Michigan Plays Better Defense Than You Think, While NC State and Mississippi Are Dreadful on Defense
When measuring the quality of a team’s defense, the two most frequently cited metrics
are Points per Game and Points per 100 Possessions.
Points per Game can be often be misleading, but it is easy to understand: teams that play at a faster pace will allow more points. For this reason, Points per 100 Possessions is that preferred metric of most advanced basketball analysis. The Team Defense Ranks on KenPom.com (AdjD) are based on this metric.
Many teams are inconsistent – brilliant stretches of play are often interrupted by lapses of ineptitude. Because of this, I wanted to look at teams when they were at their best – and how often they were there. To do this, I created a new metric: Shutdown Stretches. A Shutdown Stretch is a period of 4+ game minutes without allowing the opponent to score. The teams with the most Shutdown Stretches can be seen below.
Of these teams, only Michigan is a surprise. The fact that they have 23 Shutdown Stretches is impressive, and being tied with Louisville and Florida is no small feat. Most impressive about that stat is that they didn’t rack all of those up against weaker competition. Michigan had two against Ohio State, two against Pittsburgh, two against Kansas State and one against Arkansas. The Wolverines have shown that they are dominant on Offense (#1 in AdjO by a significant Margin on KenPom) but this shows that they have the ability to be equally dominant on defense.
Also of note – several highly ranked teams were at the bottom of these stats.
NC State’s defensive struggles are well documented – they gave up 86 points (and lost) to Wake Forest Tuesday. Ole Miss has been solid defensively all year, but hasn’t shown the flashes of dominance that other top rated defenses have. North Carolina has been a model of inconsistency all year – it will be interesting to see if Roy Williams can put together some solid stretches and turn around the Tar Heels’ season.
Note: The rankings displayed in the charts are based on the SevenOvertimes system – a ranking system that was presented at the 2012 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference. The key feature of the SevenOvertimes system is that it does not look at game outcomes or wins and losses when ranking teams – it examines the play-by-play data from each game to create a Cumulative Win Probability (CWP). The CWP from each game is a measure of how much of the game each team won. The CWP is then averaged across all of a team’s games to create a unique rating for each team.

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January 23rd, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Advanced stats? You’re fired, new guy.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Not a CBB guy but that doesn’t seem like a great way to measure defense.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:34 AM
I only have one question: who decided that headline was a good idea?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Also I believe Shutdown Stretch is the name of the IT company that Gannett Media uses.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:36 AM
This just doesn’t strike me as an accurate measure of defensive ability or consistency. It strikes me as someone had a little too much time and thought it would be fun to put some shit in a blender and hope something came out.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Who’s this jabroni?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Who decided that 4 minutes is the magic number? Why not 3 minutes or 5 minutes?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:39 AM
What if they had Aaron Craft?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:39 AM
I’d venture the author doesn’t have much understanding of generalized statistics, if he invents a stat, but makes no effort to validate with other defensive metrics. Does shutdown stretches have a correlation to PPG? D-FG%?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:40 AM
Because that’s what made Michigan get on the list, which given the title, was probably the a priori goal.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:40 AM
heyyoooo
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:41 AM
UVA’s got the defense. Also we have the slowest damn game pace ever. Such is Bennett Ball.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:42 AM
I’ll make that swap. Love Aaron’s D and effort, but his lack of offense is holding the Bucks back. Oh and Thad sucks balls.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:42 AM
“Several highly ranked teams” = 2 of 5 teams being ranked at all, 18th and 24th respectively?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:42 AM
The lesson I’ve learned is an NBA team will hire you if you do a mediocre job. No end game with college hoops though.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:43 AM
This is everything that’s wrong with the college game.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Is this a guest appearance or will he be here regularly.
Anything on this site that attempts to rationally/mathematically analyze something gets a hearty thumbs up from me.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:46 AM
Nice job Bashuk, would you clowns rather get another Te’o post?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:47 AM
If it includes more hilarious ESPN updates contradicting Monk patting himself on the back, sure.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:48 AM
What happened to hazing the new guy?
I still think it’s a weird stat, and question the conclusions. Whatever. Good job, good effort.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:48 AM
Is Bashuk just a nom de plume for the mysterious Richard Jones?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:49 AM
It’s better than Monk writing about college basketball, so welcome the hell aboard chief.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Especially the “better defense than you think”. That’s like saying I’m a good golfer because of the 15 great shots a round I hit, not the 94 on the card at the end of the day.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:49 AM
To be fair you do this with every stats-centric post on this site
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:49 AM
My brain hurts.
