John Hollinger’s First Few Moves in Memphis Are Blasted by Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski
The Memphis Grizzlies have a new owner, and Robert Pera’s goal is quite clear: Dump salaries, make more money. Winning? Seems to be secondary at this point. In the last two weeks, the Grizzlies – who hired ESPN’s John Hollinger to be their stat guy, recently – have made a couple cost-cutting trades:
1) Trading Marreese Speights, Wayne Ellington and Josh Selby, plus a future first-round draft pick (will be one year between 2015-2019) to the Cavs for forward Jon Leuer. Speights and Ellington were valuable bench players for the Grizzlies; Selby less so.
2) Trading leading scorer Rudy Gay and reserve Hamed Haddadi to Toronto for Ed Davis and Jose Calderon and a 2013 2nd round draft pick
3) Traded Calderon to Detroit for Austin Daye and Tayshaun Prince.
Yikes. Talk about taking a blowtorch to the 4th seed in the West.
Presumably Prince will start for Gay (who is shooting 40 percent), the offense will go through Randolph and Gasol, and Daye (whom I loved at Gonzaga, but hasn’t done much in Detroit) will hopefully provide pop off the bench along with Ed Davis, the former UNC shot-blocker who started slow in Toronto but has played much better this year.
Did Memphis need to do something to shed salary, given what they were paying Conley, Gay and the two bigs? Yes. Did they need to do it now? That’s up for debate. If you read about the trade on ESPN.com, keep in mind Hollinger worked there and was very well-liked, so perhaps everyone analyzing the deals really did like them. One guy who questioned the deal and how the Grizzlies handled it? Yahoo’s Adrian Wojnarowski.
The Grizzlies issued a statement on the trade late Wednesday, and embarrassingly had “general manager Chris Wallace” throw out the obligatory organizational quotes on the deal. Only, Wallace had nothing to do with the trade. Nothing. He isn’t making calls to teams. He isn’t consulted by the new regime. He’s waiting until they agree on the terms of his inevitable parting. So, Pera and new CEO Jason Levien take an unpopular trade and assign it to Wallace in the news release.
Levien is making these deals based largely on the recommendations of John Hollinger, a statistician who worked for a cable sports company. The San Antonio Spurs once used him as a consultant and regretfully took his advice to sign a free agent named Jackie Butler. It was such a disaster, the Spurs had to attach Luis Scola to a trade to get Butler out of town.
Come on, you know you laughed at “cable sports company.” Reminder: ESPN tried to hire Wojnarowski in late 2012.
We wrote about the Butler/Hollinger moment a few years ago (he didn’t comment when the News-Express asked him about it in 2007). If you’re a Grizzlies fan, you can find out what Hollinger once thought of Daye (liked him), Davis (hated him based on stats), and Prince’s last contract (liked it) with a quick google.
Interesting thing to monitor here: The Grizzlies had a memorable playoff run in 2011, then lost Shane Battier. They were a fashionable pick to make another run in 2012, but lost in the first round in seven games to the Clippers, then OJ Mayo skipped town. The Spurs/Thunder/Clippers are clearly the class of the West this year, and the Grizzlies are going to be hard-pressed to hold off the Warriors/Nuggets for the 4th spot and home court advantage in the first round.
So yes, you’re looking at three straight seasons of regression. With teams like the Jazz and Rockets and Blazers and Timberwolves on the rise with young players, will we see another slide in 2013-2014?

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January 31st, 2013 at 1:18 PM
im not debating his journalistic chops, but good god, there are few people as successful at coming off like a HUGE asshole than this prick.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:19 PM
So Hollinger isn’t the GM or the owner, but these are HIS moves?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:19 PM
That snowmobile dude died.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Woj is like a slightly calmer version of Dave Zirin. Just walking around searching for something to be outraged about.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:19 PM
I really hope this isn’t true. Recruiting is so fucking shady.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Damn. That’s terrible.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Haberstroh gave it a B, noted the conflict with Hollinger’s connection, and said it’s a risk for Memphis.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Woj is gruff, but Zirin is downright whiny
January 31st, 2013 at 1:21 PM
January 31st, 2013 at 1:21 PM
I don’t think 2011 counts as a season of regression since it is the first season in your sample. And since you seem to measure regression entirely by playoff series results, I don’t think this year counts either since the playoffs haven’t happened yet.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Not an NBA guy, but this does seem like a terrible trade.
