NFL Coaching Carousels: Fired Coaches Like Andy Reid in Demand, and Buffalo Going All Analytical
Seven teams are looking seven coaches, as of right now. That number could get increased, as there are multiple teams without a GM who currently have the incumbent coach still on board (Carolina, NY Jets, Jacksonville, Tennessee). Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as one team’s trashed coach could prove to be another’s treasure, particularly in the cases of Andy Reid and Lovie Smith. Where will teams look? It is a coaching carousel, and it goes around and around in a circle. No, seriously, it says so in the title to this post–so picture Andy Reid riding on the elephant while Mike Holmgren pleads for the operator to stop it so he can get on. Here’s our completely serious assessment of the situation.
Kansas City: The Andy Reid tour begins here. Clark Hunt did not fire Scott Pioli, but said he would conduct the search himself, and the new coach would be involved in the decision on Pioli. Buyout money may be involved, and the guess here is that Pioli is kept around in some capacity (in charge of picking up wrappers at the stadium?) to earn his keep. Meanwhile, the chances are pretty good that Hunt goes after a big name, from Reid, to retired coaches like Bill Cowher, to at least placing a call to Nick Saban while he prepares for the national championship game. Mike Holmgren would also like Hunt to know he is still alive.
Philadelphia: From Reid’s suitor today to his past employer. The Eagles are rumored to be hot after Chip Kelly, in competition with Cleveland. Kelly will have his choice of running his offense with Nick Foles or Brandon Weeden, a truly enviable position. Doug Marrone is another college coach who will be in the mix, and the Eagles are rumored to be interviewing Atlanta offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter and Atlanta defensive coordinator Mike Nolan and Atlanta special teams coach Keith Armstrong. Sadly, there have been no rumors surrounding Atlanta assistant strength and conditioning coach Jonas Beauchemin, so we’ll start banging that drum, since Koetter is staying in Atlanta. They should invite them all so the entire Falcons staff can use up those drink coupons.
Arizona: After he stops in Kansas City, Andy Reid is heading to Arizona where some have said he is almost certain to be the next coach. Can he manage changing his clocks, especially when it comes to living in Arizona once daylight savings time hits elsewhere? He promises to fix Kevin Kolb. This means making him look good in a preseason game so the Cardinals can then trade him for draft picks. Ray Horton, here’s who, also did excellent work with the defense in Arizona, and is also a candidate. Presumably he wants to break every quarterback currently on the roster permanently.
Cleveland: New owner Jimmy Haslam and new president Joe Banner also have a GM position to fill, which could impact the coaching search. Earlier rumors of Michael Lombardi linked Josh McDaniels to the job, which would be awesome. The number of names linked to Cleveland is larger than the number of people who actually want to live in Cleveland at this point, from Saban to Chip Kelly to lots of coordinators from Ray Horton to Kyle Shanahan.
Buffalo: The big news out of Buffalo is that they are forming a Moneyball-style analytics department. Buffalo has gone with the retread model in recent years, with Chan Gailey and Dick Jauron. They might find with coaching hires that the perceived riskiest picks, assistant coaches with no coordinator experience, and college coaches, have been most successful (think a younger Andy Reid or John Harbaugh). I fully expect Buffalo’s analytics to settle on recently fired Chicago coach Lovie Smith to improve their offense.
San Diego: Why would you want to come to San Diego when you never get a fair shake and get canned after missing the playoffs three straight years when you are considered a playoff contender every year? Former Packers GM Ron Wolf is heading the search for a new GM and coach. Norv Turner thinks he got everything out of the talent on the roster, though, so there is no place to go but down.
Chicago: Phil Emery ousted Lovie Smith to get his guy in place, and offered a lengthy press conference setting forth his vision. He’s in charge now, and the new coach will likely be a NFL assistant brought in to work with the offense. Mike McCoy, who made lemonade out of Tim Tebow, and lemon drop martinis out of Peyton Manning, is rumored to be the target.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 2:00 PM
Every team in the NFL drafting in the top ten has already fired either a HC, GM or a coordinator. Every team except one. The mother fucking Lions. 10-6 to 4-12? No big deal!
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:01 PM
what?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:02 PM
Do their offices even have computers? They got a bunch of geriatrics running things, and they arent so good with those infernal machines.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:04 PM
Is there another Harbaugh brother available? And I can’t wait to see which fool takes the Jets GM position. Should be comical to say the least.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:07 PM
It’s like Millen never left!
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:08 PM
Has anyone’s agent been better than Andy Reid’s, in terms of pimping out his client for every job out there for the past 6 weeks?
Arizona is probably as good of a landing spot as any for Big Red. As long as it’s not at Broad and Pattison.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:10 PM
It blows my mind that Reid doesn’t want a year to recharge.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Neither the Lions or Raiders are looking for a head coach, has to be the first time that’s happened since Tom Flores left LA
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Oh wait, how’d I miss this?
Enjoy Andy Reid, Charger fans!
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 PM
If he quits for a year, he’ll die.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:11 PM
What a great line. Nicely done.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
In light of all the personal drama and the rough professional year and losing your job after 14 years….it would make a ton of sense to take a year off.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:12 PM
And yet no one is interested in Eric Mangini. Not sure why he doesn’t get another go round after having been saddled with two atrocious personnel groupings in his first two stops. Made chicken salad out of Cleveland that final year.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Included in the overhaul is an upgrade to abacuses from counting on fingers and toes!
/ A.P. weeps
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Agreed on Mangini, think the next team that hires him will be pretty pleased with it…young coaches tend to learn and grow from early failures
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Andy Reid to the Chargers, Chip Kelly to the Chiefs, Russ Grimm to the Browns, Joe Gibbs to the Cardinals, Kyle Shanahan to the Bills, and Rob Ryan to the Bears
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
There is little known Cooper Harbaugh, but repeated depantsing and swirlies from old brothers John and Jim permanently injured his self-esteem.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Bernie Lom…errrr…Ralph Wilson stepped down from football operations this week.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I blame his absentee son.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
The Bears wouldn’t have to pay any moving expenses to just promote Mike Tice…make it so, Emery
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
No landing spot for Jim Fassell?!
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:15 PM
Maybe Mangini broke some weird code of omerta with the Spy Gate thing?
I agree with your point, though. How does Mangini not get another shot?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:16 PM
Moneyball line is hilarious, why would they need an entire department?
1. Rookies are super cheap now
2. We should get lots of rookies
3. I need a bigger department budget
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:16 PM
All kidding aside, I bet Marinelli keeps his job. That defense still has a lot of players under contract and would be wise to run the Tampa-2 for another year as they transition into a new defensive scheme.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM
When his son got arrested for drug offenses, there were lot of stories about how Andy was invested too much on his job and didn’t pay attention to home life. He seems like one of those guys who lives and breaths football. