Phil Mickelson Whining About His Taxes Went Over Well
Phil Mickelson qualifies as “filthy” rich, earning nearly $50 million per year. Like many in his tax bracket, he expressed his frustration about being “targeted” by tax increases and told reporters he may consider “drastic changes.”
“There are going to be some drastic changes for me because I happen to be in that zone that has been targeted both federally and by the state and, you know, it doesn’t work for me right now. So I’m going to have to make some changes.
“If you add up all the federal and you look at the disability and the unemployment and the Social Security and the state, my tax rate’s 62, 63%. So I’ve got to make some decisions on what I’m going to do.”
Mickelson already apologized for the remarks. To be fair, he will be facing a hefty bill. His federal taxes will go up in 2013. California also approved state income tax increases, bringing the rate for millionaires to 13.3 percent. Were Mickelson to “drastically change” his permanent residence from California to state income tax-free Florida, he would save around $6.4 million per year. Uprooting can be rough, but we’re sure he would pull through.
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January 22nd, 2013 at 12:41 PM
Would assume all his mulatto souvenirs dropped across this country would earn him enough tax credits that this wouldn’t be an issue.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:42 PM
he would save around $6.4 million per year
You know how many manzier’s you can buy with that?!!
/kramer’d
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Very trolly tone to this post. A man who pays an absurd percentage of his earnings would like to pay less. What an outlandish sentiment.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I don’t agree with him, but don’t know why he apologized.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:44 PM
you know what they say, Phil… Mo’ Money, Mo’ Quandaries.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I have always rooted for Phil. Love his story. But, this is complete douchebag material.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:46 PM
maybe his accountant called and reminded him he’s not even paying close to the current tax rate due to the use of tax shelters. Best not to draw attention to yourself right now, Phil.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Because of this 99% class warfare bullshit. If a rich guy complains about taxes, he’s a villain by default.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:47 PM
just never goes over well when gthe rich complain about anything, really. that typed, if i was as rich as him, i’d complain about my chef being late, my nanny being frosty and my charter having square ice cubes instead of those cool round ones
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Really, ridiculously wealthy white males are the most victimized segment of society.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:48 PM
ZOMG the nontroversy!! What a turrble person he is.
/said no one
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Probably advised to in the name of endorsements, but I couldn’t even tell you what product Mickelson would endorse such that the user of that product would be offended by the sentiment.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:49 PM
*believe they are the most victimized segment of society.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Yes, Mickelson is “whining” that the government is confiscating 60%+ of the money that he worked for — and earned.
And yet all the liberals with their hands in your pocket will still complain he’s not paying his “fair share.”
I guess Phil should realize that when he lives in a state with 10% unemployment and 12 million illegals roaming wild, well, someone will have to foot the bill.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Jesus Christ. Mickelson issued an apology because of how negatively this went over. It’s like you don’t even know how to read.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Vijay makes a joke about this right?
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:51 PM
not a villain, but a douchebag.
“Oh man! It sucks that instead of making $32,000,000 i made only $29,500,000! How can i live without that other $2,500,000?”
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Do you believe he is paying 60%+ of his money to taxes?
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:51 PM
Did we learn nothing from The Dark Knight Rises? Other than obvious fraudlent stock transactions are allowed to stand and nuclear weapons are as bad as people believe of coruse
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:51 PM
“ridiculously wealthy white males” are the ones paying for all those liberal welfare programs that you crave so much. You should really be a little more appreciative, Duffy.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Probably advised to in the name of endorsements, but I couldn’t even tell you what product Mickelson would endorse such that the user of that product would be offended by the sentiment.
This is what I was thinking too. It’s not like the KPMG guys are disagreeing with him.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:52 PM
They just catch the most heat if they have the audacity to complain about anything. Even something as reasonable as exorbitant tax rates.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
it’s not a post about taxation without MikeNYC.
always good for a laugh.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
You should really be a little more appreciative, Duffy.
You are familiar with Duffy right? I highly doubt it that he has ever qualified for any welfare programs in his life dude.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:53 PM
I like that Mike rips on teachers for leaving at two in the afternoon and getting three months a year “off” but a golfer is the hardest working man alive.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:54 PM
If he’s paying 60% he’s as stupid as you are, Mike. Oh, and maybe if he paid his taxes, California wouldn’t have 12 million illegals roaming wild, but like you would know anything about that from your home in NYC.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:54 PM
That’s just dumb. No shit he can live without it, but that really is immaterial.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:55 PM
All I learned is that women are evil. And that movie was way too long.
I hear Afghanistan and its 0% tax rate is nice this time of year.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Though that being said I get why Mickelson is pissed, nobody likes having more money taken out of their paychecks, and nobody likes listening to people bitch about it either.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:55 PM
That’s a solid comparison.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Also immaterial. He earns what he gets.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Also, if our rich people paid their fucking taxes we would nearly be out of debt.
https://www.ftb.ca.gov/aboutFTB/Delinquent_Taxpayers.shtml
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Those white male buddies of yours are paying about a 16% rate Mike, because they don’t have to actually declare their income as income, but get to pretend it’s “earnings” and that somehow that makes it different.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Didn’t say he didn’t. People are willing to pay him the money, then he earned it within the constructs of his employment, good for him.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Of course it’s not material. To a liberal, though — all money earned really belongs to the government. Individuals should be lucky they even get to keep half the money they make.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:57 PM
this should end well.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:58 PM
UPDATE: Several readers have pointed out that a furious phonecall is being made from the lobby of a Connecticut Porsche dealership to an accountant searching to find out whether throwing a question mark after a number means you get to dodge all responsibility for it.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Anyone here who didn’t secretly whine to themselves a little bit after getting their first paycheck this year is probably lying. It was fun to watch people trip over themselves to not outwardly complain about it.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Perhaps you missed this little tidbit from earlier today Mike, where it explains why you and Phil are both full of it. (Courtesy of Spencer)
My first reaction is that Phil should talk to his accountant because his effective tax rate is surely lower than 60 percent. The fiscal cliff deal raised his marginal income tax rate to 39.6% (assuming he’s in the top bracket). The phase-out of itemized deductions will add about 1.2% and he will also have to pay a combined Medicare tax rate of 3.8% (the regular 2.9% for self-employed people plus the new 0.9% surtax enacted to help finance the Affordable Care Act). According to the New York Times article, Mickelson will also owe 13.3% in California state income taxes because he’s in the new millionaire bracket. That adds up to 57.9%, but state income taxes and 1.45% of the payroll tax are deductible from federal income tax, so that reduces their net cost by 5.8% (39.6% of 14.75%). In net, Mickelson will owe about 52% of his marginal earning in federal and state taxes.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:59 PM
God I wish we had one of those in office right now.