raises hand
January 31st, 2013 at 1:22 PM
c&p that into your blog mole
January 31st, 2013 at 1:24 PM
That isn’t clear. They clearly have the best reg season records to date. Means little
January 31st, 2013 at 1:25 PM
I kinda like this move for the Grizzlies. Prince will give them some perimeter defense. Addition by subtraction with Gay. This means Conley/Randolph will have to be the crunch time go to guys. Shedding the Gay contract is good for them going forward.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:25 PM
If there is one writer that can make me sympathetic to Lebron James, it has to be Wojnarowski. King James is an asshole, but reading Woj you’d think Lebron deserves to be mentioned in same breath as Milosevic and Hitler.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:26 PM
I think this was to get under the tax line, which means they receive money from the tax payers.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
you couldnt stop milosevic on a fast break yo.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Woj is a Kobe shill
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
And Dave Zirin makes me reconsider my liberal viewpoint. What a prick.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
His only road to redemption is signing in Cleveland or Detroit in 2014.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
I think this is a decent deal, albeit with some risk. Gay kinda sucks anyway.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Money saving trades are generally terrible, but I understand them.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:27 PM
kinda had to to get under the tax.
I really liked this deal from a basketball and money standpoint. No idea what Toronto is smoking.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:28 PM
zirin is horrible, but the WORST guy on the nation has to be ari berman. it’d be nice to roast marshmallows over his immolating body i sacrificed to gods i don’t believe exist.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Had my doubts about new CBA, but it does seem to work. Teams are doing everything they can to get under the cap. Hopefully, you’ll get a bit more parity.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Does Woj still think that LeBron is the devil? During the LeBron’s free agency Woj was spitting hot fire…
January 31st, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Jews on parade up in this bitch.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:31 PM
It makes sense in the NBA since if you don’t pay the tax you :1) save that money 2) Get more money 3) tax payers lose certain exceptions to sign free agents. 4) I believe this trade gave the Grizz a trade exception, which can be a useful asset.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Woj is great as long as he’s bitching about an athlete you already disliked.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:32 PM
That would be nice in theory, but the NBA needs the star teams. They always have needed them. Tough to have star teams and parity.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Unless you are the Lakers
January 31st, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Sales people walking around the office on their headsets schmoozing crack me up. Shit never gets old.
“How are the kids?” [insert fake laughter here] “How’s the wife?” [insert fake laughter here]
January 31st, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Nothing puts me off like overly friendly sales staff. Just act like a goddamn human being. HI! WELCOME TO MACY’S!!!! HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY!!!!!
Why the fuck are you smiling for no reason??
January 31st, 2013 at 1:40 PM
So Ron Jeremy’s next, I assume. Any odds on No. 3?
/ Lindsay Lohan always a good bet
January 31st, 2013 at 1:41 PM
And so HuskerDawg merges into Der Kaiser as TBL Atlanta consolidates …
January 31st, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Ray Lewis on Francesa yesterday: “They’re gonna bring in Russell to push Sanchez? The only thing he’s pushing is a fork to his mouth”
I nominate JaCarcass to become reality, by heart attack or overdose
January 31st, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Ray Lucas**** whoops
January 31st, 2013 at 1:42 PM
It sure didn’t take long for that narrative change. Damn thats good.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Really hope these guys are wrong about Adams and Kamara, but I’m pretty sure they’re not.
/sigh
January 31st, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Ray Lucas is too busy shoving pain pills down his throat and blaming everyone else from his problems.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:44 PM
I think the reason Tito eventually failed as a dictator is that the Jackson 5 took up too much of his valuable time.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:44 PM
woj is jewish? can’t he just be polish?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM
I couldn’t help myself. Lots of hate for the jewish sports writing sect in these parts it seems.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Death by Sizzurp
January 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM
I guessed he was a Polish jew. No clue if it were true.
