NFL and MLB Face Showdown Over Baltimore Ravens Opener
The NFL and MLB have a scheduling conflict, or a potential conflict, should the NFL not gets its way. The football league wants to open its season with a Ravens vs. Patriots game at Baltimore on Thursday Sept. 5, when the Orioles already have a home night game scheduled against the White Sox. The stadiums are adjacent. Pandemonium might ensue.
The NFL wants MLB to move its game to the afternoon.
“I have talked to Major League Baseball,” Goodell told reporters. “I have called Bud Selig twice and spoken to him about that. We are trying to work out an accommodation to allow the Orioles’ game to happen earlier in the afternoon and the Ravens to celebrate their Super Bowl championship with their fans at home on Thursday night. We think that is the right thing. We have agreed to move the game a little bit later in the evening to try to accommodate the baseball game.
“We think it will be a great day. As a kid who grew up as an Orioles fan, to have the Orioles game in the afternoon and then go to the Ravens’ Super Bowl championship celebration for the Kickoff Game will be a great day. We hope that is the way it will happen.”
MLB does not want to move its game to the afternoon, because both teams are flying in from road night games the night before.
“It doesn’t just involve the Orioles,” Katy Feeney, MLB’s senior vice president for club relations and scheduling, told the Baltimore Sun. “There is another team. The Orioles and White Sox have been on the schedule for quite awhile. Both teams are coming off a night game (on the road). It’s late in the season. To ask them to play a day game is rough, plus you have to factor in the impact on attendance and broadcast revenue.
“Conceivably both teams could be in playoff contention, so it wouldn’t be fair to them to make them play a day game after both teams played a night game and traveled the night before.”
Expect MLB to cave on this. Sure, the league has already made its schedule. Yes, Selig won’t want to appear bullied. But is hard to see might not making right here. Baseball is a schooner on starboard tack. The NFL is a freighter heading at full steam.
The NFL is bigger. This concerns the season opener, not a random regular season game. The Ravens sell out a 70,000-seat stadium. Last year’s Orioles/White Sox series at Oriole Park, with both teams in playoff contention in August, averaged just 11,800 fans. That was the listed attendance. It’s hard to argue MLB, the league that makes contingency plans every time it rains, faces an undue burden adjusting the start time. It’s hard to argue one slightly moved game out of 162 would create significant disparity.
Forcing the Ravens to open on the road, right or not, would seem petty. The NFL would ensure that is the narrative. Perhaps, after thinking long and hard about this, baseball might realize having a few thousand extra people pre-gaming at Oriole Park might not be a bad thing.
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March 19th, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Baseball is a schooner on starboard tack.
If this is bait for Der Kaiser, then it’s pretty good.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Totally agree.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
What’s the problem then?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:11 PM
Go Sox!
March 19th, 2013 at 3:13 PM
MLB has nothing to lose by being complete dicks here.
I’m also not sure you dismissive ‘logic’ is really all that true.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:13 PM
counter #1) so fucking what?
counter #2) see counter #1
March 19th, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Happy to meet your accommodation Roger, after all you’ve always looked out for our best interests
March 19th, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Is there some kind of city law against holding simultaneous events? Don’t know why NFL cares so much. Just hold the game whenever you want.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:17 PM
cmon MLB…it’s 1 of 162! miserable bastards
March 19th, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Fuck the NFL. Those pricks weren’t willing to move Monday Night Football for the World Series when both were scheduled a few years ago (later avoided by Rockies losing in 4).
But still. I’d not only host the game that night, but I’d offer dollar beers, pole dances in the suites, and I’d pay Ray Lewis $30 Million to sit behind homeplate for the game.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:18 PM
OT: There have been a lot of retrospectives on the 10th anniversary of the invasion of Baghdad. The most interesting thing I’ve learned in any retrospective is that retired General Tommy Franks is now on the Board of Directors of Chuck E. Cheese’s.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:18 PM
I’ll lose a lot of respect for MLB if Selig moves the game. I don’t think the benefit of having Ravens fans pregame there is an actual thing, but just a talking point when people run out of facts.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:19 PM
And by Baghdad, I mean Iraq as a whole….seeing Tommy Franks on the Board of Chuck E. Cheese’s kind of melted my brain a little.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Cool of Tim Ryan to lend Bud that shirt. Those grazy stains came out in the wash apparently.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Selig and MLBPA are right in telling Goddell to f off, and they should.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
I’ll lose a lot of respect for MLB if Selig moves the game.
