Roundup: Chip Kelly Might Be Waiting for the Patriots’ Job, Scott Skiles Out in Milwaukee & Man Attacked by Bobcat in His Garage
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Will Andy Reid work in Kansas City? [Star]
In defense of Mike Shanahan. [Sports on Earth]
Chip Kelly might just be holding out for the New England Patriots job. As a Jets fan, it sucks to hear that. [Oregonian]
The Bucks and Scott Skiles have parted ways. Milwaukee is 16-16. [JS Online]
Nick Saban reportedly blocked ESPN from the Alabama hotel TVs in Miami. Brilliant. [AL.com]
Jeff Darlington covered the Ravens playoff game, then drove over to cover the 2nd half of the Redskins-Seahawks game. [NFL.com]
Notre Dame won! Against Cincinnati. In college basketball. [South Bend Trib]
Seattle columnist quits the Times, partially because of those unruly internet commenters, aka, “chorus of idiots.” [Seattle Weekly]
Arizona star running back Ka’deem Carey charged with domestic violence. [Republic]
Radio guy Tom Joyner on Mike Shanahan: “If you saw the movie, just like DiCaprio had the Mandingos fighting in the room. That’s what he did. That’s what he did to RGIII.” [Bog]
The Chick Fil-A and Outback bowls got huge ratings. [ESPN Media Zone]
Alex Rodriguez struggled in the postseason because of his hip injury, which wasn’t due to steroids. Of course it wasn’t. [Post]
A great piece on the experience of attending a game at Fed Ex field. [Post]
How much is your college football team worth? [WSJ]
No surprise: The Jets have fired Tony Sparano, their inept offensive coordinator. [Mort]
The best Conan O’Brien clips of 2012. I’d completely forgotten Conan was on TV. [via Hot Clicks]
Tavon Austin, the West Virginia receiver who will be an NFL pick, has the most ridiculous high school tape since Reggie Bush.
What’s that in the background on the Swedish TV report? Is it … porn? [via Adam]
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- The Kansas City Royals Are Becoming the Royals Again, and Fans Have Been Far Too Patient
- Champions League: Bayern Munich a Legacy of Losing at Stake
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- The Alarm on Premier League: What Each Club Should Prioritize in the Summer
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January 8th, 2013 at 8:33 AM
tough gig, having to deal with three inept quarterbacks on their roster
January 8th, 2013 at 8:34 AM
I always feel odd about finding Sarah Hyland attractive. I know she’s like 21 or something but she looks 16 on a good day.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:34 AM
Alanis called this. Stay off that plane today, Mr. Playitsafe.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:34 AM
A true hero.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:35 AM
I see Sarah Hyland grew a pair
January 8th, 2013 at 8:36 AM
Chip Kelly might just be holding out for the New England Patriots job. As a Jets fan, it sucks to hear that.
Anyone think Bellichick retires? Even if he wins another ring? I don’t get the sense he’s the “Go home or be a TV analyst” type.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:37 AM
Some questions from last night, with attempts at a response:
Is Notre Dame the worst team every to play for a BCS title? Yes
How many other teams would have beat ND by two+ TDs? 11(Oregon, A&M, Georgia, Stanford, FSU, KSU, Florida, LSU, Clemson, South Carolina, Ohio State)
Is Alabama the best team in the country? I don’t know. They’re one of the best teams in the country.
Does the MNC need to be played within 10 days of the end of the regular season? Probably
These games are embarrassments.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:39 AM
Does that $300M figure next to PSU count the $60M in lawsuits?
January 8th, 2013 at 8:39 AM
I just don’t see it. Maybe I”m being optimistic but I see him coaching till he’s old and decrepit, then he retires, writes a book or lets someone else write it about him, then kicks the bucket. Picturing him sitting smiling next to Chris Berman or someone like him makes me gag.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:40 AM
Wait, what?
January 8th, 2013 at 8:41 AM
That Stanford team that was robbed of a win at ND by fraudulent officiating is nothing close to the same team that’s rolling now. Better QB on a neutral field? Stanford waxes the Irish.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:42 AM
No surprise: The Jets have fired Tony Sparano, their inept offensive coordinator.
tough gig, having to deal with three inept quarterbacks on their roster
He’s going to be in the demand. Ironically, more demand than any of his QBs or RBs.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:43 AM
I agree with this. The fact that the initial QB won the job to begin with is my only hesitancy in anointing Shaw the into the realm of top-5 coaches. That dude was so fucking awful.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:43 AM
Well in Notre Dame’s defense, they did play a partially tough Bg 1en schedule that wore them down for this title game.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:45 AM
Do you think that would have changed the outcome?
I’m starting to buy into the “Saban had a bunch of time to prepare” thing a bit, but still I don’t think Notre Dame was beating Bama with a 10 day gap.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Small sample size. Shaw had to evaluate two QBs without seeing them play a single game. Coaches who are willing to make adjustments throughout the year based on larger data sets are the ones I want on the sidelines. Not sure where I’d put Shaw in a rankings list, but he’s a very good coach, IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:46 AM
Ahh yes…the silly Ohio State fans are out in full force claiming they would have taken down Bama. I bet Urban had another heart attack scare watching Darth Saban troll the sidelines last night.
Preseason Top-10:
1) Alabama
2-10) Who gives a fuck
January 8th, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Pretty much. And is this really good for college football? Most uneven playing field in all of sports. They really need a salary cap. Hi-yo.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Isn’t the whole idea with the Chip Kelly stuff that BB would just wind up moving to the front office? Not exactly retirement.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:49 AM
No, but it would have been a much closer game against LSU last year if Saban and Co couldn’t implement his passing wrinkles. Also, let’s not forget that Saban was housed by Utah. So the key is getting Saban and Bama in a title game. Butters was getting all cute trying to equate a title game with other bowl games last night on twitter, but a title game is unlike any other. I can see a kid not going all-in during practice for the Outback Bowl or whatever. That’s not the case with the national title game. There are no excuses not to show up.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:49 AM
i am an OSU fan and I want no part of Bama this year
January 8th, 2013 at 8:50 AM
I’m really looking forward to that game in Kyle field on September 14th. On paper, that could be the game of the year.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:50 AM
No, they were losing regardless because they’re an inferior team in almost every area. I do think it would have been more competitive. Even if it wouldn’t make any difference in the outcome, I’d feel a lot better about the result. It bothers me that there’s no way to quantify the effect a six-week layoff has on a sports team. Its just absurd.
As for the “Saban time to prepare” thing: I dunno, I doubt it mattered. I should say that I don’t think Saban is a great coach, just a decent one. He’s a fantastic program builder, though. Saban wins all the time because he has better players than anyone in the country, and he learned what apparently only Bret Beliema and Jim Harbaugh figured out — recruit a great offense line and you’ll win 95 percent of your games in college football.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:51 AM
I dont know a single OSU fan who made this claim.
There are a lot of teams who could beat Alabama. Ohio State is probably one of them. I just haven’t heard anyone say that.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:52 AM
Unless your name is Mike Sherman.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 AM
My only hope is that the Bama offensive line won’t be so beastly next year (they lose 2-first round locks and Barrett Jones). I mean, A&M jumped on them and hung on. LSU played them man-for-man and UGA damn near beat them. I think the outcome last night was more of an exposure of just how fraudy ND was than anything else. Oregon, KST, Stanford and even Ohio State don’t get whipped that badly.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:53 AM
I just don’t see it. Maybe I”m being optimistic but I see him coaching till he’s old and decrepit, then he retires, writes a book or lets someone else write it about him, then kicks the bucket. Picturing him sitting smiling next to Chris Berman or someone like him makes me gag.
He’s a Don Shula-type: a career coach. They’ll have to kick him out.
I’m starting to buy into the “Saban had a bunch of time to prepare” thing a bit, but still I don’t think Notre Dame was beating Bama with a 10 day gap.
Four weeks of prep time, of film study, of analysis is important. This is the 2nd year in a row that he’s done it to a good team. Compare how Bama dismantled LSU last January versus the game they played this past season.
Not saying ND wins it if it’s a week or two after the season ends. It would have been closer.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Well this is just fucking absurd.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:54 AM
LSU has the best defensive line in the nation, though.
No one really thought ND was a top-10 team, but damn, they completely embarrassed themselves last night against an Alabama team that was just good, not great. Last year’s Alabama team beats them by 70.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:56 AM
How quickly we forget Noel Devine.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 AM
Agree. Last year that game is 45-0 entering the 4th quarter.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 AM
That’s stupid, OSU would only have to take down Notre Dame.