I go old school: if it passes the eye test, it’s OK.
/ Fails eye test due to advanced age
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Not a fan of the “look at this dunk” NBA coverage?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Because there’s a TV timeout every 4 minutes. I don’t know if “Shutdown Stretches” are worth a shit, but that part is pretty obvious.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:50 AM
What happened to hazing the new guy?
I still think it’s a weird stat, and question the conclusions. Whatever. Good job, good effort.
Bashuk you suck and your “Shutdown Stretches” metric is dogshit
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Not true. I liked two of them. I hated two of them. And that covers the last 4 years.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:51 AM
I’d venture the author doesn’t have much understanding of generalized statistics, if he invents a stat, but makes no effort to validate with other defensive metrics. Does shutdown stretches have a correlation to PPG? D-FG%?
based on his involvement with is first post about something something stats, he will be here to engage you naysayers
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Whatever brings in 17 comments.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Michigan had two against Ohio State
OSU was up 20 points and Thad had them going into a stall early in the 2nd half (which almost came back to haunt them). Two guys were standing just inside half-court avoiding the 5-second violation.
Michigan, if anything, needs to find ways to increase tempo and possessions.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:52 AM
I follow college hoops as much as the hardcore folks here and I can’t find any use for this at this time. I will follow Matt’s posts, but unless the committee uses sevenovertimes outcomes (which they don’t), it is meaningless.
/I do appreciate the non-Teo/non-CRM song of the day post, Matt.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:52 AM
I meant Mark.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Mississippi is a very athletic team and when they’re making threes they can beat anyone. But they are pretty bad on a D, they let Arkansas back in a game they had no business being in. Can’t wait for college baseball season.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:53 AM
I’d encourage him to justify it here… I’m guessing the editorial process here didn’t involve a lot of methodological justification. If he can defend it, then good for him, I’m wrong.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Whatever brings in 17 comments.
/Pours one out for Yardwok.
//into glass because I’m not wasting beer on baseball.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Well, consider that 95% of fans use PPG as their main/only criterion for judging defense…
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:54 AM
I think this post would have been more fun if he looked at the “shutdown stretches” of commenters during the day. What’s the longest Spence has ever gone without commenting – 4 hours?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
That makes no sense, but ok.
I really hope that was not intentional
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Also I hope Michigan and MSU aren’t in the same bracket. I think both teams can get to the Final 4.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
KCR – I don’t think SevenOT has anything to do with defense ratings or anything. I think it’s just there as self-promotion for the author.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
Vlad what’s your biggest gripe about Matta?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:55 AM
@WWoS
Was it you that at one time mentioned the ability to explain Calculus, or am I thinking of someone else?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Like an adult.
of integrity
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:57 AM
that big ol’ bird beak on his face.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Move over Duffy, there’s a new WWoS rival in town.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Is there an overage fee when Ballin’ comments go over 17 on any given day?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:58 AM
I guess I’m saying I don’t really give a shit if you give 100 points up in first half and none in the second, but lose 100-75. You still gave up 100 points.
To his credit, it’s interpreted somewhat correctly when he says “Many teams are inconsistent – brilliant stretches of play are often interrupted by lapses of ineptitude.” – I just don’t think I care about four minute stretches of competence, nor do I think it correlates strongly enough to overall defense to be a metric that matters in predicting W-L
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:58 AM
That he looks like a cartoon character. And an alcoholic.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Whatever brings in 17 comments.
foo, you better check yesterday’s ballin….over 100 comments
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:59 AM
KCR – I don’t think SevenOT has anything to do with defense ratings or anything. I think it’s just there as self-promotion for the author. WWoS
That’s what I was wondering, but I reread the post and this:
Note: The rankings displayed in the charts are based on the SevenOvertimes system – a ranking system that was presented at the 2012 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:59 AM
If Vlad starts calling him “Hillbilly,” you know his rage is peaking.
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Is Spence #1 on the all-time “number of comments” list?
January 23rd, 2013 at 11:59 AM
I’ve heard coaches say they use the TV timeouts into their thinking, like they’ll encourage the team to “win” that section of the game…I get the choosing of the timeframe, just would be interested in seeing why this is better than say points-per-possession allowed or something
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Depends on the size of the bowl he just burned.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 PM
I think just the sevenOT rankings are based on sevenOT rankings.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Their thinking of when to stand there screaming so they know they’ll be on camera going into the commercial break?
