i just don’t think he has worked hard enough in the pros. Tim is a nice guy but when he got to NY, he was more concerned with the publicity, etc. Perhaps that is partially the fault of his agent and his inner circle, but I feel TT knows exactly what he is doing. If he really cared about playing football, he would have improved his skills over the years.

The dude put on 20lbs of muscle in the off season to be more durable in the running game. At Florida ESPN had a segment about him working with a QB guru too clean up his mechanics. Hard work has never been the kids problem. Sometimes mechanics can’t be fixed no matter how hard you work. Nobody could change Vince Young or Byron Leftwich. I haven’t seen any progress from Braxton Miller or countless other uber athlete arm punters. Hell neither the Broncos or mighty Shannahan could ever teach Elway proper mechanics or the ability to throw a football with any semblance of touch. In fact the only two positive examples I can think of are Vick and RGIII and both of those guys had a natural throwing motion where the change came from footwork improvement. This isn’t just a QB issue either. How many flame throwing pitchers never pan out because they never learn to locate? Two years ago Derek Jeter tried to tweak his swing to quicken up and compensate for his declining natural skills. Dude worked all off season only to abandon that shit and go back to what was natural a couple weeks into the season. Undoing decades of muscle memory is insanely difficult, even for the hardest workers. Tebow just doesn’t have the skill set necessary to play in he NFL and no amount of hard work is going to change that.

Maurice Jones-Drew would put a shiv in him during training camp

And then proceed to throw more accurate passes with a better delivery.

He just isnt very good and doesnt seem to want to learn to fix his mechanical issues

because noone ever had the balls to tell him otherwise, especially Urban who doesn’t actually care about the QB position

That said, that Bronco defense was highly overrated last year.

So I’ve pointed out that Jacksonvile has empty seats, lousy QBs, and a lousy draft for QB’s this year

if you think the stadium would sell out solely due to Tebow being on the team, you’re smoking some awesome rock.

Against the Vikings with no AP and a rookie QB, gave up 32

Against the Pats, gave up 41

Against the Lions, gave up 38

Against the Packers, gave up 49

Yean, insanely good Bronco defense!

I get what you’re saying, but during “Tebow’s” winning games, the defense gave up 24 to Oakland, 10 to Kansas City, 13 to NYJ, 13 to San Diego, 32 to Minnesota and 10 to Chicago. So while it probably is a mistake to say the Broncos defense is great, the Broncos did not win those games because Tebow was exactly lighting it up.

-Ranked 20th in yards allowed per game
-9th worst in points allowed per game
-18th in rushing yards allowed per game
-15th in passing yards allowed per game