Kansas City Chiefs’ and the No. 1 Draft Pick in 2013: Take a Quarterback First Overall, or Wait?
The Kansas City Chiefs are one year too late to the quarterback party with the first overall pick. A year after the two prospects who were rated highly enough to go first overall were available, the consensus this year is that, well, there is no consensus. Many think that few quarterbacks if any are truly worth a first round pick. Mel Kiper didn’t have any in the Top 20 before last week.
Let’s say that there isn’t a quarterback truly worth the first overall pick, whatever that may mean. Should the Chiefs still take one, and not worry that Peyton Manning or Andrew Luck is not in the draft?
Here’s the problem when there is not a strong quarterback seen as a must take player: the other solutions don’t seem to be that much better. There have been 18 drafts since 1978 were a quarterback did not go first overall, most recently 2008 with Jake Long being selected by Miami. Teams going for a position other than quarterback with the first overall pick have been very hit or miss.
Bruce Smith, Orlando Pace, and Earl Campbell were hits. Courtney Brown, Ki-Jana Carter, Steve Emtmann, and Aundray Bruce were major misses. Jake Long and Mario Williams have both been slightly above average 1st overall picks, and so I guess the question for Kansas City is this – do they pass on taking a clear need at quarterback for the average return at first overall with a non-quarterback?
If you put those 18 first overall picks up against the first quarterback taken, and compare their careers, yes, the first overalls prevail. It’s not as lopsided as you would think considering one was taken with the first selection, while the other group averaged being selected at pick number 17. I would rate that 11 were “victories” for the first overall pick, five for the first QB taken, and two were draws due to both being bad.
However, even in those quarterback deficient drafts, if a team had selected the “right” quarterback among the top three in the draft, they would have soundly outperformed the first overall picks. Brett Favre was in a draft where Russell Maryland went first overall and no quarterback went in the top 15. Boomer Esiason was the first quarterback taken in 1984, when Irving Fryar went first. Neil Lomax was the second quarterback taken when George Rogers was first overall. Chad Pennington (Courtney Brown), Matt Ryan (Jake Long), Steve McNair (KiJana Carter), Jim McMahon (Kenneth Sims), and Phil Simms (Tom Cousineau) were all better options in hindsight.
Andy Reid was hired in Kansas City because of his expertise in developing and training quarterbacks. New GM John Dorsey came from Green Bay, where they valued quarterbacks and drafted Aaron Rodgers when he slipped in the draft. So prove that you are better than average at identifying and developing the position. History would say that, even in these weaker quarterback classes, at least one of the quarterbacks drafted among the top three will turn out to be a good starter. I would say that in 13 of the 18 classes, at least one would have been worthy of a high pick. While it may be more difficult to identify that guy this year, the odds are better than average that one of these quarterbacks will be a good starter.
I think that guy is Geno Smith, who seems like a good risk to be at least a decent quarterback. If the Chiefs personnel evaluators disagree, then that’s fine. If they take a different position while sitting at the first overall pick with the one glaring need being quarterback, the thought process better be either:
a) there is a Hall of Fame caliber can’t miss talent at another position, where we don’t want to look back and say we passed; or
b) there is no starting quarterback in this class who will start for 8+ years in this league.
Kansas City has gone the second longest of any franchise without using a first round pick on a quarterback. Kansas City has not had a quarterback drafted by the franchise actually win a game in Kansas City since Todd Blackledge. If that does not change this year, there will be plenty of early pressure on the new regime. My guess is that despite the talk about other positions and players like Luke Joeckel, Kansas City becomes the 11th team in the last 13 years to take a quarterback first overall.

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January 28th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
There is no QB available who is worth the overall No. 1 pick.
Chiefs should pick up Alex Smith, oe maybe even take a chance on Saints backup Chase Daniel, trade the No. 1 for a whole mess o’ picks, and rebuild where they need it the most.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:06 PM
I don’t think the problem is that Manning and Luck aren’t in this draft, the problem is that neither McNabb or Kolb are either. It’s just a revolting group.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:08 PM
trade the pick?
does anyone else want it?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:09 PM
The chief problem I saw with Geno this season is he has trouble throwing in strong winds. When he played in Lubbock, it seemed like Mother Nature knocked down every thing he threw to the sideline or deep.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:09 PM
Can they get out of Cassel’s deal this year relatively clean?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Oh goodness.