/Alabama had 1 loss, you see.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:57 AM
You know, West Virginia was really on fire in September. It’s too bad the NCAA couldn’t have played the national championship game then.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
Belichick if he is smart, won’t retire until Brady does. But my guess is he will stick it out a few years more to try and settle the debate whether his success is all because of Brady.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
It’s easy to be a great coach when you have the best players — most times by leaps and bounds — every time you step on a field. Saban was a disaster in the NFL because the talent gap disappeared and he couldn’t compensate.
Peterson, Shaw, Sumlin, Kelly, BOB — I have a lot more respect for these guys than a Saban or Meyer. I understand that’s not a popular opinion.
January 8th, 2013 at 8:58 AM
Who would you rather?
A) AJ McCarron’s girlfriend
B) Johnny Football’s girlfriend
C) AJ McCarron’s Cougar Mom
D) Samantha Ponder
January 8th, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Yup yup yup
January 8th, 2013 at 8:59 AM
I dont know a single OSU fan who made this claim.
Havent heard this once. Ok. State?
January 8th, 2013 at 8:59 AM
Not sure what this has to do with anything.
Reggie — McCarron’s chick, easily. That girl is a legitimate specimen.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:00 AM
A). Miss Alabama’s don’t come around very often.
Disaster is a bit of stretch. Also, he gets great talent, but so do his peers. The fact that the NFL is obsessed with Bama players tells me he’s quite the coach.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:00 AM
What? He is the best coach in college football, hands down. It’s not even close. He’s likely the second best coach in the country. If he is only “decent,” please tell be who, exactly, is “great.”
January 8th, 2013 at 9:00 AM
What? Wisconsin doesn’t recruit great linemen, they make them. If you want to see recruiting of great linemen look at what Hoke is doing at Michigan. We’ll find out in a few years if that works better than the way Wisconsin was doing it.
Are you auditioning to be a TBL writer? Just throw shit against the wall and see what sticks?
/not verified by me
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Saban made Michigan State competitive and Meyer won at Bowling Green and Utah.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
OSU fan here. We would get smoked by Bama. But we could beat ND and have a National Championship.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
Like many football coaches in the NFL he just chose the wrong Quarterback.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:01 AM
A >>>>>>> D > B >>>>>>>>>>>> C
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 AM
I should say that I don’t think Saban is a great coach, just a decent one.
Wow, I couldn’t disagree more. And I wouldn’t call 15-17 in the NFL a disaster, it’s not great. But I could see him being successful in the with the right GM and seeing it through more than 2 years.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 AM
And don’t bring up Urban at Bowling Green
/
RIP Dad’s wheelbarrow
January 8th, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Agreed that the talent gap between broken down Daunte Culpepper and in his prime Drew Brees is ginormous.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
But the NFL teams hate dealing with Saban because lies about players and covers up injuries – which is of course good for the players.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Alex Rodriguez struggled in the postseason because of his hip injury, which wasn’t due to steroids. Of course it wasn’t
This is everything that is wrong with sports journalism/commentary today. The article specifically describes the physical nature his hip joint and how that leads to this type of injury.
But why would you listen to that guy, he’s only a doctor. TBL really knows what’s up.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Saban was 15-17 with the Dolphins.
Belichik was 13-19 in his first two seasons. And 16-16 in his first two seasons with the Pats.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:03 AM
waves
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
Clearly Nick Saban’s fault their doctors didnt clear them to sign Drew Brees.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
Cowher is just waiting for Coughlin to retire!
/nah
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
Disagree here. NBA still the worst.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
McCarron winning the trash talking game, too. Aaron Murray tweeted that AJ’s GF needed to become a Dawg fan. AJ responds with, “You don’t win enough, bud.”
Ouch.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:04 AM
15-17 is not a disaster. A lot of things attributed to that, including poor QB play. Not sure why I’m even replying to you.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
I think Bama would whoop the dogshit out of that K-State team, agree with the other three though.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
A). Miss Alabama’s don’t come around very often.
They come around annually.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
Scripty on point as usual
January 8th, 2013 at 9:05 AM
I see what you did there
D > B > C > A
January 8th, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Or Sam McGuffie.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:06 AM
Notre Dame is reason #1 for the need for a playoff. A&M would be reason #2.
Honest question: which top 10 teams would be favored over A&M on a neutral field right now?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:06 AM
I for one was perfectly happy watching the slaughter last night. It was must-see TV.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:06 AM
did he really “bud” him? awesome.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Newspaper comment sections are pretty terrible, but this is a pretty roundabout way of saying the guy likely took some sort of buyout.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Bub > Bud
/Team Wolverine
January 8th, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Watching those schools makes me wish that my team would ditch this spread garbage and adopt what they’re doing. I thought this was a copycat league.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:08 AM
Bama. Oregon.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:08 AM
Belecheck will scope out the playing field and get some owner to cut him 5% of a team and let him have total control of operations.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:08 AM
He did indeed.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:09 AM
I’m glad to see Alabama stepping up their non-conference schedule next year by including a second FCS school.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Laremy Tunsil needs to sign with UGA. That would give them all of their OL back next year plus a legit 5-star OT with Gurley and Co to run behind. August 31st can’t get here fast enough.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
High Five
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Saban wasn’t a disater in the NFL but he wasn’t good, and his players despised him even before he lied about quitting on them
He’s best sticking to the level where his team only realistically faces a loss two or three times a season…better for the heart
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
And they get a bye before both A&M and LSU, and they don’t play Florida, Georgia or South Carolina.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Jake Matthews is coming back for his senior year at A&M.
Now, to find a halfway competent replacement for Joeckel.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:10 AM
I think Bama would but I don’t know about Oregon.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:11 AM
This Darnell Dockett, Aj McCarron, Girlfriend thing is why I love the internet
January 8th, 2013 at 9:11 AM
“If you saw the movie, just like DiCaprio had the Mandingos fighting in the room. That’s what he did. That’s what he did to RGIII.”
When can we finally start spoiling Django around here?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:11 AM
Its going to be great when SEC teams navigate the playoffs and play each other for the title. Can’t wait for the bitching.
Late on yesterday’s roundup but that good will oral history was fantastic.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
I for one was perfectly happy watching the slaughter last night. It was must-see TV.
i did too, although i hate watching big 10 v the SEC. always ends in a blowout.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
!!!
January 8th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
You can pencil in Bama to the SEC title game again. It’s just a matter of who they will play. I would think South Carolina would be the favorite due to its schedule. UGA and UF have a tougher road next year.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:12 AM
There’s no way this can be true, is there? Both Chattanooga and the Fightin’ Younglefhanders?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
I bet JMac doesn’t feel the same way anymore.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Wow. That’s huge for them.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:13 AM
Speaking of NFL disaster, how about T’eo. Woof.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
BTW, I’m not looking forward to Bama traveling to College Station next year. Not. One. Bit.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
True. He didn’t pull a Petrino
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
ND joining the ACC is a perfect match. Really we should just make ND play OU every late December so neither can ruin a perfectly good bowl game.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:14 AM
Honest question: which top 10 teams would be favored over A&M on a neutral field right now?
Ahhh. The “USC We Were The Hottest Team at the End of the Year but Hey, Ignore our Losses” Title. I’ve missed this. Is USC aware you’re borrowing this title belt?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Whoa. Alabama’s OOC schedule is Va. Tech, Colorado State, Georgia State and Chattanooga. That’s garbage.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Saban will have them so jacked for that game. It will be tough, but I would bet they win it by 10+ next year.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
Lofa Tatupu.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
I really fail to understand how ND didn’t think using a double-A gap blitz against Bama would be a good thing. Jones was fucking awful. That was the only place on the field that ND had a clear advantage in talent and ability.
Also, it is shame that he won the Rimington award. That was some god-awful center play.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:15 AM
It’s very early in the season, though, so both teams can absorb the loss and recover.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Thought you were talking about Georgia Tech and not State for a minute
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Their schedule and Ohio State’s schedule are both so hilarious. I’d be surprised if they aren’t playing each other for a title next year.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Golf Digest said this morning Dustin Johnson is dating Paulina Gretzky.
/Apologies if Duckworth’d
January 8th, 2013 at 9:16 AM
A&M’s non-conference schedule is funny too. All Texas teams at home: SMU, UTEP, Sam Houston St., and Rice.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:17 AM
That 344 pound NG just stopped playing after the first couple drives. He was having his way with Jones.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Texas is trying to wrangle a visit out of him. Worth a shot, but nothing will come of it.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
out drives the field.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Same here.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:18 AM
at least SMU, UTEP, and Rice are D1 schools
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 AM
No chance of him signing there from what I’ve read. Like almost every other big recruit in the south still left, it’s between Bama and UGA.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 AM
I’m not an A&M fan. Just pointing out what I believe to be true, that they’re the proverbial team that nobody would want to play right now. Not saying they deserve a championship or anything.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Way off on the prediction for that game. Did not see ALA blowing them out, especially with having their way with ND in the 1st Qtr. ALA’s OFF line moved them up and down the field with ease. Brent & Herbie kept on talking about missed tackles, but all I saw was the big uglies pushing ND around.
