Mario Chalmers Thinks He’s a Top 10 Point Guard – Middle Part, Not Lower Part
Mario Chalmers of the Miami Heat told Chris Tomasson of Fox Sports this, when asked about his place on the NBA’s list of best point guards:
“I’d say top 10. I’m not in the lower part (of the top 10), I’m in the middle part. I just have confidence in myself. I think I can compete with the best of them.’’
I’m a Mario Chalmers fan. After he hit this shot to send the 2008 NCAA title game against Memphis into overtime, I jumped off the sofa and celebrated as if I were wearing a Kansas jersey. The Jawhawks won (and covered) in overtime, and I thought Chalmers would be a nice NBA player.
Playing with LeBron and Wade and Bosh, he’s got a ring, a Finals loss, but modest stats. He’s a dogged defender, but only shoots 41 percent for his career from the field, and 36 percent from three. How does one quantify a Top 10 point guard? Here’s my attempt:
1) Chris Paul
2) Russell Westbrook
3) Kyrie Irving
4) Rajon Rondo
5) Tony Parker
6) Deron Williams
7) Stephen Curry
8 ) Jrue Holiday
[UPDATE: Obviously, Derrick Rose would be on this list if he were healthy. He's not. Why is Rondo on the list? He just played half a season.]
I know, I know – Irving is too high, Rondo could be 1st or 2nd, and Deron Williams is too low. You disagree, I get it.
But I’d say there’s no doubt those are – in some order – the eight best point guards in the NBA. Let’s say you swap Holiday and Chalmers. Is Chalmers going to put up 19-9 and shoot 46 percent? Doubtful.
The next batch are difficult to rank – Mike Conley, Ty Lawson, Brandon Jennings, Ricky Rubio. Can Chalmers crack that group? I might take him over Conley and Jennings, but not Lawson and Rubio.
Another problem – LeBron is the de-facto point guard with the Heat – he leads them with 7.1 assists per game, which is more than several other very good point guards (Lawson, rookie Damian Lillard, Goran Dragic, Jeremy Lin, Jennings).
Bottom line: Mario Chalmers – very nice player, but no, he’s not a Top 10 point guard. Top 15, yes.

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January 31st, 2013 at 5:06 PM
Irving is not too high, but Westbrook most certainly is.
Other guys I’d take over Chalmers:
Wall
Lowry
Walker
Rose
Dragic
Vazquez
Bledsoe
Lillard
Collison
Not very difficult to stand on the perimeter and shoot open threes while Lebron handles the pg responsibilities
January 31st, 2013 at 5:09 PM
Calderon!
January 31st, 2013 at 5:10 PM
I won $250 that night. Thanks Mario.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:10 PM
8)
that never gets old.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:10 PM
for the 2nd time, Dumars is going to have a ridiculous amount of money. hopefully he doesn’t spend it all this time just because he can. please, no josh smith.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:10 PM
John Wall is notably absent.
John Wall is so good that the Wizards sometimes beat other teams. The WIZARDS.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:12 PM
You guys ever been friends with an elite athlete? College or pro? Those guys always, always think they are better than everybody else.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:13 PM
cracks me up when that happens here.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:15 PM
nope
January 31st, 2013 at 5:15 PM
Chalmers is getting his jersey retired in a couple weeks.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:17 PM
during undergrad, I tutored UT’s 2nd string TE. does that count?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:17 PM
You guys ever been friends with an elite athlete? College or pro? Those guys always, always think they are better than everybody else.
