Mike Westhoff on Tim Tebow: “It was a mess … a distraction … I’m still waiting for the unveiling” [Audio]
Mike Westhoff, the colorful special teams coach of the Jets who rose to national fame on Hard Knocks a few years ago, decided to retire last month.
This morning, Westhoff was the Joe Rose Show (560 WQAM) and offered up his thoughts on what happened with Tim Tebow in New York last season. You can listen to the audio here;
Retired Jets special teams coach Mike Westhoff takes shots at Tim Tebow [Audio]
I’ve pulled the best quotes below:
It was a mess. An absolute mess … I was very, very disappointed.
If you incorporate [Tebow] in different facets of your offense, I think he can be a factor. That’s what I felt we were going to do, but we never did. We would put him in for a play … I was expecting to see him line up in a couple roles … H-back, tight end … we didn’t do it.
My role with him was going to be 1%. But when Eric Smith got hurt, I had to use [Tebow] full-time. Most of the stuff he did for me, he did outstanding. But it was only supposed to be a fraction [of his overall duties].
I don’t think anyone has answered that question. I know we didn’t practice it in training camp … I’m still waiting for the unveiling.
It was a distraction, and really a shame. that’s a hard working young man.
Welp … this confirms what every Jets fan knew months ago: The only one who wanted Tim Tebow in New York was the team’s greedy owner, Woody Johnson. He used Tim Tebow to garner headlines and media coverage and sell tickets. As we noted all season, it was painfully clear that Rex Ryan wanted no part of Tebow. And offensive coordinator Tony Sparano – he was fired this week – was clueless on what to do with Tebow, too (even though Sparano raved about him at the Senior Bowl a few years ago).
Those two trips to the AFC title game feel like an eternity ago. The Jets are back to being … the Jets. The GM search has been a disaster. They don’t have an offensive coordinator yet. Is the 2013 tank plan being implemented by the owner in hopes of landing Jadeveon Clowney first in 2014? I wouldn’t mind that. Seriously.
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January 11th, 2013 at 10:39 AM
Where does he take a shot at Tebow? ” Most of the stuff he did for me, he did outstanding. But it was only supposed to be a fraction [of his overall duties]. It was a distraction, and really a shame. that’s a hard working young man.”
Shots?
January 11th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Big fan of this guy’s arm hair and hair style, tells me he likes to party.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Why is it that 99% of dudes with insane arm hair like that ALWAYS wear a watch?
January 11th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Ha.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
amen.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Dude he went retrograde all over Timmy T.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
I would still support Tebow to the Pats.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Actually he compliments Tim Tebow.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
I thought the same thing…Westhoff is pretty much defending, doing the absolute opposite of taking shits at him.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
If Tebow could self evaluate and accept that he’s not a QB, I’d want Atlanta to sign him as an H-back/FB guy to be the bull on 3rd and 1 (something ATL is criminally bad at). I think he’d be great in that role.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:48 AM
I laughed.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:48 AM
You get more page views when you make stuff up. That’s what happens when you have a TMZ-esque background.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Doug Flutie 2.0′s destiny is with the Toronto Argonauts, then eventually with the Buffalo Bills. Make it so.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
I’m gonna be honest with everyone, I’m still not over the fact that the spider video from the roundup was in someone’s house.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Yeah, this isn’t ‘shots’ and certainly doesn’t make me think I was wrong yesterday when I said he could still have value as a backup/situational QB (and other roles, if he’s willing to adapt). If you have a strong FO that won’t get sucked in by bloggy bullshit, there’s no reason his career should be ‘over’.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:50 AM
I’m shocked this guy was a molester. Shocked.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Another Jets post? Good god.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:51 AM
So they can get that look like the face of the watch is floating on their wrist as the watch band is lost in the jungle of hair.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:51 AM
/checks RoundUp
//vomits
///vomits again
January 11th, 2013 at 10:52 AM
That’s a chain link band. There’s no way he has any hair left underneath that bad boy.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:53 AM
That’s the shocking part…
January 11th, 2013 at 10:54 AM
he only one who wanted Tim Tebow in New York was the team’s greedy owner, Woody Johnson. He used Tim Tebow to garner headlines and media coverage and sell tickets.
and this is why you don’t trade for Tebow if you’re Jacksonville. You might sell tickets, but then you’re expected to start him!
January 11th, 2013 at 10:55 AM
praise = shots
color = cum
/and the beat goes on
January 11th, 2013 at 10:58 AM
I don’t think Tebow will ever be a quarterback but I kind of feel bad for him. Dude needs to move to special teams gunner. He could be like Bryan Braman of the Texans.
