Bracketology: There Really Are Only Eight Bubble Teams … Until the Upsets Happen in Conference Tournaments
Indiana grabbed a top slot with the win over Michigan State on the road. It would probably take multiple losses for them to drop out of the top line now (and even then, a 29-5 is probably good enough). Gonzaga has continued to win, and if it wins out will get a #1 seed. The ACC winner down the stretch will be another top seed, and the runner-up will be in contention with Florida, the Big East winner, and the Big Ten runner-up for the final slot.
At the other end of the spectrum, the bubble is always broad and vague, but probably not nearly as big as people think. I think Missouri played into a safe area with the win over Florida.
St. Mary’s is probably safe (and should be, after beating BYU). Ole Miss played its way onto the bubble with the loss to South Carolina.
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For me, the true bubble line now falls after Oklahoma on the #11 seed line. That would mean I have a pretty large group – eight in and eight out – with little to distinguish them. Over the next three weeks, some will add big wins to play off of it, and others will drop off with losses.
Of course, there really are not eight slots open. We know there will be some creep as wacky things happen in conference tournaments. It does not look like the mid-majors will have as many at-large candidates this year. Where are the most likely candidates for an auto bid thief to shrink the bubble as we head toward March?
- Sun Belt: Middle Tennessee should get an at-large IF they win out in the regular season but lose in the tourney.
- Ohio Valley: Belmont is still holding in the top thirty of the RPI, and if someone else wins the tournament could get an at-large.
- Conference USA: I think Memphis could survive not winning the tournament and still get an at-large, Southern Miss probably needs to win it or beat Memphis on the road. Anyone else winning would reduce a slot if Memphis still gets in.
- Missouri Valley Conference: Wichita State and Creighton will be in the field. Indiana State has played their way out of at-large consideration despite some great wins. If they or Illinois State win the tournament, a bubble team goes bye bye.
- Pac-12 Conference: The Pac-12 is loaded with bubble teams, and Arizona has proven vulnerable at times. I could see a team making a run here with a bunch of teams that are about equal.
- West Coast Conference: Gonzaga or St. Mary’s are going to be heavy favorites to win, but if anyone else grabs it, that knocks the bubble down.
- Atlantic 10 Conference: Plenty of teams in the mix here means a wild tournament where someone (Xavier? Dayton? Charlotte?) could pull an upset and get to the final.
- Southeastern Conference: Kentucky’s woes and Ole Miss losing at South Carolina have this league on the ropes. If anyone can upset Florida, it opens the possibility of a team grabbing a bid that might have been out, like Tennessee, Alabama, Arkansas or Texas A&M.
I would project about three of those slots to fall, so when looking at the last teams in, keep that in mind. Here are my projections of what I think the committee will do, while also trying to project forward based on the remaining schedules and potential outcomes.
#1 Seeds: Indiana*, Gonzaga*, Miami*, Duke (*denotes assigned auto bid slot)
#2 Seeds: Michigan, Florida*, Syracuse*, Michigan State
#3 Seeds: Louisville, Kansas*, Arizona*, Georgetown
#4 Seeds: New Mexico*, Wisconsin, Marquette, Kansas State
#5 Seeds: Colorado State, Ohio State, Butler*, Oklahoma State
#6 Seeds: Wichita State*, Pittsburgh, NC State, Virginia Commonwealth
#7 Seeds: Illinois, Missouri, Notre Dame, St. Louis
#8 Seeds: Minnesota, St. Mary’s, Creighton, San Diego State
#9 Seeds: Oregon, UNLV, Cincinnati, Memphis*
#10 Seeds: Middle Tennessee*, UCLA, Colorado, North Carolina
#11 Seeds: Oklahoma, Belmont*, La Salle, California
#12 Seeds: Mississippi, Iowa State, Temple vs. Virginia, Iowa vs. Arizona State
#13 Seeds: Akron*, Louisiana Tech*, Bucknell*, Detroit*
#14 Seeds: Stephen F. Austin*, Florida Gulf Coast*, South Dakota State*, Davidson*
#15 Seeds: Stony Brook*, Long Beach*, Iona*, Harvard*
#16 Seeds: Weber State*, Bryant*, Northeastern* vs. Southern*, UNC-Asheville* vs. UNC-Central*
First Eight Teams Out: Kentucky, Southern Miss, Alabama, Baylor, Villanova, Maryland, Charlotte, Arkansas

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February 22nd, 2013 at 1:18 PM
How many top 25 teams has Gonzaga even played?
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Gonzaga, while the schedule is light in the loafers would win the Big Ten this year.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Huge game for Butler tonight.
