I think Larry Allen gets overlooked not just b/c of his position but because he didnt join the Cowboys until the tail end of their run. Played for a lot of mediocre teams in his career.

/booms

Game Day Bucket boom > WWOS boom

Marshall Faulk said tonight that he was the best defensive player he ever faced.

Except for the entire 2001 Patriots defense?

/booms

Norv Turner will get more credit for his time in San Diego as time moves on

Thanks, I needed a laugh.

You’re going to go with Drew Bledsoe? That’s your downside? A 14 year vet who started 193 games and made a superbowl? The KC Chiefs or Cleveland Browns would throw parades if they could find a QB that gave them that.

In the aspect of throwing interceptions, he is the downside because he never really improved that part of his game. In regards to the Chiefs and Browns throwing a parade you know who else would have? The Buffalo Bills of the early 21st century.

Because Andrew Luck wasn’t drafted for his legs.

none of those QB’s were drafted for their legs.

Take away his running ability and you still have a 6’5″ 235lbs QB that threw for over 4,000 yards as a rookie. He would still have the skill set to become Manning/Brady/Fouts. Take away Wilson’s legs and what does project? What successful 5’10″ pocket passer would you like to compare him to?

just as you want to use Luck’s college career as proof that he won’t be throwing this large amount of picks throughout his career, I’ll use Wilson’s college career as proof that he has exhibited an uncanny ability to get his throws pass the offensive line at a rate not expected of someone his size. Similar to what Drew Brees has done throughout his career.

I’m not trying to argue who is better now or who will be better in the future. I’m simply saying that GMs would take Luck because he is the lower risk move.

Obviously before the draft, but in the here and now comparative period you’re using, the risk of having Wilson has decreased dramatically.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/article-BryanBroaddus/LA-Story-Part-5-Recalling-Allen%E2%80%99s-Bench-Press-Feat/02c1480e-98c8-437e-8663-6e8005d03581

/also, Nate Newton lost some serious weight!

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Congratulations to the Class of 2013, especially @criscarter80, @WarrenSapp and Bill Parcells. All all-timers.

That one just confused me. And Larry Allen might be the best G in the NFL for the last 25 years, but a guard can get overlooked. An LT was becoming glamorous at the time Ogden was around, at least recognized as #1-overall pick worthy type of player. Boselli was another one before the bicep (?) injury. Sapp to me just didn’t have enough dominant years, that I remember (again, didn’t see him enough to analyze the nuances).

Hall of Fame 2013 Selections: Warren Sapp and Cris Carter Both Go In Along With Larry Allen, Johnathan Ogden, and Bill Parcells

Is Sapp just a popular SEO-friendly name? Or am I underrating his career? I would have always thought Ogden >>> Sapp in their career, but everyone is talking about Sapp first and Ogden as an afterthought.

So did Drew Bledsoe. That’s the funny thing about projections, they work pretty much how you want them to.

You’re going to go with Drew Bledsoe? That’s your downside? A 14 year vet who started 193 games and made a superbowl? The KC Chiefs or Cleveland Browns would throw parades if they could find a QB that gave them that.

Why would I project on what Wilson will be like once his legs regress and not do the same for Luck when Wilson has less than 30 more rushes than Luck.

Because Andrew Luck wasn’t drafted for his legs. Take away his running ability and you still have a 6’5″ 235lbs QB that threw for over 4,000 yards as a rookie. He would still have the skill set to become Manning/Brady/Fouts. Take away Wilson’s legs and what does project? What successful 5’10″ pocket passer would you like to compare him to?

I’m not trying to argue who is better now or who will be better in the future. I’m simply saying that GMs would take Luck because he is the lower risk move.

Sure he is complete garbage now but from ’06-’10 he was in that discussion best QB not named Manning or Brady. Not that he belonged there with that noodle arm but he was in the discussion.

Norv Turner will get more credit for his time in San Diego as time moves on

Whoa, that list died a sudden and painful death after #4. I demand an explanation.

Sure he is complete garbage now but from ’06-’10 he was in that discussion best QB not named Manning or Brady. Not that he belonged there with that noodle arm but he was in the discussion.

You know who else turned the ball over a lot as a rookie? Peyton Manning.

So did Drew Bledsoe. That’s the funny thing about projections, they work pretty much how you want them to. So, in that vein, I’ll project RGIII making a full recovery from his surgery. Why would I project Wilson out to be Doug Flutie, when he started his rookie year in the NFL, and didn’t have to go to the CFL to play? Why would I project on what Wilson will be like once his legs regress and not do the same for Luck when Wilson has less than 30 more rushes than Luck. What I would project is their performance this year, and based on that, Luck is far from a slam dunk over Wilson.

o/u on comments from this point forward on his decision to keep playing rg3? 10