/reads more about Beyonce being the biggest sack of shit alive
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:59 PM
this should end well. Jim
Duffy should have snuck this into the AM Roundup.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:59 PM
Gritty. You and your facts are not welcome here.
January 22nd, 2013 at 12:59 PM
apparently not since his extensive research on actual tax rates has led him to consider making drastic changes to avoid taxation.
like winning less, or doing less television commercials with his weird cocaine eyes stare.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:00 PM
I love when race is also randomly added to the mix. Not only is he rich, but he’s white too!
Do I really need to explain the difference to you between a “salary” and capital gains?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:00 PM
When millionaire golfers begin complaining about taxes, you know you’ve lost the country.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:01 PM
/reads more about Beyonce being the biggest sack of shit alive
Obama should be impeached over this.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Slow news day eh? Can we all just agree that ESPN offers to pay former players like Tim and Lomas Brown to make outlandish statements?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:01 PM
To be honest, I have not looked.
I’m just glad the drug-addicted welfare recipients got their iPhones.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:03 PM
So he essentially works more for the government than he does for himself and his family.
But he’s not paying his fair share.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM
I don’t blame rich people wanting to keep as much of their money as possible, but really, fuck them all. I’m trying to come up with enough cash to re-fi and afford a baby and our taxes went up, I can’t really feel bad for any of them. I’m not asking him for any of his money, he doesn’t need to (in a roundabout way) ask for mine (by suggesting he should have a lower burden, I should have a greater).
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM
People who arrive by floating doors or Mexican gangsters keep the cost of goods low. Hilarious when small government, free market types want restrictions on incoming consumers who will work for nothing. Isn’t that the ideal you robber baron cunts?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM
/reads more about Beyonce being the biggest sack of shit alive
Obama should be impeached over this.
What’s with this?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM
damn. someone brought chinese food into my cube row. the pleasant aromas of general tso’s, white rice and soy sauce are getting to me.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM
And pays more in taxes than many small towns.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:05 PM
This
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:05 PM
He absolutely is. I think the people that are upset are the people that live paycheck to paycheck, likely black (that’s for you), and most likely just jealous.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:05 PM
Isn’t that the ideal you robber baron cunts?
I knew this post was missing something. Soused.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Eh, just a restoration to previous rates…I’m not gonna let Grover Norquist get me down about it
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Capital gains… you make old white Presidents work for you to get you rich. Salary (for rich people) you make poor people work for you, treat them like shit, to get you rich.
I’ve come around fully on this issue. Tax capital gains like any income. Tax all income the same. Wall Street is too big/leveraged anyway.
/liberal hall of famer
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 PM
That’s still a shit ton of money. Probably more than all* the commentariet on here pay combined
* = myself excluded. I’m the result of Bill Gates, Mrs. Warren Buffet and a four pack of wine coolers.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 PM
He’s a fucking golfer Mike. Guys who earn $50 million a year golfing come off like douchbags when they complain about money . If you want to complain, complain in private. Do it in public and you’re going to get skewered by those who work their ass off and are lucky to have money/time to golf three times a summer.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:06 PM
Shouldnt you be in line at the gun store trying to hoard oversized clips and assault rifles?
When you add in the government funding the airport gets where he hangers his private plane the number probably dips below 50% and you can sleep easier tonight.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:07 PM
You fucks seriously need to raise the capital gains tax.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Fucking moochers.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Eff this big titty’d douchebag.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Get rid of corporate income tax but then tax all cap gains/dividends as regular income…would be an interesting experiment
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:09 PM
You mean there aren’t tons of American workers just waiting for the minimum (and in some cases sub-minimum) wage back-breaking labor jobs to be freed up when the illegal immagants are deported?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:09 PM
why go to a gun store when you can pay cash at a gun show, that way the gov’t can’t charge sales tax!!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:09 PM
I just don’t understand this.
1) ban all ‘assault-style’ rifles for commercial sales
2) it’s just banning the ‘look’ anyone who complains is an asshole and a fucking idiot, because they say they need guns for personal protection, but will a different color gun not protect you?
3) ban high cap mags. I don’t think this will help much since most crimes arent committed with them, but if you can’t defend yourself in 10 shots, you shouldn’t have a gun. If 11 guys break into your home, I’m going to bet that a firefight is not your best option for survival.
/it’s just logic, people
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:10 PM
FIGJAM should move to Louisiana, where the governor wants to eliminate the state income tax.
It’ll be priceles when his kids come home and demonstrate how education works in a state with no tax revenue base by talking about how Jesus rode his pet dinosaur to fight the War on Christmas.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Agreed. 100% chance that Beyonce and Jay-Z don’t pay their “fair share.”
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Jay Z and Beyonce being the guests of honor (they’re America’s real first family, ya know) perfectly sums up Obama’s presidency.
Jay Z shows up to the Occupy rallies, makes it a point to be seen by the cameras, and starts hocking “Occupy” shirts through his clothing company. Then he gives an interview saying he doesn’t give a shit about it or know anything about it, just wanted to make some money.