Not friends, but I took a lot of classes my Freshman and Sophomore years with them. Delusions of Grandeur would accurately describe most of them.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:19 PM
John Wall is not very good.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:22 PM
College friend’s brother was recruited to SC, went elsewhere because of grade issues. Played 5-10 years as an NFL backup. He was a bit of a talent squanderer, and probably thought too little of his abilities, but most of the football players I had classes with prove the delusion point
January 31st, 2013 at 5:23 PM
What does that make Chalmers? Horrendous?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:23 PM
Hell, wouldn’t Brandon Jennings rank higher than Chalmers too? His shooting percentages are a little lower but he has the excuse of other teams making an effort to defend him
January 31st, 2013 at 5:24 PM
That delusions of grandeur would describe most people who are top level anything in any field. Like there’s no one better than me at not figuring out what to do with my life before I turn 30
January 31st, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Kyle Lowry?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:26 PM
The 5-hour energy commercial with that epic douchebag is really terrible.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:26 PM
Jarrett Jack is better than Chalmers.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:26 PM
All those names would be about equal if you take out Rubio and replace with Dragic. But hey RUBIO! HIGHLIGHT REEL! 5/5 guy
January 31st, 2013 at 5:27 PM
as a point guard? no thanks. as a pure offensive player? yes.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:28 PM
You haven’t been watching enough basketball. Conley Jr. > Lawson > Rubio (thus far) > Chalmers > Jennings. Seriously, Mike Conley is very good.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:28 PM
That delusions of grandeur would describe most people who are top level anything in any field.
The junior back up guard who was taking an Introduction to Sports Theory class was nowhere near the top of his field. If they are at the top of their field, it isn’t delusional to believe they are great.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:29 PM
I’d take Nash and Kidd over some of these guys
January 31st, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Per 36 minutes stats this year:
Wall- 19.4 pts 43% FG 9 assts 3.5 rebs 1.3 blks 1.1 stls
Chalmers- 10.7 pts 41% FG 4.7 assts 3.1 rebs 0.2 blocks 2.2 stls
January 31st, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Yeah, the more you look at these names, plus consider how easy his job is next to LBJ and wade, he is not near the top 15
January 31st, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Westbrook is a SG masquerading as a PG. My top 5 would be Paul, Kyrie, Rondo, Parker, and Curry. Deron Williams can GTFO with his bullshit
January 31st, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Maybe top 20. Maybe. That depends on how tweeners like Jack and Andre Miller are classified. George Hill is better. Jeff Teague? Nash still? Calderon?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Kidd can’t play point anymore. His fit is as a guy who comes off the bench just to shoot three pointers.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Looks like you’ve only got a top 4 there. Sorry, had to.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Also, JMac..john wall isn’t very good? I’ve been one to criticize his offensive game but since he came back the Wizards have been remarkably better. He has stepped up his game and is playing like he was expected to coming out of Kentucky
January 31st, 2013 at 5:32 PM
LOL. Wall has played what, 10 games?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:32 PM
/craps on your doorstep
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
If Chalmers was any good, he’d actually have the ball in his hands more often. LeBron, Wade, and Norris Cole are all better playing PG than Chalmers on that team.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Where is Jeremy Lin?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Yes, but aside from shooting he is better in every conceivable facet of the game. To be fair, Chalmers is also better at knowing where to stand while a 6’8″ guy plays pg
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
Jennings averages more assists per 36 and turnovers are a wash…why is Chalmers a better PG?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
someone just visited this site via this search
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=ms-android-att-us&tbo=d&source=android-launcher-widget&v=133247963&spell=1&q=is%20hulk%20hogan%20fucking%20his%20daughter&sa=X&ei=t_AKUemsCaOyiQLqwYHoDw&ved=0CCkQvwUoAA&biw=320&bih=508
copy and paste that into a URL or read between the %
January 31st, 2013 at 5:34 PM
A.P., I just had to return the favor to someone since my boyhood hero got ousted today. Say it isn’t so, Dan. Say it isn’t so.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:35 PM
hang on now. Norris Cole sucks.
