Joe Posnanski Thinks that Joe Paterno is Being Made a Scapegoat. Did You Know Posnanski Was Writing a Book on Paterno?
Joe Posnanski, the acclaimed Sports Illustrated writer – we broke the story when he left the KC Star for SI in 2009 – is spending the season in Happy Valley, writing a book on Joe Paterno. I’m sure the publisher’s advance was hefty, as the book had the potential to be the definitive work on the legendary coach in what probably was going to be his last season with the Nittany Lions. That was before the Jerry Sandusky shit hit the fan.
Now the book is shot and Posnanski has been largely silent since Friday when the story broke. Apparently, he was blindsided by the news. (Did they make Posnanski wear blue and white glasses upon arriving in Happy Valley? I keed, I keed). Posnanski wrote this blog post about Paterno on November 6th. He’s offered nothing since.
This morning, though, about 24 hours after Joe Paterno announced he’d retire at season’s end and about 12 hours after Joe Paterno was fired by the Board of Trustees – was Posnanski one of those gasping in the room Wednesday night? More jokes! – Posnanski spoke to a journalism class on Penn State’s campus with Yahoo’s Pat Forde. One student (Devon, @Devon2012) was “live-tweeting” the experience and Posnanski’s alleged quotes* are quite jarring.
“We’re only hearing one side of the story, and it’s not an impartial story …
“I think [Paterno] is a scapegoat. I definitely think that…I think he tried to do the right thing, and the right thing didn’t happen.”
“A lot of people came here to bury Joe. As a writer, I’m mad with that, as someone who’s come to know the Paternos, I’m heartbroken”
Paterno tried to do the right thing? Huh?
Posnanski is a bright individual. Presumably, he read the detailed Grand Jury report. Presumably, he knows there was an 18-month investigation into this matter. The Grand Jury has been digging around the Penn State program for 18 months and we’re led to believe nobody – that’s including the defensive coordinator, Tom Bradley, who has taken over the team – knew of Sandusky’s sick behavior? Did everyone wipe 1998 from their memories? What about 2002? Somehow, the rumors trickled out to the media in recent years, but you’re telling me nobody inside the program was aware of them? What a crock of shit. Is that going to be their defense as to why Sandusky was allowed to roam the campus and the weight room and show up at Penn State football functions?
Posnanski has accomplished a lot in his career and he has a lot of friends in the media, so it is unlikely he’ll take too much heat for this. But he’s approaching a career-defining moment if he continues with this narrative.
* I use alleged because we have no confirmation from Posnanski that those are his exact words. I emailed Posnanski for confirmation – especially for the word scapegoat – and he hasn’t replied. I texted Pat Forde who was in the room, but he hasn’t replied.

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November 10th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
I really don’t understand your repeated tweets, comments, and now this post on JoePos. Why are you trying to bury him, and what do you hope to accomplish?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
That was not a journalism class. It was a mass communication and media class. There is a difference.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
“I’m mad this might effect the money I get from the amount of books sold!” fuck Joe Pos
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
I really don’t understand your repeated tweets, comments, and now this post on JoePos. Why are you trying to bury him, and what do you hope to accomplish?
This.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
He’s not?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Ohhh, look who has Pat Forde’s phone number!
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Here’s a link to Dan Patrick’s interview the professor of the class.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
doesnt matter
November 10th, 2011 at 1:21 PM
Love Joe, and I’m sure he’s just trying to say the right thing for now, but Holy Jeebus! He facilitated pedophilia at a minimum.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Maybe Joe can do Nixon’s bio next.
Nixon’s Watergate Grand Jury testimony released-
http://www.archives.gov/research/investigations/watergate/nixon-grand-jury/
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
“I’m mad this might effect the money I get from the amount of books sold!” fuck Joe Pos
Wouldn’t this only sell more of his books? Sorta like Pearlman’s book on Payton?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
So, Joe Pos is upset ’cause his book is ruined. Boo freakin’ hoo. Get over it and write a book about something else.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
Except from you and Barry Petchesky.
As are you.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
When you have nothing better to say, you just bury everyone else to make yourself look better
/nods at RexKramerDangerSeeker
November 10th, 2011 at 1:22 PM
No.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
JoePa not JoePos.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:23 PM
Why not?
It’s not part of the larger point of the post, but it’s an inaccurate statement.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:24 PM
Really sick and tired of being moderated every other comment.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
what? why? sounds like he’s got material for a whole new chapter or two. it’s salacious stuff too…more books would sell, no?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
Oh, I think that’s been done already. Has there even been a post about the MLB player who was kidnapped?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
JoePa not JoePos.
They had lunch at Pappa Joe’s
November 10th, 2011 at 1:25 PM
yes..late last night when it hit the news. posted by either CRM or Hernia
November 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
How so? If anything, it’s going to make the book a bigger hit.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Right. The best writers make this stuff work. And work well. Stephen King was hit by that van halfway through writing his memoir and finished it with eloquence while tying the experience into the narrative.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Paternonanski!
November 10th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
Nobody cares.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:27 PM
paterNo Homo
November 10th, 2011 at 1:28 PM
/Team if I tell a supervisor a guy is raping children and nothing is done I call the police my fucking self because if I don’t I deserve everything bad that comes my way
November 10th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
paterNObody will pay attention to the Chargers-Raiders game tonight due to PSU coverage
November 10th, 2011 at 1:29 PM
I’m on that team
November 10th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
It’s as if you’ve reached the end of your Jump to Conclusions mat and anyone else who hasn’t quite jumped that far is either on Peyote or risking their career.
I teld to agree with Posnanski.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:30 PM
err, ‘tend’
November 10th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
Joe Posnanski has been the best national sports writer for about the past three years IMO. I’ll let him lay his throughts on in full.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:31 PM
I am reminded of the good fortune Orson Welles had during “F for Fake” – the guy he was using to get access to his intended subject, a noted art forger, was none other than Clifford Irving – who it turns out forged Howard Hughes’ diaries.
Welles ran with it – the movie is trippy and didn’t work, but it was interesting nonetheless.
Pos is more worried that his warm and fuzzy Father Day’s pablum has been wrecked because we now have images of Sandusky bear hugging little boys in the shower.
Personally, I would have done anything for the opportunity Pos has as a writer – okay, perhaps not abet a pedophile.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
I am a big Posnanski fan. I know he’s an emotional guy about people he likes (see Buck O’Neil, Marvin Miller), so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here a little bit, but very disappointed in his poor judgment.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
NFL > Paterno
There’s a lot on TV tonight though. DVR is ready to rock and or roll.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
WTF.
“hey, we can’t get confirmation Posnanski or anyone else who might have heard what was said, so let’s rush to judgement and present a one sided story b/c what the hell else do we have to talk about today? I’ve already used up half assed conspiracy theories so i might as well roll into another field of irresponsible blogging by throwing shit into the fan and seeing what it hits.”
November 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
Whew. I was worried that you wouldn’t be covering the Joe Paterno firing.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:32 PM
Buys hat for this team
/uses 6 font
November 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Blanket of statements > jump to conclusions mat
November 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Oh look, now people have jumped to the conclusion that Paterno is a pedophile.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
It’s as if you’ve reached the end of your Jump to Conclusions mat
He upgraded to the Draw Your Conclusions mat.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
This, whether I agree with him or not. He’s got credibility in spades.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:33 PM
OT:
Wilson Ramos is still alive in Venezuela. Can you imagine if an American pro athlete was kidnapped in Baltimore or the Bay Area? The internets would run amok.
/end OT
November 10th, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Wait, so the crux of this post is that Posnanski is mad because a national scandal he is in prime position to cover is going to ruin his book, and therefore he’s defending Paterno?
This is…my god.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
That’s really nitpicking semantics, other than to say most are basically pointless. If you attain any type of advanced journalism degree you’re really just wasting your money. It’s been that way for two decades, but it’s even moreso now.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Workaholics was fantastic this week.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
Seriously, baseball players. Get out of Venezuela.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:36 PM
now on this we can agree
November 10th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
Pretty much. And pretty odd.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
i’m still not sure why anyone would travel beyond the US/Mexico border, let alone that far into south america.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
Personally, I like Posnanski’s work. Bought a copy of his book on the Big Red Machine and enjoyed it.
In this case, the book he wants to write will look pretty naive when compared to the events surrounding his subject.