Beyonce was paid millions of dollars to perform for Qaddafi’s son’s private birthday party (something Mariah Carey and Usher did as fell and faced equally zero shit over it).
That is to say, suck up to the poor when you have zero interest in actually doing anything in their interest, and buddy up with dictatorships until you get caught.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:10 PM
I’m with Butters. Close the corporate loopholes but tax cap gains as income.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:10 PM
/vomits uncontrollably
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:11 PM
nah, they’ll be too busy waiting for their gov’t handout checks from their mobile home wondering why the rich people let their yards go to shit since all the mecksicans left.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:12 PM
/ Mike NYC takes careful aim with his AR-15 …
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:12 PM
The great irony in all this is that the folks groveling for a piece of Mickelson’s money (via funding of your beloved welfare programs and the like) are the ones who have the nerve to call him selfish.
Half this country doesn’t even pay income tax. And they are the ones whining about a guy who gives half of his away to the most inefficient & incompetent group of people in the entire country (federal & state government).
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:12 PM
You don’t have his bankable skill. Quit whining, you jealous populist.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Yeah. I get why people don’t want capital gains tax to rise, but by definition, it’s something that helps the rich and hurts the poor, and there’s no argument against that.
Also… I’m fine with people having guns, especially someone like me who is currently fighting a war with a woodpecker who lives in my cedar siding, a pregnant crazy raccoon, and a wolf-looking coyote who stalks my wife. But a style of gun that glorifies violence or encourage people to feel ‘cool’ with a gun? It’s sad to have to ban it, but there’s no functional reason not to. Just stupidity.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
It’s still mind numbing that people still don’t know what the fuck an assault rifle actually is. Who needs facts when you can just go by your gut!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
/Scarface
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
No. But I did whine to my drug dealer when he said the cost of an ounce went up 10 dollars.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:13 PM
They pay the coders of this site?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:14 PM
I agree with MikeNYC. Fuck those lazy fucking entitled veterans who lost limbs in Vietnam and need disability and retirement benefits to survive.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:14 PM
I guess Phil should realize that when he lives in a state with 10% unemployment and 12 million illegals roaming wild, well, someone will have to foot the bill.
What all this roaming wild shit? The crew shows up to my house every Friday morning…
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
If that’s at me, please educate me. I paid too much attention, but I was under the impression that most guns that would be banned aren’t much different in function than others, in that fully auto weapons are already illegal. My Ruger 10-22 isn’t any different than an AR-15.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
i wish i was one of the 50% that didn’t have anything deducted from my pay every week and got a magical check every April from Uncle Sam.
or i wish i could afford an accountant who made sure my wealth was hidden, untaxed and was able to get back most, if not all, my taxes paid to the gov’t through loopholes in the tax code.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Phil Mickelson is the victim here. How will he feed his family now?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM
Then again, it is the ObamaPhone Electorate that re-elected the One in the first place, so it really shouldn’t be much of a surprise.
The productive, working class is now the minority in this country, and the “soak the rich” represents the majority.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Just because you don’t pay income taxes at the end of the year, doesn’t mean people aren’t paying federal wage taxes, medicare, social security, state, local, sales, and the variety of other taxes that hit consumption more than income.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:17 PM
if only Mittens were president to save the oppressed, white rich folk!!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:18 PM
It’s “bro,” I tell you!!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:18 PM
which clearly doesn’t involve MikeNYC since he’s been commenting on this topic for the past 30 minutes.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:18 PM
When Cheney did this, it was called “nation-buiding.”
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Gotta love those higher food prices and electric bills!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Don’t close the loopholes, get rid of corporate income tax…profits are going to get taxed at some point anyway when it gets to shareholders, just make that regular income and then companies will have more cash on hand
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM
a) he’s not paying 60+%…he’s paying 52%.
b) is phil’s employment doing anything to help the unemployment and illegal immigration problems? no. he generates no jobs or income for the area (don’t give that crap about economic boost from people going to see him play…rarely are PGA events in areas that need that type of influx).
c) im one of the biggest defenders of golf and golf culture around and still cant think of a way you can ethically justify a guy making FORTY PLUS MILLION PER YEAR FOR CHASING A WHITE BALL AROUND A LAWN complaining about being taxed too much on money that he “earned” in one of the harshest economic environments we’ve had in decades.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Not one person has used the word selfish. Everyone understands where he’s coming from. Everyone also understands he’s a fat fucking golfer.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:19 PM
That is to say, suck up to the poor when you have zero interest in actually doing anything in their interest, and buddy up with dictatorships until you get caught.
Gotcha. Agreed. I thought you were implying she did something today.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Then again, it is the ObamaPhone Electorate that re-elected the One in the first place, so it really shouldn’t be much of a surprise.
Funny you should say that, because this happened.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:20 PM
They need help? Fuck, let the free market provide it, even if it costs an arm and a leg.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:20 PM
When the temporary tax cut expired I lost (based on my old salary) about $60 a pay. That’s not nothing, at all, but I never felt the need to blame poor people and Obama for my diminished paycheck. And I don’t earn 5 percent of what Mickelson makes in a year.
If I can weather a 2.2 percent tax increase then Mickelson should be fine. STFU.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:20 PM
mike nyc, why do you live in this country?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:21 PM
damn straight. BillyRay ain’t gonna tend those greens, he’s waitin’ for a management position to open up at Apple.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Is this “soaking the rich” the Mormon kind of soaking? If so, I’m out.
/meet me up in that tree in an hour
//I’m in
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Again, immaterial. You don’t need to justify it.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:22 PM
“Ethically justify”? It’s called free-market capitalism, you know, which used to be considered the greatest economic force in the history of mankind, until it came under attack by The One.
