Pete Carroll Made the Clear Right Call in Trying for Another Hail Mary Against Atlanta
This weekend featured lots of interesting strategy calls, from far more traditional fourth down decisions to Mike Smith not choosing to go for two after two consecutive offsides would have put it 18 inches away from the goal, and his team up 19 at the time. Then, there was the rare decision facing Pete Carroll at the end of the wild game in Atlanta–try for a record setting field goal attempt from 65 yards, or throw a hail mary pass with Russell Wilson. It’s rare because it requires both that the team be in that no man’s land of a really long field goal attempt, and have a score margin where the decision is legitimate.
We often chide coaches for decisions, so here, I’m going to say that even though the longshot did not pay off this time, Carroll made the clear right decision by attempting the hail mary.
People have asked me what the chances of the hail mary were. That’s a hard question to answer specifically, but we can try, using play by play data. The difficulty is identifying whether the quarterback was attempting a throw to the end zone based on the description. I pulled all cases since 2000 where (a) a team was tied or trailing by one score with 7 seconds or less remaining, (b) had the ball between their own 45 and the opponent’s 40, and (c) did not run another play, or throw a shorter pass as noted by the play by play. If the description did not note it as a deep pass or short pass, I included it. I also included all sacks in these situations.
Only 64 cases that fit all of those criteria have happened since 2000, including Sunday. Seven resulted in sacks, ten of them were intercepted, and four were caught, with three of those being caught for touchdowns. Those successful hail mary passes were Tim Couch to Quincy Morgan for 50 yards against Jacksonville, David Garrard to Mike Thomas for 50 yards against Houston, and Shaun Hill to Titus Young for 46 yards against Tennessee. The unsuccessful attempt that was caught just short traveled 49 yards (needing 53) from Ben Roethlisberger.
Using that, the likelihood of a successful hail mary from the Atlanta 47 was about 5-6%. The question is then whether Seattle had anywhere near that by trying the field goal.
The problem with just looking at field goal rates for kicks above 60 yards is that no one has made a 65 yard attempt ever, and there is even a selection bias problem in who gets to attempt them. Sebastian Janikowski has attempted more than anyone. Rob Bironas has tried several. Greg Zuerlein tried two really long ones unsuccessfully this year. Aging kickers with weaker legs don’t get to even try, to pull the percentages down even further. Thus, me telling you that kickers went 3 of 11 on kicks of 62-63 yards, and 0 for 11 from 64 to 66 yards provides little.
Ryan Longwell is 38 years old and had not played all year. Kudos for not trying the impossible with him. You might be tempted to think that the dome changes this, but actually, the longest kicks have all come outdoors anyway, in temperate weather. The controlled conditions of domes are good for long field goal attempts of 50 yards (like Bryant nailed to give Atlanta the lead). The holds are easier, the planting is easier, the weather is stable. However, for a really long kick, it actually helps to be wind aided and have air conditions that will allow more carry. To illustrate, only four kicks over 55 yards have even been attempted in Atlanta since 2000. Michael Koenen (58 yards) and Mason Crosby (56 yards) are the only two who have made a kick that long in the Georgia Dome.
I don’t think Ryan Longwell was the kicker to challenge the all-time record, and to get a kick seven yards longer than any other in the same arena. We’ll never know what Longwell’s range was, though Carroll likely had a good estimate from warmups and practices. I’m guessing it was not close to 65 yards, and the chances were basically nil. Every yard gained would have also impacted the likelihood of a successful touchdown pass, and I suspect they had to get at least 10 more yards, perhaps a few more, to make it a truly difficult decision.
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January 14th, 2013 at 5:43 PM
You might be tempted to think that the dome changes this, but actually, the longest kicks have all come outdoors anyway, in temperate weather.
Side question: how many of them have been in Denver or at altitude? Janikowski’s record tying kick was in Denver if I’m not mistaken.
January 14th, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Should have taken 3 points in the first quarter.
January 14th, 2013 at 5:57 PM
Should have run a better play to get more yards before the choice had to be made.
January 14th, 2013 at 5:59 PM
But he’s loose Pete Carroll. He’s just a cool guy out there to have some fun
January 14th, 2013 at 6:00 PM
There was another Pittsburgh one in 2002. Tommy Maddox completed a Hail Mary to Plaxico Burress, who was tackled just short of the end zone on the last play in overtime. Game ended in a tie.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:04 PM
Tommy Maddox
Have not seen that name in quite a long time.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:09 PM
Found this interesting: Seahawks missed a 61 yarder with 8 seconds left.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Agreed, this decision confirms that Carroll is a world class jackass.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:23 PM
How? By kicking a 75 yarder? Seatttle never crossed the 50 in the 1st quarter.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:30 PM
I’m sorry, the statement we were looking for was “Pete Carroll Made the Clear Right Call in Saying Sanchez Wasn’t Ready for the NFL.”
January 14th, 2013 at 6:31 PM
Tom Dempsey’s was below sea level.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:33 PM
Morten Andersen could have pulled it off (as he did sometimes in warmups), but Bum Phillips preferred to punt from outside the opponent’s 30, and Jim Mora/Carl Smith did not believe in offensive football.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:43 PM
A few notes:
-Longwell wasnt even pissed about the non-chance from what I saw on TV
-Who did the kickoffs for SEA? Some teams try to use a punter for desperation kicks if the punter (often a former high school FG kicker too) can try these.
-Long pass does bring into account a potential pass interference.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:45 PM
Those successful hail mary passes were Tim Couch to Quincy Morgan for 50 yards against Jacksonville
This was an amazing game. Gerard Warren effectively ended the Mark Brunell in Jacksonville era with a shot after an INT. Browns did the pick, scored. They then pulled off the crazy, line one guy up on one side (now not allowed) – faked the kick to the side with 8 guys, swing the leg around and kick it to the near side. Dennis Northcutt got the squib on an amazing kick from Phil Dawson. The greatest executed onsides kick I’ve ever seen.
January 14th, 2013 at 6:50 PM
Blair Walsh farts in the general direction of a 65 yard field goal.
/it’s good
January 14th, 2013 at 6:58 PM
Was at that game and Seahawks, and most were curious why they went for a FG that wasn’t anywhere near close to being good.
That game was almost exactly like yesterday’s game (weirdly so – get down big, come back and almost win it) with the exception that the almighty Tavaris Jackson was at the helm. Because of that wasn’t surprised Carroll tried the hail mary. If they had Hauschka I could have seen them try, but doubt it.
January 14th, 2013 at 7:14 PM
I am very impressed with Russell Wilson. Loved watching him during his NC State days. He is going to be a stud.
January 14th, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Lisk, how long did it take you to pull this data? And where did you get it from?
January 14th, 2013 at 8:05 PM
People actually thought they should have tried a FG?
Longwell was just signed this week, and as Packers and Viking fans can attest to, range wasnt his strength. Good kicker til about 50+.
January 14th, 2013 at 8:33 PM
The right answer was get the field goal in the first half instead of going for it on 4th and 1 and not making it then allowing Atlanta to get a TD right after. That was an assholian 10 point swing in which we can agree affected the outcome of the game.