The Readers Select Kansas, Duke, Miami and New Mexico as #1 Seeds

All, College Basketball Jason Lisk March 17th. 2013, 12:11am

Earlier today, I ran a poll using a blind taste test to determine the #1 seeds, listing just the record against opponents ranked at various levels in the RPI. You have spoken, and, well, I think your choices have very little chance of actually happening on Sunday. It seems pretty clear that readers do not care about bad losses when it comes to the #1 seeds, because Miami and Kansas were among the leaders, and dinged teams from tough conferences who had near .500 records against the top opponents but dominated the rest of their schedule. Here is who each of the profiles represented:

Alligators = Indiana, if they won the Big Ten Tournament
Bartenders = Louisville, if they won the Big East Tournament
Camels = Miami if they won the ACC Tournament (over NC State and North Carolina)
Dinosaurs = Michigan State if they won the Big Ten Tournament
Elephants = Kansas if they won the Big XII Tournament
Fish = Gonzaga
Gnus = Duke
Hippos = New Mexico if they won the Mountain West Tournament
Iguanas = Georgetown
Jaguars = Indiana, if they lost to Wisconsin in Big Ten semis

Indiana, if they had won the Big Ten tournament, would have been one of the top vote getters, but alas, that didn’t happen. The top vote getters still alive were Kansas, Duke, Miami (if they win the ACC tomorrow), and New Mexico. Gonzaga was fifth. Louisville didn’t even rank, and well, I actually think they will now be the top overall #1 seed.

Here, by the way, are the top 20 teams in my W.A.M.A.L. (Wins Over Median At Large). I can understand why voters would look at, say, New Mexico’s RPI profile and put it ahead of Indiana. However, the nature of those Top 25 games (vs. Michigan State, Michigan, Ohio State, compared to UNLV, Colorado State, San Diego State) are different. The teams in italics can still improve their rating with games tomorrow.

I know the committee does not use this measure explicitly, but I think they take a closer look at things and this is a good approximation. Will the Kansas Jayhawks get a #1 seed after winning the tournament title and sweeping Kansas State in three games? I think they have a chance.

In my opinion, Louisville is the clear #1 overall choice after winning the Big East tournament. Gonzaga should hold on to a #1 seed based on how the other conference tournaments played out. Indiana will still likely get the third based on winning the Big Ten outright. The fourth? Duke or Kansas. How much will the committee consider the TCU loss, versus Duke not winning the ACC regular season or tournament. We shall see tomorrow.

[photo via USA Today Sports Images]

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26 Responses to “The Readers Select Kansas, Duke, Miami and New Mexico as #1 Seeds”

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Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 12:18 AM
Bill Walton is trying to talk himself into a suspension or removal.
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TNCOWBOY7 Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 12:21 AM
Should have posted this tomorrow Lisk for more eyeballs. I never understand half the stuff you write because I cant add 4 and 4. That said, I really hate the “bad” loss metric. Play good teams to get your SOS up but if you have a bad night and get housed by 20 its going be held over your head like the Sword of Damocles.
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TNCOWBOY7 Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Bill Walton is trying to talk himself into a suspension or removal.
Details! Im watching 40 Year Old Virgin again.
This is his way of sticking up for Simmons. Im telling you.
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Dawgfather Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 1:30 AM
Bill Walton is trying to talk himself into a suspension or removal.
He has been trying to do this for 30 years.
How could the Zags not get a 1 seed by any metric? 31-2 at any level is domination in basketball. Check out that graphic on the side of the TBL home screen, the best high school teams in the country have a hell of a time going undefeated.
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TNCOWBOY7 Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 1:35 AM
Hell, I thought this was Sunday. See, I cant even add days on the calendar.
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JayhawkerJ Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 3:18 AM
And we still can’t get a post about Elijah Johnson splitting Spradling’s legs…
Also, call me the next time Walton says something that remotely resembles coherent thought. That game was hard to listen to, he criticized Oregon for a long two not being a three while the ducks were up ten with two minutes left.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 3:19 AM
To marry the Irish is to look for poverty.
J. P. Donleavy
Fer fuck.

This is very, very irish.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 3:19 AM
Whiskey.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 3:45 AM
Father Ted bitches. Father Ted.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 3:57 AM
Another grand father ted.