Now he’s got half the country looking for people to justify why certain people AREN’T worth what they EARN. They’re worth it because someone is willing to pay it. That’s the definition of value.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:22 PM
i assumed b/c it takes too long for the new iphone to be released in other countries. i may be mistaken though.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:23 PM
PGA pros dont have an impact on that, members do. CC’s aren’t going “hey, we should hire a bunch of greenskeepers because of phil mickelson.” that’s like saying NASCAR drivers help create road paving jobs.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:23 PM
We have a zillon dollar military budget. Let’s focus on not wasting that on corporate wars, instead of financially raping the populace.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:23 PM
I just pulled up TBL on my iPhone over lunch and it redirected me to a mobile site that would barely load and wasn’t showing all of the articles.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
lol.
i wish mitt romney were president :/
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
agreed it’s free market capitalism…phil’s free to find other areas of employment if this golf thing is proving too expensive. perhaps he could start a private equity firm!
can’t disagree with this…
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:25 PM
go on…
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:26 PM
It’s becoming “too expensive” … because Obama and his band of idiot Democrats are raping his paycheck and “spreading the wealth around”, not because the market has diminished his value.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM
It’s becoming “too expensive” … because Obama and his band of idiot Democrats are raping his paycheck and “spreading the wealth around”, not because the market has diminished his value.
So what exactly is Phil going to do? I’m not really certain his life so far has prepared him to do anything other than fly around in his private jet playing golf tournaments.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:28 PM
I was at the Inauguration and spent the last three days in D.C. Wonderful city, had a great time.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:29 PM
If you actually believe this, you’re remarkably dense.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Move to Greece? People don’t pay taxes there and it’s going okay
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
you know, if he just worked harder and won more tournaments, got more sponsorship and really put some effort into his job, he could earn more money to offset any sort of taxation that would make it difficult to live on less than $50,000,000 per year.
i don’t know about anyone else, but if i need more take home pay, i find ways to get it, not blaming the government or others for not getting a big enough paycheck.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Did you have brown shit running all down your screen? That seems to be a common complaint.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:30 PM
mike nyc, why do you live in this country?
i assumed b/c it takes too long for the new iphone to be released in other countries. i may be mistaken though.
if it sucks so much, leave. the rich white guys are clearly not making any changes to appease the other rich white guys, so it’s not going to change for the better for rich white guys. mike, if you are trying to change things instead of complain, i take back everything i typed
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:31 PM
It is a shame that Hoopz lost half of her winnings from I Love Money to taxes.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Had I known you were going, I would have asked you to say “hi” for me to the hookers on Rhode Island.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:31 PM
That’s a rough city.
/Chappelle
Not where you were though. Where’d you stay, Scripty? Love DC
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Is that a reference to MikeNYC’s comments?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Hilton. So we just walked to Dupont Circle and metro’d in.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
Why curse the darkness when you can shoot the lazy liberal candlemaker with your constitutionally protected semi-automatic weapon?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
I just pulled up TBL on my iPhone over lunch and it redirected me to a mobile site that would barely load and wasn’t showing all of the articles.
Baby steps.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:33 PM
MikeNYC is that Barista who takes forever to make my Americano because he’s arguing with another one about the equitable sharing of tips.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM
The evil, rich, white guys are not who you need to be worried about. What they’re “changing” only effects everyone below them. You know, by not hiring new employees, laying off old ones, cutting the hours of current ones to avoid paying ObamaCare taxes, sitting on their piles of cash instead of investing it, raising prices, etc.
Who do you think that hurts the most?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM
You’d think so, but it’s actually referencing some ad that had numerous commenters up in arms yesterday and earlier today.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:35 PM
This is common thought among the Rush/Hannity/Beck listeners of the world. Their Ayn Rand/Galt fantasy world means that everyone else is a lazy moocher. Ayn Rand = horrible writing & horrible ideas.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Well, Jeff Gordon did, when his ex-wife burned rubber on him.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Over 100 comments on a golf post; I hope TBL takes note
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:36 PM
But randy, randy sex, so she wasn’t all bad.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:38 PM
/ TBL takes note
// Drops Ballin’/dunks roundup
/// Installs Daily Golf Splooge with Spencer as Potentate
//// Watches in amazement as pageviews and hits skyrocket
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:38 PM
I’m somewhat shocked (read: scared shitless) by how one-sided the commentariat seems to be regarding taxation. I can only hope it isn’t widely representative.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:38 PM
you know this is exactly what’s been happening from about 2002 to now, right? it has nothing to do with presidential policies. companies have had the power to hire before the financial collapse and they’ve had the power and means to do it after with the piles of cash they saved when firing everyone.
jesus, MikeNYC portrays businesses as the shy girl at the debutante ball who’d rather be doing one of those creepy father/daughter celibacy dances than making the effort and asking someone to dance.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:38 PM
Holy crap, that isn’t a joke!
But yeah, the non-mobile TBL site is better still on a phone. But a mobile site that isn’t just a snipe-hunting mission for newbies!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:39 PM
if anyone deserves to have their wealth spread around, it’s golfers. again, their service provides no benefit to the community…why SHOULDNT they be heavily taxed?
and this infallible market you’re preaching about has inflated his value far past his actual performance. if his $40+mm was from all on-course earnings, you’d have a lot more of a leg to stand on, but when roughly 95% of that comes from him hocking clubs made overseas, a bank that fucked over our economy or an oil company that was at the cneter of one of the worst environmental disasters in the past 50 years well…SHUT UP AND PAY YOUR FUCKING TAXES.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:40 PM
I can only hope it isn’t widely representative.
You should probably sit down before clicking this
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:40 PM
it’s a good thing papa johns employees that were laid off can order one of the 2 million free pizzas he’s giving away. perhaps if he charged for those products, he’d be able to pay em…guess we’ll never know.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:40 PM
I don’t believe in the 0% rates I have to assume Mike endorses, don’t think that makes me a radical
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:41 PM
there’s a difference between “one-sided” and “necessity”. I’m all for as low taxes and as small a government as reasonable. But if the country is gonna burn because our politicians fucked everything up, I’d like to see taxes raised on rich people, before we just decide to make 20 million people homeless.