I’ll lose respect for Selig, but not so much for the league as a whole. Though in terms of respect for Selig, the well has been pretty low for awhile.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
If they can get FOX and Dane Cook to promote the game for weeks in advance…
March 19th, 2013 at 3:20 PM
I greatly enjoyed this.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:21 PM
I can’t believe that would be the only instance of teams traveling overnight and playing a scheduled afternoon game during the season…does every team the Cubs play at home on Fridays get Thursday nights off?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Awesome
March 19th, 2013 at 3:22 PM
cmon MLB…it’s 1 of 162! miserable bastards
How is this MLB’s fault or problem. The problem lies with the city and the NFL who wants to hold this game on a Thursday and at night.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:22 PM
I can’t believe that would be the only instance of teams traveling overnight and playing a scheduled afternoon game during the season
I don’t think that was so much MLB’s point, it was more that they would be playing a day game after a night of traveling late in the season.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:22 PM
General Tommy Franks is now on the Board of Directors of Chuck E. Cheese’s.
I am pretty sure they are testing chemical warfare by releasing it in those ball pits. Any child that goes in one of those is dealing with some Gulf War Syndrome for a week or two. Will wipe out your family.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:23 PM
Gotta imagine it’ll be Angelos’ call here. He’ll get enough local pressure and have Selig move the game.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:23 PM
I fail to see an issue here, just play the games at the same time. Happens all the time come September Sundays in every city with both an MLB and NFL team.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:24 PM
Bud can’t do this on a whim too. He needs approval from both clubs, the MLBPA, and all of the players on both teams that are in MLBPA. Hence the reason why Selig should and will continue to tell Goddell to pound sand. That and the whole World Series thing.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:25 PM
So?
That’s like having the justification for rich people to pay taxes is because “you have so much more money than I do”. There’s lots of good reasons to have wealthy pay more taxes… “c’mon” is not one of them.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:25 PM
Bud can’t do this on a whim too. He needs approval from both clubs, the MLBPA, and all of the players on both teams that are in MLBPA. Hence the reason why Selig should and will continue to tell Goddell to pound sand. That and the whole World Series thing.
Agreed and agreed. And the MLBPA isn’t one to roll over for anyone. Quite possibly the single most powerful union in this entire country.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:26 PM
To be fair, they gained a lot of that power by taking PEDs
March 19th, 2013 at 3:27 PM
But is hard to see might not making right here.
Totally agree.
he obviously left out today’s thesaurus word. Probably just forgot. it probably actually goes
But is hard to see might not making anathema right here.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:27 PM
To be fair, they gained a lot of that power by taking PEDs
And by mainly being rich and white.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:28 PM
Camden Yards, where 375 to left center is a power alley.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:28 PM
NFL could play Wednesday, they just don’t want to lose this battle.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:29 PM
How is this MLB’s fault or problem.
it’s not. it’s my rationale for why they should ease up
March 19th, 2013 at 3:30 PM
NFL moved last years opening game to Wed for Obama’s DNC speech so they have set a precedent that they are willing to move the first game of the season. MLB should hold their ground.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Will wipe out your family.
mcdonald’s has full used condoms. chuckie cheese’s just trying to keep up
March 19th, 2013 at 3:31 PM
Not unlike the Orioles to be dicks, either. Buck Showalter switching his OFs every inning.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Whining isn’t a rationale. You are spending too much time with your kids.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Thursday’s the biggest ad revenue night of the week if I’m not mistaken, only the POTUS is getting that game moved a day
March 19th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Whining isn’t a rationale. You are spending too much time with your kids.
