Doug Baldwin’s Ball-Fake That Clowned Jordan Pugh of the Redskins Was Sick
Doug Baldwin, the undrafted Stanford receiver with 4.4 40 speed, had the move of Wild Card weekend.
Late 2nd quarter. Washington 14, Seattle 10.
The Redskins lost Baldwin in what appears to be a prevent defense, and Baldwin caught a pass at the 50 with nobody within six yards of him. Baldwin spun and raced upfield, with Redskins safety Jordan Pugh charging at him. Baldwin faked right with the ball (1st GIF) and a hard plant (2nd GIF), then darted the other way around Pugh, untouched, for an extra 13 yards.
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January 7th, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Ball fake?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:05 PM
more like a jump-cut with no jump.
i mean, it’s not all that impressive…baldwin had all the leverage and the safety made a horrible move. guess the youtube-ry of it gets fan interest thru the roof…
January 7th, 2013 at 12:06 PM
I haven’t been this excited for a Falcons game in a long time. Gonna be a bitch of a game for Atlanta, but it’s one they can (and should win). I really wanted it to be the Sat night game, though. Oh well.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Pugh has been a sieve all season. Fuck him.
That game last night was Doughty’s best as a Redskin, though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:07 PM
as someone who was frothing at the mouth before this season’s browns/KC tilt, comments like these make me wonder what it’s actually like to root for a winning team.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:09 PM
problem for ATL will be the Seattle corners are pretty damn good. basically emerging now as one of the best secondaries in the league.
also, Shanahan had a great early game plan. I don’t know if Mike Smith is capable of something like that.
Redskins 5th best rush D, couldn’t stop Marshawn
Falcons have 21st rated run D. good luck.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:09 PM
My favorite part of the game last night was speaking to a Skins fan via twitter who couldn’t understand why ATL fans wanted Washington and their 1-legged QB.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Yeah..they’re the one (or one of the few) teams that match up well with Julio and Roddy. This game comes down to pass protection and Julio as far as I’m concerned. Julio will shit all over the tall corner for SEA. If Ryan has time, Julio should dominate.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Enjoy getting the Kenny Albert, Moose Johnston and Tony Siragusa treatment.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
agree he had a very good game. Quiet game from Kerrigan
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Whenever I see this phrase end a comment, I always read it in the voice of the bad guy from Taken.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Cleveland Browns fans, envying the “winning team” that is the one with six playoff victories in their nearly fifty years of existence.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:11 PM
That CB/WR battle next week will be awesome. Will be interesting to see which CB matches up with Julio, and which one matches with Roddy; or do they just end up playing sides?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:11 PM
I thought Lynch’s move on Hall (I think) on the TD run was more impressive. That ‘turf’ though was just awful.
I like the Atlanta matchup for Seattle, but it’s going to be a tough game.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:12 PM
No clue. I’m not sure how SEA does it. It has to hurt SEA not having Clemons, either. Not sure how much though. Who will match up with Tony G for SEA?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 PM
That’s been his knock all season, follow up a good game with a stinker. He got burned more than once on Wilson’s option runs.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:13 PM
That was awesome. There’s not a more loathsome player in football than DeAngelo Hall.
WTF was up with that? The field looked shitty from the opening kickoff on.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Undrafted player that makes an impact? What’s that?
/Mayhew’d
January 7th, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Poor Marshawn Lynch, had a fantastic season but all the talk’s been about the QB and even on his TD run Wilson sprinting downfield to throw a weak block seemed to get more attention
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Probably Leroy Hill.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
I think Seattle generally does not matchup but plays sides. I’m comfortable with any match up with Sherman, but Browner can be beat. And losing Clemons will definitely hurt their already limited pass rush.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
I root for a “winning” team but I just spent the last 15 minutes staring at All Day’s career numbers trying to figure out if he can break both the career yardage and career TD records before he turns 34.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Also whatever it is they do in Houston to keep the field at the ready, it’s not working
January 7th, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Or Chancellor/Thomas could do it as well.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
Paul Allen just backed a cement mixer truck filled with Skittles to Marshawns house. He’ll be fine.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:16 PM
It won’t hurt too much…they’ll just play Irvin who will play against the pass and not worry too much about a sub-standard rush attack from the Falcons.