The problem isn’t things like ‘high taxes’ as much as it’s ‘the use of the taxes’. If you had insurance reform, the increased revenue required for “Obamacare” would be worthwhile financially, instead it is just two diametrically opposed sides each working towards their own end, and doubling the mess/cost.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:41 PM
As I said, the ObamaPhone Electorate has taken over. They are groveling after your money. Where this sense of entitlement comes from truly baffles the mind.
It’s also sad and embarrassing.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:42 PM
It’s just that easy!
Seriously though, I do hope that when that startup Libertarian island nation is … invented, or whatever the shit ever, that Somali pirates leave nobody alive.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:42 PM
I saw 142 comments and assumed that this had turned into a political tomato fight. I have not been disappointed.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:42 PM
The modern brassiere was designed by Caresse Crosby, the wife of Harry Crosby. Both were children of rich Bostonians who became part of the “Lost Generation” in 1920s Europe, living off their trust funds, spending wildly and living decadently, engaging in orgies with 13-year-olds, and the such.
They did’t create any jobs because that liberal fuck Coolidge was taxing them into poverty.
Harry killed himself in 1929 and Caresse kept fucking away until 1970.
/ Thank you, Wikipedia
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:42 PM
to be honest, normally i lean towards mike’s side on these arguments.
just not when it’s a fucking golfer who NETS $25mm complaining about taxes. there’s a time and place for everything, and phil’s timing and placement was in poor taste.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Where this sense of entitlement comes from truly baffles the mind.
You know what I miss? Feudalism.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:43 PM
“Im not paying for poor moochers’ health care” says the rich person who pays double the insurance premium because he’d rather have his insurance company pass on to him the $15,000 cost of a bypass surgery on an unemployed poor person, rather than paying more directly the $10 a month in preventative costs.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:43 PM
I don’t think there are 2 million families in this country who actually eat that crap. Why he doesn’t cut the number down to a million, or even 100,000 is beyond me.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:44 PM
like the wealthy thinking their money is worth more than 99% of the populations money and they should be entitled to a lower tax rate than 99% of the population?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Right, but efficient government will always be a pipedream.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
cmon…ive offered my take on the tax thing before.
im slamming phil for coming off spoiled…he has a point, but in typical mickletits fashion, he tried to bite off more than he could chew and ended up with a nasty lie. if this were a business owner, like the whole foods CEO who was on NPR all last week, he’d have an excellent point…but he’s a fucking golfer, and even tho i see where he’s coming from, it’s not going to be well received.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
I agree with Mike NYC that people who get rich on the backs of poor people really do feel illogically entitled to give nothing back to them.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
I read “Atlas Shrugged” in my 20′s and came away with 2 conclusions (ideology aside):
1.) Ayn Rand is a bad writer.
2.) I have a high pain threshold for finishing that book.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
It’s those damn lollygaggers who want to “Be Like Mike”!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM
If taxes have to be raised, I’d rather raise taxes on the rich than the poor. It’s that simple.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:46 PM
I miss the good old days when companies like Enron and Andersen would collaborate to circumvent Obama’s initiatives.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:46 PM
That wasn’t directed at you, spencer.
Yep.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:46 PM
counterpoint…where this wholesale reluctance to help out fellow people baffles my mind.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Had you met her while in your 20s, you probably would have gotten laid right there.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Unless you own your own lemon grove and sugar cane farm, and have a sign outside your Lemonade Stand saying “57 Billion Serves” you probably didn’t get rich alone. So STFU.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:47 PM
they’ll all die of starvation first once their own personal stash of food will exhaust itself and no one will help each other.
that would be a great reality show, actually. each libertarian would be waging their own personal lord of the flies.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:47 PM
The free market banding together to not see either Atlas Shrugged movie renewed my faith in capitalism
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 PM
The Bible advocates the free market, not this liberal Obama soshial$sm bullshit like helping the less fortunate!
/ Rereads Bible, nods
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Hey, I snuck a reference to soshiali$m through the TBL Censor Monster!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:48 PM
I get that, but fall firmly in the “cut programs/spending” instead camp.
I get that too, but the percentage of people “who need help” is appalling.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Dude is paying — as you quoted — MORE THAN HALF of his earnings to “other people.”
But that’s not enough. It never will be. Remember, he’s not paying his fair share.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:49 PM
1.) Ayn Rand is a bad writer.
The sex/rape scene at the foot of the marble fireplace in The Fountainhead was pretty interesting. And by interesting I bet Rand diddled the bejesus out of herself while writing it in the hopes that Alan Greenspan would give her similar treatment.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:49 PM
if the poor story and dialogue didn’t clue you into that, the 66 page monologue at the end that blatantly restates the not so subtle symbolism through the story would.
I’ve never wanted to burn a book before reading Atlas Shrugged.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I think you have to do both, to pay down debt. But any time money is saved, it has to go back to the people.
There aren’t enough cuts to be made, government is too bloated. And it’s a gradual fix, not a ‘blow it up’ fix. So that’s where we are.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:51 PM
I’ve never wanted to burn a book before reading Atlas Shrugged.
kaisewilhelm=Officer Barbrady?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
The weird thing is that no one seems to be disagreeing with that point here but you keep repeating it…running out of material?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
I’ve never wanted to burn a book before reading Atlas Shrugged.
I take it you’ve never read “tree of smoke”
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
“Until you jack it to a 13 year old girl getting fucked by a sadistic pre-pubescent king, it doesn’t count”
- George R. R. Martin
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:52 PM
You see, the rich created everything they own totally by themselves, with no contribution from anyone else, especially the ones who did not in any way inherit a bunch of money from their rich families and are thereby entitled to dictate to the rest of us how we should just STFU and keep paying rising taxes that go to help major corporations retain their tax loopholes.