I would imagine that Vedas made a killing last nite. Public was on ND +10 (as was I), but i like the OVER slightly. Hell, Bama got the OVER by themselves. People who tuned in for a good game were sorely disappointed.
Can we get another new pic of Katherine Webb?
/done some googling, here it is, Genie in a bottle
//Roll Damn Tide
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Their conference schedule is very mild also. Almost a guaranteed ten win season.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:19 AM
Honestly, does this even matter any more? It will never be about them winning or losing; it will be about them winning by 6 touchdowns vs winning by 4 touchdowns.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:21 AM
So, best I can tell, here are the top non-conference games that don’t involve ND or rivalries:
Oregon vs. Tenn
NU vs. UCLA
Bama vs. VT
LSU vs. TCU
FL vs. MIA
Miss St. vs Ok St.
OSU @ Cal
Mich @ UConn
January 8th, 2013 at 9:21 AM
I have no love for ND, but man, that was ugly. I stopped watching.
It was bad to the point where I couldn’t even shit talk friends of mine who are ND fans (ostensibly because of Irish surnames).
January 8th, 2013 at 9:21 AM
Yup. The SEC did the exact opposite of what the B10 did to NEB. A&M gets Mizzou and Vandy from the East next year. Manzeil will get away with never having to face SoCar’s DL and Clowney. Must be nice.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:22 AM
UGA opens with Clemson next year on the road. That game will be fantastic. Might even be the Gameday game since LSU-TCU and Bama-VT won’t be too crazy.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:24 AM
I knew I was missing one. Yeah, that one should be good.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:25 AM
Sarah Hyland
I had no idea who this was. I was just grateful to know nobody hit Mila Kunis in the face with a frying pan, which was my first impression.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:25 AM
The only girl’s name I want to hear associated with golf is Holly Sonders
Phenomenal
January 8th, 2013 at 9:25 AM
That will look like a B12 game, especially if Boyd returns, as most expect. I’m thinking 42-38 or some shit like that.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:26 AM
Belen Mozo
January 8th, 2013 at 9:26 AM
This is twice now that Boylan’s become an interim coach after a Scott Skiles firing, he’s the NBA’s Terry Robiskie
January 8th, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Heard him interviewed today. He is having lisfranc surgery for a bad ligament in his foot tomorrow. He admitted to playing on one leg, but wasn’t going to miss this game.
He wasn’t good last night, but that is a good excuse.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Was Kuselias cropped out of that pic?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:28 AM
She’s pretty nice but those have gotta be fake, right?
/SFW
January 8th, 2013 at 9:29 AM
Sandra Gal
January 8th, 2013 at 9:29 AM
Fabricate much?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:29 AM
She’s definitely not camera shy. Good for her
January 8th, 2013 at 9:30 AM
Yes. But the acne scars are real.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:31 AM
Twitter has a lot of idiots.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:31 AM
do more guns equal less crime? …
I couldn’t get past paragraph number 4. sheesh, what rambling nonsense.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:32 AM
I don’t think she’s going to age gracefully. Like, done at 29.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 AM
s1rweeze, I googled her and got that pic as well and held off because of the bad acne, ouch! I believe those are real and they’re spectacular!
YYSA, I give her a pass, might have been a bad day. All other shots she looks really good.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:33 AM
Only if it’s warning people wanting Quentin Tarantino to pull off a good Australian accent to lower expectations
January 8th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
The best part of his movies is how bad his acting is.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:34 AM
Sandra Gal, keep her on your radar. First LPGA win last year.
/talent
January 8th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
He pulled off a pretty solid dead Nazi getting scalped in Basterds.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
I am assuming there is some 30-minute clip that was left on the editing room floor about how these Australians ended up in the elbow deep in the Mississipi slave trade. I am not interested. Seriously WTF.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:36 AM
I’ve made many, many stupid comments in my day, but I really wish I had the one I made before the season when I said Bama wouldn’t skip a beat at RB. Lacy is such a fucking tank. ATL needs to grab him in the second round.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:38 AM
I’d put PSU vs. Syracuse above that one.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:39 AM
Still not terribly impressed. Using the only point of comparison, the Michigan game, Jones wasn’t terribly impressive in either game. I’m sure he’ll make a nice RG in the NFL, but that seems like his ceiling. The Rimington award was still bullshit.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:39 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMVILMo1Cq0
Speaking of directors, watch this fight between David O Russell and Lily Tomlin on set. This guy apparently is a real hothead. He and George Clooney got in a fight too on another movie because he was being mean to the crew and Clooney stood up for them.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Eddie Lacy is a likeable, good version of Brandon Jacobs. But I also see Marion Barber in his future.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
Don’t pull a muscle patting yourself on the back there, champ.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
God that game sucked last night. I missed the first quarter, when it was still an actual game.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:41 AM
I think he’s faster/quicker than Barber and has some shift to him.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:43 AM
It was only a game for about three minutes, sadly. Was hoping it would last longer than that.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:43 AM
You missed the first minute and a half, when it was still an actual game.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:43 AM
The last remnants of the Bill Martin era.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:44 AM
are we really still bitching about Bama’s OOC schedule?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 AM
That first drive was laugh out loud funny. They did whatever they wanted to like ND was Western Kentucky or some shit like that. I can’t believe Te’o finished with 10 tackles. 7 of them must have come after I stopped watching with 5 min left in the third.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 AM
So far, Ingram and Richardson are both under 4.0 ypc for their careers.
We’ll see how Lacy does without that Bama OLine in front of him.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Playoffs can’t get here fast enough (next year is the last for the current incarnation of the BCS, right?). Hopefully that’ll encourage teams to play good OOC schedules.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:45 AM
Talking about next year’s abortion I believe. Can’t wait to watch Logan Thomas play Saban though. That shit will be fantastic.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:46 AM
i dont see him retiring anytime soon, even if Brady leaves. the more i’ve read about him in “War Room” and “Education of a coach” the more i think he’ll coach until he gets canned by Kraft or decides to move on.
whoever on his staff inherits that organization as HC will do pretty well if they buy into his whole structure, scouting, etc.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Ingram is a whole bunch of meh. Trent is legit. If he’s still that bad after his second season I’d be surprised.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:47 AM
I hate that Wisconsin plays one 1-AA team a year (come on down Tennessee Tech in 2013!), really can’t believe Alabama would schedule two…season ticket holders should be the most let down by it, blowouts against bums are fun for only so long
January 8th, 2013 at 9:47 AM
It won’t. You’ll see more one-game deals a la Bama-Mich, but you’re seeing those now. Bama or Michigan isn’t going to add a second major power to their slate. People who think that will happen will be disappointed.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
at this point I would be more worried about the trauma that Erik Kausileous (sp) has surely put on her rather than the authenticity of her fantastic rack.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
I was told Lacy and his 6.0 + YPC from last year was fraudulent by Michigan fans.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
A four-team playoff isn’t likely to change scheduling habits. A larger field where seeding would become important would cause some changes IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Billy B will become the Patriots’ GM when he is done coaching.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Provided they find a QB of course.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Ingram got drafted by the wrong team. The Saints aren’t gonna run it 30 times a game and allow those body blows to add up. Richarson’s in a similar situation becasue the Browns suck so hard they get down early and he’s taken out of the game.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 AM
David O Russell
Super-talented but yeah a lot of people won’t work with him. That was Three Kings. Side note: that hole scene where they go back into the Iraqi town and go find the gold, Clooney wasn’t there for the filming of that. It’s incredible editing all put togther.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Hey I’m the retard who didn’t realize he already is the GM.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:50 AM
Yuck. Any more than 6 and it becomes too much of a good thing.
Everyone focused on Richardson last year (with good reason) but they would just ignore Lacy coming in and getting 10-12 carries a game and getting his 6 yards each time. They develop talent so well at Bama. Hell, even McCarron looks like an NFL player now.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:52 AM
In a few years (maybe next year?) MSU plays both Bama and ND OOC.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:52 AM
yeah, I’m just saying at this point I don’t think who Bama plays in its OOC schedule is a huge deal. I could be wrong, but isn’t their last non-con (not including a bowl game) loss La-Monroe?
