College Football: What Teams Are Likely To Be Overrated in 2012?
Preseason polls will come out soon and set up a largely baseless caste system for the 2012 college football season. Said polls will be dissected. Accusations of favoritism and bias will fly in every direction. I decided to look at data from the last five seasons to determine which teams, if any, were being overrated.
Methodology: I compared the initial AP poll to the final SRS rankings. The former is a consensus indicator of media opinion. The SRS rankings, accounting for strength of schedule and margin of victory provide a reasonable objective indicator of how teams did. I averaged the disparities over the five-year period.
I eliminated every team that did not receive an initial AP vote in any of the five years, under the premise that you can’t be the most overrated team if no one voted for you to start a season. This saved Wisconsin from claiming the top slot. Had I used the Coaches’ Poll for 2009, Wisconsin would have come out +10.6. Here are the top ten that came out.
Notre Dame [+10.4] This is the team one would expect to be the most overrated. However, it is an aberration that has them this high. In 2007, Notre Dame was ranked 39th in the AP poll and finished 82nd in SRS after a 3-9 season. However, over the past four seasons Notre Dame’s average AP poll ranking was 23.6 and their average SRS ranking was 25.4. An average disparity of just +1.8 leaves them fairly accurately rated.
Texas [+9.8] This was all 2010 when the Longhorns started 5th in the AP poll and finished 57th in SRS. Texas’ combined rating for the other four seasons was just [+0.6].
BYU [+8.6] Ty Detmer is not walking out from that tunnel. Voters drastically overrated BYU in 2008 (+23) and 2010 (+27) and slightly in 2011 and 2009.
Florida State [+8.4] No surprise here, though voters have become more realistic about the Seminoles. They have added just +3.5 on average to Florida State the past four years, as opposed to +17.75 from 2004 to 2007.
Georgia [+7.8] Voters overrated Georgia drastically from 2008 to 2010, placing them 14.7 places higher than they finished on average. Last year the Dawgs started 19th in the AP and finished 21st in SRS.
Ohio State [+6.8] This was all 2011 where, without Tressel and Pryor, Ohio State began 18th in the AP poll and finished 42nd in SRS. Counting just 2007 to 2010, the average margin was (+2).
Auburn [+6.6] Media members have no grasp on Auburn. The average margin of difference either positively or negatively between the initial AP poll and SRS the past four seasons is 28. The closest margin in that period was (-19) in 2010 when the initial AP poll had them 22nd and they finished 3rd in SRS. Auburn is here because of drastic overratings in 2008 (+51) and 2011 (+23).
Nebraska [+6.6] Voters overshot Nebraska by (+42) in 2007. Undershot them in 2008 (-26), were closer in 2009 (+5) and then off a bit in 2011 (+9) an 2012 (+15) as the Cornhuskers did not take their expected step forward.
Florida [+5.8] The Gators were underrated by an average margin of (-1) from 2007 to 2009. The media than overrated them significantly in the last year of Urban Meyer’s tenure (+22) and the first year of Will Muschamp’s. (+12)
Penn State [+5.4] This was one outlier season. In 2010 Penn State began the season ranked 19th in the AP poll and finished 7-6, 50th in SRS. The Nittany Lions were significantly underrated in 2008, when they finished 5th in SRS and slightly overrated in 2007, 2009 and 2011.
Teams that Were Underrated: Oklahoma State using the Coaches’ Poll for 2008 had an average margin of (-12.4). Oregon had a margin of (-9.4), last year when AP rated them 3rd and they finished 5th in SRS, was the only year they were overrated. Missouri (-6.8) has finished the season in the SRS top 20 four of the past five five seasons and begun the year rated in the AP Top 20 just once.
Teams that Were Accurately Rated: Despite the Craig James factor, AP voters have locked down on Boise State. They were slightly underrated (-1.6) over the last five years. The margin has been within three in either direction the past three seasons. AP voters have also been within two places on West Virginia the last three seasons and four of the last five. The one hiccup was in 2008 (+21) when the Mountaineers transitioned from Rich Rodriguez to Bill Stewart.