Vlad – one, Butler, and they lost
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:24 PM
They lost at home to the only Big Ten team they played.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:24 PM
Pure hypothetical (and probably homer): If the Hawkeyes somehow knock off the Hoosiers in Bloomington, that would punch their ticket, right? Kinda like how Mizzou did vs UF. Otherwise it’s 4 out of 5 and a couple wins in Chicago to make it certain.
I do not envy any of the 1 seeds that meet any of the 4 seeds in this lineup.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
For sure. Not a chance in hell it happens though.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
I know you and Lunardi both have them there but it baffles me how Duke is getting a one seed without winning the ACC tourney.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
/boobs
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:26 PM
And Miami lost to Florida Gulf Coast…I guess Miami wouldn’t win the TAAC or Sun Belt or whatever.
One game means dick. Gonzaga has proven themselves to be one of, if not the, nation’s best.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:26 PM
I know OSU sucks. But they’ll be a 4 seed.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:27 PM
I’m starting to hope the Gophers don’t make the Dance. That’ll be sure to punch Tubby’s ticket out of town
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Zags would be fortunate to go .500 in the B10 given the beatdown they suffered at hands of my Illini, at home no less. And sadly Illinois is middling this year at best, but when the 3s are falling you better recognize!
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
How can you even COMPARE Iowa and Mizzou?
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
State of the Union for CBB in 2012-13.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
The best part of this story is the photo of the drugs with the badge in front of them.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
If the ACC gets two #1 seeds instead of the Big 10, there should be outrage.
And Gonzaga is really good. I don’t know if I’d give them a #1 seed but they’d be right there.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
If I need to answer this then it’s a waste of my time and yours.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:32 PM
OUTRAGE!!!
/does it really matter if you’re a No. 1 or a No. 2 seed at this point?
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:32 PM
No, you do.
One is talented and will make the dance.
One is a worthless turd running around throwing Minnesota at everyone as a signature win.
/fin
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
I’m shocked that Indiana is above .500 given that they too lost to Illinois.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
I said it before the season started—NO ONE wants to be the #2 seed in St. Louis University region. They are a meat grinder.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
You just don’t wanna end up in the Mid West region with Indiana.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
At this point? No. Considering two #2 seeds were knocked out in the first round last year? Yes.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM
You’ve got it all figured out then. I don’t see why you needed to pose the question having answered it before asking it.
Moving right along.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM
BIG TIN BASSHYBAWL IS SO GOODER DEN EBERYONE.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Absolutely.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:36 PM
It just seems to me that difference between the 1 seeds and the 4 seeds isn’t all that much, is it? I don’t get the outcry for who gets the 4th 1 seed as opposed to the 1st 2 seed. I get why coaches would bitch, as they might have contract incentives, but those in the media who always bitch about this stuff seem to do so just to get a rise out of people.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:38 PM
Could affect the region you play in and the courts you play on/travel to in your first two games. That’s the reasoning is all.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Makes sense.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:41 PM
All I know is that if UVA gets in and is a 12 seed, we’re a great 12/5 upset pick.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
/boobs
i like the girl in front best. foreground
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Lisk hates Butler. If they win tonight they move into top 10 territory
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:46 PM
I just get the whole being the overall number 1 seed thing. Its not like that gets you a bye or anything. You dont get the weakest #2 seed, its just a meaningless title.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Also holy shit do the tournament sites suck this year. Auburn Hills, Dayton, Lexington, San Jose, Austin, Salt Lake City? Woof.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 PM
The one on the far right is really pushing that imaginary box down.
/Marcel Marceau’d
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:49 PM
I’m most intrigued by the one on the far right who’s facing the crowd, not the camera. Those thighs…yeah buddy
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Gonzaga would win the Big 10? They’d finish behind Indiana, Michigan St., Michigan, Ohio St. at the very least. Get the fuck out of here.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Ha, i was about to say the same thing
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Dayton is a drug traffickers dream: 75 and 70 connect, Tom Raper RV’s a couple miles down the road.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Butler’s odds for winning the tourney are very favorable. It would be wise to put some money down on them.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:51 PM
austin and SLC seem nice mole. food, music in one, outdoors in the other
/never been to either
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Keep telling yourself that.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Austin is kind of badass. Can’t speak for any others though.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Until Gonzaga get out of the first weekend for a change I’m going to just keep safely assuming they’re as fraudy as they’ve ever been.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I fucking hate Detroit sometimes.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Vlad – I heard 30 days till bankruptcy. Is this what the people think or is it posturing?
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Yeah. Ohio State.