I hate 1-AA and other bullshit games as much as anyone else, especially being a season ticket holder, but there really aren’t a ton of other options for BCS level schools. Arkansas opens against UL-Lafayette and Samford next year, and then a barn burner against So. Miss.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:52 AM
Richardson only had a few long runs hence the lower YPA. A few times he broke loose they were around the 30 yard line so a few 50+ yard runs were only 30 or so. I think if he learns to stay healthy that should go up a bit. If you want to embarrass yourself and say he’s fraudy just go ahead.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
that i agree with. however, i don’t see BB just trading away everything, dropping the mic and walking out of the building.
I do think McDaniels will stand to inherit the team if he stays with the organization, and i think he’ll be a good choice, so the next starting QB will probably be picked by BB and the successor.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
By next year, I meant 2014
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
Looks like 0-1 to me
January 8th, 2013 at 9:54 AM
At least your team isn’t playing Appalachian State again.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:55 AM
I’m fine with that though I think 12 is feasible (top 4 get byes then homefield, next four get home field, etc.). 16 should be out of the question.
I think it’s going to expand as such because each major conference is going to want a team in the tourney.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Didn’t Trent play half the year with cracked ribs? Lets evaluate him again after next year.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 AM
he said major power.
/tee’d up
January 8th, 2013 at 9:57 AM
The Alabama Organization will be prepared for it.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:58 AM
Pitt fans hate playing 1-AA opponents – they prefer to wait until Big East play when their schedule eases up.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Tap the brakes
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 AM
If I were ranking teams for the preseason next year I’d have it:
1) Bama
2) Stanford
3) Oregon
4) Texas A&M
5) Georgia
6) South Carolina
7) Louisville
8) Florida State
9) Clemson
10) TCU?
Who am I missing?
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 AM
Everyone needs to prepare now for Louisville to run the table next year and be in the championship game. They don’t lose much at all and of course have a very weak schedule. They should start ranked fairly high as well.
January 8th, 2013 at 9:59 AM
ECU would like to have a word with you
/we love being doormats for good teams
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 AM
The team that gets the opportunity to get beaten down by Bama next year.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 AM
shit.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 AM
Coach Bielema will make it interesting, like he enjoys doing against lesser opponents. nothing wrong with helping out fellow coaches move up the ladder a little bit, it worked out for Utah St. last year.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:00 AM
That’s a bit unique in that ND is always on the slate. It’s like MICH this year. As I said, the one-off games are already happening. To think teams will add two of them is silly.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
tOSU
January 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
No chance
January 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
So UL vs OSU next year? Fine with me.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:01 AM
I was hoping he was a senior this year so the Packers could have taken him in the 6th round and flipped him for a 4th and a 7th in two years’ time after he got some of that McCarthyism in him
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 AM
OSU would be 7-10 IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:02 AM
All of this. Though they have a legit, NFL-bound QB and a helluva coach. Plus they beat down UF in the Sugar. I don’t think people will be as upset with them in the hunt. It will depend on who else is out there. Imagine 13-0 Ohio State, 12-0 Louisville and 12-1 Bama/A&M/UGA? Sucks to be Louisville.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:03 AM
God dammit. I swore I put them in. Yeah. I’d bump everyone down after 5th and have Ohio State at 6th.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
I can’t imagine the feeling Bama fans must be feeling now. Just knowing you won’t lose much production. Still floored that Amari Cooper is a freshman.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Over/under number of months before Bielema needs a Rascal to get out to the sidelines?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Christian Ponder, Andy Dalton, Harvard boy, Arizona’s shit fest, Weeden and Ponder are starting QBs.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Florida gonna fall off that much next year? I sure as hell hope so, would prefer Miami to have a fighting chance against them.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:05 AM
He’s probably 21.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:05 AM
And they get Kenny Bell back. Yeah…they’re not going anywhere. But…they could have lost 3 games this year very easily, and the OL won’t be what it was this year. Hope is not all lost I suppose.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
Ha!
/rimshot
In that chorus, I’m singing baritone. Yeah, baby.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
tavon austin is very fast and elusive, a great athlete playing in 1A, fun to watch. i appreciate the joy he seems to have around the game
also, i weep for the future of tackling
January 8th, 2013 at 10:06 AM
They lose a metric fuck ton on defense (why they won 11 games in the first place) and they lose their RB, TE and a couple of OL. They’ll have talent for sure (they always do) but I don’t think they’re a top-10 team to start off with. I would bet the AP and Coaches Poll disagree with me, though.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Fuck Dave Brandon and his horrible uniform choices.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Yeah, but one of their two losses came in the first game of the season, correct, with an 18-year-old freshman under center for the first time?
Stanford/A&M would have been an all-timer of a title game, BTW.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:10 AM
So it shouldn’t count? Should the LSU beat down of Manziel not count either? Or the Ole Miss nail biter? I think we need to accept that the entire 12 games count, not just the last 5.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:10 AM
Rascal? I just assumed by mid-September he would be rolling up in this
January 8th, 2013 at 10:11 AM
It was their 4th game, this was discovered with a 10 second internet search
Stanford’s really good, but I’d pump the brakes on a team that barely squeaked by UCLA at home to win the PAC-12 all of a sudden being the best
January 8th, 2013 at 10:14 AM
I’m sure the ones for the ND game will also be well short of spectacular.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Arkbadger: How’s Bielema doing on the recruiting front? Is he going to poach the RB out of Little Rock (or wherever he’s from in ARK)?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Fair enough, Miami’s defense can’t get any worse so nowhere to go but up. Morris will be a senior, Duke Johnson is the truth, and the game is at home. I’d say we have a fighting chance.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Devine’s is very good, Julio Jones is crazy but the best high school tape is Clowney. It just isn’t fair, about 20 seconds into the tape you feel bad for watching but can’t look away.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:19 AM
Fighting chance sounds about right. Muschamp will have them jacked up for that game I’m sure, especially after the embarrassment in New Orleans.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 AM
No, it should count. They should all count. But name a team this year who played flawless.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:20 AM
I actually thought of this the other day. McDaniels will get another job, and Kelly could be offensive coordinator for a year.
I wonder if Ricky Santos is available???
January 8th, 2013 at 10:21 AM
No one has, but others have been less flawed than the Aggies.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 AM
he hasn’t made any huge splashes yet from what I have seen, but the coaches he has brought in are pretty well regarded. I’m not holding out a ton of hope for this year, but the coming years they should bring them in.
Tenpenny is the RB from Little Rock. he is schedules for an on campus visit in a few weeks. he says he is still committed to Bama, and apparently he was kind of disappointed with one of the old assistants (who was helping recruit him) not being retained and being signed on at Auburn last week. I’m holding out hope that he thinks he will get buried on the depth chart at Bama, but with Yeldon seeing playing time as a Freshman who knows.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Nah… I’ve heard a few times that he expects to outlast Brady. I didn’t read the link, but if he goes to New England, it’d be next year or later as OC and a few more before BB gives up the reins (IF that is the plan at all, which after clicking the article, seems just like a complete ‘what if’)
January 8th, 2013 at 10:26 AM
The thought that Brady only has a few more years just made me pretty bummed. My time as a Pats fan basically bridges Bledsoe’s rookie year forward, so except for a dose of Matt Cassell, and a little bit of Scott Zolak, I’ve only watched two QBs for the last nearly 20 years.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Record-wise? The team that finished 12-0.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
You really think Kelly would leave Oregon for an OC position with the Pats???
January 8th, 2013 at 10:27 AM
UCLA is ranked. And every team had some squeakers, most against teams far worse than UCLA.
It comes down to whether you believe the national title should be between the two best teams, or the two most deserving teams. When Alabama was added last year instead of a more deserving OkST, we learned that its the former. So why not Stanford then?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Played flawlessly =/= perfect record
Shit, ND probably had the most flawed resume of any top 15 team and it ran the table.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:29 AM
Fuck no. I laughed when I read that.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Your argument falls apart here. Those two teams are the same two teams. The problem is that the polls can’t identify them with any degree of certainty because they ignore advanced metrics, along with several other issues.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 AM
Then “played flawlessly” is a false choice in that it in an impossibility.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:32 AM
For those of you that still think Saban will go to the NFL, he was paid more than 26 NFL coaches this year. Only: Tomlin, Carrol, Coughlin, Shanahan, Fisher, and BB made more.
http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/coach/
January 8th, 2013 at 10:33 AM
*is an
January 8th, 2013 at 10:34 AM
He’ll get bored at some point, and a team will offer him $7 million and total control. Now, he could turn that down, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:36 AM
Michigan is lucky they’re catching Appalachian in a transitional year this upcoming season.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:37 AM
You think Bama wouldn’t pay him $7 million per to stick around and win a dozen more Championships?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:37 AM
I keep hearing all this talk of Alabama being a dynasty simply because they’ve won three of the last four mythical national titles. When you look at how they did it though, doesn’t some of the luster come off?