Unpredictable: Besides Auburn, Michigan has also given voters some trouble. They have received an initial AP vote in three of the past five seasons. The closest margin was 2007 in Lloyd Carr’s last year when Michigan started 5th and ended up 30th in SRS.
Conclusion: AP voters do not appear to be systematically overrating any team. Individual biases are largely cancelled out by the group. Those overrated on average had one fluke season or did not play to the level of their talent. Voters accurately smaller juggernauts such as Boise State. They realize Chip Kelly’s offense is not a gimmick. That said, non-traditional powers, such as Missouri and Oklahoma State, still face an uphill battle.
When voters err greatly, it is almost always diminishing the impact of transitions, particularly huge drop offs in quarterback experience. Just looking thorough this data set… Ohio State w/out Pryor in 2011 (+24), Florida w/out Tebow in 2010 (+22), Texas w/out McCoy in 2010 (+52), Penn State w/out Clark in 2010 (+31), LSU w/out Flynn in 2008 (+30), Michigan w/out Henne in 2008 (+52), Auburn w/out Cox in 2008 (+51). With that in mind, keep an eye on Baylor, Stanford, Oklahoma State and Boise State to not live up to their initial AP valuation in 2012.
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July 20th, 2012 at 4:10 PM
They’re still looking for someone to replace Clark.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
preseason champs 30 years straight!!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:13 PM
im confused as to why ohio state is even going to be ranked, and how usc was ranked last year. why bother if it don’t mean anything?
July 20th, 2012 at 4:15 PM
The SRS rankings, accounting for strength of schedule and margin of victory provide a reasonable objective indicator of how teams did.
Not really.
/Texas was still higher than KSU in the final rankings.
//Small sample size.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
im confused as to why ohio state is even going to be ranked, and how usc was ranked last year. why bother if it don’t mean anything?
Ratings. Easier to sell a game if it is between ranked opponents.
/Is OSU banned from TV?
July 20th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
naw and i see your point, talking bird…bckaw to you and yours.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:17 PM
it matters for the teams that play them. Arizona State and Stanford both beat a ranked Southern Cal team last year…sounds better than them beating an unranked Southern Cal team.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Boise State.
— Craig James
/ He’s just trying to get us to keep that thread alive
July 20th, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Hell, LSU is still looking for someone to replace Flynn.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
Touchdown Jesus is always overrated, especially in the field of video intern safety.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Rapelisberger Jr. is gonna fukc you in the ass next Saturday! We got a date next Saturday!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Actually, if the PSU season gets shut down, it will be our best season of QB play since then.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:23 PM
SRS is a stupid stat. For example, it had 2010 Auburn ranked behind 2010 Oregon, even though 2010 Auburn beat 2010 Oregon on a neutral field. And 2010 Stanford was ahead of 2010 Oregon, even though 2010 Oregon whipped 2010 Stanford by three touchdowns.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
the up-hill battle of being a little better than shitty every 8 or 9 years. tis a tough hill to climb, for sure.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
Were there other teams that made your list that weren’t published? As a Virginia Tech fan, I’ve always had a lingering feeling that we are constantly 3-5 spots overrated. Just curious what you found…
July 20th, 2012 at 4:27 PM
ark, I am sorry that you are going to have to endure a season with John L Smith.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
I feel like VT is usually overrated but they always have a good record and beat the teams they’re supposed to. On the other hand, have they won one memorable, high-stakes game under Beamer? Always seems like the stage gets too big for them.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Because if one would expect a team to be overrated in the preseason rankings, it’s the team that has started five of the last ten season unranked. GODDAMN MEDIA FAVORING NOTRE DAME!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:37 PM
Notre Dame has returned to overrated glory!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:37 PM
still ranked too high.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:38 PM
I hate SRS because it doesn’t agree with W-L records and my eyeball test WAAAAH
July 20th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
If they list more than 2 wins for the Terps they would be highly overrated.