January 11th, 2013 at 10:59 AM
hair gel on a 60yo guy = six pack on a grandma
January 11th, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Would you like to come see about my nuts? I’ve got a great selection of Brazil nuts, fresh in from Mexico. You look. I make you deal.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:00 AM
I like the thinking that any NFL franchises – much less one near New York – has to resort to the sort of thing a minor league baseball team would to generate interest
January 11th, 2013 at 11:00 AM
I also think it’s important to note that whatever Tebow’s future as a 2nd or 3rd string QB, I refuse to judge it based on his use and success with the Jets. Look how good they developed Mark Sanchez, who has actually regressed since his rookie year. I’m not taking their opinion on any QB or his ability to play in the NFL.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:02 AM
As someone brought up yesterday, Canada’s a passing league so he’d be even worse off there…his best hope is to find a way to play football in 1925
January 11th, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Serious question: how many QBs that started a game this year could Tebow have done better than? Gabbert, Webb, Sanchez, the entire AZ roster… anyone else?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Running those team’s systems? Maybe not even that many. The Tebow problem isn’t just that he sucks at playing his position. It’s also that you have to completely change everything you do to suit his skill set. That means an organization-wide change that is not worth doing because he’s not that good. if he was the Tom Brady of run-first QBs I could understand it, but he’s just not that good.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:07 AM
We just rehabbed another house and put it up for sale/lease. First day, we get kind of a lowball all cash offer and ask them for proof of funds. They sent us a bank statement with $19 million dollars in it. I guess they can afford the house.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:07 AM
let’s treat this guy like any other 75th guy on the roster that we never think about. ok? BREAK!
January 11th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Gabbert, Webb, not Sanchez, maybe the Arizona guys.
I agree with you that Tebow can be a backup in the league, given how awful many of the starters even are. However, two teams that have had three years to work with him have quit on him, and he brings a media circus that nobody needs. I just don’t see the benefit in going after him.
Also price is an issue. Someone correct me if I’m wrong here, but Tebow made this year what Joe Webb’s entire contract pays him over four, right?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:09 AM
see, i disagree that it’s not worth try and can’t be successful. there will always be a place for a power, clock controlling element in football, even with high flying offenses, and he’d be one of the better guys to run it. as long as he’s paired with a good defense, i dont see why it couldnt work.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Must be nice.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:09 AM
This is really a good point, and one Rex made. Hard to start Tebow all the sudden. This is why he’d be better as a situational/package QB. Can change it up, but you’d also have plays to run in case he has to start due to injury.
Washington, with an injured running QB and a good running game would be a good fit, you know, if they could teach him to throw better than Rex Ryan could.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:10 AM
The fact that it was notarized by the Nigerian Consulate doesn’t worry you?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:11 AM
It could be successful with another QB. I just don’t think he can be successful over the long term.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:11 AM
I troll so rarely here… you can’t give me that one? Even after “butt fumble”?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Tebow, Peterson, Harvin, Gerhart and that offensive line, and you’ll get 300 yards rushing every game.
/or not
January 11th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
If they have 19 million why do they need to lowball? Is the lowball offer equate to the same net profit as dealing with costs of fiancing process? I’ll hang up the phone and listen.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
It’s the second time they’ve made a lowball offer on one of our houses. The last time we countered and they said “See ya’”. I guess there’s a lot of money to be made that way. We may take this one.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:13 AM
More like, Roddy, Julio, Harry Douglas and then Tebow as an H-back/lead blocking FB. ATL would put up 30 a game.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Let’s see the quality of your work man, pics of the rehabbed house.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Still need to be able to complete passes at some point…Seattle is more or less running what you’re talking about but it works there because the QB isn’t terrible
January 11th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Obama
/political grenade
//runs
January 11th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Exactly. I’m not saying that system can’t work. I’m saying Tebow can’t work.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Tebow had a cap hit of OVER $4 million this year (down to 2.58 next year)
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york-jets/tim-tebow/
January 11th, 2013 at 11:17 AM
I see Pat Fitzgerald is among the idiots-who-don’t-get-it group of CFB coaches.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:18 AM
How do you think they ended up wtih $19 million? By not overpaying for shit.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:19 AM
My partner does all the work. I just collect the profits. Actually, he hires people to do most of the work. There’s a ton of cheap labor here. We didn’t put much into this one, but only bought it for high thirties.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:20 AM
The bars on the windows are classy.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:20 AM
He’s not really good at holding onto the football, though.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
it’s easy to complete passes when your run game is so strong, it brings safeties up. see: playoffs vs. PIT.
it can work. it’d take organization-wide restructuring, but it can def work, even with tebow. and it’s not like he can’t improve his passing…he just can’t improve it with the shitty jets.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Well, there was a midget on the sideline at that one game the other day. That’s very Veeck-esque.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
We only buy properties in the hood. Usually rent them out, and a lot of the tenants actually like the burglar bars. This neighborhood is quite sketchy.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Jesus Christ.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:22 AM
Russell Wilson is everything Tebow isn’t: Fast, accurate and smart with the football. That’s why he’s having as much success as he is and Tebow can’t find work.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:23 AM
I’m of the mind that he can’t improve it nearly enough.
