Comments on: Manti Te’o Told ESPN He Wasn’t Part of the Hoax, But Many Questions Remain and Everyone is Still Skeptical

By: RolloTomassi14

RolloTomassi14 — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:51:28 +0000

This one just seems like a wholesome narrative to push his name as a character guy and it kind of got away from him just a tad

this sounds like the most rationale explanation of the entire ordeal.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:32:07 +0000

FWIW, I’m not saying he made up the dead gf to win awards I’m just combatting the Kekua-level delusion that says he was unknown before the season and I will continue to argue that he wasn’t on any Heisman lists before the season because he was obviously considered one of the novelty candidates that gets thrown in just to cover all bases.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:28:03 +0000

Like I said, he was a long, long shot. But that’s because he was a defensive player (see “The Heismandments” which were destroyed this season anyway by having a freshman win it) not because he was unknown.

By: Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah!

Benjamin Franklin Rodriguez has the highest WAR evah! — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:25:46 +0000

2. Manti Te’o, LB, Notre Dame – Te’o has put together a fine career for the Irish and his return for a fourth season was somewhat of a surprise. The face of the Notre Dame defense, he’ll be counted on to help make up for the loss of talented defensive end Aaron Lynch. Te’o had 128 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 5 sacks and a forced fumble in 2011. Playing for Notre Dame always helps when it comes to the Heisman race, so it’s possible he’ll get some votes.

He was listed as the second best defensive guy who would have a chance to affect the Heisman race, not as a guy who would have a chance to win it, and as the guy said, the name Notre Dame would help.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:25:29 +0000

I don’t think he has to be a lady’s man but he wasn’t a Collin Klein type, either. He might be a dorky guy but he was a pretty big name from his sophomore season on (apologies to whatever odd narrative it is that says a guy who was honorable mention All-America as a sophomore is unheralded) so it wouldn’t take much more than him just saying “OK” to get laid.

By: Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel

Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:19:47 +0000

If we’re all gonna believe the Notre Dame student letter, he was going around with girls on campus all the time. This one just seems like a wholesome narrative to push his name as a character guy and it kind of got away from him just a tad

Based on this phony relationship, I have a hard time seeing Manti as a lady’s man. But what the hell do I know as this point? Maybe he truly is and orchestrated this that he pounds chocolate milk like the Romney family and is holding out till marriage. I have no fucking clue.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:13:28 +0000

I think at first this relationship was created so he wouldn’t seem like a complete weirdo to his teammates for not having sex with broads

If we’re all gonna believe the Notre Dame student letter, he was going around with girls on campus all the time. This one just seems like a wholesome narrative to push his name as a character guy and it kind of got away from him just a tad

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:11:24 +0000

Let's just see what the bellweather Heisman writer had to say about Manti in early early early preseason for 2012:2. Manti Te’o, LB, Notre Dame – Te’o has put together a fine career for the Irish and his return for a fourth season was somewhat of a surprise. The face of the Notre Dame defense, he’ll be counted on to help make up for the loss of talented defensive end Aaron Lynch. Te’o had 128 tackles, 13.5 tackles for loss, 5 sacks and a forced fumble in 2011. Playing for Notre Dame always helps when it comes to the Heisman race, so it’s possible he’ll get some votes.

By: Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel

Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:07:25 +0000

Do I think Manti did this with the Heisman on this mind? No. I think at first this relationship was created so he wouldn’t seem like a complete weirdo to his teammates for not having sex with broads and when this tragic relationship was leaked to the press because he’s a narcissist that adored the attention from the national media he took this storyline that he helped create and ran with it for as long as possible. This is on him for either being an asshole or a total rube.

By: Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel

Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:59:33 +0000

Whatever works for your narrative.

Its not like Notre Dame doesn’t have a recent history of gaining national attention after a few big starts. By the time of the MSU game, ND was back on the radar.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:56:00 +0000

Whatever works for your narrative.

I’m not really sure what it helps in your head to think he was a no-name. He was a 2nd team All-American in 2011

By: kazzythekid

kazzythekid — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:47:45 +0000

This isn’t really true on either count, btw. He was pimped as a dark horse Heisman candidate before this season and last season, it was just considered a long, long shot. And he considered going pro last year because he was a borderline 1st rounder then.

Whatever works for your narrative.

By: starkweather

starkweather — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:12:49 +0000

Manti wasn’t on any radar as a pro prospect or Heisman candidate till this year.

This isn’t really true on either count, btw. He was pimped as a dark horse Heisman candidate before this season and last season, it was just considered a long, long shot. And he considered going pro last year because he was a borderline 1st rounder then.

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:51:18 +0000

The other thing is that back in 1999, it was a lot harder to check up on stuff. Is “google.com” blocked on the Notre Dame campus? Does the Notre Dame President only allow the internet in Latin?

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:47:57 +0000

After the drug dealer call on Dec. 6th, did you keep telling the media about the fake/dead girlfriend because you were just in too deep?

I think once you are that deep you have a rehearsed story, you don’t know what to do. If he answered the questions just repeating facts, wishing it would all go away, I can see it. If he continued to expand on the story, it’s a lot less defensible.

The biggest problem I have is that I expect this from a 14 year old. The amount of sketchiness going on with AOL IM when I was in high school (late 1990′s) is crazy. By the time you are in college, you should be able to see this a little better.

By: Liquor

Liquor — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:35:52 +0000

Penn State’d

No no no, you see that “culture” issue was only at Penn State, nowhere else, I took care of it.

/Fuckface Emmert’d

By: Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel

Blue Horseshoe Loves Anacott Steel — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:19:06 +0000

That said, the degree to which football is king in South Bend is scary an sickening. Also, the level of denial that my friends and family are in is downright stunning

When do the students break out the leis again?

By: PurdueMatt

PurdueMatt — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:13:42 +0000

Why can’t people consider that Te’o is a pathological liar with some deep seeded emotional issues?

By: sctrojans

sctrojans — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:05:45 +0000

That said, the degree to which football is king in South Bend is scary an sickening. Also, the level of denial that my friends and family are in is downright stunning

/Penn State’d

By: PurdueMatt

PurdueMatt — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:58:29 +0000

I’ve lived in Indiana all my life (spare me the jokes). I have family and friends that are ND Alums and fans. I go to South Bend every 2 years for the Purdue game. That said, the degree to which football is king in South Bend is scary an sickening. Also, the level of denial that my friends and family are in is downright stunning.