dammit, i don’t feel like engaging. i’ll just say ok
March 19th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
If I’m the NFL I tell MLB to fuck off. Have the game when they want the game to be played and watch fans flock to one and avoid the other.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:34 PM
Is there some kind of city law against holding simultaneous events? Don’t know why NFL cares so much
The stadiums are right across from each other.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Rosh Hashanah. NFL already sad no.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
/forwards idea to Coors Field
//gives proper attribution
March 19th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Is the get-away-day rule that prohibits this game being played in the afternoon one of the things the union fought for? I couldn’t see this going over well if that’s the case.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Gotta imagine it’ll be Angelos’ call here.
That’s never a good thing to hear
March 19th, 2013 at 3:36 PM
said*
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
No it won’t.
How many people do the O’s expect to draw on a Thursday night against Chicago on the same night the Super Bowl Champion Ravens are playing?
10,000? Maybe?
Just leave the schedule like it is.
/something, something, wire joke, something, something
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
This is fantastic.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Yep. Have lots of stuff going on before, too, so you can take all the Orioles’ parking.
They play on it all the time. It’s all about the Thursday/stubbornness. They don’t give a shit about Rosh Hashanah.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
The NFL will have to do some kind of payout to make it work. That’s what Selig’s angling for. And then the White Sox and O’s will tank the season and make it an extra hilarious situation that ends in a rain out.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
You know. I would be HILARIOUS if the NFL gets their way, and the baseball game goes 18 innings. But not one of those 18 inning games where you wish MLB made a rule that beer sales reopen if the game goes 7 innings more than the that 7th ending death penalty on beer sales.
I’m talking one of those games where runs are bastardizing the scoreboards. Home run after home run. The teams run out of pitchers and they’re forced to potentially blow some position player’s career to get the ball over the plate.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:37 PM
Not sure this is apples to apples.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
They’ve had no issue playing Sunday Night games on Yom Kippur or playing on Christmas. Invalid argument. Tough shit NFL.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Unless the Orioles are in the thick of a race, this is precisely what’s going to happen.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Not sure the NFL would give a fuck as the Ravens would sell out and the TV audience would be massive. This isn’t a fight MLB can win. I’m shocked the NFL gave a shit to even try to work anything out personally. Have them at the same time and let the consumer decide what they want.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
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March 19th, 2013 at 3:39 PM
Yeah they’re not worried about losing black viewers to a baseball game, for one.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:40 PM
I’m betting the former can just play to their ability and be out of contention by the time this game rolls around
March 19th, 2013 at 3:40 PM
Bravo
March 19th, 2013 at 3:41 PM
The MLB can win this fight. See comment 10.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:42 PM
Where else could this happen? I know in Detroit both are right next to each other but that won’t be an issue because Lions
March 19th, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Wouldn’t there be some sort of parking/overcrowding issue since they are adjacent? I’m no Baltimore expert
March 19th, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Kansas City’s stadiums share a parking lot. Hilarious to think that either team would be in contention at this point, though
March 19th, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Where else could this happen? I know in Detroit both are right next to each other but that won’t be an issue because Lions
San Francisco? Candlestick is pretty close to whatever the Giants’ stadium is currently named, right?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Ha. Sandy Koufax beat them to it.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:45 PM
If you consider “several miles” close.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:45 PM
San Francisco? Candlestick is pretty close to whatever the Giants’ stadium is currently named, right?
Not really. I mean, they’re close in the sense that San Francisco is a pretty tiny city but they aren’t right across the street from each other.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Contract the Orioles, problem solved.
/ JMac’d
March 19th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
If you consider “several miles” close.
I don’t know why, but I thought they were right by each other.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Oh I got one! Oakland!