Tell me you’re a slum lord. That would be awesome.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:24 AM
In Rand McNally, hamburgers eat people, and Weeden and Tebow are the two most talented young quarterbacks in football.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Site is eating comments again, unless I triggered one of the secret code words
January 11th, 2013 at 11:25 AM
That’s the goal. Don’t own enough to be a true slumlord yet.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
They got bars on the windows,
Bars on the doors
Man they even got bars on the floors
DMZ in my neighborhood
My neighborhood is a DMZ
January 11th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
He’s a hard worker from all acounts and this is as good as he’s gotten…might be time to let this dream die
January 11th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
standard rebab there hopefully you can turn that around there quick, Sick Danny Yu on them. Somebody with a dog will buy it for that yard.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Legendary coach?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Rich people usually are rich because they’ve shown a consistent ability to find value and not needlessly spent money.
I’m actually hoping we’ve built enough equity in our house to refinance out of the mortgage insurance payment we have to make. Prob have to switch banks though to get a higher appraisal.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Better get started if you want to be an NBA owner by the time you’re 50.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:27 AM
what’s the lowball on that $58? I’m guessing you’d settle for $71 but you know somebody’s coming in at $68.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:28 AM
“Nuh uh! It’s like, way hard!” – Christian Ponder
January 11th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
An $89,000 house with 4 bedrooms.
!
January 11th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
They actually offered $75 cash. I think we’re gonna’ take it ‘cuz we can basically buy 2 houses with that. We got another offer for full price, but they can only put 8K down. We would owner finance at 9.5%. We’ve done one of those deals in the past, but we’re cash strapped right now.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Maybe someone can help me with this…
we bought our house for about 10% below the appraisal because of the stuff that needed to be fixed, with a small down payment, meaning mortgage insurance takes $200 a month or something. The appraisal was very conservative (about 75% of the tax appraisal) and we have made some improvements, though more cosmetic than anything, except the deck.
If we can get an appraisal showing we have 20% equity in the house, can we refinance, and basically have a new payment that excludes the mortgage insurance payment?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Yeah, but it’s the Douglases’ house from Green Acres. The closets open to the barnyard, and the phone’s on a pole atop the house.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:34 AM
I think Ponder is redeemable. At least with low YPA, he had high comp %. He’s at least not Gabbert. And I’d take him over Sanchez (seriously, not trolling) going forward with a good QB coach.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:36 AM
75 cash is a good deal I dont think that’s lowball. That’s low, yes. Good luck on the closure.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
Pretty sure WWoS. Once you have 20% down you dont need the PMI.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
I don’t know the answer to your mortgage insurance question, but I hope you’ve protested your tax appraisal. At least in Houston, it’s super easy to win them if you’ve got some data behind you.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
My neighborhood is a DMZ
Nada – tell me that ain’t a Dash Rip Rock lyric?
Used to catch them at the Chimes when Fred was still playing drums!
January 11th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Waiting to see if I get residency here. If we have to move, I’m going to list it for tax appraisal. If I stay here long-term, I’ll protest. Taxes suck, but the $500 a year isn’t worth the difference if we have to put it on the market in two years.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:45 AM
By ‘down’ you mean 20% ownership… if our house was $100k
House bank appraised at 100
we bought for 90
we owe 80 still
So can we rather than wait till we owe 80% of the 90, can we refinance and basically get an $80k loan with no down since we own 20% of the house?
January 11th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
yeah 20% of actual value.
January 11th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
I think we will pay off our closing costs to re-fi in less than a year based on our PMI savings. Assuming we think we can get a slightly higher appraisal, it’s a no-brainer.
Just tough since we’ve only had the house 14 months.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:08 PM
I believe so.
January 11th, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Indeed it is.
I also used to catch them at The Chimes — when Marty was still the drummer!
January 11th, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Their owner is Woody Johnson. I assure you he thinks this way. Probably the least competent NFL owner I can remember
January 11th, 2013 at 12:47 PM
/Changes last name to precious metal