He is in Happy Valley. He didn’t hear about the rumors? Didn’t suspect the rumors had any credence? Wow.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:37 PM
Fuck…I somehow fell asleep at 9pm last night. No idea why.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Can you imagine if an American pro athlete was kidnapped in Baltimore or the Bay Area? The internets would run amok.
Pittsburgh has kidnapped 25 MLB players for the past two decades with scant media coverage.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
TBL jumping the shark w/ this Paterno coverage/conjecture?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
TBL you’re just being over the top ridiculous with this stuff. It’s all scorched earth, all the time.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
I’d say this leans more towards gossip than musings.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
What?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
one of my favorite shows on TV right now.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
Can you see him? I want you to picture that baseball player. Now imagine he’s white.
/Jake Brigance’d
November 10th, 2011 at 1:39 PM
That pesky 0 just sits up above the o, begging to be pushed.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
It’s a small town and they all support the team.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
Scripty, well-played, sir.
/stays for the comments
November 10th, 2011 at 1:40 PM
True. But it’s not like Pos is a hack…he can easily adapt the book to the new circumstances.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
Paterno is being quoted as saying that McQueery told him something vaguely like they were “horsing around”.
I didn’t know that’s what that meant.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
Poz was suppoed to write a glowing fluff piece on JoePa, not an tabloidesque scandal book. They get Jeff Pearlman to write those.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:41 PM
posnanski is embarrassing himself here defending his friend. It ain’t about football, Joe. It’s about hundreds of kids molested and a cover up. Why do you think Sandusky retired in ’99??? I hope his book paints Paterno in a great light. Because his legacy in the real world is shit.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:42 PM
And hot. And female.
/Natalee Holloway’d
November 10th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
Didn’t Perlman write the book on the 90′s cowboys?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:43 PM
We still can’t use the S word?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
*pearlman
November 10th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
Vladimir, I get the part about Happy Valley being pretty much a college town (esp. kids growing up worshipping the institution). That happens in a few college towns (Austin, Norman, Lincoln, et al.).
But in this age of camera phones, TMZ and twitter gossip, there are a lot of folk who want to traffic in the dirty underbelly of life. And it appears there were whispers about the abuse for over a decade.
Now, Posnanski shows up and completely ignores it? Again, I say “wow”.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
what’s the s-word? shit? shitty shit shit shit. i shat it, see? shattily shitty shitter shit poop.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:44 PM
Pretty much. I think Joe Posnanski has earned that right.
Posnanski had a front row seat to the last days of Paterno’s time at Penn State. I don’t think you can write a book about Paterno unless you address Paterno’s utter and complete failings in this matter. I’m absolutely buying this book when it comes out.
He’s been there, maybe, 6 months.
There are people that live and grew up there and never suspected Sandusky. I’m not burying Posnanski on that.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Headline news can only help future book sales.
/says every author except the guy who wrote “Where’s the Birth Certificate?”
November 10th, 2011 at 1:45 PM
Again, I’m pretty sure Pos is capable of adapting…
November 10th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
In JoePa’s defense if someone with the name of McQueary who happens to be a ginger comes to me with anything, I’d have a difficult time taking them serious..”Alright, Mchassexwithmeny”..I’m really immature tho I mean his name might as well be Tits Mcgee
November 10th, 2011 at 1:46 PM
why would even want to say shit? poop’s so much more fun.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Yup. And on the 86 Mets.
I could see a Pearlman book on this thing too.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Completely agree. And I hope he does.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Step one, instead of ass say buns, like kiss my buns or you’re a bunshole. Step two, instead of shit say poo as in bull poo,
poo head and this poo is cold. Step three, with bitch drop the T cause “bich” is latin for generosity. Step four, don’t say fuck anymore,
cause fuck is the worst word that you can say. So Just use the word “mmmkay!”
November 10th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
This is the part of this story that’s really being underreported. The guy’s a ginger. What did people expect?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
No doubt in my mind. The question is – is this the book he wants to write?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:49 PM
Obviously a waste of money. But when you’re taking a 400 or 500-level comm class, it’s not necessarily for an advanced degree. I had several 400-level classes and two 500-level classes required for an undergrad degree.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
And the Walter Payton Painkillers & Mistresses book.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
I would kill to have Joe Posnanski teach one day of a journalism class I attended. While many love to bash the daily journalists and their “dying” profession, some of the best journalism schools have some really great former writers – often ones who either (A) couldn’t handle the hours/stress of working at a daily, or (B) didn’t grasp office politics that is a must a the big papers. The advice you get from some of these guys is such a boost for young journalists and writers.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Oh, yeah. Journalism 419, otherwise known as advanced feature writing. Otherwise known as turn in one of the 5,000-word features you wrote for the school newspaper and call it a semester. Good times.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Perhaps because he is from Venezuela? What the hell is he supposed to do, not go home? It is typically hard for people to completely leave all of their family and friends behind to live in a foreign land where most everybody doesn’t speak your language and also doesn’t have a winter league.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
Again, I’m pretty sure Pos is capable of adapting…
No doubt in my mind. The question is – is this the book he wants to write?
This is the question I wonder about also. Posnanski has proven his talent many times over.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
if they’re wearing a kilt and swinging a claymore, you best believe im taking them seriously.
/hold
//hold
///HOLD
////HOLD!!!!!
November 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
Seriously, baseball players. Get out of Venezuela.
I think he’s from Venezuela…..
November 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
Naw Pearlman only goes for the “You worshiped these guys and I just showed you how fucking pathetic they were by showing you their flaws. You’re stupid for worshiping these people! WORSHIP ME!” factor…he won’t have anything of value to add to this
November 10th, 2011 at 1:52 PM
never heard of this guy.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:53 PM
pretty much nailed the bastard right thurr.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Over/under on when the first idiotic “College Football Is a Threat to All Our Children and Must Be Banned” article appears somewhere in the US?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Ha! You did that, too? Awesome.
Some of the best advice I’ve got, and a quote that will forever stick with me, came from a former editor and writer who spent 18 years in the biz before becoming a professor. “The best writers are the best readers.”
November 10th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
Who is this Mike Napoli guy?
/TBL’d
November 10th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
I love how it’s just assumed that everyone knew everything 10 years ago – like it was printed in the local newspaper. What about Sandusky’s wife, do you think she knew about it? She had to have known, right? What about his 6 kids – surely they knew?
The failings of the key individuals aside (Curley, Schulz, etc.) you can’t keep assuming that everyone in the program knew everything that was going on. I’m a Senior Manager in my company and there’s all kind of shit going on (failed drug tests, affairs, etc.) that I had no idea about until it was announced.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:55 PM
I wouldn’t go that far. Maybe one or two per faculty, but even at the “best” journalism schools (take Columbia or Missouri, for example) most of the professors are men/women who never really spent that much time in a newsroom. Now creative writing faculty at some of the nation’s better schools, that’s where you get the really good people teaching you.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
we’re getting there…
November 10th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
No shit? Why else would he be in that hellhole? Something like every other person living there is kidnapped. You get a baseball contract, you have the means, why cant you move your family to a safer place?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
fixed.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:56 PM
This is best read as Jon Lovitz playing the role of Satan.
And your point has the added value of being true.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
Who is this Mike Napoli guy?
/TBL’d
Charl Schwartzel? Never heard of the guy. Couldn’t identify him if he delivered a pizza to my house tonight.
/TBL
November 10th, 2011 at 1:57 PM
because the handler from venezuala is getting 25% of their minor league contract?
November 10th, 2011 at 1:58 PM
Not to mention that the more people know what’s going on, the harder it becomes to keep the lid on a cover-up. This is college athletics, where people come and go and get fired all the time. If it was such common knowledge, surely someone with an axe to grind would have brought it to light.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
How I feel.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
It’s about time someone in the media came out with a different outlook.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Well said.
November 10th, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Ah yes, another post that I feel pretty confident none of the other TBL writers would feel comfortable writing themselves. Because they seem to have integrity.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:00 PM
You guys do realize a lot of players go down to Venezuala to play winter ball and often to get some extra development time, often at the behest of their major league clubs.
Some also use it as a springboard to bounce back to the majors or correct flaws and a lot of MLB scouts are down there right now.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
Contrarian to the very end.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:01 PM
numbersignbragginghumbly!?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
Its just me over here, I think.