/ Donald Trump, the self-made man
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:53 PM
A book made of marijuana?
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:53 PM
personally, i think it’s only fair to pay a lil higher tax rate if you’re taking advantage of a country where you have the opportunity to make millions for playing a game and not have to do work that actually produces something worthwile.
the funny thing in all this is that phil is one of the most generous tour pros. if this were ian poulter or bubba watson saying this? id be a lot less kind.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:53 PM
wait…WEED BOOK?!!?!
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Any suggestions? Past four years there has been a huge decline in discretionary gov’t spending. Only things not been cut are defense, and Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:56 PM
This is getting into very subjective territory. How about corporate attorneys who produce nothing but a judgment?
/FWIW I’m team don’t judge what’s “worthwhile”
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Variable tax rates based on contribution to society… yes! I can’t wait where you take various professions and give them each a rate based on their usefulness.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
Unless you own your own lemon grove and sugar cane farm, and have a sign outside your Lemonade Stand saying “57 Billion Serves” you probably didn’t get rich alone. So STFU.
this is usually what tips the scale for me. the government sucks for rich people, but most of them got rich from the lower classes buying their goods or using their services.
i admire those who have the skills/luck/drive to get rich, i don’t admire their forgetting both or either how they made that wealth and whether they could do the same in the framework of a different country. if it’s so hard to be a rich person here, go be one somewhere more accomodating
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
What kills me about arguments like these is when one side derisively refers to the other side with derogatory generalizations (either rich, fat, white guys or ObamaPhone electorate). The fact of the matter is that neither side is 100% right on these issues and if you think that everyone that disagrees with you is stupid and delusional, then you need to take a step back and think things through because YOU are the sheep. The Occupy People: sheep. The MikeNYC crowd: sheep.
If everyone (especially our politicians) took some time to understand opposing viewpoints and make a genuine effort to concede when they are wrong and compromise when there is no clear right answer, this country could shed the gridlock and move forward.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:57 PM
The “Obamaphone Electorate” is Mike’s code for minorities, but yet he gets upset when it’s pointed out that Phil is white.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:58 PM
“Defense”, for starters. I’d say a ton of unnecessary govt workers too, but I understand I’m crasser than most in that regard.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:59 PM
There’s not enough to cut all at once. Taxes have to go up.
And before any complaints about doctors making too much, let me say that being around it, I have a new respect for how fucking hard it is to be a doctor, and how many years of your life you give up for training. So I’ll give a little more leeway to an MD making $300k complaining about taxes, when he went through (literally) 10+ years of training and an intense qualification process, and took on $200-300k in student loans, than I will for a dude who plays golf for a living.
January 22nd, 2013 at 1:59 PM
roarke49 is a fucking idiot, and obviously wrong.
/I think I may have read your comment incorrectly
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Taxes have to go up.
What’s it like to be a Satan worshiping communist who is causing the downfall of America?
/MikeNYC
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
That’s one interpretation. Could also be pro-welfare/social program people, but as roarke mentioned, people will assume the worst of their ideological opponents.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Mike does a good job of arguing the other side. I’m sure many are silent as a result.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
I agree with Roarke for the most part, considering the ones I’m calling an idiot, are the ones who are so wrapped up in their own viewpoint “protect guns!” that they refuse to see the effects of such a ban (very little, in reality).
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
If everyone (especially our politicians) took some time to understand opposing viewpoints and make a genuine effort to concede when they are wrong and compromise when there is no clear right answer, this country could shed the gridlock and move forward.
roarke, both sides know this. we have conceded it as a pipedream. if we cannot move forward, the rich will have an easier time of the status quo
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM
and his sponsors pay him extremely well for the commoners in the middle class to spend their money on the products pitched by Phil.
it’s a viscious cycle, you see. so in a way, phil is actually paying himself by paying so much in taxes.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Hey, I joined the liberal hall-of-fame last year. Don’t hate.
/is a conservative
//really
///hates almost all Republicans though
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I actually don’t get it. I just assume it is some special giveaway when you order a subscription to Sports Illustrated.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
DEA and their hopeless “War on Drugs”
TSA
Nasa
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
The White House was appraised at $285,000,000 on Zillow. Any chance to get a buyer?
/and we’re not replacing the fucking roof first
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
This is the truth. People who are reasonable realize this. However, you don’t drastically cut government spending in the middle of depressed consumer/corporate economy. Once the economy starts to put up consistent 3% GDP growth, then you begin to cut back.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
The taxation argument provides wonderful cover for the fed, the most under-discussed issue IMO
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:05 PM
don’t cut funding until the private sector space program really gets up and running.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:06 PM
I’m pro NASA, but the war on drugs is the worst policy since much of the new deal IMO
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:07 PM
/is a conservative
Allow me to run with this for a moment. I would assert that the terms “conservative” and “liberal” have become so watered down and overused by the mass media, the effect of which has seeped into the everyday conversations of many of us that these terms have very little meaning or connection to what they actually assert. Outside of George Will, the late William Buckley, the late Robert Bork, the late Arthur Schlesinger, the very alive Antonin Scalia, and a handful of others, I don’t trust most individual descriptions of what it really means to be either liberal or conservative.
That’s not meant to take away your self-identification as a conservative, but it’s merely something that came to mind.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Nasa
Cutting NASA would be a gigantic mistake. It pains me to see NASA where it is right now let alone with further cuts. Almost every major technological advancement of the last 50 years was a byproduct of the investment by the U.S. government in the Space Race (and by turn into NASA and its missions of exploration). Studying our atmosphere and the planets and space outside of it only helps us to understand more about Earth itself. And we can only be better off in the long run for the investment we put into that endeavor.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:10 PM
The White House was appraised at $285,000,000 on Zillow. Any chance to get a buyer?