Gonzaga is a very good team, but go ahead hate by suggesting an incredibly middle of the road OSU team is better than them.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:54 PM
The more I look at the photo with this post, the less impressed I am with the four ladies whose faces you can see. Doesn’t feel up to snuff for Oregon eye candy.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Isnt Dayton a permanent host of the “First Four” now. Sad to say Ive never been to any of these cities.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Very nice compared to the NCAA hockey regionals.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:55 PM
I honestly thought Trey was trolling B10 peeps last week by say the SEC is better. Now I’m not so sure.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Austin was as advertised. Very cool town with great bars, good food and killer weather in the winter. I’m going to SLC next week for work. Looking forward to being in the land of Mormon, especially because our itinerary involves a good bit of drinking apparently.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Just seems like a weird collection of cities. Also no Charlotte games at all this year, that’s some bullshit.
One side of the Elite Eight plays at either Staples Center or Verizon Center, the other half plays at Lucas Oil or Cowboys Stadium.
Anyone want to guess which half of those will be the better and more watchable games?
/stop playing in football stadiums you assholes
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Had the Zags been knocked out by complete shit teams, I’d agree. But the last three years they’d lost to #1 seed Cuse, #3 Seed BYU and #2 Seed OSU.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:58 PM
husker maybe the JV cheerleader squad is hoops. regardless, i would allow most of them to apply for citizenship to my penis country
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:58 PM
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Definitely the best team since 2009…which was the last time they made it to the Sweet 16.
I believe they’ve only failed to make the Sweet 16 once when seeded to do so. Perhaps twice.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:59 PM
The D got the contract for 3 years.
February 22nd, 2013 at 1:59 PM
The South Regional is at JerryWorld in Arlington. Dont they know that Texas is not in the South.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM
What? Butler by far.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Well they’re going to Charlotte’s big brother for the Final 4 this year. No sense is sending teams to a JV town I suppose.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Que?
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I know it won’t happen, but playing these games in Arenas as opposed to big Domes would be so much better. The Final 4 in Louisville’s new arena would be insane. It would be so loud.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Ease up there. Lets step away from the RPI fellating Big Ten. Iowa played one of the WORST out of conference schedules in basketball. The rank? 324th hardest in the nation.
Mizzou? 93rd…Nevermind the fact that they played a portion of the season without one of their best players…AND crushed the precious Big Ten nectar known as Illinois
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:03 PM
I think when the Big East shakes out Louisville is going to be a 2 and Syracuse, Georgetown, and Marquette will be battling for the 3 line. Unless Cuse of Gtown sweeps against each other Louisville looks like they are going to win the regular season title. Just look at their remaining sked.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
If you think Gonzaga has been the best team
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
I haven’t watched one minute of Gonzaga basketball this season, but I have OSU hoops and that is not a great basketball team.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:05 PM
I guess picking up on context clues wasn’t part of your sick brahtastic frat hazing.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Huh? The 2012 Zags are the best Gonzaga team since 2009. This isn’t even an arguable point, and I don’t know what the hell Butler has to do with it.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Oh, I was thinking you were saying Gonzaga was the best tourney team since 2009. My bad
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:08 PM
they should play the games on aircraft carriers
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:08 PM
/Ill be shocked if UNC survives the first weekend this year.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM
It’s amazing how UNC strategically times their bad seasons around the years there are no Charlotte/Greensboro/Raleigh sites.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:20 PM
The Zags are the Boise State of basketball.
/ Or is it the Northern Illinois of basketball?
// No, Northern Illinois is the Northern Illinois of basketball
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
you can’t bait me with NIU bashing. but slight the Vandals and you’ll pull back a stump
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Atlantic Sun homey.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:24 PM
I like the way you think.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Jason, why don’t you say the “last eight teams out?” Everyone is in, so to speak. Then you start eliminating teams. Saying they are the “first out” makes it sound as if they are terrible. You’re not the only person to do this.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:39 PM
…that are out at sea, while planes are taking off and landing and Maverick is buzzing the tower.
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
I hope you’re right. C-USA tournament is in Tulsa this year.
/livin’ on Tulsa time’d
February 22nd, 2013 at 2:49 PM
As to comparing Missouri to Iowa, I prefer to look at Sagarin rather than RPI. Yes, Missouri has a better resume at this point. But you are comparing 17 v. 33 in the Sagarin predictor rankings.
And if you think I am a shill for the B10, then you are sadly mistaken. Most years, they are vastly over rated. This year, however, I have not seen a deeper league. That being said, it would not shock me if the league shit the bed when it comes to tournament time (I have come to expect as much).
February 22nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Then I’ll shoot my model girlfriend through the bathroom door “accidentally.”
February 22nd, 2013 at 3:26 PM
Minnesota is fast playing it’s way out of March Madness. Eight seed is a major stretch – game of the year for them Tuesday when Indy rolls into town. Tubby’s in trouble if/when they lose this game and continue their slide.