Its just getting out of control in that country. Theres got to be another place they can play winter ball and move their family.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
Ah yes, another post that I feel pretty confident none of the other TBL writers would feel comfortable writing themselves. Because they seem to have integrity.
This sounds about right.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
Say it ain’t so, Joe…Posnanski. He’s one of my favorite wriers. Don’t be a moron here. Also, won’t you sell more books now?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:02 PM
No shit? Why else would he be in that hellhole? Something like every other person living there is kidnapped. You get a baseball contract, you have the means, why cant you move your family to a safer place?
Move your entire family to a foreign land with a language they don’t speak? Seems like that’s a lot to ask of them. Venezuela isn’t exactly a 3rd world country either. Crazy guy in charge, sure. Hottest girl I ever hooked up with at school was from Venezuela and she loved it there and went back all the time.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Paterno is being quoted as saying that McQueery told him something vaguely like they were “horsing around”.
That’s counter to Paterno’s own testimony.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/Presentment.pdf page 7
/Comes for the comments stays for going around in circles with idiots
November 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
No shit? Why else would he be in that hellhole? Something like every other person living there is kidnapped. You get a baseball contract, you have the means, why cant you move your family to a safer place?
Because it’s his home? He may not think it’s a shitty hellhole, what with it being his home country and all.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
/requests a post feature the Kate Upton catwalk .gif
November 10th, 2011 at 2:03 PM
Big Hoss, I hear ya. But, even as people come and go, Sandusky was around. He didn’t “come and go”.
And, people gossip. I’ve worked in units with hundreds to thousands of people since ’86. If we saw an old dude walking around with a little kid (sometimes at odd hours), and both their heads of hair were wet, we would wonder. Somebody would gossip.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Pretty sure they speak Spanish in more places than Venezuela.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
There have been tons of people to play in the Venezuelan Winter League…even -gasp- white people! Can you imagine that?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:04 PM
Alright, you know what? Let’s shut this party down. Tear gas? Tear gas.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:05 PM
poor motherfuckers do that erryday here… we call them mehicans…surely a venezulan with a decent paycheck can do the same.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
You guys do realize a lot of players go down to Venezuala to play winter ball and often to get some extra time to LOAD UP ON HGH, often at the behest of their major league clubs.
/fixed
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
just move to argentina. It’s germany with spanish speaking people
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Mexico and Columbia are just as bad. Argentina, Peru, Ecuador aren’t the best places either. Maybe Chile?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
I was referring as to why he keeps his family in Venezuela. Yes, they speak Spanish there. That’s why he didn’t just up and move his family to the US. Other reasons include the fact that he is probably here on a work visa and can’t move his family here.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
/Comes for the comments stays for going around in circles with idiots
It was on ESPN. Take it up with them.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:06 PM
I’d like to play winter league ball in Brazil
/replays shows on Brazilian beaches
November 10th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Pretty sure they speak Spanish in more places than Venezuela.
So? How would you feel about Giving up the nice life and friends you have in the country you love and moving to Australia? Venezuela isn’t the hell hole I think you think it is.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
/Comes for the comments stays for going around in circles with idiots
then you must love Darrell
November 10th, 2011 at 2:07 PM
Not really a contrarian. I just think this mob mentality is making a few of you look bad. I’ll just repost what I wrote this morning.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
Don’t have to go to Venezuela to get that shit.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
Odds of a world cup player getting kidnapped in the Brasil tourney?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:08 PM
poor motherfuckers do that erryday here… we call them mehicans…surely a venezulan with a decent paycheck can do the same.
Maybe he doesn’t want to, is I think the point.
By the way, you better enjoy the Cubs avatar here while you can. It comes off on 12/7.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:09 PM
I was a bit confused by Posnanski’s comment regarding Miami. If this had happened at The U, the media would’ve burned the entire campus to the ground 3 days ago.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:10 PM
Florida.
/no raycess
November 10th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Even money…Brazil better bring in the SAS & SEALs to run security for them in the 2014 for the WC and 2016 for the Olympics.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
Other reasons include the fact that he is probably here on a work visa and can’t move his family here.
This is a bigger deal now, especially after 9/11. In some sports like hockey, teams can’t even bring guys in for tryouts and training camps b/c immigration won’t give temprorary visas for training camp tryouts. I knew of some teams flying guys into certain border checkpoints etc b/c of better contacts with immigration, etc.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:11 PM
I bet he wants to now. also, that is a way better avatar than any astros one
November 10th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
chances of a soccer player getting an STD from a brazilian tranny hooker? 200%
November 10th, 2011 at 2:12 PM
Righttt… From the grand jury report. What Paterno told them he told Curley. “the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”
You could have read that yourself.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
He’s been there, maybe, 6 months.
There are people that live and grew up there and never suspected Sandusky. I’m not burying Posnanski on that.
about the time madden’s column on all this came out?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Word. Or USC…and then Whitlock would be everywhere…possibly doing tha damn thang
November 10th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
why do you always ask the dumbest questions?
read the post. no “burying” attempt.
Not hoping to accomplish anything.
Just point outing out the facts
November 10th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Mexico and Columbia are just as bad. Argentina, Peru, Ecuador aren’t the best places either. Maybe Chile?
Ha ha! Look at this country! ? U R Gay!?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:13 PM
Ha!
November 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
did theo fluery’s tweet last night get mentioned?
hard to keep up with this and have a life too
November 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
So Paterno and everyone else who was told by a witness about the abuse (that we know of) is now fired.
Still gonna hang on to that “witch hunt” opinion?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
I bet he wants to now. also, that is a way better avatar than any astros one
Certainly I agree that he’ll rethink his off season living arrangements after this.
Well as I said, enjoy the Cubs avatar while you can. It gets replaced with something, maybe Astros, maybe not, on December 7.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:14 PM
chances of a soccer player getting an STD from a brazilian tranny hooker? 200%
Dang, my eyes are burning now. Please make the images go away!
November 10th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
I’m saying that if this Sandusky thing was such common knowledge, for all the coaches and players who have passed through Penn State in the last 10+ years – including some who presumably left on bad terms – surely someone would have brought this to light.
And it has to be said that just because there is gossip or rumors or whatever, that isn’t the same as a concrete case. I’m not defending McQueary’s apparent inaction, but he could have made all kinds of noise about what he saw and even sacrificed his career in the name of protecting other kids from Sandusky, but he can’t investigate the crime or bring charges.
It’s entirely possible that for all the weirdness and rumors, there actually wasn’t enough to legally prosecute with until three or four years ago.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Saw someone on twitter talk about it. Theo Fleury is the man for being so open with what happened to him early in his life. Much love for people coming to grips with life trauma
November 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
I read this like a badly written Haiku
November 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
Perhaps because he is from Venezuela? What the hell is he supposed to do, not go home? It is typically hard for people to completely leave all of their family and friends behind to live in a foreign land where most everybody doesn’t speak your language and also doesn’t have a winter league.
you know i got something to say about this
November 10th, 2011 at 2:16 PM
TBL, you still running with this post from someone’s Twitter feed and despite not getting verificationfrom even Forde, let alone Posnanski, reminds me of Michael Scott saying about Wikipedia “they let everyone in the world write anything they want about anything, so you know you’re always getting the absolute best information.”
November 10th, 2011 at 2:17 PM
earthquakes bro. EARTHQUAKES.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
TBL = TMZ’s brother from another mother.
/Cain’d
November 10th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
it’s been a while…
November 10th, 2011 at 2:19 PM
you know that’s what you wanted to say.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:21 PM
This is college athletics, where people come and go and get fired all the time.
one of the things michael haynes said i thought was interesting was that coaches at psu usually stayed for life, but around 2000 some started leaving for other programs
November 10th, 2011 at 2:22 PM
If bloggers had their own country, named Blogopia, this would be the slogan on their flag that features a desktop computer
November 10th, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Ah yes, another post that I feel pretty confident none of the other TBL writers would feel comfortable writing themselves. Because they seem to have integrity.
yet here we are, 150-some comments later
November 10th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Paterno gone, witness coaches this Saturday? Have you read all of the outrage over that guy still being on the staff? Me neither. Yeah, I’ll hang on to it.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:23 PM
Everyone is in lynch mob mode. Paterno is wrongfully taking the brunt of the criticism because he’s the face of Penn State. Suddenly everyone thinks they know the exact inner workings of the Penn State football and assumes everyone there saw what was happened and looked the other way.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:24 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/search/McQueary …just a small sample…
November 10th, 2011 at 2:25 PM
ESPN has officially done the worst job of reporting; they have brought on Craid James for an interview.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
Really? I see it all over the place.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
His inaction is heinous. He should be gone too. However, this doesn’t absolve Paterno from his duty.