- They won their first title when Texas’ Heisman finalist QB went down in the first quarter. His freshman backup nearly pulled off the win.
- Their second title came after winning a rematch against a team that beat Alabama at home during the much tougher regular season. Both LSU and Alabama finished with identical records and a 1-1 mark against one another, though LSU won at Alabama, won the SEC title game and played a much tougher schedule. Somehow, Alabama is the undisputed national champ after winning an arbitrary title game six weeks after the season is complete.
- This year they backed into the title game despite a weak schedule and a late-season home loss (albeit to a good A&M team). Once there, they faced the worst BCS title game participant in history.
I’m trying to take anything away from Alabama. The Tide still won these games. I’m just not overly impressed with the quality of wins or how they got there.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 AM
The key part was him getting bored. Guys want to compete against the best.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:39 AM
No but that’s the only way that he’s gonna end up as the HC. My point is more BB isn’t going anywhere for 5 years.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Notre Dame was not one of the two best teams in the country. It was one of the two most deserving teams based on how CFB operates.
Also, why would Saban ever leave? He already failed in the NFL. The media/pollsters ensure that he (or any good SEC school) has an easy run to the title game every single year. The program recruits itself. He’ll never have it better than he does at Alabama.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
I’m not saying that this makes much of a difference, but I believe Georgia State is dipping its toes into the FBS waters next season.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:40 AM
No. They’ve done something no program has done since 1997. They’re the first to do it in the BCS era, and they’ve done it with 2 different QBs and several different defensive stars. He does have a dynasty.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Hey, you can’t expect it to be like Nebraska with going undefeated in 94, 95, and 97.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Prosecutor: Mr. Chappelle, what would it take to convince you that R. Kelly is guilty?
Dave Chappelle: Okay, I’d have to see a video of him singing “Pee On You,” two forms of government ID, a police officer there to verify the whole thing, four or five of my buddies and Neal taking notes, and R. Kelly’s grandma to confirm his identity.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Yes, you are. That’s a whole lot of contrived retrospective. I mean, fuck Bama, but there haven’t been a whole lot of undisputed kick-ass champions. Their titles are fine.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:42 AM
This has been my stance. I think Saban is a guy that needs a challenge and the college game might not get his heart going like it did after another title or two.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:43 AM
They lost that game 37-21!
January 8th, 2013 at 10:43 AM
I swear, if you make me defend ND, I’m going to unfriend you on Facebook.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Its not contrived. These things all happened. For whatever reason, people seem unwilling to look deeper into how it happened.
Put it this way – if Boise State won three of the last four in that manner, you can bet your ass I wouldn’t be the only one talking about it.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Well, except for the fact A&M would not have made a single playoff format being discussed, sure…
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
should be between the two best teams, or the two most deserving teams.
Your argument falls apart here. Those two teams are the same two teams. The problem is that the polls can’t identify them with any degree of certainty because they ignore advanced metrics, along with several other issues.
the fact is most of the BCSCG have sucked competitively. i get annoyed when people get haughty about who should play in them, that only the best two should play, get the boise states and NIUs out of the discussion
the only way to make folks happy, rightfully so, is to figure out the title game participants on the field with a playoff system. no polls, computers, no arguments (ha!). i know, polls and computers will decide the playoff participants, but head to head is better than not
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Yes you are.
It’s all just luck though, right?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Titles are titles. 40 years from now, no one will remember how they went down. Just as most people don’t realize that the titles won in the 60s were awarded BEFORE the bowl games were played.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Pretty much a textbook example of taking away.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:46 AM
Wow, really? That seems fast
January 8th, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Again, 15-17 is not a failure.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
It was 24-21 with three minutes left. Ingram and Richardson scored TDs with two minutes and 47 seconds, respectively to go that put it out of reach. Both came after Gilbert INTs.
That was a FG game with three minutes to go and Texas ball.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:49 AM
Between Sarah Hyland and the Sam Houston cheerleader, this must be Chipmunk Day at TBL.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:51 AM
That lazy old-sports mentality, the same that holds up batting average and RBI as the two best ways to measure offensive performance in baseball. Alabama beating a shit ND team is not the same as Oklahoma beating LSU or Alabama beating LSU. There are degrees of titles.
Serious question: once the playoff format is enacted, are pre-playoff titles less impressive? I don’t see how they couldn’t be.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:52 AM
It was also 24-6 at the half. Two long Shipley TDs brought them back close, but then they lost by 2 TDs. Not really that close to a victory.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Playoff or not… I’m not so sure a team that didn’t win it’s own division, let alone conference, should be in a title game.
And aTm joined the division on their own volition, so I don’t exactly feel bad. Just like Red Sox and Yankees love the money from the rivalry, so stop bitching about needing more WCs when it keeps you out of the playoffs.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Isn’t that part of the problem, though? That one of the few consensus great teams in the country wouldn’t even be a part of a CFB postseason?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:53 AM
ND getting blown out doesn’t mean NIU was deserving of a BCS at-large berth, you’re talking about two different things
January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 AM
You’re out of your element, Donny. I can get with not measuring a Pitcher or Quarterback by team wins… but I’m pretty sure the best way to measure team success is through wins.
You’re basically saying “fuck the World Series, the team with the highest OPS+ should win the title”
January 8th, 2013 at 10:54 AM
Interesting. Do you feel Alabama deserved a spot in last year’s title game against LSU?
Also, above: that was supposed to be FSU, not LSU
January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 AM
Queefer, do you actually read what you write? Jesus H, man…
January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 AM
You truly are the most contrarian person I know. I’m not sure if that is a good thing or bad thing.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:56 AM
We few, we happy few …
Well, not so few.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:57 AM
College football is so different than any other sport, though, that it’s impossible to really determine if all titles are the same. Two teams from different conferences (mostly) with unbalanced schedules are voted to play a game six weeks after the season. Sometimes the two most deserving teams make it. Sometimes the two best do. Sometimes you have to win your conference. Sometimes you dont. Perception and history matter more than results. It’s all too subjective.
I’m just saying that all titles are not created equal. Hell, I didn’t even think that was controversial.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Statement: Titles are titles.
Response: That lazy old-sports mentality?
/dying
January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 AM
No. And it seems “consensus” is the same guy who doesn’t think Saban is that good of a coach. How big would the playoff have to be to include A&M? At a minimum–16 teams. If that’s what you want, quit watching. You aren’t a CFB fan.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:00 AM
How dare you.
The Packers currently enjoy “13 NFL Championships”… the first three determined by league record alone, and two more determined without playing the AFL champ. I don’t think Butters loses sleep over it.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 AM
I’m not contrarian, actually. To me, most sports fans don’t take the time to look beyond what they’re told to think. Sometimes, there’s not always a deeper level. Sometimes there is. To me, Alabama = amazing dynasty ignores a lot of unique factors that played a role.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 AM
/Belt
January 8th, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Did you seriously type this? Jesus Christ. You and sctrojans should go have a discussion about how you get better in games, not practice. Just pure idiocy.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:02 AM
16 would be fantastic. Although I could live with 12.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Kent State vs B1G 3rd Place Team on a Wednesday in early december would be AWESOME
January 8th, 2013 at 11:03 AM
It just keeps getting better. What they are told to think? There’s a reason why your nickname here is “the worst.”
January 8th, 2013 at 11:04 AM
So schools should get a much small crystal football when they win a title against unworthy teams? The regular size should be saved for what, USC-Texas?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Actually, for posterity’s sake, they are.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:06 AM
That pitchers hitting makes for better baseball
January 8th, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Come on. That’s never happening with 12 teams.
But either way, I usually hear NFL fans complaining about too much playoff football. More great college football matchups that actually mean something would definitely suck.
Nah, you still get the title. It’s an academic exercise. I don’t think Alabama’s three wins are an amazing accomplishment. That’s all.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:07 AM
I think you are 100% missing the point.
Without a playoff, you have a much greater chance of having the ‘best’ team as a champion.
With the system now, 9/10 times, one of the best two teams in the country will end up being the champion. In fact, I can’t think of a time in BCS-CG era where it hasn’t happened.
In the MLB playoffs though, how many times has a 3rd best or worse team won a title? How about the Superbowl? (1st recent Giants and Steelers titles come to mind)
Your point can’t be “they weren’t proven to be the best team”, it has to be “they didn’t survive an elimination tournament that ADDS variance to the results, not removes it.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Queefer, your argument that their are degrees of, and diminished, titles doesn’t jive with you being able to live with 12 teams. It would seem to have to be 124 or nothing.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
The opening round of a 16-team tourney would not be very compelling save for maybe a game or two. I think the max is 12 and I could see it happening.