/ damn Edsall
// hoping for a split between William & Mary and Temple to avoid a winless season
July 20th, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Most of those times they were middle or above in the “also receiving votes” category ….. so, yes, yes that is too high.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
mole – all a team needed to be considered in this list is at least one AP preseason vote each year.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Shame it wasn’t the coaches’ poll so Spurrier’s Duke vote could generate a result
July 20th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Michigan’s a 4 or 5 loss team. But yeah, they won’t be overrated…
July 20th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Is SRS even a “stat” per se? Isn’t SRS supposed to be predictive (and therefore, not 100% accurate) by it’s definition?
July 20th, 2012 at 4:47 PM
This.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:48 PM
There will never be a perfectly accurate computer formula in CFB. Too many teams, too few games, and especially too few meaningful inter-conference games.
July 20th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
/ OT
Headline of the day:
“Fred Willard arrested for improvisational one-man show in adult movie theater”
July 20th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
he keeps saying that he is going to let the coordinators do their job and stay out of most play calling decisions. I’m not sure how long that will last, but hey, at least he is an entertaining interview!!!
July 20th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
Uh Duffy if it is prediction then why are you using it as an endpoint? If it is not accurate then why are you using it? If you are starting with one variable why are you pairing it with a completely different variable?
July 20th, 2012 at 5:08 PM
the up-hill battle of being a little better than shitty every 8 or 9 years. tis a tough hill to climb, for sure.
Missouri has had numerous good seasons recently, one of which I think ended in the Cotton Bowl. Gonna check that and be right back.
/SEC Speed
July 20th, 2012 at 5:13 PM
SRS is a stupid stat. For example, it had 2010 Auburn ranked behind 2010 Oregon, even though 2010 Auburn beat 2010 Oregon on a neutral field. And 2010 Stanford was ahead of 2010 Oregon, even though 2010 Oregon whipped 2010 Stanford by three touchdowns.
Any ranking system with so few games and so many teams is going to be approximate. There is no ranking system that has yet to be invented or will be invented that will be immune from “Team X beat Team Y” comparison. I could list others where it was true way more frequently.
In your example, those teams are all rated with 1 point. Basically a toss up. Oregon and Auburn was a 3 point game. Yell at Vegas every time a 1 point favorite loses by a field goal.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:17 PM
That’s all fine, but if SRS or any computer system has such obvious flaws, why use it, especially win the effect you are measuring – impressions of writers before and after a season – can simply be measured by using a simple before and after comparison of AP votes? Wouldn’t that more properly show how writers are over- and underrating certain teams during the summer? That way you are not having to deal with the flaws inherent to BOTH the AP process and SRS.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:18 PM
yesterday maybe, naduckworth.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:49 PM
I agree with the Concrete Dildo.
July 20th, 2012 at 5:56 PM
Because your eye test is worse (and I’m using the collection “you” there since we’re all imperfect creatures)
July 20th, 2012 at 6:10 PM
bawcoach uses the ol’ ahhhhh test, son. aint neverbin rawng.
/click clack
July 20th, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Anyone’s eye test is going to be off, but the point of using a computer would be to approximate how “good” a team is by running X number of simulations. However, the basis of those simulations are a small sample size or 14 or 15 games. Thus, garbage in, garbage out. You can’t say that these game are razor thin – essentially coin flips – and then pretend that a computer can extrapolate from 14 or 15 coin flips involving a team what a 10,000 such coin flips would look like.
The result is patently absurd stuff like Stanford better than Oregon and Oregon better than Auburn even though our admittedly very limited data – but all the data we have! – would tell us otherwise.
July 21st, 2012 at 12:42 AM
Auburn w/out Cox in 2008 (+51)
Wow, I’d forgotten that guy. Some version of the EA Sports cfb game had me convinced he would be a good pro. I’m not the brightest guy a lot of the time
July 21st, 2012 at 4:31 PM
it is an aberration that has them this high
It just occurred to me that Notre Dame is even over-rated at being over-rated