They’ll need to be worried about Rodgers on screens though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Browner was getting lit up last night, but WASH couldn’t get the ball to his man. ATL has to like seeing that. Lynch and the zone-read worries me, but luckily for ATL they’ve at least seen it with Newton. They didn’t defend it well at all, though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:17 PM
As soon as they said it was green only because it had been painted you knew it was going to be bad. When both Clemons and RGIII go down without being touched that’s unacceptable.
You would think with a QB like RGIII Washington would want to take advantage of that with Field Turf or something.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Oooooooooooooh Eeeee
January 7th, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Ryan, Julio and Roddy all have to have big games, but if Quizz breaks out on swing passes and dump offs, ATL will hang 25+ on SEA. ATL needs to use him frequently (20 touches).
January 7th, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Actually Thom Brenemen and Brian Billick have been promoted to call this game for Fox.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:20 PM
This morning, Clemons agent blamed the shitty field for his knee injury
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2013/01/07/chris-clemonss-agent-blames-crappy-fedex-field-for-seahawks-injury/
January 7th, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Ew. Maybe I should go to the game after all.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:24 PM
Seattle is supposed to be shaking in their boots about the poor man’s Darren Sproles?
January 7th, 2013 at 12:25 PM
More like poor man’s MJD. And no, I’m not saying they should be shaking in their boots. I’m saying ATL can chew them up on a couple of plays each quarter by isolating him in space.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:28 PM
I think it’s all about Gonzalez. If he isn’t exploiting the middle of the field, I don’t know how Atlanta is going to move the ball.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Seahags secondary will lock down the Falcons receivers. Falcons will be forced to try to win with Turner and his 2.8 YPC.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
How is Rodgers in pass protection? Baker and Clabo are going to have their hands full on the edges. Without having to worry about the QB breaking contain due to lack of discipline, I feel like Bruce Irvin could be unleashed even more this game. Gonna be tough to get the ball deep to Julio.
And now we know the Seahawks have a QB the can lead them back if they get down 14 early.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Guaranteed if I tried that at 1/8th the speed my knees would snap.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:31 PM
That team frightens me, if the Packers win Saturday think I’ll still pull for the Falcons…mighty fine passing weather in the Dome
January 7th, 2013 at 12:31 PM
Great point. ATL needs to pay him whatever he wants to come back next year. He’s almost unstoppable on 3rd and medium.
I mean, I guess we do, but if RG3 is healthy that game is over before it begins. That was the smallest 14-point lead I’ve ever seen. Technically you’re right though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:33 PM
I’m a big SF fan on Saturday. Should Atlanta win on Sunday I wan’t no part of Rodgers coming back to Atlanta.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:36 PM
What sucks is that the AFC is just a waiting game until DEN and NE play two weeks from now. What is Manning’s record against BAL? Something crazy good if I remember right. And we all know HOU is getting whooped. Both NFC games should be great to watch, though.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Hopefully they don’t get behind a big 14 point lead next time, since we don’t know how Wilson can handle that.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:40 PM
And we all know HOU is getting whooped
Sadly I think you’re right. This team shot it’s wad during the back to back OT wins.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Dammit, “its”.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:40 PM
Agree on this. It’s been a problem for Seattle at times this year (though they’ve been better at it lately).
Would love to see this. It certainly helped Irvin yesterday when they knew RGIII wasn’t going to be able to run away from them.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:41 PM
In classic Atlanta fashion, they’ll probably jump out to a 10-0 lead, stop SEA and get the ball back on their 35 with a chance to bury the game and go three and out.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:41 PM
7-2, he’s won the last 7.
January 7th, 2013 at 12:42 PM
hey pugh….bellybutton!
January 7th, 2013 at 1:01 PM
Allen’s lucky Lynch didn’t steal the cement truck after the Skittles were unloaded.
/thug life
January 7th, 2013 at 1:02 PM
They havent beaten Manning since 2001.