Luckily for the Chefs, it’s never windy at Arrowhead.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Holy shit.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:12 PM
agreed. i remember when matt barkley was the golden child, then he was coached by lane.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:13 PM
So the team that has a history of drafting awful quarterbacks should overreach by at least twenty spots to take a quarterback, because why not? Okay.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Have yet to find a QB with more starts and zero wins than Brodie Croyle with his 0-10 mark
Roll Tide
January 28th, 2013 at 2:14 PM
agreed. none of these guys should even be going top 10.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:16 PM
Ryan Nassib is supposedly the third best QB in this class. A terrible group.
But the Chiefs being the Chiefs, they’ll take a QB for sure.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Someone brought that up during the regular season, and I found it unbelievable, yet it’s true.
Ricky Stanzi, turn in your Cap’n ‘Murica card.
/ Was not aware the Chiefs drafted Staubach in 1964
January 28th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Chiefs have always loved Niner QBs. Joe Montana, Steve Bono, Elvis Grbac.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:21 PM
The chief problem I saw with Geno this season is he has trouble throwing in strong winds. When he played in Lubbock, it seemed like Mother Nature knocked down every thing he threw to the sideline or deep.
Results across all of pro football history would say that virtually every quarterback struggles throwing in strong winds. The impact on YPA and completions above 15 MPH is dramatic.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:22 PM
Ryan Nassib is supposedly the third best QB in this class. A terrible group.
But the Chiefs being the Chiefs, they’ll take a QB for sure.
Ryan Nassib reminded me exactly of Ryan Fitzpatrick when I saw him play against Missouri.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Essiason and Favre weren’t first year starters, either. If I were to take Geno Smith I sure as hell would not want him automatically being the starter merely because I took him first overall.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:24 PM
So the team that has a history of drafting awful quarterbacks should overreach by at least twenty spots to take a quarterback, because why not? Okay.
Chiefs don’t have a history of drafting awful quarterbacks, really. They haven’t invested a first round pick at it.
In your opinion, will any of the quarterbacks in this draft class start in the league for more than 5 years?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Given the way Alex Smallhands prospered under Harbaugh, I think he’d do pretty well under Reid.
True. I should have de-emphasized and just said “winds.” His passes seem to flutter at anything above a mild breeze.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:25 PM
I would honestly be surprised.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
What would Foles cost KC?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Think that at this point, it’s peanut butter jelly time.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
SF took a QB first because they thought they had to. It didn’t work out. If I’m KC I do my due diligence and then take the best player in the draft unless they have a stud at that position.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Lisk, you think Chase Daniel could turn into a starter if he leaves New Orleans. He seems like a Brees clone the little I’ve seen in preseason action. Not saying he’s Brees-like, but I see similarities.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Chiefs don’t have a history of drafting awful quarterbacks, really.
and even if they did, their GMs have changed since the 60s
/where’s the chart?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:28 PM
it’s peanut butter jelly time.
it was here a half hour ago
/where you at?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
I agree with this. The pressure to land a QB is so immense. That leads teams to look for reasons to draft people, not look for reasons why they should pass.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Is it just me or is this draft class as a whole weak?
/it will probably have 10 hall of famers in it
January 28th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
They did need a QB. A larger part might have been that the #1 pick at the time was untradeable. Now, you might actually have a team move up to get it. May not be bad for KC
January 28th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Speaking of which, was Buddy Nix GMing back in the ’60s? He’s like, what, 110 years old?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:30 PM
according to who? just curious, because I would say Tyler Wilson, Barkley and Smith are all better. it seems like Nassib gets a lot of the “he didn’t have a whole lot around him” treatment, but at the same time, he played in the Big East, so they could almost cancel each other out.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Start like Alex Smith start or start like Matt Ryan start? Just having a dude start and be good enough to not lose his job isn’t what the No. 1 overall pick should be, though. If you don’t think you can win titles with the QB, you don’t take him No. 1 overall.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Otis, I am talking dancing bananas. Because anyone who thinks Chase Daniels is a good option to pull out of suckdom is crazy. That, and he picks his nose (rooting around like a pig after truffles) on national tv.