John Wall will probably be good eventually, but his career eFG is around 42%. That is horrendous.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:35 PM
I didn’t say much better. Plus I just think Jennings is extremely overrated along with fellow ballhog Monta Ellis
January 31st, 2013 at 5:36 PM
You should put an update in that post apologizing to that guy for not delivering the answers he seeks
January 31st, 2013 at 5:37 PM
that is fantastic, Jmac
January 31st, 2013 at 5:38 PM
I doubt enough people even think about him (hence why he wouldn’t appear on a list of PGs better than Mario Chalmers, which he is) for this to be true
January 31st, 2013 at 5:39 PM
10 games: enough to prove you’re not very good, not enough to prove you are good.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Sounds like golfercraig.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:39 PM
so there is program that tells you where everyone that comes to the site via a search engine, and what they are searching for? that is crazy, I honestly had no idea.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:40 PM
He’s played 11 games. He’s also 4 years younger. Last year they had a similar disparity in the same categories. 30/30 GMs would choose Wall over Chalmers.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Westbrook is too low
January 31st, 2013 at 5:41 PM
Wall has been hurt, but you can’t count that against his skill level.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:43 PM
Been around a long, long time. Even the free/basic Blogger sites have that.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:43 PM
I have been correlating PG stats and I have been asking myself “Who the fuck is Greivis Vasquez?”
January 31st, 2013 at 5:45 PM
never watched much maryland basketball, eh?
January 31st, 2013 at 5:46 PM
if PG was all about scoring, then I’d agree. Ideally, he should be playing the 2.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:47 PM
Ideally, he should stop shooting so much and realize he’s playing with one of the five best scorers in basketball history
January 31st, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Google Analytics will include a short bio that mentions their favorite aging porn star as well.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Thinking PGs who score aren’t somehow “true point guards” is the new “The spread won’t work in the NFL” of old-timey talking points that make my head hurt
January 31st, 2013 at 5:53 PM
You can score a lot but still make sure you have good assist and steal numbers
January 31st, 2013 at 5:53 PM
huh, I had no clue. I better get tin foil hat 2.0 and look into this. I bet looking at my search history would be an entertaining read.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:54 PM
Especially when they are averaging 8.4 assists per game while not fitting into that box.
/Westbrook
January 31st, 2013 at 5:54 PM
My liver does not allow for the consumption of college ball.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:55 PM
yes
January 31st, 2013 at 5:55 PM
New phones scare the shit out of me when it comes to Google Analytics and similar services. Friend got a new phone that will set alarms for him for when he needs to get up so he has time to shower and which route to take…without even asking. Also will pick up on buildings he usually turns his phone off or on silent for, and will do it automatically for him.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:59 PM
Fuckin lock down.
January 31st, 2013 at 5:59 PM
Google is experimenting (or at least applied for a patent) for targeted marketing.
So if it notices you are in 90 degree weather…your next ad will be from Coke. At a concert? Next ad for a similar bands new album.
It’s going to be awkward when your wife borrows your phone, and a 25% off coupon pops up for a local strip club.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:01 PM
I was recruited by the game cocks.
Im a huge dick.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:02 PM
I can think off 10 retired point guards who could unretire and be better than Chalmers.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Pretty sure this is setting us down the path to creating HAL9000
January 31st, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Wife: Honey, what’s this?!
Husband: This isn’t where I parked my car.
/Husband walks away
January 31st, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Upon searching the post for something else I saw Brandon Jennings had been mentioned…I shall now attach the stone of shame
January 31st, 2013 at 6:14 PM
Westbrook’s numbers over the past few season look a little like Gary Payton’s from about 15 years ago. I guess the Glove wasn’t a true point guard.
just to add to the “better than Chalmers” list – Ray Felton was actually having a pretty good year until he got hurt.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Austin Rivers?
January 31st, 2013 at 6:26 PM
never watched much maryland basketball, eh?
I was at a NCAA tourney game about 11-12 years ago in Syracuse that had Maryland vs. Kentucky. Leaving the Carrier Dome, I saw a fan that had a sign that said “Juan Dixon your mouth”. Funniest sign I have ever seen live at a game.
January 31st, 2013 at 6:30 PM
I can think off 10 retired point guards who could unretire and be better than Chalmers.
Interesting…
Iverson
Marbury
Magic
Francis
Isaiah
Tim Hardaway
Penny Hardaway
Payton
Mark Price
Mayor Kevin Johnson
At LEAST ten
January 31st, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Does the google search thread posted not only search the headline and story, but also the comments? F*****g from the comments is highlighted