Tommy Tuberville, the New Cincinnati Coach, Has Already Pissed off a Powerful High School Football Program in Ohio
Tommy Tuberville, last seen leaving recruits at a dinner table in Lubbock, is not off to the best start in Cincinnati. The Bearcats’ previous coach Butch Jones, recruited one of the best QBs in Ohio, Kyle Kempt, to play for Cincinnati. Kempt, who carries a 4.4 GPA, picked the Bearcats over Tennessee and West Virginia among others.
Worth noting: Butch Jones left for Tennessee last month.
Anyway, Tuberville sauntered into town and depending on whom you believe, appears to have pulled Kempt’s scholarship offer. From Friday Night Ohio:
Kempt either decommitted from Cincinnati or Tuberville pulled the offer Jones made to him.
It would seem the latter may be the case judging by Hall’s reaction.
“It was an ugly situation,” Hall said. “I think they thought he was going to go to Tennessee with Butch Jones and they offered another quarterback. But that wasn’t the case. Cincinnati will not be allowed back in Massillon on our campus as long as Jason Hall is in Massillon.”
It could be a big mistake by Tuberville. He came to Cincinnati from Texas Tech. Tuberville is a coach from the south and making his first head coaching stop in the Midwest.
Snubbing one of the top high school football programs in a new state probably isn’t the best way to start off a new career.
Don’t you love it when high school football coaches speak in the 3rd person? Enjoy the power trip, Jason Hall. [via Friday Night Ohio]
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January 9th, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Jason Hall is a very good football coach actually and they dont fuck around in Massilon. I know him as he started coaching at Brush which is in the school district I live in. This is nothing to sneeze at. Lloyd Carr fucked around with Pierre Woods and jerked around a number of other guys and Ted Ginn Sr. had a lot of the Cleveland area coaches tell Lloyd to fuck off.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:49 PM
High school coach going 3rd person, huh? What a douche.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:52 PM
High school coaches are just about the worst cats around, but anytime Tubs looks like a fool I’m down. In other recruiting news, poor Tennessee.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Tough break Tommy.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:53 PM
So now he follows Jones to Tennessee, problem solved.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:55 PM
Great documentary about Massilon football, is crazy.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:59 PM
So he’s the Nick Saban of Ohio high school football.
January 9th, 2013 at 12:59 PM
I was last at Paul Brown stadium to see Mario Manningham and Warren beat Zwick and Massilon. Probably 18-0k plus there. I think they have an actual tiger there.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Kempt, who carries a 4.4 GPA, picked the Bearcats over Tennessee and West Virginia among others
So now he follows Jones to Tennessee, problem solved.
This was my thought as well. This is a kid and his coach having a shit fit because they can. It’s a well recognized fact that an incoming coach is under no obligation to honor the pre-LOI scholarship offers of the outgoing coach. Any high school coach who presumes otherwise is either an idiot or not being honest with himself.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Well hey good thing nothing bad has ever happened from Ohio football programs having too much influence.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
@ms: what’s your opinion on this?
January 9th, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Massillon sounds like the Ohio version of Allen High in Texas, which built a $60 million, 18,000-seat stadium at the same time the school district was laying off teachers.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:04 PM
Massilon’s entire team could gang-rape a room full of nuns, post it to their Facebook pages and send a notarized copy to Deadspin and the town would say, “Boys will be boys.”.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:04 PM
yeah, Massillon is a huge program. I know a retired guy who lives in upstate NY that still listens to Massilon football games online
January 9th, 2013 at 1:04 PM
We do our learn’n on the field, hoss.
/spits chew
//rubs balls
January 9th, 2013 at 1:05 PM
I laughed.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:05 PM
It’s a well recognized fact that an incoming coach is under no obligation to honor the pre-LOI scholarship offers of the outgoing coach
So, good move to alienate the high school coaches in one of your recruiting hotbeds. No, that’s dumb as shit. Maybe he thinks he’s just going to use all his other recruiting ties and JUCOS. Whe knows.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:06 PM
I was kind of hoping that the high school program was Steubenville, and that Tuberville pissed them off by revealing that he was Anonymous. but nope, just some dumb posturing by a high school coach. oh well.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:08 PM
For those not aware, Paul Brown played his high school ball there, before becoming the team’s coach, later going on to coach the Buckeyes, Browns, and Bengals. It’s the epicenter. Also, the school of Chris Spielman. Bad move, Tuberville…
January 9th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
@ms: what’s your opinion on this?
