Year later guy is still telling anyone who will listen what an amazing thing he did.

that’s called selling bullshit to willing customers

fuckface Emmert

You can thank LSU for giving Emmert his initial boost into the NCAA stratosphere.

The NCAA went after PSU because it was good PR, not because it affected how PSU competed at amateur athletics.

Sanctions didnt bother me, the self righteous finger wagging and accompanying PR tour by fuckface Emmert bother me. Year later guy is still telling anyone who will listen what an amazing thing he did.

Since we’ve established that the NCAA has fairly extraordinary powers to govern its members, what difference does it make that how the information was obtained if they, the NCAA, broke no laws? This isn’t a court of law. Slimy? yes. Is the lawyer on the hook legally? I’d think so. But they have the information, so why not use it?

/no coop

The fact remains, the NCAA used this as the sole basis for sanctions, with no additional investigation of their own. My question is, if this is a proper investigation, how can anything be improper.

What more should they be required to do? Or, to put it more bluntly, wtf would you expect the NCAA to learn by investigating further that would have changed the case? Also, I assure you, even if the Freeh report hadn’t been publicly released, the university would have handed it over to the NCAA. So basically, you’re mad b/c the NCAA didn’t have to work hard to investigate PSU?

Also, apparently you can’t discern the difference between using a publicly available report that is extremely thorough and extensive (proper investigation) and paying a lawyer to violate his ethical duties (improper investigation). That’s a pretty bright line.

c’mon. I’ve made my peace with how the NCAA handled the Penn State thing, in that they basically said this is unprecedented, so we’re going outside normal procedures. Fine, whatever. I’m just curious why they wouldn’t invoke that same rationale here. The Miami situation doesn’t seem unprecedented, but has very little precedent, so why not just stay on the warpath and never admit mistakes?

My question is, if this is a proper investigation, how can anything be improper

Queefer?

You can bash the NCAA for punishing PSU for criminal actions, but let’s not try and say a publicly available document isn’t “proper” evidence in an NCAA investigation. That’s just fucking stupid.

Just because something is publicly available doesn’t change its purpose. The Freeh Report was the result of an investigation commissioned by the university to determine what went wrong internally and how to fix the governance procedures to ensure a failure doesn’t happen again. It was released because the situation was high profile.

The fact remains, the NCAA used this as the sole basis for sanctions, with no additional investigation of their own. My question is, if this is a proper investigation, how can anything be improper.

This is not “typical Pennsylvania”

someone tell me how the Miami investigation scandal implicates the PSU situation? I mean, PSU publicly released a report detailing how incredibly shitty the administration handled the affair.

It doesn’t. Any Penn Stater saying this shit should go kickbox with a kangeroo.

Whatever your feelings on the Freeh Report, the NCAA took an internal governance document and used it as the sole basis for the Penn State sanctions. How is that “proper”?

Yeah, definitely an internal governance document

You can bash the NCAA for punishing PSU for criminal actions, but let’s not try and say a publicly available document isn’t “proper” evidence in an NCAA investigation. That’s just fucking stupid.

They are on the NCAA payroll. They send out invoices with each post and comment.

/yes, piloting a bus

Sort of like the midget taxi driver in Scrooged?

/yes, piloting a bus

I don’t believe so, that was Jason. Duffy did write most of the Penn State posts and I recall most of them being spot on. Jason was the one advocating that the entire university be “shut down”.