it isn’t even worth debating.

Reed v Lewis is absolutely worthy of debate. As despicable as I think Lewis is, I can’t knock him as a player. IMO they’re the top defensive players of the last 15 years, with a slight edge to Reed

I highly doubt that. Reed is the best player of the lot, and he isn’t a perpetrator of Lewis’ horseshit theatrics, which are as un-Patriot as possible

If it makes you better to make that comparison to support your argument, run with it because it isn’t even worth debating. However, I’m positive if you ask former DPOY’s Ed Reed and Terell Suggs that question, they’d each roll with Ray Ray, just as I’ve heard Ngati state it. I will agree with you on one point. Based on the Patriots defensive performances since Spygate, Ray Lewis is most definitely “un Patriot like”

As it happened, Reed had time to elude the errant leg. Also, Brady was hit low and late one play after throwing a pass, nothing came of it. It’s all so subjective

Agreed there was a risk of injury.

Darrel, the Ridley shot wasn’t a penalty. Not what I was talking about. Also, you lied!

“Well, Cracker jack agreed with me this morning, so that forces me to recuse myself from commenting on this post.”

what can i say; you inspire me.

Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse. Read anything Belichick has said about Reed over the years. Loves the man. And Reed has always been pretty classy. Stop obsessing about certain fan bases and have a real conversation for once.

read anything that any coach who faces the Ravens say about Ray Lewis. Read what the opposing QB’s have to say. Watch the end of the game and check out who was the last person Brady congragulated, and hugged it out with before he walked off the field. Internet fans may hate on Ray Ray, but the football establishment adore the dude.

Billy and Tommy don’t respect Reed anymore or any less than they do Ray Ray and Suggs.

I highly doubt that. Reed is the best player of the lot, and he isn’t a perpetrator of Lewis’ horseshit theatrics, which are as un-Patriot as possible

It happens to everyone on here at least once. Darrel is that good.

Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse. Read anything Belichick has said about Reed over the years. Loves the man. And Reed has always been pretty classy. Stop obsessing about certain fan bases and have a real conversation for once.

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//prepares for day long argument to begin

If Brady hit’s him a split second sooner, Reed’s foot would have been planted and the kick could have done major damage.

Perhaps, but that’s hypothetical territory. NFL has shown intent is irrelevant on helmet to helmets, so we can only go on what actually happened. As it happened, Reed had time to elude the errant leg. Also, Brady was hit low and late one play after throwing a pass, nothing came of it. It’s all so subjective

only with Patriot fans can being a good dude and mutual respect be determined based on a willingness to abslove Tommy Brady from performing a dirty play. Billy and Tommy don’t respect Reed anymore or any less than they do Ray Ray and Suggs.

Now you’re just being intentionally obtuse. Read anything Belichick has said about Reed over the years. Loves the man. And Reed has always been pretty classy. Stop obsessing about certain fan bases and have a real conversation for once.

Ed Reed seems like a good dude and has a mutual respect thing going with Brady and Belichick, it’s too bad he can’t convince his teammates to stop being such ass hats after every Pats game.

only with Patriot fans can being a good dude and mutual respect be determined based on a willingness to abslove Tommy Brady from performing a dirty play. Billy and Tommy don’t respect Reed anymore or any less than they do Ray Ray and Suggs.

“Well, Cracker jack agreed with me this morning, so that forces me to recuse myself from commenting on this post.”

No risk of injury

Watch that again. If Brady hit’s him a split second sooner, Reed’s foot would have been planted and the kick could have done major damage.

Good luck getting Suggs and Ray Ray to ever stop acting like asshats.

I’m fairly certain asshatting is a major at ball so hard u

Ed Reed seems like a good dude and has a mutual respect thing going with Brady and Belichick, it’s too bad he can’t convince his teammates to stop being such ass hats after every Pats game.

Good luck getting Suggs and Ray Ray to ever stop acting like asshats. I think you’re asking the impossible.

He’s reaped what he’s sown, and then some

He ran into Kevin Costner the other day and it was awkward.