St. Bear, I just skimmed the article and will have to read it more closely later. But on the surface I have no issue with this. Too many people get wound up with the age of the malts in the batch. The age statement is the age of the youngest malt in there and so it doesn’t even fully explain the malt you are drinking.
Johnnie Walker does not put age statements on their bottles and no one seems to care. People need to enjoy the scotch for what it is and not for what the label tells them.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Just wikipediaed Massillon HS…surprised that its enrollment is only 1200-ish. Are they in the highest classification in the state? (I realize that not every state does this by enrollment).
January 9th, 2013 at 1:12 PM
So, good move to alienate the high school coaches in one of your recruiting hotbeds. No, that’s dumb as shit. Maybe he thinks he’s just going to use all his other recruiting ties and JUCOS. Whe knows.
As I said, if the coach didn’t consider this a possibility when a new staff moved in then he’s an idiot. This is posturing by him and nothing else. Does it suck for Tuberville? Absolutely, but there is nothing inherently wrong with him doing pulling the kids scholarship offer before the LOI is signed. The distinction between those two points is an important one.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:13 PM
Agree, but I think it’s a little different for blends very single malts, at least in perception.
I found the article really interesting, especially when he brought up how in a few years, colour (!) could be the new age, and you’d end up in the same spot you’re in now.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:13 PM
/James Carville in Old school: Oh.I.we..have no response. That was perfect.
//wipes away tear
January 9th, 2013 at 1:14 PM
They’re in Division II. In Ohio, we go by number of boys per school to figure out division slotting.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Massilon has the biggest BDubs I’ve ever seen.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
No way 1200 is the highest enrollment in the state. There are some schools down here with like 3,500.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:15 PM
Agree, but I think it’s a little different for blends very single malts, at least in perception.
I found the article really interesting, especially when he brought up how in a few years, colour (!) could be the new age, and you’d end up in the same spot you’re in now.
I love the idea of color being a primary identifier.
And yes certainly blends are different from single malts in this regard, but if there is one thing I think this will curb it is pretentious assholes loudly ordering or purchasing a specific bottle or type of scotch simply because of the age statement on the label.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:16 PM
/blind taste test where people can’t differentiate swill from top shelf
January 9th, 2013 at 1:17 PM
He was no good anyway.
/message board’d
January 9th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Yeah, the high school where I taught had a 3500 enrollment and it was only the 18th largest in the state.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
/blind taste test where people can’t differentiate swill from top shelf
I’m sure Rex can speak more about this, but outside of a trained sommelier most people cannot identify quality let alone vintage in a blind taste test. All the more reason that people should drink what they enjoy and not what they think others will think is good.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
Come to Columbus and I’ll buy you a beer at the one near The Shoe, at Land and High.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
I’m certainly going to have to do my homework more thoroughly.
This came about because I got 2 bottles of Macallan 15yo Fine Oak Blend (outstanding BTW) from co-workers. One of the guys commented how they had some bottles without ages on them, I searched and voila.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:18 PM
William F Buckley strongly disagrees as rich people have superior taste buds due to Jesus and so forth.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Htown, in Ohio they are division 1. The enrollment range for division 1, though, is wide. 494 and up is enrollment range to be in classification for division 1 in ohio high school football
January 9th, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Few things crack me up more than message board guy. “Oh, the 5-star chose our rival? No worries. The 4-star is just as good, and that 3-star is a diamond in the rough. I mean, did we really even want him?”
January 9th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
Just have a party some night and assign each guest a beer/wine/liquor to bring. The results are a blast.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:21 PM
This came about because I got 2 bottles of Macallan 15yo Fine Oak Blend (outstanding BTW) from co-workers. One of the guys commented how they had some bottles without ages on them, I searched and voila.
I hadn’t heard that Macallan was doing that so it was an interesting read. I’m sure that in their rarer bottlings they will still use an age or year statement, but most of us wouldn’t be able to afford those anyway.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:21 PM
There’s Massilon Washington as this is known. They are D1, the big school division. Perhaps that’s Massilon Jackson that is D2.