(5) Champions of Big 5 Conferences (sorry Big East)
(1) Highest rated champion of non-Big 5 Conference
(6) At-Large
Adding four more would be a little much IMO.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:08 AM
I’m on board with having a Council of Elders charged with assigning a weight to a championship…who wouldn’t watch a show on ESPN where it gets debated if the Heat should be knocked down a peg because Derrick Rose blew out his knee while a livid Stephen A screams about how he wouldn’t have made a difference?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 AM
I would pay to watch a 2 hour conversation between you and JMac. One of you would be screaming about how people just don’t understand the intricacies of CFB; while the other carried on about crowning a champion through a careful combination of ratings, needle movement, fan interest, and dong pics. At no time would you listen to the other, but you would constantly berate them for being wrong.
It would be glorious!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 AM
To put it in a simpler way:
If at the end of every MLB season since 1994, you took the team with the #1 record and gave it the World Series. And then had them play the actual WS champion, which side wins more games? You can’t argue whether titles are worthy when you don’t understand the purpose of having a playoffs.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Lunacy Category? This now tops Joe Bush not finding hot Asian women remotely attractive.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:12 AM
that’s fucking preposterous.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Would the trophy be called the Cooley or the Oden Award?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Whoa whoa whoa…say what now? Asians are the best.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:14 AM
/drops mic
//that Spencer left hanging
January 8th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Also, mark Jan. 8, 2013, as the day Queefer finally went off the deep end.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Is the argument that any other D1 team could have done the same as Alabama facing those circumstances?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:16 AM
the argument is that the world is flat or bears use bidets after shitting int he woods.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:20 AM
now THAT is preposterous
/Bears use Charmin
January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
Not really.
I’ll say this about Alabama — beating LSU like that last year was easily their most impressive win. Maybe the most impressive win of the BCS title era. People already forget how GD good LSU was.
Unfortunately for the Tide, LSU happened to beat Alabama in Loosa, won the division, won the conference, and did it all against a tougher schedule. For the life of me, I don’t understand how that makes Alabama the unanimous best team in the country. Being appointed to – and winning – an arbitrary title game six weeks after the season doesn’t negate the fact that Alabama already lost to LSU. At home. During the season. I just don’t get it.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:21 AM
this is my favorite comment.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:22 AM
WHO IS BETTER? WHO? IF THERE IS NO TEAM THAT’S BETTER, THEN ALABAMA’S THE BEST.
just stop. bama rawks. deal with it like everyone else.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:25 AM
Well, I’ll clarify: I think several teams could have accomplished what Alabama did given the same opportunities. There are 10-15 teams that would have beat ND and a Texas team without Colt McCoy. I don’t know if anyone other than Bama could have beat LSU. With six weeks off though, who knows? The bigger problem with last year is that I can’t reconcile the Tide being the undisputed champ when they lost at home to the title game opponent and both teams finished with the same record.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:25 AM
That’s a good album you just referenced.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:26 AM
LSU. The team that beat them. At home. During the much more important regular season.
LSU was just as good/deserving as Alabama. They weren’t better. That’s why they should have been co-champs.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 AM
It’s fun to start at the end of the Roundup and see how the comments developed in reverse.
As soon as I saw people quoting comments questioning whether Alabama is really as good as people say I already knew it was Queefer who originally said it.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 AM
UGA will land Tunsil, Adams and Foster and take them out in 2013. Book that shit, homey!
/chugs kool aid
//going all in in 2013
January 8th, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Unfortunately for the Tide, LSU happened to beat Alabama in Loosa, won the division, won the conference, and did it all against a tougher schedule. For the life of me, I don’t understand how that makes Alabama the unanimous best team in the country. Being appointed to – and winning – an arbitrary title game six weeks after the season doesn’t negate the fact that Alabama already lost to LSU. At home. During the season. I just don’t get it.
And yet you are advocating for a 12 or 16 team playoff which would actually INCREASE the potential for a similar result? You know, team plays an easier regular season schedule, loses along the way, but gets into the playoff and wins the arbitrary games on the way to a championship.
I’m confused.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:28 AM
wow. what a gross misuse of a word.
arbitrary: based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:29 AM
urban will keep them from rotating defenders in 2013! take that shit to the bank.
/teller’s at lunch
January 8th, 2013 at 11:30 AM
if you thought that there was a definitive winner in last year’s LSU/bama game AND THEN say “titles are titles? that lazy, old sports mentality?”…well, it aint good, lawya.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:30 AM
LSU. The team that beat them. At home. During the much more important regular season.
LSU was just as good/deserving as Alabama. They weren’t better. That’s why they should have been co-champs.
I am an LSU fan and Alum. LSU did not deserve to be co-champs! In the game that mattered, LSU got stomped.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:30 AM
Been meaning to ask you something Spencer. Is it because Meyer is at tOSU that you no longer hate the “faggy” spread offense?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:31 AM
But seriously though, I hate having to care about NSD because my team didn’t win the natty. Instead of NSD being the cherry on top like it is for Bama fans, it’s the entire meal for UGA it seems. At least Louisville didn’t whoop that ass, though.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 AM
spencer goes #3 to hully gully football now.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 AM
na…i just learned more about it, more about the approach and pace and constraints and all that.
but it is still option based, and while it’s incredibly effective, i feel it’s only so on the college level (sustained success, that is) due to QB injury in the NFL, defensive sophistication and discipline and the wider hashmarks in college.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:32 AM
He’s a plant by JMac to increase commenting.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Bama is the best one loss team in the country. Woo-hoo.
ND=FRAUD.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 AM
This now tops Joe Bush not finding hot Asian women remotely attractive.
never said this. just said i’m no mole
/lucy liu is nice
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 AM
at least you get a main course and maybe some dessert. I get to pick the croutons off the salad.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 AM
there’s nothing wrong with doubting how “good” of a team alabama is…i mean, they werent really tested last night. but there isn’t a SINGLE college football team that couldve won 3/4 titles other than alabama. if there was, alabama wouldnt have won 3/4 titles. it’s really as simple as that.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:33 AM
ND=FRAUD.
I don’t know if I’d go this far but after not getting those two back to back calls in the first quarter they seemed to completely fall apart.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Good to know. You are obviously the much more rational tOSU fan on here, so its always more interesting to get your take on B1G football.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:36 AM
And we’d still be saying “3 in 4 years” and we’d still be impressed and it would still be a dynasty and now we’re back to square one.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:37 AM
They couldn’t stop Bama’s offense (missing tackle after tackle), they couldn’t move the ball on Bama’s defense, the two calls were bad but the outcome still would have been the same.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:37 AM
I can’t believe I’m asking this, but has the NHL released a schedule for the shortened season yet?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
seven straight for the sec is not an amazing accomplishment
/and i meant husker, not mole
//unless mole has an asian fetish too
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
They couldn’t stop Bama’s offense (missing tackle after tackle), they couldn’t move the ball on Bama’s defense, the two calls were bad but the outcome still would have been the same
No argument here. Alabama was ready to play that game. Notre Dame was not prepared in any way.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
The game that mattered? So winning in Tuscaloosa was pointless. Along with the entire regular season. Good to know.
To me, winning on the road during the regular season means a hell of a lot more than what happens in a mythical title game six weeks after the last snap of the season. I understand if I’m in the minority.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:38 AM
So Georgia actually gets a difficult schedule after not having to play LSU and Alabama in the regular season the last two years.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Can we get back to the nonsense that Saban is an average coach and only wins because he has significantly better talent?
LSU has every bit the talent that Bama has – Saban and his staff are just better coaches. The NCG last year was the perfect example. LSU won in November and got off the bus for the natty thinking they could do the exact same thing over again to win the Title. Saban had 5 weeks to prepare and then absolutely destroyed an LSU team that had equivalent or even better talent. Saban came out throwing the ball all over the yard on offense (a total departure from the Nov. game) and stacked the lines on D, daring J. Jefferson to throw the ball. After the 50th bubble screen, it was apparent LSU had nothing for Bama.
This is why every LSU fan was so pissed when Saban went to Bama – we KNEW he was a superior coach to anyone else in CFB and would resurrect the Bama program!
January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
appreciate it brother…us midwesterners gotta stick together against the slack-jawed southern horde.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Homemade croutons are wonderful.
