The Warriors and Wizards Turned Down James Harden When the Thunder Offered Him, Bill Simmons Says
A few days late on this one, but over the weekend, Bill Simmons dropped this nugget in a column:
Multiple sources have told me that, when Oklahoma City’s Sam Presti decided to shop James Harden, Golden State was his first call. He wanted Klay Thompson and a pick. The Warriors would only consider the trade if Oklahoma City took back Biedrins or Jefferson for 2013 expirings, knowing they’d get crushed by the luxury tax in 2014 with Harden’s extension plus Steph Curry’s extension plus David Lee plus Bogut/Jefferson/Biedrins.13 At that point, Presti went to Washington (offering Harden for Bradley Beal, and unbelievably getting turned down), then Houston (where the shopping heated up). Presti never ended up calling Golden State back.
The Wizards portion had been covered previously, back in December, and everyone got a good laugh out of it. But the Warriors had a shot at Harden and passed? That’s wild because of the potential of a Curry/Harden backcourt. That would have paired, arguably, two of the top six players at their respective positions, in the same backcourt.
(Counter argument: Harden needs the ball to be successful – just like Monta Ellis! Except he’s a much better all around player than Ellis.)
Klay Thompson is a promising scorer (16.6 ppg), who isn’t shooting quite as well as last season – 42% FGs, 39% three’s – but is still only 23.
But Presti is too smart to take on a horrendous contract, so this is all a moot point. Blasted luxury tax and owners who care about such things!
Hey, so how is that Harden deal working out for the Thunder so far? We know the Rockets are well ahead of schedule (thanks to Harden), and probably playoff-bound, but Kevin Martin has quietly had a very nice year in OKC: 14.3 ppg, 44/42/89. It’s his highest field goal percentage since 2007-2008, and he’s never shot the ball this well from deep.
Life with Westbrook and Durant is clearly the good life. Jeremy Lamb: 19 games, probably has spent more time in the D-League. Hasheem Thabeet is playing 11 minutes a night, which is a lot for him. You don’t always get a win-win in NBA trades, but what looked like a steal for the Rockets, so far, has been good for both teams.

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March 15th, 2013 at 5:09 PM
I’m not sure we were all laughing at the Wizards back then or now.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Warriors love Thompson, so I guess they have no regrets. Wizards don’t hate Beal yet…and he’s showing nice potential.
Wonder why Simmons mentioned this now? What’s to gain?
March 15th, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Wonder why Simmons mentioned this now? What’s to gain?
Adding to the aura of greatness around his mediocre-to-slightly-above-average GM buddy in Houston.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:11 PM
Notoriety within ESPN and getting people to know who he is.
/lazy comment
//for you, Hernia
March 15th, 2013 at 5:13 PM
stark, I suspected as much. I just get a little nonplussed at that type of column.
“You know, the Grizzlies almost signed LeBron James…but they didn’t.” Pfft.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:22 PM
Speaking of Simmons, his usual Friday column isnt up.
Spite?
March 15th, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Because it was relevant to the column he was writing. I don’t think he was trying to “gain” anything.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Grantland operates on pacific time, so it might be up later.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:32 PM
West coast bias? Love it
March 15th, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Yep, you got me.
I don’t read his work nearly as much as I did 5 or so years ago. When he was the “Boston Sports Guy”, I diligently read his columns.
Now that he’s a big-shot media mogul, I’m not as interested. It takes more than a cuss word or five to keep my attention.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:35 PM
His stuff on the NBA continues to be high-quality. His NFL stuff is terrible.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Even in the old days, his passion for the NBA was evident. I thought his football stuff (at least regarding the Pats) was alright, given how big a homer he is.
To me (to me, I say), now when I read his columns it seems he’s trying too hard to be edgy. Do what you gotta do to stand out, I guess.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:39 PM
“making a bunch of neat little moves that don’t amount to anything” seems to be Morey’s M.O. Asik turned out to be a bargain. Parsons was a steal. that Lithuanian kid looks good, and Robinson still might turn out to be a useful player. and after all that they still might win two games in the first round this year.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:47 PM
That Beal rumor has been mentioned by multiple reporters since the trade. And I think even the Klay Thompson rumor’s been around, except without the details on the contracts. Not exactly breaking stuff here.
March 15th, 2013 at 5:55 PM
Morey’s the best GM in the NBA. Unlike the other sports, it doesn’t mean as much. It’s all so dependent on having 1 or 2 great players.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Side effects of a league with a salary cap – potential for widespread mediocrity (NFL’s “parity”).
March 15th, 2013 at 6:10 PM
So, the Wizards get laughed at more for not trading for Harden than OKC does for actually trading him?
March 15th, 2013 at 6:32 PM
The idea that it was a bad move by the Wizards is confounding to begin with but if you call it laughable then it just makes you seem like, to borrow some phraseology, a clueless clown. Beal is the truth and he’s 19 years old.
March 15th, 2013 at 6:53 PM
The idea that a team is laughed at for not giving up the player they chose third in the draft for a sixth man, who was no more than the third option on offense is laughable.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:09 PM
It’s too bad those of us in Houston do not get to see Harden because of Comcast fucking it up!
March 15th, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Name a trade Morey has flat-out lost?
A few moderate FA signings did not work out as well as Asik/Lin (Brent Barry, Trevor Ariza), but both of those players were shipped out and used for acquiring better players. The only player I can think of that was better *after* Morey traded him is Batum.
Morey inherited a team that had Yao/McGrady and 10 nobodies and turned it into a roster that is 10 deep in any given year. Team is also youngest in the league and primed to do in 3 years what OKC is doing now if another star is paired with Harden in next 1-2 years.
Morey has maxed out his assets. What more can you ask of a GM?
March 15th, 2013 at 7:51 PM
He’s good, but he needs to improve his FG%. .400 make him another Eric Gordon.
March 15th, 2013 at 7:54 PM
.400 plus a lot of injuries and being overhyped makes you eric gordon
March 15th, 2013 at 7:56 PM
A guy who still averaged 16.8 ppg in 2011-12 as a sixth man (and behind two all-pro starters) following a similar 2010-11 campaign producing 12.2 ppg— versus a relatively unproven rookie? And Harden now gets 26.2 ppt as a starter? I wouldn’t call that laughable. And we all know that picks 1-5 in any draft aren’t solid gold over time.
But I will definitely agree that a player producing points like Beal on a rookie deal is far more value driven than a max contract player like Harden became. Beal has heated up enough now to make the deal appear more and more unnecessary.
March 15th, 2013 at 8:27 PM
Those are JR Smith type numbers, would you give him a max deal off of that? They’re still numbers from a sixth man, who was considered exposed in the Finals. He is having a great year in a system that compliments his talents and masks his weaknesses very well. That being said, the Wizards still did the right thing.
March 15th, 2013 at 8:36 PM
I don’t exactly diasgree with your point. His point per minutes in 2011-12 as the sixth man weren’t otherworldly either. I certainly wouldn’t give JR Smith a max deal to your point. I would have felt better if I were the Wiz and this were year 2 for Beal with no sign of improvement. As it stands it probably was a fair gamble, especially with the cap hit.
It will be very interesting to see this trade(or lack thereof for the Wiz) with the hindsight of 2 years or so. Who knows…
March 15th, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Looking at JR Smith’s stats now, I see your point more clearly and can’t really argue with your comparison.