/I would support a ginger bashing post, including mainstream media as well.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
I was referring as to why he keeps his family in Venezuela. Yes, they speak Spanish there. That’s why he didn’t just up and move his family to the US. Other reasons include the fact that he is probably here on a work visa and can’t move his family here.
crazy guess here: low cost of living (and loving)
November 10th, 2011 at 2:26 PM
Oh Jesus. A new low.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:27 PM
Big Hoss, I dig your points. I really do understand what you are saying, and overall I agree.
But, I guess you and I have been in situations where we noticed “smoke”, found that we “didn’t want to get involved”, saw there really was something there, and we felt relieved when someone else took action.
I worked at a military academy for a while before a sexual assualt scandal broke. I didn’t see the details firsthand, but one would overhear snippets of something. Somebody would joke around about something unseemly.
I too didn’t have proof at the time, so I couldn’t take action. Months later, someone else did take action. Senior leaders, who weren’t eyewitnesses to the crimes, did pay with reassignments, “retirements” and the stigma of not taking action when action was required.
I believe in due process. I fully support gathering facts before forwarding charges. But, I think we’d agree if something like that had gone on in your workplace or mine for that many years, someone might have been compelled to say something, file a complaint, etc.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
just listened to podcast of Dan Patrick reading the timeline of alleged Sandusky events. I might just throw up my lunch
November 10th, 2011 at 2:29 PM
They, including Paterno, didn’t do enough. They have rightfully been terminated.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:30 PM
Whether or not you’re right about it being “wrong”, that’s life. When you are the most powerful person in an institution and the face of the institution, that’s the cross you bear. No one turns it down.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:32 PM
Really? B/c these words all appear in your article:
Apparently, alleged, Presumably, Presumably,
This was also funny:
considering much of his lengthy blog post was used to explain his subsequent silence
November 10th, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Happy, me, also… this seems to be one of the more polarizing issues we’ve had here (obviously). It just annoys me I can’t get clear answers to important questions, and that most people seem to not care what the answers are.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Even money…Brazil better bring in the SAS & SEALs to run security for them in the 2014 for the WC and 2016 for the Olympics.
i know the WC is bigger but rio has hosted the Pan Am Games and the World Military Games in the past couple years with no incidents
November 10th, 2011 at 2:35 PM
Can someone wrote a fucking article that answers questions, and doesn’t just ask them open-endedly. I’d really like a synopsis of facts… including testimony by the GA who we are all believing even though he saw a kid being raped and didn’t do shit about it.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
No one who lets kids get raped and doesn’t stop it is a ‘credible witness’.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:37 PM
What are you questions that can not be answered by readily available court documents?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:38 PM
seals and delta have done olympic security since 1984.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
including testimony by the GA who we are all believing even though he saw a kid being raped and didn’t do shit about it.
Read the report. Paterno’s is page 7, 2nd paragraph. Kid. Old Man.Shower. Sexual in nature. GA very, very disturbed. GA’s comes before Paterno’s if I remember correctly. What else do you want?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Wow, Temple dodged a bullet way back when…offered Sandusky the HC job in 1988.
http://tinyurl.com/7owfnrx
November 10th, 2011 at 2:39 PM
It’s entirely possible that for all the weirdness and rumors, there actually wasn’t enough to legally prosecute with until three or four years ago.
it’s very possible that the coverup extends to the police and investigators
November 10th, 2011 at 2:40 PM
What kind of person will be paying money to see Jack and Jill?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
The grand jury report does not have full testimony. It’s a general synopsis. I don’t think the actual full testimony has been made public.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:41 PM
I’d rather watch nothing than watch that movie
November 10th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
Most are available if you don’t mind wading through shit to get them…
What exactly was Paterno told, in words? Not what did the GA know, and then through Paterno told someone else, then eventually told the AD in a meeting without Paterno there.
What did Paterno do to cover it up, did Paterno know about the details in 1998 and that Sandusky wasn’t allowed to be on campus with kids? Who made that rule? Who knew about it and was supposed to enforce it?
How the fuck is Paterno more guilty than McQueary who actually saw it (and knew the full extent of what he saw)?
I’m not going to defend Paterno, but if he was told there was some inappropriate contact and he didn’t see it, it’s tough to ruins someone’s life and call the cops, unless you know it’s not a kid overreacting. You think he used the words “anal” and “penetration” to Paterno directly?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
What kind of person will be paying money to see Jack and Jill?
Yeesh, not me. Saw the trailer. Dang, it looks painfully unfunny.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:42 PM
TBL, this reminds of that time when Vanilla Ice gave that great advice to Jay-Z; What would you suggest for Cormac or DeLillo?
/knowyourplace’d
November 10th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
@Some Random Old Dude
Agree totally. I guess my point is, other than the principals here (Paterno, Curley, McQueary, etc.), we don’t know what people elsewhere in the program knew, if anything, and whether or how they acted on it. It’s pretty irresponsible of us to assume otherwise.
Maybe someone did try to speak up but Curley or Spanier or the police or whomever shut it down. Or maybe the police tried to investigate and didn’t get anywhere with it for whatever reason.
I don’t know enough about the investigation to draw conclusions…but here’s the thing: neither does anyone else. But that hasn’t stopped people from speculating irresponsibly.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:43 PM
Didn’t we cover this with the TBL/Rex issue a couple of days ago? Do we really need to go through this again?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:44 PM
The grand jury report does not have full testimony. It’s a general synopsis.
Read it again.
Start with the bottom of page 6. Looks pretty detailed to me.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
the wife wants to see Immortals. a mixed blessing. we’ll see it tomorrow morning. i’ll have a review if anyone remembers this and asks nicely
November 10th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
I don’t see your point.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:45 PM
It’s all under the section entitled: “Findings of FACT.”
With a footnote stating that the Grand Jury found the testimony of the GA to be very, very credible.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Most are available if you don’t mind wading through shit to get them…
See my link. It’s not that hard to find. I read it in about 20 minutes. Then I threw up.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Why not?
/page views
//wanking
November 10th, 2011 at 2:46 PM
It’s entirely possible that for all the weirdness and rumors, there actually wasn’t enough to legally prosecute with until three or four years ago.
it’s very possible that the coverup extends to the police and investigators
Didn’t we cover this with the TBL/Rex issue a couple of days ago? Do we really need to go through this again?
? that didn’t cross my mind. what is the connection?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:47 PM
Your words are falling on deaf ears. “Everyone” thinks Paterno knew something and hid it. “Everyone” thinks he didn’t do enough when the assistant reported what he saw. Now he’s fired and people still want to blame him for a child rapist running around campus for 10 years even though there are far worse offenders in this situation. C’est la vie.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
I’ve read it three times. There are a few quotes but it’s not the full testimony. Again, it’s a synopsis of their findings.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Big Hoss, your point is sound. Until the trial starts, and facts come out under oath, we all are just speculating spectators. Maybe even nattering nabobs on some level.
/Spiro Agnew’d
November 10th, 2011 at 2:49 PM
Your words are falling on deaf ears. “Everyone” thinks Paterno knew something and hid it.
READ THE GRAND JURY REPORT. JESUS. And we’re not up in arms because he “hid it.” He didn’t hide or “cover up” anything. HOWEVER, he was morally obligated to do more once those “higher up” didn’t do anything. The fact that he allowed this guy to hang around the program is revolting, given what he TESTIFIED TO KNOWING.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
So you only want to hold the “most guilty” parties responsible?
So the driver of getaway cars are no longer culpable? “The guy that actually robbed the store was more guilty!!”
November 10th, 2011 at 2:50 PM
But that hasn’t stopped people from speculating irresponsibly.
well fuck. what the hell are we all doing here then? cuz i’m not on the PSU campus investigating. are you? if you don’t have any facts, don’t comment, right?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Scroll back a few days to the post where TBL draws the parallel you did regarding failure to prosecute in 2005. In essence, TBL wildly speculates regarding the lack of prosecution, despite the fact that Rex Kramer Danger Seeker is a blood relative (nephew) of the DA at the time and attempted to set TBL straight with (gasp) actual facts.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:52 PM
just listened to podcast of Dan Patrick reading the timeline of alleged Sandusky events. I might just throw up my lunch
Trader: Was that podcast from today?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Tell you what, Vezina, I am ready for a road trip. Who’s with me to ride up to Happy Valley and seek out facts?