/laughs at Raider fans.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:47 PM
Philadelphia…all three arenas are in the same 1/2 mile radius.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:48 PM
Just have the four teams standing on the field at the same time and see which league backs down first
March 19th, 2013 at 3:49 PM
Haven’t there been Sundays where the Phils have been playing postseason ball at the same time as the Eagles or do they get those spaced out a bit?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:49 PM
that sound you hear are shanks being sharpened on the concrete.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
that sound you hear are shanks being sharpened on the concrete.
As I am currently in an office building and not in a bar or the county jail, I think they will have trouble finding me.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Arrowhead and the Royals stadium are just across I-70 from each other, aren’t they?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
NFL should punch MLB in their vagina for not bending over
March 19th, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Or just fight it out Anchorman style.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Nah, Raiders fans just keep their already-sharpened shanks from their stints at Pelican Bay.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:52 PM
Is Candlestick even technically in SF? I mean, it’s nowhere near the downtown area where AT&T park is if my memory serves me right.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:53 PM
Wouldn’t there be some sort of parking/overcrowding issue since they are adjacent? I’m no Baltimore expert
As the 100k that showed up for the SB parade caused 4+ hour traffic jams and small scale rioting, I’d think both at the same time is off the table.
/granted, the O’s are drawing no more than 20k even if they are in playoff race
March 19th, 2013 at 3:53 PM
Speaking of Oakland, I have to imagine that fitting in late season/playoff MLB games in with an early season NFL schedule was even more complicated when lots of teams shared dual-use stadiums. San Francisco, San Diego, Houston, Seattle, Minnesota, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Miami, just off the top of my head, all used to have stadiums that were shared by NFL and MLB franchises.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:53 PM
Speaking of shanks, hearing Justified is going to be incredible tonight
March 19th, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Nope, same side. Just a parking lot.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:54 PM
share a parking lot.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:55 PM
No one posts a cliched Wire reference?
March 19th, 2013 at 3:57 PM
It is just inside the city limits. It’s about 5 miles south of SOMA, which is where AT&T stands, about a mile from the Financial District.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:57 PM
Obvious NFL is all powerful. It even made the Rose Bowl change its schedule.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Mount Davis uber alles.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:58 PM
In an amazing feat of city planning and engineering, the entire city of San Francisco is not located downtown.
Candlestick & AT&T are not very close, but both are in SF, so this wouldn’t be that big of deal in SF. I think the primary issue is how close the two stadiums are. The Philly stadium complex would offer a similar issue.
Though I must say, “NFL is King” honks are the fucking worst. And I love football.
March 19th, 2013 at 3:59 PM
I heard the Rose Bowl has always been on Jan. 1.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:00 PM
While the smugness is there, I also laughed, so it’s good.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:00 PM
i think there was a Phil’s home playoff game the same day as a home Eagles game a couple years ago. Eagles played at 1, Phil’s at 7. THose two stadiums are right next to eachother, we always tailgate in the Linc parking lot for Phillie’s games.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Just remembered that Cowboys Stadium and Rangers Ballpark are right next to each other in Arlington. I went to an, uh, Taylor Swift concert at Cowboys Stadium in October 2011 the same night that the Rangers were playing the Tigers in the ALCS. Parking was bad even for the large, empty, desolate wasteland that is Arlington, Texas.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:04 PM
PNC Park and Heinz Field are pretty much next to each other, but the Pirates are going to be contracted soon. There will be no issue.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Turn in your manhood card and depart the state of Texas forever.
/ That boy ain’t right
March 19th, 2013 at 4:06 PM
It’s scary sometimes to learn about TBL commenters.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Yes there have. In 2009 there was a 1pm Eagles game and then an 8pm Phillies game. But usually they space the games out. There are times when there are September Phillies & Eagles games at the same time though.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:09 PM
Thinking about all of the 18-21 year old chicks at the event aren’t you? Pro move.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:09 PM
The Ravens might be forced to play on a Sunday? Wow, can’t believe baseball would expect them to not play on a Thursday night.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Seattle, but it would probably take the Mariners a week and a half to draw the same number of fans the Seahawks do for one game.
interesting.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Turn in your manhood card and depart the state of Texas forever.