/and we’re not replacing the fucking roof first
truman’s family wants a cut of sale profit
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
The greatest lie ever perpetrated on the American people. Let’s scale the balance sheet to represent the 2011 median family income.
U.S. Budget for Dummies:
* Annual family income: $50,502.00
* Family expenses: $88,902.14
* New debt on the credit card: $38,400.14
* Outstanding balance on the credit card: $332,126.29
* Total budget cuts so far: $896.00
The Obamabots want Mom & Dad to get a couple of more jobs to generate more revenue. Like that is going to make a significant impact.
The sane and economically-literate segment of the population, on the other hand, thinks it may be time for the children to cut down on the extravagant expenses.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
1) government should be as small as possible (while still accomplishing the roles and responsibilities deemed necessary)
2) taxes should be as low as possible, government should operate as cheaply as possible
It’s not taxes we can’t agree on, it’s the obligations.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
The Obamabots
In all seriousness, Mike, you seem like a smart, well-informed person and I greatly enjoy the fact that you have an alternate viewpoint from the majority of individuals here and that you are not shy about sharing it. But you really need to cut this shit out.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
I personally believe we have an obligation to ensure the health of all of the citizens in the US. I don’t think people should be turned away from hospitals. I don’t think people should die for lack of access to basic healthcare.
People aren’t really turned away now, but some want to basically spend more money on emergency care, to avoid any sort of “universal health care” because it’s “liberal”. I don’t understand it.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
This seems likely, actually.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
not worth it. i bought a house from an estate. they’re all fucking idiots.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:16 PM
roarke49 is Rodney King’s Pool Cleaners?
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM
1) government should be as small as possible (while still accomplishing the roles and responsibilities deemed necessary)
2) taxes should be as low as possible, government should operate as cheaply as possible
Certainly that would come across as conservative in the broad sense, but I would say that even within that descriptor there are further gradations: there are conservatives who care not at all about obligations of the government and would like to see cuts in spending with no simultaneous increase in taxes, no matter the damage this could potentially cause the economy, simply based on principle. And then there are conservatives who realize that its important to have principles to aim for but also recognize that compromise is worthwhile when it is impossible for those principles to be achieved unilaterally.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM
i wish i was golfing.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM
I believe there is an achievable universal standard of healthcare that will dramatically reduce ED and hospitalization costs. Mike NYC believes it’s better to pay higher costs, as long as it’s indirect so he can’t tell that he is paying them.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM
Whoa, wait a minute. Let’s not get nasty.
/I’ve been around way longer than that guy
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:19 PM
When is ms621 going to reveal his identity? Probably the one commenter here I interact with a lot and have no idea his name.
/though I assume it starts with “Le” or “De”
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Like I said before, got any suggestions besides decimating the social safety net?
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Forgot to add DOC as another area for cuts.
Good points on the NASA cuts, MS. They still cost too much per year IMO, but I get why it is beneficial to keep them well funded.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Rather than early release, can I suggest a one-way cruise to Australia?
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:22 PM
i wish i was golfing.
i wish i was eifling
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
I wish you were hitting .700 and tossing no-no’s still. We all have problems.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
When is ms621 going to reveal his identity? Probably the one commenter here I interact with a lot and have no idea his name.
There are approximately four people here who know my name and that’s the way I’d prefer it to stay. I’m not anyone special but I enjoy my anonymity.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Ms’ real name is on his Pinterest account.
I miss Rodney Kings Pool Cleaners. All those Romney guys sorta disappeared after November
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:26 PM
I don’t have anything to say politically, but let’s go ahead and keep the generalized shit talking about teachers to a minimum. When I see this I get very sad/angry for all the teachers trying to make a difference because they have something in them that cares.
They don’t have 3 months off and they don’t stop working at 2pm. Just stop.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:27 PM
Good points on the NASA cuts, MS. They still cost too much per year IMO, but I get why it is beneficial to keep them well funded.
I certainly agree that NASA could be more cost-efficient. Although the real budgetary crime is the Defense Department’s Acquisitions program. There are many examples of programs over the years which had run away costs and which the Pentagon allowed themselves to be led around by the nose by defense contractors over, but rather than name them all I’ll just invite anyone interested to Google “F-35 Joint Strike Fighter News”. That will give you a nice idea of how fucked up our system for developing and acquiring new weapons is.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:28 PM
There are approximately four people here who know my name and that’s the way I’d prefer it to stay. I’m not anyone special but I enjoy my anonymity.
you’ll be elated to know i can no longer find the e-mail exchange we had when i was asking for astros knowledge for a story i ended up not doing
so you;re still Grady to me
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:28 PM
To further translate for the dummies: You could double the tax revenue and still run a deficit. So tell me how 2-5% more in tax rates is going to solve this spending problem? Even Phil’s tax burden isn’t going to combat government’s spending addiction.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:29 PM
you’ll be elated to know i can no longer find the e-mail exchange we had when i was asking for astros knowledge for a story i ended up not doing
Three people then.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:29 PM
I wish you were hitting .700 and tossing no-no’s still.
you’re good. real good
/go see john carter
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
Remove 501(c) exemptions for all religious organizations. And there’s your fiscal crisis solved!
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
I’ll go Rufus. Sounds like a hilarious Texas name.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM
There are places we can cut (defense, DEA) but anyone deluding themselves into thinking that we can cut our way to prosperity really doesn’t belong in the conversation. Frankly, I would have liked to see Obama simply let the Bush tax cuts expire in full. The monkey fuck Congress wouldn’t have had to do anything, everyone except Obama – who can’t be relected – has political cover, and the tax burden hits everyone semi equally.