You have Mentor with a fuckload 3k students, state has encouraged them to go to 2 high schools but fuckwads like being a big sports powerhouse.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:21 PM
Peerlees: How are y’all going to close? Read a thing the other day that said it should be a good month for Tenn. UGA is basically waiting on 5 guys to decide. Two 5-star lineman, 4-star RB, JUCO DT and some other cat. It could be a crazy good final month or a bit of a bummer. I see where USC is losing kids each day it seems. Kiffin won’t be long for a new job as someone’s ace recruiter/QB coach.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Correct. This year, they’ll likely drop down to Division II. The OHSAA is adding a…7th…division.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
Hall has been named by his peers as coach of the year once. Played at Mt. Union, I think a small school all american. Not like he’s some disconnected coot.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
There was an episode of Mythbusters once where they all tried to identify varying labels of vodka and then tried to order them from lowest cost to top shelf. As a control they had a trained vodka expert and he was the only one to get them in the proper order. What’s amazing about that is that vodka is produced in such a way that they are trying to filter out as many things as possible as there are much less identifying taste characteristics than you would find in wine or whiskey or even gin.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:23 PM
scripty, that’s how Webster High School outside Rochester was until the late 90s/early 2000s. they had like 2000-3000 students in their high school. When we played them in soccer one year, they had so many more players than my school. Hell, they had so many people that they had cheerleaders there for a soccer game and the cheerleading squad was bigger than my soccer team. Thankfully they broke up into two smaller high schools.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:24 PM
Rex I added to your twitter followers last night. I’ve been tardy on sending you an e-mail on an unrelated topic. I have a yahoo email, that still valid? If not you can send it directly to my twitter if you prefer.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:24 PM
In New York, they just stick to 5 classes (AA, A, B, C, D)
January 9th, 2013 at 1:26 PM
I love to cook with wine, but I’ve never been a wine drinker. I’ve always thought that a Merlot tasted like every other merlot. I know that’s not true, but that’s how I’ve always felt.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
not suprisingly that aforementioned school had a bullying issue and a few kids killed themselves. But hey, they’re good at sports
January 9th, 2013 at 1:29 PM
don’t worry, our coaching staff is outstanding at developing talent.
-message board guy
January 9th, 2013 at 1:30 PM
What if this is what your coach says? “We’ll develop our own stars.” –Bo Pelini
January 9th, 2013 at 1:31 PM
don’t worry, our coaching staff is outstanding at developing talent.
-message board guy
Someone joked on our message board that June Jones should open a DeBeers outlet, what with all the “diamonds in the rough” in our current recruiting class.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Unfortunately, our message boards say just the opposite.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Are you chewing gum?!
/ Love that movie
January 9th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Ha! That’s awesome. God damn I love it when Texas sucks. Make me so happy.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
You have Mentor with a fuckload 3k students, state has encouraged them to go to 2 high schools but fuckwads like being a big sports powerhouse.
Only we’re not.
January 9th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Massilon’s entire team could gang-rape a room full of nuns, post it to their Facebook pages and send a notarized copy to Deadspin and the town would say, “Boys will be boys.”.
is steubenville a rival?
January 9th, 2013 at 1:48 PM
It’s a rape off!!
/shows self out
January 9th, 2013 at 1:49 PM
it hasn’t escaped notice that tuberville rhymes with steubenville
/sort of
January 9th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Vez, they do play each other. about 90 minutes apart. Massillon is outside of Akron, Steubenville is south of Youngstown
January 9th, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Out for lunch. I really don’t keep super close with recruiting, just enough to know what’s going on. I hear Jones has done well so far and looking to have a good month leading to Signing Day. We shall see. What’s good about being bad for so long is it makes you sane and not crazy about this stuff
January 9th, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Good coach, but not a great coach.
/Queefer’d
//yesterday’d
January 9th, 2013 at 2:22 PM
katy lifts its leg and pissed all over massillion.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:51 PM
William F Buckley strongly disagrees as rich people have superior taste buds due to Jesus and so forth.
You know how I do. Top shelf only.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Oh, and yeah, water into wine was a nice thing, but they forgot to mention it was a fruity Beaujolais.
January 9th, 2013 at 4:58 PM
Holy shit, Jesus…you returned?!?
Wait, does this mean I shouldn’t bother with a dinner reservation tonight?
January 9th, 2013 at 7:10 PM
4.4 GPA in what? Intro to Mid-West moronology?
January 9th, 2013 at 8:43 PM
So the kid opens his recruitment when Jones leaves, is told by UT “No thanks”, UC offers another QB. Now Cincinnati is no longer available as his fall back school – too bad kid.