Wizards get: Gasol. Team him with Wall and Beal and at least get some excitement in the capital and try and make a lower seed
playoff run in 2013-14.

The Wizards have actually played rather well since the return of Wall. Their plan this entire time has been to get horses who can run with Wall. Gasol slows them down. Gasol isn’t a good enough primary low post option for the Wizards to make this trade. The Knicks wouldn’t make this trade, because they’re going to need the bonafide second scoring option that STAT is going to be when healthy in order to make that deep run. None of the guys this trade scenario has ticketed to the Knicks provide that option.

LAL get: Amar’e

This is where I should have stopped.

Why would the Lakers take a worse player on a worse contract that has an extra year on it?

Knicks get: Okafur and Singleton. Provides NY with a backup center who will defend and rebound. Singleton won’t score much, but
can defend.

Knicks would do this deal in a heartbeat to save the $4 million this year, plus millions more in luxury tax over the next 3 years. Anything (and it wouldn’t be much) Okafur and Singleton do on the court is a bonus.

Wizards get: Gasol. Team him with Wall and Beal and at least get some excitement in the capital and try and make a lower seed
playoff run in 2013-14.

Washington may do this, but I doubt Gasol’s presence on offense offsets the down grade on defense enough to get into playoffs next year. Also takes them over the cap and within luxury tax range. This hurts their chances of adding pieces in FA.

The Lakers could then try and swing a deal with the Hawks for Josh Smith. Lakers could run Nash, Kobe, Smith, Artest, Amare out there.

That lineup may give up 130+ on a nightly basis. Playing small and at the SSOL pace is not optimal with grey beards like Nash, Kobe, Artest and Amar’e (and his broken knees).

LAL get: Amar’e (team him with Dantoni/Nash)

Knicks get: Okafur and Singleton. Provides NY with a backup center who
will defend and rebound. Singleton won’t score much, but
can defend.

Wizards get: Gasol. Team him with Wall and Beal and at least get some
excitement in the capital and try and make a lower seed
playoff run in 2013-14.

The Lakers could then try and swing a deal with the Hawks for Josh Smith. Lakers could run Nash, Kobe, Smith, Artest, Amare out there.

The Knicks would releave themselves on Amar’e who’s just not working and strenthen themselves in the East. Perhaps Felton, Kid, Brewer at the 3?, Melo, Chandelr. 2nd unit would have guys like Okafur, JR Smith, Shump, Novak, Prigi Smalls.

It went from Parker being third option during the game, to first option in crunch time.

Also, both Duncan and Ginobili were assisted on 45% of their shots in crunch time, vs. 27% for Parker (unsurprisingly)

Not to create more work for you, but I wonder how that difference compares to the rest of the league as far as perimeter players shots to low post players.

Oh well, good talk and thanks for doing the leg work and getting the info.

/Lakers may in fact be dumb enough.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aj2l5tl

Overall
Duncan – 16 FGA
Parker – 14 FGA
Ginobili – 16 FGA

Crunch time per 48

Duncan – 21
Parker – 28
Ginobili – 20

It went from Parker being third option during the game, to first option in crunch time.

Also, both Duncan and Ginobili were assisted on 45% of their shots in crunch time, vs. 27% for Parker (unsurprisingly)

There are very few centers who can be alpha dogs, simply because they do require someone else to get them the ball.

I am afraid most of my evidence in the case of Duncan would be of the anecdotal variety. I have neither the ability nor the time to see if what my eyes are telling me is reflected in the facts.

Over the last decade a lot of the Spurs offense in crunch time has ran through Duncan on the block; Manu/TP in a pick & roll with Duncan or played off of double teams of Duncan. This has understandable been shifting to more of Parker creating for himself lately though. I cannot quantitatively back that up, just what I have seen.

Oh I know… I was just saying that because it always seemed like cursed and I would get the most sucked in to the Kobe-LeBron wars.

It was like half the state of Ohio populated this board, and then you had the EIC who would present a new slanted story every day. Or when Kobe would have a beast game, he’d have to do something like note the number of shots he took or his percentage in the game. “Kobe hit a game winner, finished with a triple double with 36 points (on 25 shots) 10 rebounds and 12 assists……..”

Even if KG was the best at late-game shots (let’s say 50%-40% for someone else), his rebounding ability probably puts win percentage higher when he didn’t shoot. Who knows though…

Also played with Pierce, who has a premier skill set for that role

I get what your saying, though, I’d be curious to see the usage rates.

You’re now beyond my data-mining ability. There are very few centers who can be alpha dogs, simply because they do require someone else to get them the ball.

If KG played point forward would he be more of an alpha? Probably not, but I don’t have the stats to make whatever case you are trying to show.

I do think it’s much more of an offense for a PG to be unable to take big shots (Rondo) vs. a center, simply because what it allows an opposing team to do.

Even if KG was the best at late-game shots (let’s say 50%-40% for someone else), his rebounding ability probably puts win percentage higher when he didn’t shoot. Who knows though…

I’m trying not to let my fanboy show too much, Darrell, but that play still gives me chills.

/Hoya Saxa

That moment was fanboy worthy. I still remember seeing it on Sportscenter when that meant something. That was a statement!

where as KG is much more comfortable deferring to others.

He is, because he isn’t that caliber of scorer. He’s probably the best defensive PF ever though

/considers TD a C

I don’t want to make it seem like I’m reading a ton in Duncan’s numbers… I just think it’s fair to say that guys who can create their own shots will have many more late FGAs than guys who require passes, no matter what their level of dominance earlier in the game.

I get what your saying, though, I’d be curious to see the usage rates. Also, I wonder if there is a way to factor in FT and/or the expected drop off in FGA for a big who has to rely on others to get him the ball in those instances.

I still think the difference in Kobe/KG hate levels is that Kobe wants to be the alpha dog always (even at times its a determent to the team), where as KG is much more comfortable deferring to others.

And I say that as a card carrying Kobe hater.

trust me, I was here.

Oh I know… I was just saying that because it always seemed like cursed and I would get the most sucked in to the Kobe-LeBron wars.