/ That boy ain’t right
Yeah, it’s a long story.
However, I will say this: going to a stadium that holds 100,000 people and not having to wait in line for the bathroom or the bar is pretty cool.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:10 PM
ALL THURSDAY NIGHT NFL GAMES NEED TO GO AWAY FOREVER
March 19th, 2013 at 4:11 PM
Well, that’ll take care of a few of those pensions that are driving MLB bankrupt.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:11 PM
Some may question you masculinity, unlessshe wrote a song about you, then you’re a legend.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:12 PM
I went to an, uh, Taylor Swift concert
Yeah, it’s a long story.
You’re dating Jay V. That’s not very complicated at all.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:12 PM
In my case, I’d be thinking about how they’d all call me “sir.”
/ Weeps
March 19th, 2013 at 4:13 PM
You’re dating Jay V. That’s not very complicated at all.
Thanks for ruining it. Asshole.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:13 PM
ALL THURSDAY NIGHT NFL GAMES NEED TO GO AWAY FOREVER
I mostly agree but the Thursday night opener and Thanksgiving games are fine. The other 15, though, are the worst 15 games of the year
March 19th, 2013 at 4:14 PM
He was pretty green, he wouldn’t hump me
He was mean to me, and then he dumped me
Wait, has Taylor Swift ever written a song about Tebow?
March 19th, 2013 at 4:14 PM
No, they make the Cubs or the visiting team play a DAY game on Thursday. Whenever the Cards schedule comes out, and I see a weekday game scheduled in June, July and August, I always look to the next day to see if the Cards or their opponents are going to Chicago next. And 99% of the time they are. Also happens in Cincy.
I know the Cards don’t like to schedule home games in that summertime heat, but they are forced to do so by MLB.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I actually like the Week 1 Thursday games for the Super Bowl champs. Gives them their own night for winning it all.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:15 PM
NFL should just say fuck it and schedule games Thursday through Monday. 17 long weekends a year.
/pay congress to let them play staurday
March 19th, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Let me clarify: with the exception of week one and Thanksgiving, like stark said.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:18 PM
Thinking about all of the 18-21 year old chicks at the event aren’t you? Pro move.
beat me to it
March 19th, 2013 at 4:18 PM
The 49ers should really play in Week 1 since the Ravens Super Bowl MVP now plays for them. Problem solved.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Rahim Moore moved to the Niners?
March 19th, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Goddam beat me to the punch Nada.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:24 PM
I also thought the Rosh Hashanah comment was beyond comical. This is the league that schedule Thanksgiving and Christmas Day games every year.
Is it because of all the Jewish players in the league?
More likely because of all the Jewish executives in the league who actually really need this “day of cleansing” due to all the people they step on throughout the year.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:28 PM
Eh, meshuggeneh.
March 19th, 2013 at 4:48 PM
a baltimore post.
/punches Queefer
March 19th, 2013 at 4:48 PM
Don’t cave, BUD!
Who gives a shit? Completely irrelevant.
Maybe, but “forcing” them to play on Sunday would not seem anything but normal.
/late to the party here
//baseball wins
March 19th, 2013 at 4:51 PM
also, whoopdifuckindo..Philly’s stadiums are all next to each other and there have been events in at least 2 of the buildings at once.
March 19th, 2013 at 5:02 PM
also, whoopdifuckindo..Philly’s stadiums are all next to each other and there have been events in at least 2 of the buildings at once.
There is also a shit-ton of parking available. I don’t think you folks who’ve never been to Baltimore understand what a clusterfuck parking is down there.
Also…it’s worth mentioning that holding an event at the Ravens Stadium during an O’s game violates the terms of the lease, as well as city ordinances.
March 19th, 2013 at 9:33 PM
HEY WHAT THE SHIT I WAS SLEEPING!
This is dumb. The orioles should and will move the game, the two teams should team to market the fuck out of this thing.
Parking is a legit problem, though. The two lots essentially overlap, meaning a lot of psl owners wouldn’t have spots. That won’t fly.