/college coaches don’t actually coach shit
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Me and Ty Webb sprung Lisk on this topic yesterday. Post forthcoming.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:01 PM
He’ll earn his contract over the next two years. Once Deshawn is gone, talent will be sparse. You’re seeing a bit of that this year.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Some bio info on Mark. http://www.sloansportsconference.com/?p=6151
Is Spence #1 on the all-time “number of comments” list?
By far. Although Vez has a stranglehold on #2.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Someone just took a shit all over my screen? What kid of messed up ad was that?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Fair, fair
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 PM
agreed, Arkansas played like dogshit most of that game and they still managed to tie it up halfway through the second half, and that was at that dump they call a basketball arena in Oxford. ole piss ain’t bad, but they are going to need to shoot the lights out to win most games.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Someone just took a shit all over my screen? What kind of messed up ad was that?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Agree that the “shutdown stretch” means nothing if you give up baskets on 10 consecutive possessions after that 4 minute stretch. Also agree that a team that milks the shot clock is much more likely to have a 4 minute “shut down” stretch as the opponent will have fewer possessions.
Basically, I don’t think shutdown stretches means shit, but I’m happy to see some effort in analysis as opposed to posting some link from a story from some other site or a pic of some bimbo now dating an NFL player (though I think I’m one of the few who doesn’t appreciate the latter).
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Has anyone taken a screenshot of this fecal ad?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:03 PM
But what is the opinion of Mrs. Wes Welker on all these stats?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Their thinking of when to stand there screaming so they know they’ll be on camera going into the commercial break?
recruiting tools (both senses of the word)
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
he has a big stupid baby head
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
But of the teams that play opponents with horrible offenses?
Yeah, you held your opponent scoreless for 4 minutes but they also missed 4 wide open 3′s, a layup, and committed 4 unforced turnovers.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Has Ronny been benched? He’s the Jimmer of TBL.
/starts “Free Ronny” chant
//high-fives CRM
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
The Attack of the Runny Brown Ad returns.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Someone just took a shit all over my screen? What kid of messed up ad was that?
A laxative ad.
I think just the sevenOT rankings are based on sevenOT rankings.
Yeah, well, I’m just over thinking something that doesn’t have any effect on where a team will be seeded. You are probably right.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:04 PM
GOD THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE GREAT IN COLLEGE
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Also, why is Mississippi being mentioned in a college basketball (or any sport for that matter) post? Did they somehow become relevant since the end of segregation?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:05 PM
He’s off on a bender with soused after being given his 2012 TBL MVP award at last night’s TBLys.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Interesting writeup Mark, I think this only scratches the surface and doesnt really tell me whether I should bet on the under for the Pitt/Louisville game.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I’d like a breakdown of how long it takes to finish the final 60 seconds of every college bball game. If the o/u is 10 minutes, I’m betting the over.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 PM
or a pic of some bimbo now dating an NFL player (though I think I’m one of the few who doesn’t appreciate the latter).
eh. we get what we get and we don’t throw a fit
/parents will appreciate that
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 PM
He gets minutes at the end of the game, unlike that Florida State chick, who may not be on the team anymore.
/Tomahawk Chop
//Whoo-wooooo-woohoohoo
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Probably because they’re the best team in the SEC so far. Just maybe, though.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Last I remember of Ole Miss basketball was when Bryce Drew beat them
Need to dock teams a timeout or two…you’re already getting three per half due to TV, don’t need 5 more in a 40 minute game
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:08 PM
They’re actually kicking ass (relatively speaking) in football recruiting this year.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Three per half, two full and one 30.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Agreed. At least NBA has the halfcourt advancement, making the timeouts worthwhile. That rule makes zero sense, but it’s entertaining.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:10 PM
i stand corrected. All hail Mississippi.
/Sings Dixie
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:11 PM
//Riots after Obama is reelected
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 PM
/points and laughs at Louisville losing to Nova
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 PM
I think someone mentioned Freeze has taken the SEC Christian mantel from Richt. Enough reason for me to root against him.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:12 PM
for real.
/fuck ole piss
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Sure. I can get on board with that. Sorry, Mark.
/back to Duffy
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:21 PM
This stat is useless because 4 minutes in a 40 minute game is nothing. Show me a team that shuts down teams for 8 minutes at a clip then we can talk. But if you’re going to throw this meaningless stat at least don’t write this.