/still angry because he caused Pelini’s lesser known “distinct schematic advantage moment”
January 28th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
SF took a QB first because they thought they had to. It didn’t work out. If I’m KC I do my due diligence and then take the best player in the draft unless they have a stud at that position.
Well, they took the wrong one. I don’t think it is hindsight bias to say that Aaron Rodgers was a legitimate first overall candidate. What he did in the loss against an incredible USC should have been all the tape they needed.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
isn’t murray old enough? seems like he’d garontee himself a No. 1 pick. then again, he knows the chiefs would take him
January 28th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Some serious talent in there, though. Barkevious Mingo, Luke Joeckel, Jarvis Jones, Chance Warmack, Kevin Minter … I would, however, suggest the Chiefs NOT take an LSU defensive lineman, given their recent draft history.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
I’d offer MIA a 6th for Matt Moore.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Great point. The best thing about the new salary deal for rookies is that teams can unload the pick if they want to. The No. 1 pick should be coveted, not something that makes you cringe.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Otis, I am talking dancing bananas.
believe me, i know
January 28th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
I think Barkley or Smith will be there when round 2 starts so why wouldn’t KC take a franchise tackle and then a QB in round 2? Reaching for Smith would be an enormous mistake. Guy is great when there’s zero pressure, but once he’s under fire he shrinks. That’s a big red flag to me especially when he’s going to take a ton of hits in his first couple years.
That is the one major reason these SC QB’s haven’t worked out. It’s easy standing back there and having 7 seconds to throw every time behind an All America offensive line and then they get drafted by a bad team with an iffy line and are flustered by the pressure.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Start like Alex Smith start or start like Matt Ryan start? Just having a dude start and be good enough to not lose his job isn’t what the No. 1 overall pick should be, though. If you don’t think you can win titles with the QB, you don’t take him No. 1 overall.
Very few guys start more than 5 years who are complete bums. Joey Harrington is the exception, and that took a freak year in Miami, and Michael Vick getting popped for the dog ring to push him into the lineup in Atlanta.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I will seriously cry if Jarvis goes to the Jets, as multiple mocks have predicted. He’s a plug-in-play OLB in the 3-4, though.
He came back to wreck shop in the SEC and win a natty.
/ALL FUCKING IN
January 28th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
David Garrard could also be an option for KC
January 28th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Not a good sign when you’re taking a guy at No. 1 and his coach is telling you not to take him.
Of course, the Niners were being run by the idiot members of the York family at the time. Jed seems to have straightened it out.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
So if this is true then wouldn’t the better option to be give Reid one year to see what he can get out of Cassel and address other areas with the number 1 pick?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Rodgers could have flamed out starting from day one. Green Bay was in a position with QB that the Chiefs would kill their girlfriend to have.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:37 PM
It looks like 2007 (Quinn, Russell, etc), 1996 (Banks) and 1980 (Wilson and Malone, the two sucky Marks) are the only 3 in the last 35 years where no QB started more than 5 seasons as the main starter. 1994 and 2002 were bad, and only one guy lingered on a different team long enough (Dilfer and Harrington).
January 28th, 2013 at 2:38 PM
The best thing about the new salary deal for rookies is that teams can unload the pick if they want to.
but also it doesn’t hurt you money wise. it still may set you back plenty roster-wise to ‘waste’ a 1st round pick, but at least the money doesn;t add injury to insult
January 28th, 2013 at 2:38 PM
This is a very sound idea. But then I’m a big fan of building a team from the offensive line up, and only drafting a QB once you’ve built the line.