One caveat – you gotta listen to lots of TOTO and Steve Lukather on the way.
Any takers?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
This is in dispute by the Paternos.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:53 PM
No, dummy. I’m saying being angrier at the driver of the getaway car than at the guys who went into the bank and shot people is stupid.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:54 PM
This is in dispute by the Paternos.
as you would expect. Because that’s pretty damning, if it’s true.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
There’s a disconnect I don’t get here. And I’m certainly not going to attempt a rational discussion with ATL_Badger, so I’m going to drop it. It seems that Paterno knew a lot, but I’d like to hear him under oath say what he knew.
My only peripheral point was that if he didn’t divulge enough details, he may say now that he did, to shift blame away from him. I have no reason to think/know what he said, and it seems he told everything he saw, but since he didn’t act and is clearly a horrible human being, why should I trust him now.
I do think they all (Paterno included) should lose their jobs, but really only Paterno knows right now what he saw/thought. If it’s information you can’t comprehend, it’s pretty easy to twist/rationalize in your head. Every one of you imagine it was your brother, and think how much you could twist the facts subconsciously, or twist what you hear, to avoid confronting the truth or ruining his life.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Deeser..yes. Dan Patrick has been hitting grand slams on the air all week regarding this topic. The best.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:56 PM
despite the fact that Rex Kramer Danger Seeker is a blood relative (nephew) of the DAsoon to disappear (again)
November 10th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
One caveat – you gotta listen to lots of TOTO and Steve Lukather on the way.
Any takers?
can we bring Rosanna?
/love that song
//only toto song i love
roeth, i read most of that controversy about Rex and so on, and it sucks that he was outed and treated badly, but i was only thinking of police coverup not prosecution. it just seems to me that so many people in that town had so much invested in that university being well thought of and successful, that there was much to lose for everyone aand lots of reason to circle wagons
November 10th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
People run with the morally obligated argument in this because they are unable to substantiate their witch hunt otherwise. His emeritus status allowed him on the campus and gave him access to those facilities.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Oh…well now that I understand what you are saying…
I agree…
I think that the other guys fired are rightfully looking at prison time (which I don’t think Paterno deserves, based on what we know). I think people were incensed that JoePa gave the “don’t waste anytime on me” press release while trying to absolve himself of any wrong doing. The “everyone” you speak of felt he should be terminated immediately, and he was.
/now I just want to make sure Sandusky stays alive long enough to get abused in prison
November 10th, 2011 at 2:57 PM
Yep. I guess why would Paterno admit it now, but I’d really love to hear him talk, say what he knew, and why he reacted how he did. Even if it’s morally wrong (clearly it is), it’s not an inconcievable reaction by him, depending what “exactly” he was told.
/then we can crucify him
November 10th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
Trader, concur on Dan Patrick’s coverage of this crime. He has been first rate.
Wonder if the “mothership” wishes they had him on this story versus some of the lightweights they employ now…?
November 10th, 2011 at 2:58 PM
but I’d like to hear him under oath say what he knew.
Uhhh…. aren’t you under oath when you’re testifying in front of the grand jury? Isn’t that precisely why the AD and the other guy have been charged with perjury? I’m just asking. Because if the answer is yes, then Paterno, under oath, testified that a very very upset GA came to his home and told him he saw something sexual in nature in the shower going on between and old man and a child. Nice to see the barb you through in there at me though, per the usual.
November 10th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Again, Joe Paterno is the FOOTBALL COACH. He doesn’t hand out the fucking keys to the locker room. He doesn’t have any legal ability to permanently throw someone off campus. That was the job of the President of the University and the Athletic Director. You have absolutely no idea how many hours a day Joe spent on campus or how many times he saw Sandusky on campus after he retired from football!
November 10th, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Also: the situation reminds me of the legal policy of “don’t sue the most responsible party, sue the richest” (or the most famous here.
And I’m sure that Paterno/PSU/Commonwealth will be featured defendents in many civil cases upcoming.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:00 PM
His emeritus status allowed him on the campus and gave him access to those facilities.
And why was he allowed to have emeritus status when the President of the university signed off on a report banning him from bringing kids to the university? If you can’t trust him enough to bring kids to the football facilities, why would you allow him on campus otherwise?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Not many details are needed to ensure an investigation. “Kid” and “shower” should have been enough to make sure the police are involved.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
One caveat – you gotta listen to lots of TOTO and Steve Lukather on the way.
Any takers?
can we bring Rosanna?
/love that song
//only toto song i love
Vezina, you betcha. As long as we bring Pamela as well…
I only have a ’05 TrailBlazer, so we better pack light.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:01 PM
Great post, TBL.
/A Clockwork Orange’d
November 10th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Not many details are needed to ensure an investigation. “Kid” and “shower” should have been enough to make sure the police are involved
ding ding ding. Especially when you throw in “sexual in nature”
November 10th, 2011 at 3:02 PM
I’ve now seen two reporters mention that there’s a “Watch Children” sign on Sandusky’s street. A street sign, right next to a street. How ironic!
/gags
November 10th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
Way to scoop TBL’s next post.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:06 PM
Then the President should have taken away the status, if he can. (I don’t know)
November 10th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
I will say this: As much as I will be making fun of all JoePa all the time on this site, if there was a string of non-PSU posts, every comment thread would find it’s way back there somehow, anyway. At least now we don’t have to pretend to be interested in the actual post for 5 comments before saying whatever we want anyway.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:08 PM
remeber when gee joked about treessel firing him? tressel=paterno. dude could have done whatever he wanted and aksed if he did the right thing later
November 10th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
How good a bet does Nebraska -4/-110 look right now????
November 10th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
except that in 1998 an investigation involving kid and shower yielded no criminal accusation
November 10th, 2011 at 3:09 PM
But it’s Joe Paterno’s fault the President didn’t follow through! He runs everything on campus!
November 10th, 2011 at 3:10 PM
You think that about the old dude driving around in the beater car? I never got that impression he was power-mad (though since I have never been to PSU, what do I know)
November 10th, 2011 at 3:11 PM
I don’t think you can say that because the testimony was under oath that it instantly becomes the end of it. Testimony changes when you have a prosecutor and defense both asking questions. That doesn’t happen in a Grand Jury proceeding where it is just the prosecutor guiding questions. The prosecutor in the Grand Jury is working towards an indictment and is going to lay out questions in a manner that will get that indictment. The saying commonly associated with the Grand Jury is that a prosecutor can get a Grand Jury to indict a ham sandwich.
To me as an attorney, I don’t take the GJ findings of facts as the end of the story regarding the issue of McQueary’s credibility without at the very least seeing a transcript of what he said. Because it does matter what the intentions are of the prosecutor in the Grand Jury. If it came out purely as investigation, that is one thing completely separate than a prosecutor leading McQueary’s testimony to where he wants it to go. Ultimately, I think the thing to keep in mind is that there is no defense attorney in the Grand Jury proceeding. It’s a lot easier to get people to believe your side of the story when you’re the only one telling it.
I’m trying not to say one way or the other on what I believe about the Grand Jury findings, just wanted to post a bit on the Grand Jury proceeding itself because I see it mangled quite a bit the last few days.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:13 PM
Get your reason and logic out of here!
November 10th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Well this turned into a dumpster fire while I was at lunch.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:14 PM
(A) Who knew about it, first or second hand, and didn’t immediately either go to the locker room and stop the abuse, or at least call the cops? All of those people should be fired.
(B) After the grand jury proceedings, who could have strongly voiced a negative opinion about Sandusky being on campus, get him removed, and didn’t do it? All of those people should be fired.
Paterno, among others (obviously), fits both (A) and (B). He should be fired. End of story.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:16 PM
You see how small his house is relative to the bank he’s pulled all of these years?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:17 PM
wwos, power-mad implies using power for gain, ego trip. for our purposes here, it means that if he wanted a guy who was suspected (and more) of abusing kids in the locker room, he could have in a heartbeat gotten him removed from campus, with details to be worked out later. yes, i think that and it’s not crazy, even taking procedures and policies into account
University admin: but Joe pa, why do yoou want him gone?
joepa: because i fucking said so
UA: we need more than that joepa(wincing, flinching)
joepa: i have knowledge he was buggering boys on campus
UA: we’ll get right on it, and…i’ll call the police!