I give Baltimore a 35 percent chance of winning that game. I think its going to be a lot closer than people think.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
I was wrong about the Seahawks, but I really think the Skins win the game if they take out RGIII after that hopscotch run.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:10 PM
Not sure Baltimore’s offense of “Throw deep verticals up the sidelines and hope for best” will work against a good defense this week…also Peyton finishes the drives the rookie couldn’t, current line of 9 feels about 4 points too low
January 7th, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Couple reasons why this one could be different:
1. Bryant McKinnie is finally out of the doghouse and playing left tackle, allowing Oher to move to right tackle where he’s much better. This should be a much better line than the one Baltimore had the last time they played the Broncos, who got a ton of pressure on Flacco early on.
2. The defense is kinda healthy for the first time this season. Webb is still out, but Pollard, Lewis and Suggs will all be on the field. Denver didn’t have to face that last time around.
Like I said, I don’t think Baltimore has a great chance, especially going on the road with Denver coming off a bye. But they have a better one than most think. Nine seems really high.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:20 PM
nine seems about right to get 50-50 play
i’d go broncs m10. i foresee carnage
January 7th, 2013 at 1:27 PM
I cant remember the last time the Ravens were blown out in a playoff game.
- Lost by 3 last year after a dropped TD and missed FG
- Lost by 7 to the Steelers in 2010
- Lost by 17 to the Colts in 2009 (this one counts)
- Lost by 9 to the Steelers in 2008
- Lost by 9 to the Colts in 2006
So one in the last five appearances. Could Denver wax that ass? No question. I’d be surprised if it happened, though.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:29 PM
Interesting that the “one that counts” is the only Flacco vs. Peyton matchup in the bunch.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Yeah, because the way a QB performs in his second year is always the same as he performs in his fifth. Peyton is still in his prime like he was in four years ago, too. Definitely means then result will be the same.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:32 PM
I cant remember the last time the Ravens were blown out in a playoff game.
please bet on the ravens to cover and tell two friends and so on and so on….
and i will happily then take denver m7
January 7th, 2013 at 1:35 PM
This is normally true, but we’re talking about Joe Flacco here…that career plateau was set early on
January 7th, 2013 at 1:35 PM
FWIW, I think Baltimore either wins or gets its shit pushed in.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 PM
He has been elite for a while.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:36 PM
Correct without sarcasm. Did you watch him this year?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
I watched him throw duck balls and rack up tons of garbage time yards against bad teams. I’m only being slightly facetious, there.
Peyton is still a very good QB. He is not who he was in 2009.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:39 PM
jim miller said this morning on radio he would take flacco over matty ice
January 7th, 2013 at 1:41 PM
my guess is that Thomas is going to be spending a lot of time helping Browner with Julio…Seattle will probably be putting Chancellor or one of their linebackers on Gonzalez. the Falcons would be well served to try to find him early and often, I think.
I also don’t think that Decker, Thomas, Stokley, et al, will be dropping as many passes as the Colts’ receivers did yesterday.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:42 PM
How many elite qbs are there?
January 7th, 2013 at 1:43 PM
My brother is a Broncos fan and we were talking about this. Presumably, the team has gotten much better since early losses to good teams, based one just having more time together and Peyton getting healthier. But they haven’t beaten any good teams in that stretch either. They could be anywhere from “an elite team that is far improved from the Patriots/Atlanta losses” to “a mediocre team that feasted on an easy schedule”.
That said, I’ve looked forward to betting against Bert in the playoffs all year, so I’d take Denver.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:43 PM
Who’s Jim Miller? Serious Q.
The narrative that Flacco sucks always cracks me up. There are maybe 5-7 guys clearly better at the position in the NFL, a few who are probably as good, and the rest clearly worse. I’d put Matt Ryan in that second group, but I’d much rather have Flacco. People consistently forget the weapons Ryan has and the fact that he plays 9 games a year indoors. Add in the fact that he, for whatever reason, is terribly unclutch in the postseason, and I’ll take Flacco. The difference is probably negligible though.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:44 PM
Brady, Peyton Manning, Brees, Rogers. That’s it.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
LB on Gonzalez will be a field day. Jones-Browner would be an awesome matchup. I’ll take Jones
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Needs more talk of QB wins, talking points, blah blah
January 7th, 2013 at 1:45 PM
People really still say stuff like this, incredible
January 7th, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Yeah, they definitely look more comfortable as a unit now. It’s probably a mix of both – a bad schedule and an improving offense.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:47 PM
As a Patriots fan, I want no part of a road game in Denver, I know that.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:49 PM
You can tell the Ravens are excited about keeping an upper tier QB like Joe Flacco what with all of their rush to get a contract extension before he hits free agency.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
jim miller, sparty legend. nfl journeyman
he also said that rg3 should have been out there, players play with pain, way it is, etc
‘i once played a whole seasoon with two torn rotator cuffs!’