/rhyme time
January 31st, 2013 at 1:45 PM
not a lot of OSU on there…GET YOUR ASS ALL IN, MEYER.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Fuck that. Little surprised none of em picked OSU for Dontre Wilson. And I’ll take a 50% shot at Vonn Bell.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:46 PM
The Third Reich Double Whammy.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
He used an entire article about the Rudy Gay trade to tease Lebron that ‘SUPER TEAMS ARE DEAD’
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Wow, an mrejr sighting. I thought you were too cool for this place?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
This site is awesome. You can go from discussing basketball trades, to basketball writers, to basketball writer’s religion, to hitler comparison, to snowmobile death, to friendly people……
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Memphis had likely reach its peak with the Gay/Gasol/Randolph combo. Their next move was to either dump Gay or Randolph, and I assume that Gay has much more value.
They will miss having a perimeter shot-maker in the playoffs, for sure, but don’t think they’ve necessarily “regressed” given that this could be their second-straight season of improving their winning %. I actually think Prince is a good addition for them. Fits their physical style, and their perimeter defense is solid. Has Tayshaun lost a step?
Ed Davis was a solid, cheap pick up. He and Arthur is solid frontcourt depth. Cushions the blow of losing Speights. Still have to fill the Ellington hole as a shooter.
What’s the word on Tony Wroten? Figured he could become an x-factor for them off the pine this year.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Love it.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Don’t they already have most of their class wrapped up? Pretty sure Michigan only has a couple spots left that they could use.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:48 PM
/ Steam rises from EIC’s ears as he scribbles “my Warriors, my Warriors” over and over in notebook
January 31st, 2013 at 1:49 PM
I don’t know which site you’re talking about…
January 31st, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Didn’t Randy Quaid drive off the deep end in the past couple of years?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:49 PM
And porn. Don’t forget PORN.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:50 PM
youre right…i just queued up the irrational urban-meyer fueled buckeye fan expectations. we here in the red horde expect him to be the favorite for every one of those guys, even tho it’d be a violation.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:50 PM
/wrong – placement
//facepalm
January 31st, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Holding a spot for Vonn Bell. And maybe either Clark and Wilson or a OL. 2 more most likely.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Trading Z-Bo would be throwing in the towel
Solid, not cheap
January 31st, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Fuck that. Couple of spots left means you offer 10 kids, accept 7 verbals and then have Mortal Kombat to determine who gets the shaft.
/Nick Saban
January 31st, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I love this trade for the Grizz. Think it makes them a better team with a better chance to contend. Not really sure what games you’re watching that would make you think otherwise, TBL.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:53 PM
FIGJAM is -8 thru 10 holes in Phoenix…
January 31st, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Austin Daye is really bad and Tayshaun has been washed up for years. Not sure why in the world any team would want those two.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:53 PM
I will say I love how UGA is handling recruiting this year. They are, dare I say it, being Saban-esque in their late-in-the-game offers.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:54 PM
well that seems like a goodly sum of birdies.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:55 PM
I was so pissed off about missing the thread discussing haggard looking pornstars. By the time I got there, everyone moved on.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Detroit won the trade. I don’t think that can be disputed. Mediocre for Mem and Tor IMO
January 31st, 2013 at 1:56 PM
So, they are probably right, but you have reason to hope. They’re wrong on Carl Lawson, for example. Most of the national guys talk to one or two folks and lack a lot of the details that you need to make the best guesstimate.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:56 PM
I also love how Richt is basically trolling Saban by visiting Dee Liner this week. Fucking hilarious.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Good thing it’s not in California, or he’d have 60% fewer of them.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:57 PM
So can we talk about this yet, or do we have to wait for the DVR crowd?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Fuck that. Lock those bastards up when they’re on campus for football camps the summer before their SR. year.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Where’s he going? How do you know?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Part of me would love to go see this tournament in person. Most of me wants to avoid that many people in one place.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:58 PM
This hasn’t exactly worked out well for Mack Brown, but that could be due to the fact that he’s incompetent.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Seriously, do the Dawgs have a shot?
January 31st, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Speaking of trolling.
January 31st, 2013 at 1:59 PM
saw this license plate this morning at the gas station:
I H8 OSU…with a Michigan license plate frame
/I live in Huntington Beach, CA
January 31st, 2013 at 1:59 PM
I wouldn’t think so, but St. Richt is headed to Muscle Shoals.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:01 PM
epic blast. Can ESPN now just be called TCSC?