Can`t find it but the plane episode is classic.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
I am already bleeding.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 9:08 AM
It’s a fucking island less than the population of Chicago that has always chased it’s youth away through poverty, wars and now it’s stupid internet laws coupled with a crippling debt repayment plan of austerity for the next few generations. Ireland certainly is not above being associated with a party day. That scumbag Elizabeth the first and the largest colonial power in history tried to systematically destroy the culture, a famine was cultivated (yes cultivated) to wipe them out. Even as recent as that bastard Thatcher mused aloud about destroying Ireland. But it remains, and for hilarious and accurate reasons its culture or assumed culture is celebrated across the world. Imagine the benefit for an economically challenged country of little resources to have the whole world enthusiastically consume their exports for one day. Fantastic. Go get drunk today, listen to some music and remember that the harp on the Guinness is because a (scumbag) Queen of the world threatened to kill all of us who dared to have a voice.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Will the bars ever fucking open? Cheers to Katie Taylor.
http://youtu.be/NLZRWNdGCUc
By a lonely prison wall
I heard a young girl calling
Micheal they are taking you away
For you stole Trevelyn’s corn
So the young might see the morn.
Now a prison ship lies waiting in the bay.
Low lie the Fields of Athenry
Where once we watched the small free birds fly.
Our love was on the wing we had dreams and songs to sing
It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.
By a lonely prison wall
I heard a young man calling
Nothing matters Mary when you’re free,
Against the Famine and the Crown
I rebelled they ran me down
Now you must raise our child with dignity.
Low lie the Fields of Athenry
Where once we watched the small free birds fly.
Our love was on the wing we had dreams and songs to sing
It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.
By a lonely harbor wall
She watched the last star falling
As that prison ship sailed out against the sky
Sure she’ll wait and hope and pray
For her love in Botany Bay
It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.
Low lie the Fields of Athenry
Where once we watched the small free birds fly.
Our love was on the wing we had dreams and songs to sing
It’s so lonely ’round the Fields of Athenry.
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conjugalbootz Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:21 AM
/downs Guinness in honor of Soused
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Just received this message:
So, what are you up to today, you big ol’ sack of crap? You are my favorite epic day-where-it-is-socially-acceptable-to-be-super-drunk-early guy! They always end in good decisions, I find. Like steamy jumps into the crystal clear waters of the Toronto Harbour or overdosing on date rape cocktails in underground crack palaces.
I think you should come down here. You can bring the dog. And perhaps we might venture to a bar if we feel as though we got game. I have been drunk since Friday night. I went to bed last night with three Philippinos sleep on my living room floor. One of them – a former meth dealer from some slum who moved to Canada to get his life together – has disappeared after my friends re-introduced him to drugs. He was last seen muttering to himself and puking in the sink at 5am before disappearing into the night. He is presume to be very much sold into the sex trade by now. Fun times! So come over.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Sláinte conjugalbootz.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:37 AM
How could the Zags not get a 1 seed by any metric? 31-2 at any level is domination in basketball.
Because they won’t even make it to the Sweet 16. Fuck Gonzaga.
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KC Resident Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
This was put up at midnight?
Will the Kansas Jayhawks get a #1 seed after winning the tournament title and sweeping Kansas State in three games? I think they have a chance.
Nah. TCU.
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KC Resident Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Elijah Johnson splitting Spradling’s legs…
That was sick.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:50 AM
I’m out, you cunts get super drunk today, while Irish please do not beat women, become christian, drive or impregnate a poverty stricken woman 10 times while you drink yourself away. But do read some good stuff, listen to some harp while drinking harp and puke in the street brandishing a thumbs up to the public to let know them that: 1. You are okay 2. This is okay.
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sousedbergin Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 10:53 AM
By Christian I mean Catholic and by Catholic I mean morally bankrupt. Finally if someone could please piss on the West Minster Abbey tomb of Elizabeth The First that would be super.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 12:05 PM
I think if you did the blind poll, with Indiana losing the B1G tourney, they’d have beaten New Mexico.
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Wide Word of Sport (?) Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 12:09 PM
BTW, I think this is a cool idea, and glad you did this Lisk. Sorry it got thread-jacked by SoB.
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conjugalbootz Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 1:00 PM
BTW, I think this is a cool idea, and glad you did this Lisk. Sorry it got thread-jacked by SoB.
Agreed.
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tall "order restored" guy Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 1:08 PM
How could the Zags not get a 1 seed by any metric? 31-2 at any level is domination in basketball
Stephen F Austin is 27-4 and won’t be dancing. Records are judged by context.
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Dawgfather Says:
March 17th, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Stephen F Austin is 27-4 and won’t be dancing. Records are judged by context.
SFA plays in a far worse conference, lost 2 more games, didn’t win their conference tourney, played a far weaker non-conference schedule. No good non-conference wins and they lost 2 of 3 to Northwestern State. The best team in the mighty Southland conference made the tourney. Zags and SFA are like apples to oranges.