January 7th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
Way tougher than home to Balt, but I think it’s very winnable. Pats offense can still be dominant when healthy
January 7th, 2013 at 1:50 PM
I refuse to accept that the variance between regular season and post-season stats in sports is due solely to a smaller sample size. If I thought it would change any minds, I’d go about setting out to show that…
January 7th, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Yes, people say true things all the time.
Matt Ryan career postseason stats: 3 TDs, 4 INTs, 71 passer rating, never cracked 200 yards passing.
Thats nearly 20 points lower than his career regular season rating. But yeah, he’s fine in the playoffs. Super clutch.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:51 PM
so he doesn’t have the “clutch gene”? thanks for the insight, Mr. Bayless.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:52 PM
Sadly the Patriots could win or lose to any team left, AFC or NFC. I don’t see their offense getting shut down though, so it’ll take a good offensive performance. Denver is the only AFC team left that has a better than 35% shot at beating NE, IMO
January 7th, 2013 at 1:52 PM
FWIW, I was really pulling for Cincy Saturday so Baltimore could play NE instead of Denver. Wasn’t meant to be. Maybe we’ll get a shot in the title game.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:53 PM
Gotta control for better opponents, but it’d be an interesting analysis of variance, had I the time to explore it.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Well it also would have something to do with theoretically playing better defenses for the sum of the postseason sample but the “clutch” talking point will always be a sports talk radio topic to me
January 7th, 2013 at 1:54 PM
Every Pats fan I know wants to avoid Baltimore like the plague. I think they stand a worse chance against Denver, but the NE faithful doesnt seem to want any part of the Ravens.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:54 PM
I tend to agree, but define “good.” They won 2 road games against playoff teams (Cincy & Balt). It’s not like they were eking out games either like Atlanta was all year.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:55 PM
BAL definitely has a complex against NE… I still hate PIT/DEN more (DEN was 3rd till Peyton got there), but there is definitely some history with the Ravens. Going back, in my opinion, to 2007 when the Pats stole a game to stay undefeated with the help of some questionable calls.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 PM
It’s strange, because I look at Baltimore and see the weakest team left, but they do show up for the Patriots. I just don’t see Flacco winning a shootout, especially on the road.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 PM
Yes and no (and BTW, clutch is sort of a catch-all for the ability to win important games against quality opponents). You’re not always going to be playing better defenses simply because you’re in the playoffs. NE and Baltimore have below average defenses this year. Same with Atlanta and GB. Playoff teams, particularly in today’s NFL, enjoy success through offense just as much as through defense.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:56 PM
I only really fault him in the NY game. His rookie year was a all gravy, and the GB game was never in doubt due to Rodgers going mental against ATL. Last year was just awful, though.
January 7th, 2013 at 1:58 PM
pretty much. my problem with “clutch” is that it usually means whatever the hell the speaker wants it to mean, and it’s an easy way to criticize a player if you have nothing else to say about them. it’s like when Cowherd will rag on a player for “not being a leader.”
January 7th, 2013 at 1:58 PM
FWIW the Atl offensive performance at NYG last year was a true stinker
January 7th, 2013 at 1:58 PM
I’m not sure it would be a shootout – Ravens run Rice/Pierce a lot and limit NE possessions. If it was, the Ravens can take solace in the fact that they already won a shootout with New England this year (albeit at home).
Put it this way: I like Baltimore’s chances against NE better than Denver.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:00 PM
OL couldn’t block NY from the jump, and by the third quarter Ryan succumbed to happy feet even when he had time. Just an all-around shit show of a game.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:00 PM
The GB game was probably unwinnable even if Ryan played incredible, true. That said, he played pretty poorly regardless.