November 10th, 2011 at 3:18 PM
thanks joboo
November 10th, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Are we supposed to believe that Paterno knew nothing of this investigation in ’98? Even without knowing the full details of what happened in ’02, he knows it was something sexual in nature. This should have been a red flag. Yes, he told his boss, and he wasn’t obligated to call the police, but he didn’t even ask Sandusky about it? Turning a blind eye to a situation involving a man who has past of questionable activity with young boys in showers. Failure
November 10th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
who said this: all it takes for evil to happen is good men doing nothing
November 10th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
SG, Paterno is fired because he was in a position of responsibility. Just like the others who have been fired. He should have gone to police but chose not to. As Bilas said “a conspiracy of cowards”.
The BOT have made some determination about the ginger that I don’t agree with. But he wasn’t in a position of power at the university, so there is at least a line to be drawn there. You expect more out of the people you put in powerful places.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:21 PM
Also, if you read the report, for some reason they never state what the graduate student told Paterno.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
Just because Posnanski is a popular writer, and deservedly so, doesn’t mean he can’t fuck up and be called out for it.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:22 PM
I’ll believe first-hand accounts. No offense chewy, but your internet observations and guesses don’t really count for much with me.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
i dont like the play the “if …” game …
but if Posnanski were an ESPN writer, he’d be getting destroyed. Pounded mercilessly.
Posnanski is well-liked. Great writer. I’m looking forward to his piece in the magazine this week.
I know it’s not an idea situation to be thrust into, but at what point does SI say, ‘uh, we need something out of you.’
November 10th, 2011 at 3:23 PM
dannyvalencia19 Danny Valencia
#pray for Wilson Ramos, unreal what’s going on in VZ. It’s crazy to think teams are still willing to send players down there for winter ball
November 10th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Position of power means moving it up the chain, Paterno did. McQueary’s phone has a ’9′ and a ’1′ just like Paterno’s
November 10th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
Correct, but probably not by JDiddy3000. Bible Quote Time!
“first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”
November 10th, 2011 at 3:24 PM
dannyvalencia19 Danny Valencia
#pray for Wilson Ramos, unreal what’s going on in VZ. It’s crazy to think teams are still willing to send players down there for winter ball
Thanks, TBL!
November 10th, 2011 at 3:25 PM
don’t know who you are … but well said.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
nods
November 10th, 2011 at 3:26 PM
I went to a decidedly non-”best” journalism school that was staffed almost entirely by working journalists. But then, size of the college matters a lot, as does physical location: helped to have two major daily newspapers in town (looks wistfully to mountains).
But Creative Writing? Pffft. Buncha failed poets who get too depressed to come to class half the time.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
would anyone buy a book that paints him in a good light after this? after what we now know about the last 13 years?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
exactly. how long has Paterno preached the whole “Success with Honor”? does his his lack of action (see:doing the absolute minimum in this case) pretty much completely fly in the face of everything that he has supposedly stood for and spoken about?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Anyone ever notice that dissenting opinions are never well-said?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:27 PM
I’ll believe first-hand accounts
Also saying that Paterno is complicit does not absolve anyone else of their moral failings in not calling the police.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:28 PM
+1
November 10th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
freaking liar. you love the “if…” game.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:29 PM
nobody is burying Posnanski. but when you’re writing a book, you talk to people around the subject, too. Joe was there daily and probably talked to people in every lunch/dinner/drinking hole in town. Not once person mentioned the Grand Jury investigation to him? His researched turned up… nothing? Not the April story in the Beaver County Times?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
How could expect a clown to write well, what with the bug funny gloves and seltzer bottles in their hands?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:30 PM
Agreed. But beside the point. I think people think this is goofy because TBL clearly knew he should get some confirmation of this kids tweets but couldn’t. Didn’t stop him from going with it and talking about how it’s a potentially “career-defining” moment for Pos. C’mon.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:32 PM
You just made my flower squirt all over the keyboard.
/*crosses fingers*
//please don’t take that out of context
November 10th, 2011 at 3:33 PM
fair point. i can accept that criticism. If that kid somehow lied about it all – he writes for a publication, Onward State, so that is unlikely – then yes, i’ll put up a post apologizing completely for this.
Also, that Michael Scott thing is great.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
I just think these paragraphs from Pos are fine, and reason enough to have at least let the guy publish something else or at least confirm the quotes before you ran with anything.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
hen yes, i’ll put up a post apologizing completely for this.
Still no apology to Rex though? Interesting.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:35 PM
true. the following has happened since his blog post:
AD out
President out
more Sandusky witnesses come forward
Paterno resigned
Paterno fired
November 10th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
This is a joke, right?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:36 PM
Got it.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:37 PM
And this changes his original post in what way, exactly?
November 10th, 2011 at 3:38 PM
i definitely enjoyed the healthy debate in this comments section. one of the better ones we’ve had on this topic. (the one in Duffy’s Monday post was terrific.)
November 10th, 2011 at 3:40 PM
If we’re speaking in moral obligations, positioning really doesn’t matter. He did what Paterno did, moved it up the chain to have it investigated. It’s not Paterno’s job or “moral obligation” to perform the investigation. Paterno is the coach, not the AD who is in charge of all athletic facilities nor is he the VP who is in charge of the Campus Police.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:42 PM
Agree that the ginger should be fired along with all the rest of the gang and that there’s no witch hunt.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:47 PM
If we’re speaking in moral obligations, positioning really doesn’t matter.
How do you feel about Jim Calhoun and Jay Witherwrite?
It is everyone’s obligation to call police when a child is being raped both professionally and morally.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:55 PM
I want to emphasize a point again… I understand the need for firing Paterno. I’m not questioning this act. My issue is with the mob mentality over Paterno’s role in this horrible story and the lack of anger and blame towards Schultz and Curley and even McQueary. I also have an issue with everyone assuming Joe Paterno HAD to know what was going on and ignored it. None of you people know anything about Paterno’s daily routine on campus or how much interaction Joe had with Sandusky after 1999.
November 10th, 2011 at 3:57 PM
Basically what SG said… what I’ve said all morning (in far more words)
November 10th, 2011 at 3:58 PM
/scribbles in notebook
November 10th, 2011 at 4:00 PM
What I meant to say:
“how do you professionally rape a child?”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
Ditto
November 10th, 2011 at 4:01 PM
The only mob I see is made up of drunk PSU students.
The grand jury report says that is exactly what he did. He was told in 2002 that there was buttfucking in the shower.
I understand he may be disputing that. But the one official court record we are privy to says pretty clearly what he told the jury.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:02 PM
A lack which you have made up based on limited interaction with a small subset of people. People are pissed. You just aren’t reading about it wherever you choose to read things
November 10th, 2011 at 4:03 PM
LOL, misplaced modifier alert.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
“how do you professionally rape a child?”
Jerry Sandusky could probably give a seminar or two.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:04 PM
The only reason I could understand feeling sorry for Paterno is if you believe he was too out of touch with reality – too senile, too old-fashioned, too whatever – to understand what was happening. I think you are making a leap of faith in doing so, at least as it pertains to 2002.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:05 PM
And even then an old man too stubborn or out of touch to know that he’s a liability is arguably still not a person worthy of sympathy.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:06 PM
With live-tweeting from the class by a PSU student? That would make a great post!
November 10th, 2011 at 4:06 PM
Good to hear.
Let’s get a post about the President, AD, and McQueary and we can discuss. All of the posts seem to be Paterno or media related. Additionally, everyone is outraged with all of them but with a sense of familiarity only with Paterno, the discussion tends to head in that direction.
He testified in a grand jury proceeding that McQueary told him exactly what was happening, on at least one particular occasion. He knew of at least one time and said as much to a grand jury.
If Paterno found the activity alluded to in the grand jury abhorrent, and had the balls to do so, he would’ve raised a commotion and Sandusky would’ve been booted off campus.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:07 PM
I’m not sure if this has been brought up yet or not, but I wonder what the mentality of Sandusky’s wife is right now. The grand jury report mentions her in passing for the most part, but there is a part, for Victim 6 or 7 I think, which mentions that she and others had called the Victim before he was due to meet with the grand jury….which sounds like potential, though certainly unproven, witness tampering.