Uh, no. First of all Michigan is 248th in adjusted tempo. It shows that they wil have stretches where the other team doesn’t score simply because there are less possesions. Oregon is a HUGE surprise here. They play fast which increases possessions. The fact that they are holding teams with no points for 4 minutes this often (which again mean nothing) is the only surprising part of this cockamamie exercise.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:24 PM
You just hate all stat posts here, Wallace.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:30 PM
you guys should bone
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Ginger!
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:34 PM
I don’t mind a stat post which makes some sense like amount of Kate Upton Jiggling per second.
Spoiler alert. I have just been handed Mr. Bashuk’s next college basketball stats analysis. Purdue’s second half perfomance as related to the amount of times Gene Keady took a dump during a Big Ten conference game at halftime. My sources tell me the dude blew up the Assembly Hall locker room.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:35 PM
I think WWoS was being sarcastic, wallace, since he himself is a stat nerd
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:36 PM
speaking of Gene Keady
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:36 PM
LOL. Check out the “note” at the bottom of the post, and comment 96 from Roethlis …
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Regularly. His first post was Saturday. Much more to come.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Mark should drop by to comment (he did Saturday).
I have enjoyed reading WWoS’s comments here. Reminds me of the guy in Good Will Hunting trying to impress the girl at the bar. Then Mark jumps in (He’s Matt Damon in this analogy) and … well, apples or something.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:38 PM
MIT? Couldn’t get into Harvard? Loser
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Probably couldn’t even get into Notre Dame. Such a pathetic loser
/uncle remus’d
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:39 PM
I saw that before I posted it. Which is my point. The author should have enough experience to know how to properly introduce and validate a statistical method.
The issue comes in that the scientific editorial process is far different from the journalistic one. I’m pretty sure you didn’t scrutinize the methods and justifications, whereas in science, validation comes from peer review and successful defense to criticisms. So it’s very difficult to present a statistical paper with valid methodology in a journalistic forum. If I wrote a stats post without any help, I’d come up with crap too, because you really need opposing forces to come up with a polished product.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Did I miss a comment from Mark?
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Bring back Ronny
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Not true at all. I actually don’t understand statistics very well at all. I’m a scientist. I’m trained to evaluate questions and answers and reasoning. I have no knowledge or care of the statistical methods, as long as they are appropriate.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Here ya go! Diarrhea runs down my screen then these words appear.
January 23rd, 2013 at 12:49 PM
You have a Yahoo and a Hotmail account, CJ? Are you from 2001?
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Who says I have a hotmail account? I had one in high school.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Sorry for not responding to all the wonderful feedback earlier. The WiFi connection in my mom’s basement went out for a few hours, I didn’t know what to do.
The intent of the post was to look at how often team’s are at their best – and not simply rank defenses. There was no a priori goal – I wasn’t trying to find a stat that made Michigan look good or NC State look bad. And yes, the 4 minutes choice was simply because of the TV timeouts – I have always viewed the game as successive four minute stretches.
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I took it all back, so whatever… I still don’t think it’s a useful stat at all, it’s just an exercise in seeing what happens.
That said, have you tried to correlate it to overall defense? Is it predictive of what happens at other points in games? If it doesn’t correlate to points per possession, you have a lot of explaining to do in the source of that variance.
If Michigan has stretches of being awesome but their other metrics don’t suggest they are good defensively, my conclusion isn’t “MLB players die early”, my conclusion is “I’m missing a confounding variable”.
/hope that helps
January 23rd, 2013 at 1:56 PM
In a truly statistical world, you would be able to predict the likelihood of a four-minute scoreless stretch based simply on 1) the number of possessions per four minutes a team usually allows and 2) the percentage of possessions which allow zero points.
I’d argue that your four minute stat is much more a measure of 1) using the whole shot clock and 2) being good at offensive rebounding, than a metric that really suggests how good a team is defensively in spite of contrary evidence (if there is any). Keep in mind I care nothing of the reality whether Mich is good or bad, only the interpretation and of this statistic, which I feel is incorrect. I think there are questions/responses which would are important to address were you to take this stat seriously, and that a different editorial process might have exposed it. TBL can insult me all he wants, but I don’t think there is anything inaccurate in these last two comments.
January 23rd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
Bashuk’s a Braves fan? Woo-hoo! Maybe we can count on some Braves posts in 2013.