I like Ryan as a QB, I’m just amazed how many people overlook his advantages and playoff history while at the same time looking for every possible nit to pick against a guy like Flacco.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Flacco fails both the eye test and stats evaluation…he’s someone we should all be in agreement about yet here we are again
January 7th, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I think you’re putting way too much stock in three games. Pretty small sample size, especially when you factor in one of the three was his rookie year. Having said that, if he lays an egg this year, I will be able to do nothing but nod in agreement when people rip him. Though watch him throw for 3 TDs, 350 yards and no INTs and lose. Will be great listening to morons rip him for his 0-4 record then.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:04 PM
but the “clutch” talking point will always be a sports talk radio topic to me
i think the dropped pass in a key situation is choking, but if an easy catch were made in that situation i wouldnt call it clutch. clutch is playing at your best in a do-or-die game
i believe in clutch insofar as someone’s performance in very important games or parts of those games
January 7th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Perhaps. To me, it’s more about the ridiculous advantages a QB in Atlanta has at his disposal than the playoff losses. It would be a lot easier to defend Ryan if he had won just ONE of those games.
I’ll have some respect for Ryan, win or lose, if he plays well against a legit Seahawks defense this weekend.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:05 PM
He’s a talent guy. The arm tantalizes. Needs to get more consistent, but the ability is definitely there
January 7th, 2013 at 2:06 PM
With only 3 postseason games it wouldnt be very meaningful.
What i think is interesting is how much Brady’s postseason #’s take a dip, even moreso than Peyton Manning’s. 7.5 Y/A in the regular season, 6.6 in the playoffs.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:07 PM
Clutch moments exist, defining a player as being “clutch” in that it is a predictive factor regarding future performance is silly
January 7th, 2013 at 2:09 PM
So going 4/10 with 34 yards and a pick, but getting the win over one of those three would have been good? That’s what annoys me.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:10 PM
I’m cuurious to know if Brady is “unclutch”?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Trent Dilfer and Elvis Grbac won playoff games with the Ravens defense. Atlanta has a culture of losing going back 4 decades. Different circumstances.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Christian Ponder just wins football games.
/beats it into the ground
//has nothing else
January 7th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
he’s someone we should all be in agreement about yet here we are again
i apologize if i restarted this with the miller comment. fwiw, i have never been impressed with flacco outside of a throw here and there, similar to but less frequently than cutler. cutler though is a better runner
January 7th, 2013 at 2:15 PM
E. Manning: 58.6 career completion percentage, 82.7 career QB rating, 230 YPG, 1.46: TD/INT ratio, 7.1 YPA
Flacco: 60.5 career completion percentage, 86.3 career QB rating, 220.4 YPG, 1.96:1 TD/INT ratio, 7.1 YPA
But yeah, Flacco fails the stats argument when compared to an “elite” QB.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:16 PM
he was clutch, but now he isn’t. similarly Peyton Manning wasn’t clutch, but then he was clutch for a few years, and now he isn’t anymore.
/science
January 7th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
Some of that may be a factor of playing outdoors in January. Add in the improved defenses and voila!
I just calculated Manning’s Y/A in outdoor playoff games: 6.3
January 7th, 2013 at 2:17 PM
how many people who aren’t Giants fans or ESPN pundits think Eli is an elite quarterback, though? honest question.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM
defining a player as being “clutch” in that it is a predictive factor regarding future performance is silly
agree, it is game to game. however, if a guy has a history of clutchy performances, it’s fair to rank him among others with similar histories, or characterize him as such. but to base a prediction on it, no. many clutch performances have come from one-hit wonders
timmie smith, ny giants wr with headcatch
January 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Nah it doesnt work that way, once clutch always clutch. Derek Jeter could go 0-20 with 10 errors in the postseason and they’d still find a way to blame A-Rod. Likewise once people started calling Chauncey Billups “Mr. Big Shot” only his made shots counted as “big shots.”
January 7th, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Eli turns the ball over too much, I don’t lump him with the best in the game
January 7th, 2013 at 2:20 PM
Again, how many qbs are elite?
January 7th, 2013 at 2:20 PM
No. Flacco was terrible in that game. He was also a second year QB on the road.
