yeah I’d say where the police dept dont do their jobs and judges are fucked up and acquiesce to cronyism and not the law. If the cops here just did their job right the first time without the glare of outside media none of this would even be a fucking issue.

Has there been anything on the state (feds?) investigating the police and sheriff depts? Maybe that has to wait for the trial to end?

The Department of Justice still has an active file going on the police there if I’m not mistaken, that’s not a generalization, they are absurdly corrupt – unrelated to the football – so I would imagine there’s going to be someone looking into it.

drunk texts from teenagers

For the record those weren’t while they were drunk.

People in Chicago really like the Cubs. 500 people were murdered in Chicago last year. Baseball is to blame.

Keep fucking that chicken, bro.

Nice bullshit and lazy comment. Drunk teenage criminals, the basis for all your logic arguements now. Whatever.

No I just find the “small town folk are the best folk” thing just as lazy as people from urban areas shitting on rednecks. Here’s the thing: most people, are inherently decent people, regardless of where they’re from or what kind of town they live in. There are sacks of shit everywhere too but they’re pretty heavily outnumbered, and the issue is whether a certain place enables sacks of shits to keep on keeping on with the sack of shittery.

People in Chicago really like the Cubs. 500 people were murdered in Chicago last year. Baseball is to blame.

No one would ever draw that conclusion, and anyone who did would be endlessly ridiculed. Yet we have no problem doing that with Stubenville?

If Dale Sveum told each murderer that he would take care of it and make it go away then yeah I think it’s fair to bring baseball into the issue. Why wouldn’t it be?

No one would ever draw that conclusion, and anyone who did would be endlessly ridiculed. Yet we have no problem doing that with Stubenville?

Teen’s texts tell of cover-up in Steubenville rape trial
Expert testifies in Steubenville trial
March 15, 2013 12:11 am

Keith Srakocic/Associated Press
From left, defense lawyer Adam Nemann looks over evidence with defendant Trent Mays, 17, center, sitting next to defendant Malik Richmond, 17, during the trial in Steubenville on Thursday.

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By Torsten Ove / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio — A teen accused of raping a drunk school girl after an alcohol-fueled party last summer in Steubenville sent and received a flood of text messages in the aftermath of the incident, initially saying he had sex with the girl but later denying it as friends questioned what happened.
Profanity-laced texts to and from Trent Mays, 17, one of two Steubenville High School football players charged with raping the girl on Aug. 11, were described Thursday in detail by a forensics expert from the Ohio crime lab testifying for the prosecution in the trial of Trent and his friend, Malik Richmond, 17.
JoAnn Gibb, the expert, said she examined Trent’s phone and 16 others seized from the partygoers on Aug. 14. The flurry of texts between Aug. 12 and Aug. 14 show Trent initially unconcerned about what happened but later asking his friends to cover up for him by lying.
He initially told another teen that he had sex with the girl but later texted a different sexual scenario.
On Aug. 12, one teen asked Trent in a text if he had sex with the girl.
He texted back: “Yep.”
He later told another friend that the girl came to the party, brought food and had sex. “She knew what’s up.”
The other teen texted: “You’re a felon.”
“Not really,” Trent replied.
Trent said in another text that, “I shoulda raped now that everybody thinks I did” but that the girl “wasn’t awake enough.” He also texted a female friend, who was grilling him about the incident, that the girl had been passed out or asleep at the home of Mark Cole, but woke up at 3 a.m. He said they started making out but denied he had sex with her.
At least one photo circulated among the teens and described by witnesses shows what they said appears to be semen on the girl, and several text messages refer to semen.
As the story of that night spread and the girl, her father and other teens began making accusations, Trent asked friends who had been with him to lie for him by saying he had helped the girl to bed and didn’t have sexual relations with her, according to the text messages.
“Just say she came to your house and passed out,” he texted Mark Cole.
Another boy promised to help out in that effort, texting, “I’ll just say they were just trying to take care of her.”
Trent also indicated in another series of texts that police would likely look at his texts in their investigation and urged others to delete messages from their phones. In addition, he implicated the Steubenville High School football coach, Reno Saccoccia, saying he had talked to the coach about the incident and felt it would be “taken care of.”
“He was joking about it so I’m not worried,” he texted.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/region/teens-texts-tell-of-rape-cover-up-in-steubenville-trial-679402/#ixzz2NckuH0Vi

BOY GOSH THOSE SALT OF THE EARTH FOLK HELP EACH OTHER OUT, and look at the football coach not thinking there’s any way they can get out of it!

It’s not a national story if the videos and pictures don’t make it onto social media, I know that much.

One of the primary talking points about this story is the role of social media. It paints a sad portrait of our youth culture to have the events of that night broadcast all over social media as they were taking place.

Also you’re infuriated because of the way PSU was painted and nothing else. That’s fine, just own it.

This is far lazier than PSU. Key people within PSU at the very least ignored information that allowed a predator to continue raping boys. Drawing culture parallels from that is lazy, but doable. The media is painting an entire town based on the size of its football stadium. Completely absurd.

Not sure if I am okay with people calling town shitholes b/c of unemployment and such. Granted, I’d be from one of these “shitholes”

Yeah that’s fair, and I mean it’s not their fault that the industries collapsed and the jobs left. I’ve lived in and have family from lots of places that are littered with abandoned mills and factories and they are awfully depressing places to live.

Steubenville will benefit from the Marcellus formations in the area in the next few years, but the smaller towns in the rust belt haven’t had the chance to bounce back like Cleveland and Pittsburgh have because they simply aren’t big enough to command other economic avenues.

Well of course, outside of the two thousand person Ivy Of The MidWest that resides in their town.

Serious question: if Stubenville’s football team sucked, is this a national story?

Wow. There’s not much to manufacture here. An online group made it viral and got the attention of the world. There is no narrative, just exposure

I can’t imagine what its like for those townspeople

I think this is understood, and smart people understand that the entire town isn’t a cesspool. But it is obvious even to people living there the culture is centered around football and played a part in it all.