January 31st, 2013 at 2:01 PM
/round of applause
January 31st, 2013 at 2:01 PM
BOO BOO BOO.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:02 PM
oops…wrong lyric. whatever, fuck lynard skynard.
/team gravity and mechanical failures
January 31st, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Golf Channel showing Dubai instead. Those shitty desert courses are always good for a laugh
January 31st, 2013 at 2:03 PM
He’s going to Auburn. Still formally committed, classy kid, good family… and he’s coming to Auburn for his last official weekend visit and bringing the whole family with him. Lawson has been a tough one for a lot of people to figure out, because he and his family have not talked much to reporters (though I think his dad called Auburn’s new defensive coordinator a “genius” this week)… so people have been running with what others have been saying. Lawson has worked with a trainer who played football at UT, who tells anyone who wants to talk that Lawson is going to UT. Lawson’s coach apparently has some weird vendetta against Rodney Garner, so he’ll tell reporters that Lawson is going to Clemson or UT, based on the time of day he is called. But neither of these guys actually know.
My very strong hunch is that he’s going to Auburn. The fact he never decommitted keeps getting overlooked.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:03 PM
/I live in Huntington Beach, CA
Ty are you a native or work has you out there, or you just up and move out there? I loved that area.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Completely off topic JMac, but I’ve never seen Rick Reilly get crucified like this before. Awesome
January 31st, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Please tell me it was on a Ford F-250 with a set of truck nutz.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:05 PM
No posts on Harbaugh turning down network interviews either
January 31st, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Its awesome. Crowds are a bitch but its awesome.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:05 PM
ive always laughed at florida courses…”hey maybe if we put a bunch of man-made lakes, undulations and other bullsiht everyhwere people won’t notice they’re basically playing a flat driving range with some holes cut in.”
January 31st, 2013 at 2:06 PM
More likely a beater with a surf rack to show they fit in
January 31st, 2013 at 2:07 PM
copperhead at innisbrook is an exception to that. but doral, bay hill, pga national, tpc sawgrass? mcdonalds golf in a fleming’s take out box.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Highest attended event. The one in CT is #2, yet nobody plays in it
January 31st, 2013 at 2:08 PM
/waits for craig to take the bait
January 31st, 2013 at 2:08 PM
I am sure Saban is laughing. Or is that just while he is watching SEC title game film?
January 31st, 2013 at 2:09 PM
no shit PGA pros who can play the best courses in the world wouldn’t want to play two cookie cutter TPC stops.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Please tell me it was on a Ford F-250 with a set of truck nutz.
Toyota Rav4
live in Huntington Beach, CA
Ty are you a native or work has you out there, or you just up and move out there? I loved that area.
Born in Santa Monica, been here since I was 4, can’t leave, I’ve had some offers but never really considered leaving. Wife is from here too, so…
January 31st, 2013 at 2:13 PM
He’s laughing at how small he is.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:14 PM
NICK saban? laughing?
i think yall have the wrong guy.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:14 PM
That’s great, thanks for the response.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:16 PM
Saban laughing at himself for being small. Fascinating
Most realistic Saban thought process: “Aite, I’m laughing, aite, becuase Richt thinks he’s got a shot, aite, but I informed the kid he’ll miss the first two games of every season to suspension, aite” (waves hands)
January 31st, 2013 at 2:17 PM
No, he’s ours!
January 31st, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Is he black now? Ease up on that Axe, brah.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Add some waitresses in Daisy Dukes, and you’ve got Top Golf.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:19 PM
He’s watching highlights of the James Franklin groveling apology press conference.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Not sure how the CT is but golf is secondary at Scottsdale. Maybe not even that high up the list.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:22 PM
How can it be that you attended UNT and cannot spell Lynyrd Skynyrd correctly?
/ That’s right, Texas not in The South
January 31st, 2013 at 2:22 PM
It was actually a double-feature of that and the entire 2012 USC season in review.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Not only does he wear Axe, apparently he huffs it.
January 31st, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Am I the only one who didn’t know Tayshaun was still in the league?
January 31st, 2013 at 2:30 PM
I love you too, Mullet
January 31st, 2013 at 3:55 PM
Yeah, don’t get me started…
January 31st, 2013 at 5:09 PM
You post this while I’m at the movies???
I’ve made my comments the last two days. Still feel the same.
Go Grizz.
/still dancing