That in turn makes me wonder what her involvement with all this has been. She knows that young boys have stayed in her house and that her husband was often alone with them. Did she ever object or find a problem with this? Was she anguished by her husband’s actions but eager to protect his good name? Was she, however disturbing the thought may be, an active accomplice? Or she was truly ignorant of what was happening, in some cases in her very home?
I don’t know the answer to any of these questions, but I am curious.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:08 PM
where does it say he ignored it?
November 10th, 2011 at 4:08 PM
I also have an issue with everyone assuming Joe Paterno HAD to know what was going on and ignored it
No one is assuming anything, he did know and he did not call police along with Curley, Shultz, McQueary, McQueary’s Dad, AD, President, J Calhoun, J Witherwrite and probably more. Hence the public wanting to know who was complicit/bereft of morals and have them punished. If you read the Grand Jury report you would already know what happened to Calhoun.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:10 PM
That’s not what it says though. I don’t want to mince details, but there is no testimony “I specifically told him this”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:11 PM
where does it say he ignored it?
From Victim 2 on would say Paterno et al. ignored it.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
That’s not what it says though. I don’t want to mince details, but there is no testimony “I specifically told him this”
It sounded to me like the Grad Assistant changed his story to a more generic version of events and only related how graphic the scene he witnessed later on.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:12 PM
You have a pretty glaring contradiction in your reasoning if you think Paterno is fine and this is a witch hunt since he passed it up the chain, but you think McQueary should be punished further.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:13 PM
The grand jury report says what Paterno told the grand jury McQueary told him. We don’t have to guess.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:14 PM
I don’t want to mince details,
Yes you do, so if Paterno was told Sandusky’s penis was in a 10 year old boy’s anus instead of ‘fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy’ he surely would have called police?
November 10th, 2011 at 4:14 PM
And he reported it, so that’s not exactly doing nothing. A majority of people here and in other places are insinuating that Paterno knew of everything from 1999 on and did nothing. You don’t know shit, so until you can present some proof, shut the fuck up.
Interesting that you’re assuming my entire interaction on this subject is based solely on posts from The Big Lead. I’ve read countless articles and watched countless news broadcasts about this story. 90% of the focus is on Joe Paterno and his involvement.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:15 PM
or as he has stated, the kid didn’t go into detail about what he saw. Now, that obviously runs against what is attributed to him in the grand jury testimony, so it’s a matter of whether or not you think he’s lying.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
If Paterno found the activity alluded to in the grand jury abhorrent, and had the balls to do so, he would’ve raised a commotion and Sandusky would’ve been booted off campus.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:16 PM
That’s what I am afraid of. If Paterno just heard ‘horseplay’ or slightly worse, but something he thought might not be a huge deal, he might not have acted as strongly as he would have otherwise.
If you are simply protecting a guy, I don’t know that you send it up to the AD. And if Paterno told the AD and they all agreed to protect him, then they should all go to jail, Paterno included. I feel like Paterno either needs significantly more blame or less blame than he is currently getting.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
Disagree. McQueary is a direct witness and all he did was tell a superior. Paterno DID NOT WITNESS THE INCIDENT. He reported what he was told second hand to two campus officials, one of which is in charge of the police force and has the ability to ban people from campus.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:17 PM
There is no way to misinterpret “penis” and “anus” and “rape”.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:18 PM
Funny, all I keep reading about here is the grand jury doc.
lol. OK.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:19 PM
Id find it hard to ruin someone’s life over horseplay and “sexual nature” (a possibly subjective term). If McQueary didn’t use explicit terms to Paterno, then he may have really helped in the rape of multiple more victims. Maybe details got back to Paterno, maybe not. Likely, we’ll never know the truth, but I think it’s important to at least realize that right now we know very little.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:21 PM
Lol. Yeah, the ginger called his dad, went to Paterno’s house the next day to tell him there was “horseplay”. Right.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
Again, may I remind you Paterno wasn’t the one that saw the kid getting fucked in the shower. You have no fucking idea whether or not Paterno even has the power to dictate removing someone’s emeritus status. He could yell and scream but that doesn’t mean the president of the university is going to do what he said.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
I feel bad for Paterno. He didn’t deserve to end his career this way. He is not evil. He is not a child molester. On the one hand I agree with Benjamin Franklin Rodriquez. Everyone seems eager to jump on JoePa. On the other hand, perhaps that’s because State College was a kingdom and nobody did anything without JoePa’s permission. The whole ordeal is sad. Joe is right about one thing–pray for the victims and their families.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
They each reported it up the chain. The consequences should be the same. Or another way to argue it is there was only one eyewitness, and he is being held less accountable than the guy who had nothing but second hand information.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:22 PM
And he reported it, so that’s not exactly doing nothing.
No it resulted in exactly nothing that’s the point.
insinuating that Paterno knew of everything from 1999 on and did nothing
He knew Sandusky was a pedophile running a children’s charity and free at large. Curley even admited that there was no way to enforce the campus ban or the bringing of children onto campus by Sandusyky on page 11.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:23 PM
I like how both both have the same access to the same facts, yet you know so much more than I do about what was said.
/works on reading comprehension
November 10th, 2011 at 4:25 PM
“Joseph V. Paterno testified to receiving the graduate assitant’s report at his home on Saturday morning. Paterno testified that the graduate assistant was very upset. Paterno called [Curley] to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy.”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Your condescending tone is always appreciated. If you don’t think Paterno could’ve raised enough of a stink to shine a light on the situation, which would then probably result in his removal from campus, then that’s where we will have to agree to disagree.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:28 PM
Sandusky, being much closer to Paterno than the President or head of security. The men had a relationship that lasted decades, right? But yeah, obviously he should have just treated this like an HR issue. Uh huh.
Stop feeling sorry for Paterno. He deserved the firing.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
Sandusky was investigated and let go in 99. Basically, the outcome of the investigation is Sandusky took a shower with a kid. What court are you going to to get a pedophilia conviction based on that info? But of course since Paterno is now Superman, he should have closed the case that the cops and CA couldn’t.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:29 PM
We’re talking about kids getting buttfucked here. This isn’t stealing the office supplies.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
He could yell and scream but that doesn’t mean the president of the university is going to do what he said.
Like everyone else he could have screamed into 911. Also fuck everyone who did not even bother to figure out who the kid was (pg 12). Can you fucking believe that? Fuck all of them.
WWOS seemingly would not call the police for an incident of sexual nature relayed to him by an employee with a young boy unless the words ‘rape’, ‘penis’ and ‘anus’ were involved. He would tell his superior though and for that we can all be real fucking grateful.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:30 PM
“Hey coach, you know that close friend of yours that was being investigated in 1999 for buttfucking kids? Well I actually saw him buttfucking kids.”
“OK, son, I’ll report this to HR immediately. Well, tomorrow.”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:31 PM
You obviously have never spent a lot of time in the state of New York
November 10th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
See the first sentence of comment 182.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
id like to think showering with a kid would get convicted of pedophilia in every court. seriously…in what region is showering with a child considered normal behavior?
/obviously don’t mean if it’s your child…more relating to the sandusky circumstances
November 10th, 2011 at 4:32 PM
What court are you going to to get a pedophilia conviction based on that info?
You obviously have never spent a lot of time in the state of New York
I laughed.
(sorry)
November 10th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
he also stole highlighters. HIGHLIGHTERS!
November 10th, 2011 at 4:33 PM
id like to think showering with a kid would get convicted of pedophilia in every court. seriously…in what region is showering with a child considered normal behavior?
FWIW, they also had him on the phone admitting that he touched the kid inappropriately, said he wished he were dead, and knew that he could never get forgiveness from the mother.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
“Hi dad. I just saw Sandusky butt fucking a 10 year old. I don’t know what to do.”
“Just call Paterno tomorrow.”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:34 PM
ATL_Badger,
no offense taken. NY may have the toughest laws regarding sex crimes in the nation. If not, they are top 5
November 10th, 2011 at 4:35 PM
YOU GET BACK IN THERE AND SHOW HIM HOW IT’S DONE, SON.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:36 PM
YOU GET BACK IN THERE AND SHOW HIM HOW IT’S DONE, GINGER
November 10th, 2011 at 4:37 PM
So you would have told him to go to the cops? Obviously, right? I mean, what an idiot?!?