Cut where you can (NASA wouldn’t be on my list) and raise taxes to meet in the middle. This really shouldn’t be that hard.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Sounds like a hilarious Texas name.
but not black enough
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM
I don’t think this is a to-scale amount for defense spending
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:32 PM
THE ATTACK ON CHRISTMAS CONTINUES
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:32 PM
I imagine MS as someone from Killer Joe. Not sure which character yet.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Finally someone’s talking sense in here
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:33 PM
The ones I know stop at 3 and spend summers on the golf course. But honestly, with the shit that they have to put up with from asshole kids and their bigger asshole parents, I think they deserve it. Thankless job most of the time.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:34 PM
That war on Christmas: which side is winning? Haven’t seen an update recently. Casualties? Ground taken/lost? Troop counts? Disappointed in the lack of information.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Yessir!!!
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:37 PM
The ones I know work from 7am-6pm, sometimes longer, at least one day on the weekend, and only really have a few weeks off each summer (and it’s incredibly well deserved due to what you mentioned, among numerous other things). Not saying it’s across the board the hardest job in the world or that these friends of mine didn’t choose to get into their profession, but they certainly don’t need to be demeaned or lumped into the group of teachers that don’t give a shit and do a poor job.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Fuck right! Makes too much sense to ever happen.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
chicago for the record I wasn’t making fun of teachers
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
I worked one year as a teacher. I agree with a lot of Mike’s stuff, believe it or not, but the “lazy teacher” thing, in my personal experience, is bullshit.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:47 PM
I know dude. I think most of what I saw was reference to MikeNYC’s stuff. Most of what he has to say I think I actually value (although it gets a little blowhardy sometimes) even if I disagree with it, but the teacher thing really sets me off.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:47 PM
Man, during the Scott Walker unpleasantness of a couple years back you’d have thought every teacher was Mrs Krabappel to hear some people rant and rave
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Man, during the Scott Walker unpleasantness of a couple years back you’d have thought every teacher was Mrs Krabappel to hear some people rant and rave
Or in 2010 when as a candidate Chris Christie insulted teachers picketing his campaign rallies.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:53 PM
Here’s to them trying to one-up each other on the subject during a 2016 Republican debate!
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:55 PM
now that we’ve gotten all the political bullshit out of the way, anyone wanna talk flop shots?
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:56 PM
Sexiest shot in the game
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:57 PM
hmm…finding it hard to disagree.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:57 PM
anyone wanna talk flop shots?
Is this where you punch an old woman in the breasts?
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:58 PM
Really? I specifically went Rufus thinking it was black. Apparently I’m not up to snuff on my black Texan names.
January 22nd, 2013 at 2:59 PM
/lights cigarette
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:00 PM
I’ll revise my guess to Malcolm Smith.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:00 PM
now that we’ve gotten all the political bullshit out of the way, anyone wanna talk flop shots?
Phil has an awesome video on Youtube regarding flop shots.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:01 PM
he’s got at least a dozen on the flop tho my fav is still when he flops over dave pelz.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:02 PM
I can hit a quality flop shot, so I’ll disagree. I’m partial to the “stinger”.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:11 PM
that’s what came to mind, but the flop shot is a more languid, beautiful swing that parachutes down rather than the stinger whcih can be forceful and violent. i enjoy the trajectory of the stinger much more tho.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:12 PM
agree that doctors’ salaries should be doubled…no, wait…TRIPLED.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
sweet sand save > flop shot from rough
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:17 PM
i dunno…tiger’s flop at muirfield last year on 16 was incredible. it woulda been much easier from a bunker. but the sound guys like gary player or jose maria olazabal or trevino made from bunkers is just so purrdy.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:17 PM
agree that doctors’ salaries should be doubled…no, wait…TRIPLED.
No problem. We’ll just take it from engineers.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:20 PM
miz is a “tennessee and florida engineer” tho…he aint nothin’ more than a widdler with a t-square.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:20 PM
/literally has zero idea what miz does
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:24 PM
/literally has zero idea what miz does
Whatever it is I’m sure it involves knowledge of algebra and geometry that I lost a long, long time ago.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:26 PM
train driver.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:27 PM
good…so he’ll be able to calculate down to the cent how much money we’re going to steal from him.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:28 PM
I widdle* with a T-square.
*the fuck is “widdle”? whittle, maybe?
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:28 PM
nice, this is still going after my lunch break.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:29 PM
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/widdle
widdle [ˈwɪdəl] Brit informal
vb
(Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Physiology) (intr) to urinate
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:30 PM
I’m really ok with this plan.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:30 PM
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/widdle
widdle [ˈwɪdəl] Brit informal
vb
(Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Physiology) (intr) to urinate
Why do you piss on T-squares, miz? And how do you make money for doing so?
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:30 PM
yeha but you were talking sexy shots. the hack and hope from the rough is fine and all, but when you play most public courses in august that flop shot from behind the green in hardpan, it’s a brown bagger.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:31 PM
I’m really ok with this plan.
If I were in your position, I actually would also.
/team my wife makes more than me
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:31 PM
well shit…widdle apparently means “to urinate” according to the first google result i looked at without even checking where it was coming from.
big mistake on my part.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:31 PM
did you see how the t-square was dressed? it was asking for it. and people will pay to watch some sick shit, ms.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:31 PM
“This widdler’s building just fell down! Miz, it looks like…”
/sunglasses
“…urine trouble now”
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:32 PM
if that’s a qualifier…you play most public coruses and you got about a 67% chance of getting a bunker you can actually hit out of.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:33 PM
cute, not hot.
January 22nd, 2013 at 3:34 PM
victory for WWOS.
January 23rd, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Mickelson is full of shit. It’s not possible he is paying 62% unless his management is brain dead. The maximum marginal rate for federal will rise to 39.6. We all pay the same SS rate which tops out at 162k of income and we all pay the same medicare tax. Additionally, his state and local taxes are deductible from his Federal gross income and then if you add in what he gets for free from Callaway like the real value of private jet transportation and god only knows what else, there is no way possible Mr. Manboobs is paying anything close to the rate he mentions. If he is stupid enough to actually believe that’s what he pays he really is dumber than that deer caught in the headlights look that seems to be permanently plastered on his face.