/ David Carr concurs
January 28th, 2013 at 2:38 PM
I would agree with you that all of those are better, but some folks had it lined up Smith, then Barkley, then Nassib. But Nassib supposedly didn’t look great at the Senior Bowl, so Wilson might move up across the board.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Someone is going to draft Tyler Wilson in the 2nd or 3rd round and be very happy.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Tyler Bray
January 28th, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Rodgers could have flamed out starting from day one. Green Bay was in a position with QB that the Chiefs would kill their girlfriend to have
Would he have had the exact career? No, but I disagree vehemently with this. Rodgers is a better QB than Alex Smith by miles. He would have been better than Alex Smith in SF. Yeah, some guys can have a few better seasons, but stars prevail. Vinny Testaverde played on the least talented teams ever–he managed to still be good later in his career when he got to play with talent.
Being drafted by Houston didn’t ruin David Carr. He held the ball too long and wasn’t good. It just meant his career looked different than Tony Eason, a similar QB who got to play with better players early.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:40 PM
I agree, but I bet someone takes Wilson late first round.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Exactly. People see Rodgers now and think he was can’t miss. Had he dealt with the pressure of playing from day one with a shit team I highly doubt he’s as successful as he has been sitting for a few years.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
I don’t disagree with any of that. All I’m saying is Geno Smith is a shitload closer to the David Carr end of the spectrum than the Aaron Rodgers end.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
this is my thinking as well. Joeckel seems like a can’t miss prospect on the OL, and it’s not like Smith is head and shoulders above the field, so if he is taken by someone else in the 1st round, someone else of equal talent will be around in the 2nd.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
I would pay good money to be a fly on the wall when he’s interviewed by teams. Dude is the perfect example of a million dollar body with a 10 cent brain.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:41 PM
I would agree with you that all of those are better, but some folks had it lined up Smith, then Barkley, then Nassib. But Nassib supposedly didn’t look great at the Senior Bowl, so Wilson might move up across the board.
Smith and Wilson would be my top two.
Nassib, as a mid round pick and backup with chance to compete.
Glennon, no thanks, scouts dream for arm strength, but nothing else (pocket presence, etc).
January 28th, 2013 at 2:42 PM
/waves at Bills fans about to watch their team draft him in the first
January 28th, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Hey now, one of those was a sucky Marc.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Last Bama QB to start and win a game? Jeff Rutledge in 1987.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Speaking of that 1980 draft, Lisk, this one looks a lot like that. Outside of Monk, the best players by far to come out of that first round were Munoz, Clark and Brock (all linemen).
/ And with the No. 2 overall selection, the New Jets take … Johnny “Lam” Jones
// “Jones was a world class sprinter, he could beat any coverage, but had trouble catching the football” (Wiki)
/// The jokes write themselves
January 28th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
I’m not sure, it’s been 5 years since Glenn Dorsey, and it is the Chefs we are talking about here.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
I would love the Bills to take Wilson 8th overall. I sure as hell dont want to recreate the 2012 Syracuse Orange.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Definitely Coop’d
January 28th, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Dorsey was considered can’t-miss. Tyson Jackson was a major reach.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Just another Jets picked wasted on defense.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:46 PM
holy shit.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Aundray Bruce. There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. That guy had all the freak athletic ability in the world, apparently, but no IQ to match.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:47 PM
Didn’t McElroy pull out a 10-6 squeaker for the Jets?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:47 PM
I’m not sure, it’s been 5 years since Glenn Dorsey, and it is the Chefs we are talking about here.
Tyson Jackson on line 2
January 28th, 2013 at 2:48 PM
Don’t know why there’s all this despair about the QB crop anyway. JaCarcass announced last week he’s ready to give his all for the NFL now and is weighing in at a svelter 300-plus.
/ Really, he did announce this
January 28th, 2013 at 2:48 PM
The Redskins have a horrible recent history of drafting QBs. They should not draft RG3.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:48 PM
i see your aundray bruce and raise you a zo spellman
January 28th, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Picking nits here, but he didnt start the game.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Yeah I remember when RGIII went into the draft not even close to the top of anyone’s board like Smith will. Jesus.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:49 PM
I’ve read a little bit of praise for Zac Dysert. I’ve read that he’s the most complete QB coming out.
KC is in a tight spot for sure. I don’t think Alex Smith is the answer, but Reid did get a little something out of Kolb for a while.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
I see your Spellman and raise you one Erxleben.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
So if this is true then wouldn’t the better option to be give Reid one year to see what he can get out of Cassel and address other areas with the number 1 pick?