Nope. No way, no how. Bama could have spotted ND 14 points and started the game with the Irish on the Bama 20 and that game was never going to be in doubt. ND was fraudy all fucking year, but they had the benefit of having a great schedule in name only. Mich, Mich St, BYU and USC were all below what they were last year. As someone said earlier, 2012 was the perfect storm for ND. They were never anything better than good.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:40 AM
The biggest hit AJ took all night was from his own center.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:41 AM
sigh…god damn you gene smith. yea, OSU wouldve been slaughtered last night, but they wouldve put up a better fight than ND.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:41 AM
That’s a fallacy, and you know it. College football is all about getting the opportunity to play for a title. Had OkSt been in last year’s title game as they should have been, we’re not having this conversation.
Was Alabama really the best one-loss team this year? Who knows? But they got the opportunity over others, mostly because of the name of their jersey and their conference’s recent history.
Alabama certainly made the most of their opportunities. But to say no one else could have done what Alabama did or they would have is just wrong.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Yup. I can’t wait. They could start 1-3 or 4-0…seriously. Next year is going to be awesome.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Nope. No way, no how. Bama could have spotted ND 14 points and started the game with the Irish on the Bama 20 and that game was never going to be in doubt. ND was fraudy all fucking year, but they had the benefit of having a great schedule in name only. Mich, Mich St, BYU and USC were all below what they were last year. As someone said earlier, 2012 was the perfect storm for ND. They were never anything better than good.
I think you looked way too far into my comment.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Gary Andersen was Urban’s apprentice, the tide is turning
January 8th, 2013 at 11:42 AM
Every week is a playoff, so we are told.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 AM
nike has a cavity back driver. i am confused if this will be any good.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 AM
what other team was in the position to be named to 3/4 title games? THAT’S why alabama’s the only one who could’ve done it.
you obviously have no idea how difficult and how much luck it takes to win an NC. simply HAVING THE CHANCE is impressive, let alone winning.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Is that the slutty daughter from Modern Family?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Then why didn’t The Great Saban win at home during the regular season?
I never said Saban is an average or shitty coach. Just that’s he’s not a great one. His true talents lie in program building, which he does as well as anyone.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Is that the slutty daughter from Modern Family?
That’s her. It’s another case of an actor playing someone younger than she actually is.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Can we get back to the nonsense that Saban is an average coach and only wins because he has significantly better talent?I think guys like Mack Brown, Jimbo Fisher, and Lane Kiffin prove that it takes a lot more than just talent to win.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:45 AM
To me, winning on the road during the regular season means a hell of a lot more than what happens in a mythical title game six weeks after the last snap of the season. I understand if I’m in the minority.
Its only a “mythical title game” to you. To everyone else, it is ACTUALLY the championship game. All the other games, while admittedly important, lead to an opportunity to play and potentially win the natty. Bama won that game against LSU and are thus the champs.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:46 AM
dude…dude…my god man.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
im not going to rake saban over teh coals for losing to a team with like fifty fucking future NFL’lers by a FG in OT when they absolutely raped them away from tuscaloosa a few months later.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
try your best to win them all
and one day time will tell
when you’re the one that’s standing there
you’ve reached the final bell
Bama’s the best around
nothing is gonna ever keep them down
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
I never said Saban is an average or shitty coach. Just that’s he’s not a great one. His true talents lie in program building, which he does as well as anyone.
Were you dropped on your head as a child?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
His true talents lie in program building, which he does as well as anyone.
agreed. he gets the talent in the door, hires good coaches, brings in booster money, then come game day he whips it out and goes number 3 for 60 minutes.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Yes…because the system bent over backwards to award them opportunities other teams weren’t. Alabama definitely earned the right to play Texas and was as deserving as a bunch of other teams this year. Last year? No way.
Which is why I said college football is all about having the opportunity to play for titles.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:47 AM
sorry, i just had to read this again to make sure you said that nick saban is not a great coach because all he does is build incredible programs year after year after year.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:48 AM
I’m a Big 12 honk, but at this point, with the lack of meaningful inter-conference games in college football, you have to go with the SEC team in the title game if it’s a close call. There just isn’t enough true data to definitively say Okie Light should have been in there over Bama. The rematch thing shouldn’t be a factor. Pick the top two teams.
Agree with Husker…if Louisville and OSU are undefeated next year, I’m in favor of the 1 loss SEC team being in the title game.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:49 AM
ok, so howabout this…no other team in college football has been in the position to win TWO titles in that span. not LSU, not oklahoma, not oregon…just alabama.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:49 AM
Is everything all right at home?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:49 AM
The truth tastes bitter.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:50 AM
im not going to rake saban over teh coals for losing to a team with like fifty fucking future NFL’lers by a FG in OT when they absolutely raped them away from tuscaloosa a few months later.
Well said. And, let’s not forget that Bama should have won the game. How many field goals did there combination of kickers miss – 3, 4?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
To me, sports should involve less thinking when watching on my couch or when I’m at the bar getting a tipsy with my buddies. Then again, I’m a simple man and feel saner because of this.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
The internet has reached it’s full level of awesome when we’re hating on Nick Saban for not being all that special the day after winning his 4th national title and third in four years.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
Yes…because the system bent over backwards to award them opportunities other teams weren’t.
agreed again. of all the metrics the bcs uses, the one i hate is “is it bama? Yes, then they go.”
January 8th, 2013 at 11:51 AM
richardson played with three broken ribs all year and still had over 1,000 yards and double digit touchdowns for a bad team with a horrible playcaller in the toughest division in the NFL.
he’ll be fine.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Mack is 150-43 at Texas. 10-4 in bowls, a natty, a runner up finish, and 2-0 in other BCS bowls. I’d say he’s won.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Bama was the better team, but OKST was more deserving and should have been in that game.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:52 AM
They were the better team that day too, just saw their kicker miss three times
Queefer is every type of sports talk radio show caller rolled into one sensational internet being, I love it
January 8th, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Well, Oregon kind of did. They played for the title two years ago and had as much right as Alabama or ND did to play last night.
Ugh. This line of thought is what’s wrong with the current system.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:55 AM
But the games weren’t important last year. That Alabama-LSU game was hyped as the Game of the Century, and it turned out to be utterly meaningless.
I’m not either. Alabama is going to lose games. My point is that we’re calling Saban a legendary coach. My stance is that he has – in varying degrees – better players than every single team he runs up against (including LSU last year). To me, those are the games where coaching really matters because there’s not a giant talent gap.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:56 AM
I don’t think Saban is going to have a 3-year stretch where he goes 22-16.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:57 AM
so did bear bryant and knute rockney and woody hayes and john robinson and howard schellenberger and jimmy johnson and tom osbourne and barry switzer and…
sorry, what was your point again?
January 8th, 2013 at 11:58 AM
I’m not hating on Saban. I think he’s one of – if not the best – program builder in the land, a skill that matters more than coaching in CFB. I simply dont think he’s a legendary coach.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:58 AM
You don’t think it will happen in a 4-team setting?
Ohio State 13-0
Alabama 13-0
Georgia 12-1
Oregon 12-1
Louisville 12-0
Which team is getting left out?
Hint: It’s the undefeated one. Having a 0 in your loss column does not make you one of the best 4 teams in the nation.
January 8th, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Mack is no Saban. By a longshot.
I’m sure Saban had similar stretches at Michigan St., however.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 PM
You are an idiot
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 PM
so there’s one that was worthy in TWO of four years…none that were worthy in three.
three years like this rarely happens. hell, osu won like 10-12 games per year throughout a decade, played for three and only won 1. USC was dominant most of the decade and only won 1. florida has two, but not 3/4.
it’s really damn hard to be this successful this consistently with three very different rosters.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:00 PM
Amazing that UGA had their awful run recently in the SEC and they were 24-16. I didn’t realize Texas was that bad from a record standpoint. I love it.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Don’t forget the two Big XII championships in 15 years.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:01 PM
But then why was ND there this year? In every other year other than 2011, the metric has been “most deserving team.” That was changed last year to make room for Alabama. I have a problem with that. Furthermore, if that’s going to be the new metric, then stick to it.
Yeah, this.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
My point is that we’re calling Saban a legendary coach. My stance is that he has – in varying degrees – better players than every single team he runs up against (including LSU last year). To me, those are the games where coaching really matters because there’s not a giant talent gap.
Coaching doesn’t just happen on game day! Saban is an outstanding game day coach, probably even better at drawing up a game plan, AND takes extremely talented kids and coaches them into even better players.
Let’s take LSU as an example again (since that is what I know). Miles recruits outstanding football players. But rarely do you see them get appreciably better over the course of their careers. And, let’s not even talk about game day coaching – LSU on offense is incapable of making in-game adjustments (Chavis is much better on the other side).
