men to sit idly and compete in some rape, cigarette, drug shadow market.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Well, you probably don’t consider Medicare and SS essentials, right? Or did I jump too far on the mat?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
It’s not an argument, it’s a fact.
Do you not believe that pumping nearly a trillion dollars into the economy had some positive measurable effect on job loss and creation?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
You are correct. But even if I did consider a government program that takes my money and gives it to someone else to be an essential, would you agree that ever dollar that currently goes to medicare and SS are spent in an essential manner?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
From the KPMG report:
“the vast majority, 96%, of services that report through the Public Works Committee are core municipal services, either mandatory as a result of provincial legislative requirements or essential to the continued operation of the City as an urban area.”
Here is the source itself
KPMG is one the largest companies in the world in the field of audit, tax, and advisory. But I am sure your worldview knows better.
/96% essential through provincial laws and essential urban spending
//Eat a fucking shoe
August 13th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
I completely do not believe that.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Politic monday?
/walks back out the door
//jennifer aniston – attractive but mediocre actress who has more bad acting credits than good
August 13th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Reading is fundamental.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Let me explain something, poor people don’t buy stuff. If poor people don’t buy stuff people can’t employ people to make stuff. More poor people creates more poor people. Austerity has always failed (always failed) because it furthers unemployment and creates more poverty by reducing the social safety net.
Republicans can always talk about limiting bureaucracy and avoiding nanny state like laws and I will listen. But conservative economics is an demonstrable failure and no one can be taken seriously who advocates them.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Don’t mind soused. He’s continuously drunk..and canadian
August 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
It’s truly frightening that liberals believe confiscating the income earnedy by the wealthy, productive class and “spreading it around” via unnecessary government projects is a key driver in “job creation”.
If spending other people’s money is the key to job creation, why not make the “stimuls” 10 trillion dollars?
Cannot wait to see Joe Biden vs Paul Ryan in a debate over fiscal matters. Serious question: does Biden even bother showing up?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
I don’t think every dollar that goes to a massive, countrywide program – public or private – is spent in an essential manner. And I’d put defense and their $1000 toilets as a shining example. Point is, you don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Wow. Well, you are an economist so I guess I lose this round.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
And here I thought no one had seen MikeNYC and Jimmy Chitwood in the same place at the same time.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
I suppose you’d rather listen to the more serious-minded economists of, say, Greece?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
I believe it stopped the bleeding and stabilized the wound.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
You incentivize the poor by keeping them poor and you incentivize the rich by making them richer is that about right?
Also ‘confiscating income’ is absurd when they would just paying the same rate as the rest of Americans.
Here’s Alan Greenspan admitting his worldview was wrong.
They go hand in hand.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
You’re half right. I’m not an economist.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
This is Soused’s idea of government utopia.
It’s easy to grovel for other people’s successes when you’ve acheived none of them on your own.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
This guy is incredible.
I think this was it’s primary accomplishment, yes.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
This was dumb of you. Greece defaulted because no one payed taxes.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
this is exemplified by the struggles the U.S. economy endured in the 50′s with those 70% tax rates. It’s no wonder the U.S. was unable to support building infrastructure such as the Interstate system.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
/reads comment section after TBL hyped it up on Twitter
//backs out slowly
August 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Here I was thinking it was uncontrolled government spending and a refusal to cut back on the “essentials” such as insanely high public wage increases.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
You’re going to see a lot more Mikes and Jimmys as the election draws near and then ends with yet another rejection of conservative ideals. You’re hearing the death rattle of right wing conservatism. The lie that tax cuts for the wealthy trickle down is exposed, and you’re seeing much greater reluctance to policies and parties that support making the rich richer.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
They did a bangup job of listening to Goldman Sachs….
And I suppose Koch or Exxon are going to be building/maintaining the interstate highway system. Or Delta and Boeing will support the national air control system. Wal-Mart and Monsanto will do a wonderful job inspecting our food plants?
August 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
That was the tax rate during America’s most prosperious years for the middle class.
For the umpteenth time there is relationship between taxes and GDP.
No one is begrudging you of any success we just want you to pay what we all do. Also the 1% do not create jobs the consumers do. Do well to remember that. The level of which taxes are fueled by the rich is evidence of a huge gap in wage equality. Not evidence of class warfare.
August 13th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Lol.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I hope you’re okay with that, because you don’t seem to deal too well with opposing views. For the record, I support tax cuts for all.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Damn baby boomers.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
btw, Paul Ryan can not possibly be old enough to be a VP candidate.
/Miami Grad, class of ’92 here
//So is Ryan
August 13th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
See your LOL, raise you a BLOLOLOLOLO with this:
Congressional Republicans enjoy a whopping 21 percent approval rating. Democrats aren’t much better at 33 percent, but America hates the Baggers.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Did you know him?
August 13th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I DIDN’T SAY I KNEW HIM!!! I SAID HE TOUCHED ME ON THE SHOULDER ONCE!!!
August 13th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Miami is bigger than most realize. It has about 15,000 students, everyone definitely doesn’t know one another.
But, I recognized him a few years ago when he started getting prominent Congressional gigs. I know of him, more than know him. I knew a few guys in his frat house reasonably well. But, that was an insulated house, who pretty much hung with one another.
I didn’t have any classes with him, unless we were in one of the freshman weed-out courses together…
My opinion: Romney went after the wrong guy with Ohio ties. Portman is more middle of road and likely would have helped Romney walk with the election.
/Takes my opinion and walks out
August 13th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
It’s not an opposing view it’s a stubborn dogma.
August 13th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Wally, the age requirement is 35. I’m sure he’s old enough
August 13th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
I think you missed the bit where Wally is dealing with his own mortality
August 13th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
/Clicks on morning Round-up
//Sees political discussions
///Closes browser and gets back to work
August 13th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I DIDN’T SAY I KNEW HIM!!! I SAID HE TOUCHED ME ON THE SHOULDER ONCE!!!
+1 wooden sword.