I have your IP Address. I will hunt you down and physically harm you. Cassel is garbage. I mean, he was and should have been a backup. He actually demonstrated it in New England. Does anyone remember when they were about to bench him in 2008? (Pioli apparently forgot). I don’t care who they get, but Cassel as starter is un-freaking-tenable.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
ah, I forgot about Jackson. I can’t really hate on Dorsey, I was more just bringing up the LSU factor. dude was a total beast in college, the defensive scheme change seemed to be what screwed him.
Tyson Jackson, holy balls…..
January 28th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
The other reason taking a QB at 1 would be a mistake IMO is that look at the draft. Once you get past the Jets at 9 (who probably aren’t taking a QB with all their issues) are there any teams that are going to grab a QB?
Maybe Houston? Maybe Denver to learn under Manning? (Don’t know how they feel about Osweiler). That is it. Taking a marginal QB prospect at 1 when you are guaranteed to get the same caliber marginal QB in round 2 is crazy.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Robert Gallery was a can’t miss OT at one time, too.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Gracias
January 28th, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Then a couple of years later he realized he was blocking for JaCarcass and gave up on life.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Similar logic. The current braintrust wasn’t employed when the franchise made the horrible decisions, so why would that figure into decision-making process?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:54 PM
how many positions have never been the No. 1 pick?
tight end, CB, safety. OL can be one category or we can go position by position, so C, G
DT?
January 28th, 2013 at 2:54 PM
P and K don’t count
January 28th, 2013 at 2:54 PM
/ Brings back memories of the Coop-Mullet skirmish of Aught-12.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:57 PM
fullback. obviously i could look it up but testing the memory is fun
January 28th, 2013 at 2:58 PM
I dont remember this at all actually. Who was the 3rd string guy, Kevin O’Connell?
The thing everyone forgets about the ’08 Patriots is how easy their schedule was. They lost to pretty much every good team they played (they did beat Arizona in a blizzard).
January 28th, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Break out the mock draft Lisk.
January 28th, 2013 at 2:59 PM
haha I get that Lisk but to me, I’d rather address another position of need with a more “sure thing” then take a big leap and draft one of those guys 1. You can trade for QBs like Smith, or sign a guy like Flynn and still draft a solid guy with your 1st pick
January 28th, 2013 at 3:01 PM
Aundray Bruce. There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. That guy had all the freak athletic ability in the world, apparently, but no IQ to match.
And the Falcons tried to keep him tied up in a little box of responsibility instead of just cuttin’ him loose. He did better in Oakland with essentially no responsibility other than “find the ball”.
Humblebrag …
He made his career in essentially one game vs GA Tech in ’87. Three INTs including a pic 6. Funny thing is, the QB at Tech at the time (Rick Strom) is now a friend of mine. You just mention Audray Bruce and he goes flush.
January 28th, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Cool Rick? Is that you?
January 28th, 2013 at 3:38 PM
COMMENTER MOCK DRAFT!!!!!1!!1111!
January 28th, 2013 at 3:44 PM
We still dont know that Matt Flynn can’t be a good NFL starter. All we know is that he’s not as good as Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson.
January 28th, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I was at that game. Wow, I’m old. IIRC, Auburn scored late to take the lead, then Bruce had the pick 6 at the end.
January 29th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Tyler Wilson will end up being the #1 pick if Kansas City keeps it.
January 29th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Aaron Rodgers was a legitimate first overall candidate. What he did in the loss against an incredible USC should have been all the tape they needed.
I’m looking at the NCAA record books and that game apparently never happened. So that’s probably why the scouts missed it.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:01 AM
As a junior, Rodgers led Cal to a 10–1 record and top-five ranking at the end of the regular season, with their only loss coming in a closely contested game at No. 1 USC, in which the final score was 17–23. In that game, Rodgers set a school record for consecutive completed passes with 26 and tied an NCAA record with 23 consecutive passes completed in one game. He set a Cal single game record for passing completion percentage of 85.3.
January 30th, 2013 at 5:05 AM
I get the joke, but had to post it from Wiki…because thats shredding