It’s not a talent gap issue – Saban is a superior coach. He could beat Bama with LSU’s players and routinely beats LSU with his players.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
so Bama losing to LSU is worse than Okie State losing to fucking Iowa State?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
That is easily the most amazing Mack Brown stat. That shit blows my mind. The gap between Texas/OU and everyone else in that league was vast the moment Osborne retired. Him only having two titles is stunning.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:03 PM
No. Bama’s loss was better. But OKST had several good wins. Bama had Arkansas and that was it. On the whole OKST had a better resume.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:03 PM
In the days before NCAA scholarship limits, Bear Bryant was renowned for signing up every player he could simply to keep them off other teams’ rosters. Which I guess in retrospect makes him not a great or legendary coach, just an average one who could recruit talent.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Did you mean to give Alabama a loss? Sure, if Bama and OSU are both undefeated, they’re in. Full stop. But give Alabama one loss, with a weak non-conference schedule and a conference schedule that avoids the other division’s big three? I might have a problem with that.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Yes. But it also helps when your opponents in two of the three title games are the two worst BCS title participants teams ever.
Texas is what, 4-8 if they don’t have McCoy that year? I mean, if we’re being honest, that’s the quality of team Alabama faced four years ago. ND was a lot closer to an 8-4 team than a 12-0 one. You don’t choose who you play and Alabama shouldn’t apologize. But if we’re discussing how impressive a dynasty is, this kind of thing HAS to factor in.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:05 PM
Comparing losses is a horrible idea. This is how FSU got in over Miami because Miami lost to Washington but FSU lost to…Miami.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:05 PM
He could take his’n and beat your’n and take your’n and beat his’n? Hmmm, where have I heard that before?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:05 PM
No. Saban is a great coach.
If he is not, who is?
Butch Davis is a program builder…and destroyer, ask UNC.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 PM
would you mind making a list of legendary coaches then? just a short list will suffice, and then briefly explain how they are so vastly superior to what Saban is doing? what are Saban’s coaching drawbacks that you have such a problem with?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 PM
$20 he throws out David Shaw
January 8th, 2013 at 12:07 PM
No. Say two powers go undefeated. That means they’re both in the 4-team playoff with two spots remaining. If L’ville is sitting at 12-0, but UGA/A&M/UF is 12-1 (or 11-1) and Oregon is 12-1, L’ville isn’t getting in, and I wouldn’t have a single issue with that.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Saban is a better coach than Les Miles. No question about it. So are half the coaches in college football.
This is how the SEC media machine was capable of changing the argument. In every other season, the SEC has crowed about ‘WHO DID YOU BEAT?? WE PLAY IN THE TOUGHEST CONFERENCE IN AMERICA!!” But when they wanted to make room for Alabama, the most important metric suddenly became “who did you lose to?” Interestingly enough, “Who did you lose to?” would have probably kept Alabama out this year. Oregon’s home loss to Stanford was probably a hair better than Bama’s home loss to A&M.
I’d say it’s amazing that the tactic worked, but Les Miles’ wife successfully convinced America that being “undefeated in regulation” was somehow the same as being “undefeated.”
January 8th, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Comparing a setting where one team directly beat the other with last year’s stuff is not apples to apples. But you can’t disagree with losing by 3 in OT to LSU being “better” than losing to Iowa State can you?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
I never said Saban is an average or shitty coach. Just that’s he’s not a great one
Definitely no John Harbaugh
January 8th, 2013 at 12:11 PM
I agree, but it seems like Queefer is hung up on Bama losing to LSU and not bringing up Okie St losing to Iowa State.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Ah, sorry. Didn’t know you were talking about the plus-one format. That does make it a complex issue. There would be a cry from many about the SEC getting 2 teams in over an undefeated team, I’m sure. I don’t know where I stand on that honestly. Especially if you want to preserve the sanctity of the regular season.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:12 PM
How has Queefer not been banned yet
January 8th, 2013 at 12:13 PM
I’m hung up on LSU because it was a unique situation with the rematch. Putting Alabama in the title game essentially rendered the entire 2011 regular season meaningless.
Why would I be banned? What rules or whatever am I breaking?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:14 PM
I think it’s clear that the playoff is the beginning of the “mega conference” idea bearing fruit. Teams like Louisville will be forced into the B12 or some other league because this will happen to them. When you go 12-0 and get left out, you realize that the only way to get in is to be a part of the club.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:14 PM
I’m more embarrassed of being a PSU alum/fan because of Queefer instead of Sandusky/Paterno. I might be speaking in hyperbole here.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
No it didn’t. OKST, Oregon and Boise lost.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
It was just a joke, buddy
/I’m not your buddy, pal
January 8th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
I’m not sure what to think of him. Sometimes I think he’s completely ineffective. He struggles with personnel decisions (retaining Cam Cameron for as long as he did, not putting McKinnie in at LT until last week when he was clearly the best option). He also struggles with game management (not calling a TO against Denver with a first and goal at the 3 and three TOs. Flacco threw a rushed INT the next play).
But he manages a tough locker room with a lot of egos really well. And the results speak for themselves.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
This reads like the college superfans who try and belittle the NFL at every turn if a team who didn’t finish with the #1 seed makes it to the Super Bowl
January 8th, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Saban has a long list of results he would like you to check out.
Who does that? Link?
January 8th, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Sure it did. That game had no bearing on the national title when all was said and done. The “regular season is a playoff” format failed that year. The first Bama-LSU game eliminated nobody.
Had OK St. lost to ISU in Sept, they would have been in.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:18 PM
So did Alabama. I’m not sure what you mean here. Because they lost earlier it’s somehow better?
/releases balloons
January 8th, 2013 at 12:19 PM
I’ve stopped caring about meaningful seasons in sports after a 8 seed won the Stanley Cup last year.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:19 PM
TBL likes to see graduates from “The Jascon McIntyre School for Kids Who Dig Their Heels in Deep and Want to Do Other Stuff Good Too” soar.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Comon sense, logic, etc.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:21 PM
I figured caring about hockey means one has given up on sports altogether.
Nah, seriously, college football likes to hold itself up as the lone sport where the regular season matters. Until it doesn’t, at all.
That was my whole problem with the rematch, regardless of who was involved. Alabama had their chance to win the division, conference and national title appearance, and they lost. And there was no consequences for that loss. Again, I understand if no one agrees with me here.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 PM
They all lost, which meant you had several teams at 11-1. That meant you had to look at several things to determine who moved on. WHile I think OKST should have been the choice, the fact that a choice had to be made actually gave the regular season MORE credence. Every game should have been looked at thoroughly. My problem is that I don’t think that happened.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:22 PM
trolltastic
January 8th, 2013 at 12:23 PM
Fantastic.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:27 PM
I see where you’re going with this, I just disagree. You can’t say the regular season was given more credence, then say “but it was totally ignored” in the next. If every game should have been examined but wasn’t, then the regular season didn’t matter.
If you strip the names on the jerseys, ignore conference and history, and just examine the resumes, OKST was the clear choice. Frankly, I really would have liked to see a great offense like that take on LSU’s great defense.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:28 PM
The fact that the media fucked up and didn’t do it’s job doesn’t make the sports regular season less important. It makes the media bad at its job.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:28 PM
We’ve moved passed having to introduce a statement with this
January 8th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
I’m still interested in seeing Queefers list of elite college coaches that doesn’t include Saban.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:32 PM
If you want strictly Xs and Os/more-with-less guys: Kelly, Peterson, Shaw, Franklin, BOB.
But program building is part of CFB. If you factor that in, Saban is probably on the list.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:33 PM
If you want strictly Xs and Os/more-with-less guys: Kelly, Peterson, Shaw, Franklin, BOB.
$20 to Butters.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:36 PM
OSU would have played ND for the championship and Alabama would’ve played inthe Sugar Bowl.
Queefer, you’re changing the goalposts. You first argued that Saban wasn’t a great coach. Now you seem to be conceding the great coach argument and saying he’s not a legedary coach.
January 8th, 2013 at 12:38 PM
Alright, I’m throwing in the towel on believing this guy is legit…one year of coaching a mediocre team to a mediocre record thanks to the worst Big Ten of my lifetime and suddenly he’s better than Saban, only someone looking to annoy internet people would say that
January 8th, 2013 at 12:43 PM
I was just fucking around with BOB. Come on.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:35 PM
This is far more asinine than anything else he has written thus far. Now he knows more about Ravens personnel, and is qualified to critique, Harbaugh?
January 8th, 2013 at 10:28 PM
The fact that you categorized this as the “more with less guys” and didn’t include Bill Snyder proves beyond any doubt that you just aren’t much of a college football fan. Bill Snyder is the king of making chicken salad out of chicken shit. Petrino is another one.
January 8th, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Mike Riley