So yeah, why didn’t Paterno take him to the cops? Why didn’t Paterno call the cops? Why didn’t Paterno even tell him to go to the cops?
Don’t feel sorry for Paterno, SG. C’mon.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy? Yet the grad assistant was able to tell the AD and VP exactly what he saw, which is much different than fondling. I’d be interested in seeing exactly how that question was asked and answer interpreted.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:38 PM
“Oh, you mean coach Sandusky, the guy who was being investigated for fondling kids three years ago? Hmm… well, we better take this to the proper authorities. The Penn State administrators.”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Sandusky was investigated and let go in 99. Basically, the outcome of the investigation is Sandusky took a shower with a kid.
What more do you need to know about someone running a children’s charity to pick up the fucking phone in 2002 after an additional incident?
/That goes for all involved not just the strawman de jour whose getting to much attention
November 10th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
I gotta run, but this has been hilarious.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:39 PM
Curley even admited that there was no way to enforce the campus ban or the bringing of children onto campus by Sandusyky on page 11.
If they knew and believed that he was doing shit that deserved the ban on bringing kids from campus, how could they in good conscious just sit there and let him run a children’s charity and hold OVERNIGHT FOOTBALL CAMPS USING PSU’S NAME IN 2009?
November 10th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Well, it didn’t in Pennsylvania in 1998.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
They called him that night and met early the next day.
/what the fuck is happening?
November 10th, 2011 at 4:41 PM
Your stupidity is pretty funny.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:43 PM
Your stupidity is pretty funny.
FWIW SG, telling people to fuck off and calling them stupid doesn’t do much to help get your point across. I understand that’s your shtick, and I know you think Paterno should have been fired, but it’s not like his point was way out there either, he’s not being stupid. You fundamentally don’t believe the GJ report, he does.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
What more do you need to know about someone running a children’s charity to pick up the fucking phone in 2002 after an additional incident?
I find myself agreeing with this point of view. Though as mentioned earlier, there is a part of the grand jury report which implies that Paterno was at first told a much more innocuous version of events by the grad assistant, who I can only imagine must have been in a state of shock and denial. Paterno was also at not the meeting that the grad assistant had with Curley about the incident where he went into more detail. So it’s difficult to know when exactly Paterno knew that his former assistant coach had been caught raping a child in the shower.
But back to your original point, I think you are correct that if someone who is running a children’s charity has a second allegation of sexual abuse within four years of the heavily investigated first allegation, that should set off some warning flags.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:44 PM
The VP oversees the Campus Police. The VP did not call the Campus Police. They didn’t even reopen the 98 files. But lets blame Paterno.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
Per the grand jury testimony: “A Penn State graduate assistant entered the locker room at the Lasch Football Building on a Friday night before Spring Break…the graduate assistant went to his office and called his father…THE NEXT MORNING, A SATURDAY the graduate assistant telephoned Paterno and went to Paterno’s home.”
November 10th, 2011 at 4:45 PM
oh, i have no dog in this fight…i was just thinking aloud there. kinda shocked.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
Well, it didn’t in Pennsylvania in 1998.
I think what was mentioned earlier is that there was not enough corroborating evidence for the DA to prosecute in that case. If I were a DA, I would certainly only want to prosecute a man of Sandusky’s stature in the community if I had pretty solid evidence.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:46 PM
As is your ability to discuss this without a condescending tone directed toward other commenters or outright insults.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:47 PM
yea, and all their evidence was liquid then.
OH!
/all right, im leaving
November 10th, 2011 at 4:48 PM
ell, it didn’t in Pennsylvania in 1998.
I think what was mentioned earlier is that there was not enough corroborating evidence for the DA to prosecute in that case. If I were a DA, I would certainly only want to prosecute a man of Sandusky’s stature in the community if I had pretty solid evidence.
I find it interesting.. the timing of the 1998 investigation, followed shortly thereafter with the retirement of Sandusky after JoePa told him he wouldn’t be the next HC (which, according to the GJ report, upset him a lot). JoePa obviously wasn’t thinking about retiring at the time, so why tell him that, other than because JoePa new about the ’98 investigation?
November 10th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
They called him that night and met early the next day.
My bad he caught the abuse at 9:30pm went to his office and called his dad (as stated both are morally bankrupt cowards). Went home to his parents house and called and met Paterno for Saturday morning. Paterno met Curley the next day. At that point is was 36 hours since the child was raped and no one called police or even bother to FIND OUT WHO THE KID WAS.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:51 PM
I find it interesting.. the timing of the 1998 investigation, followed shortly thereafter with the retirement of Sandusky after JoePa told him he wouldn’t be the next HC (which, according to the GJ report, upset him a lot). JoePa obviously wasn’t thinking about retiring at the time, so why tell him that, other than because JoePa new about the ’98 investigation?
Agreed. You know what else is interesting? That DA went missing a few years later. Speculate why all you want.
/TBL
November 10th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
That’s the thing though. I fundamentally believe the report. I don’t believe in taking the information from the report and assuming certain things were said or certain information was already known.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:53 PM
Of course he had to know about the 98 investigation where it was determined that a crime wasn’t committed. That’s why he told him he won’t coach at Penn State
November 10th, 2011 at 4:55 PM
people in glass houses, douche.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:57 PM
Of course he had to know about the 98 investigation where it was determined that a crime wasn’t committed. That’s why he told him he won’t coach at Penn State
I have to agree that this was most likely the case. Paterno was trying to ease Sandusky out by telling him that he wasn’t ever going to be the public face of the university. He was trying to dispose of this quietly.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:58 PM
Of course he had to know about the 98 investigation where it was determined that a crime wasn’t committed.
That’s false. Sandusky all but admitted a crime was committed during the investigation and said he wished he were dead. Just because they didn’t prosecute doesn’t mean a crime wasn’t committed.
November 10th, 2011 at 4:59 PM
Of course he had to know about the 98 investigation where it was determined that a crime wasn’t committed. That’s why he told him he won’t coach at Penn State
I have to agree that this was most likely the case
I read that as sarcasm. Perhaps my meter’s off today.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:01 PM
I read that as sarcasm. Perhaps my meter’s off today.
I don’t think Darrell does sarcasm. He doesn’t have time for it. But I could well be the one who is off here. I always try to allow for that possibility.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
I’m glad that’s what you managed to pull out of the post. It kind of proves the point of what you pulled, actually.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:03 PM
This was perfect.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
Whoa wait a second. Is it even legal for the police to pass on details of an investigation report to a person’s employer? I could maybe understand if he was convicted but he wasn’t even charged.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:04 PM
ok, they determined they didn’t have enough evidence that a crime was committed. If they could have arrested him for showering with the kid, they would have. The mother tried to get him to admit to doing more, but he wouldn’t bite. The comments about wishing he was dead was in regards to the shower.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:05 PM
people in glass houses, douche.
This was perfect.
I feel like SG needs her own theme music. So when she does this, we can all say like in a 70s sitcom “That’s our sportsgal!” and her theme music would start.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:07 PM
I don’t know what to tell you, guy. I’m just going to keep being condescending and slinging insults.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:10 PM
Dyn-o-mite!
Personally, I kind of hear the music when someone fails on Price is Right.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:14 PM
Wonder Woman!!
November 10th, 2011 at 5:15 PM
if Paterno had a reason that he was out of the loop and didn’t know about all this, wouldn’t he just come out and say so?
November 10th, 2011 at 5:16 PM
actually with Sportsgal, I always think of Tatum O’Neil in the Bad News Bears, cursing out Buttermaker.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:17 PM
actually with Sportsgal, I always think of Tatum O’Neil in the Bad News Bears, cursing out Buttermaker.
+1
November 10th, 2011 at 5:18 PM
I hear crickets for you.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:19 PM
that’s funny, because that’s one of the things I’m known for offline. I just happen to be teleworking from home today and a little po’d at all of the heat Paterno is taking. So, I have all day to let loose.
November 10th, 2011 at 5:21 PM
I can definitely see that. Also, for some reason, the other one that came to mind was the slow clap that escalated into shooting during the show the Cowboys attend in Tombstone. Curly stands up, says ‘fuck yeah’ and then everyone starts yelling and shooting the ceiling.