Last three years (so far) in the playoffs: 9 TDs, 2 INTs, 98.9 QB rating
Yet all anyone talks about is the 4/10 game, and they label him a fraud. The numbers tell a completely different story.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Completely subjective, but I’d wager a majority. He and Rothelisberger are considered elite QBs because of Rings Bitch. Some of that is probably because of the ESPN narrative. Regardless, I think a majority consider Eli a HOFer.
Point is, there are four guys — Brady, Manning, Brees, Rogers — clearly better than Flacco. Maybe a few guys — Eli, Ben, Ryan — as good, and the rest below. Flacco isn’t elite. But he’s a whole lot better than OK, both in terms of stats and results. Just because he’s not in the Big Four doesn’t mean he sucks.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Incidentally, Flacco in outdoor road playoff games: 6.2 YPA. Almost Manning-like.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:28 PM
Wonder what the average YPA in outdoor playoff games is?
Of all the current QBs, I think Eli is the closest Flacco comparison. Similar stat lines, similar teams, similar streakiness. They’re awfully alike.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:28 PM
You fail to acknowledge the shared letters between Manning’s first name and the word “elite”.
Just like you can’t spell “Flaccid” without “Flacco”. It’s a lot easier than coming up with cogent arguments.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:28 PM
So does the dome thing hurt Manning’s legacy? It’s rarely talked about. I suppose it will be talked about even less if he wins this year.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Except for those two pesky Super Bowls
January 7th, 2013 at 2:29 PM
well, I was being sarcastic.
then again that doesn’t stop Boston media types (and some Pats fans, it seems) from thinking that Brady has “gone soft” and “doesn’t care as much” in recent years.
I hate the “elite quarterback” argument because it’s very nebulous and changes all the time, but if I had to answer I’d say Manning, Rodgers, Brady. maybe Brees.
Eli is like Roethlisberger for me, definitely very good and someone who I’d worry about facing in a big game, but just flawed enough to not be “elite.” they also get far too much credit for their teams’ first Super Bowl run.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:30 PM
Both have been helped by their defenses a lot. Flacco has had a much better running game though, and unless you can come back with a good stat showing they both throw downfield the same amount/comp%, I’m not gonna buy this.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Eli is in the 5-10 range IMO. It’s splitting hairs to get any more specific.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
Yeah, remember those “Is Phillip Rivers elite?” discussions?
Brees won a Super Bowl and then got lumped in with those other three, for some reason.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:33 PM
I think Brady cares way more than when he was younger, and I didn’t think that was in doubt. He really wants another SB win. And just hasn’t had the mobility he had when he was younger, which really helped avoid hits, and steal a few first downs. Also don’t like the tendency to have an offense that can go three/out too easily on downfield passes.
Assuming the reg season has been practice/experiment though as to play-calling, I think they will figure it out in the playoffs.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:34 PM
I like this a lot. Both sucked in the first Superbowls, and had a much bigger role and played far better in the second one. The 2007 Eli SB MVP still pisses me off.
/Justin Tuck
January 7th, 2013 at 2:36 PM
I live in Boston and can tell you that there is a vocal segment of Pats fans who think he’s not “one of them” but you only hear that when they lose in the playoffs.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:38 PM
Fixed
January 7th, 2013 at 2:43 PM
“Ellsbury and Lackey for Gianocarlo Stanton!”
January 7th, 2013 at 2:47 PM
For those unfamilier, Kalish and Lavarnway are two of the most overrated prospects the Sox have had in recent years. 4th OF, backup C/DH potential for the two.
January 7th, 2013 at 2:53 PM
He’s had a somewhat better running game for a few years. That seems to disappear in the postseason, partly because Rice fumbles a lot and partly because they happen to run into the Steelers all the damn time.
I’m not sure where to find the deep ball stat. Flacco leads the NFL in deep attempts but I’m not sure what his completion percentage is.
January 8th, 2013 at 1:32 AM
Baldwin has been making nice, fast little plays for us all season. He had three TD’s Vs the NINERS @ the Clink, including one much more difficult then this one. However he does show his amazing body control! Like all of our WR’s Baldwin is EXPLOSIVE, AND CLUTCH, just not rockets! GO SEAHAWKS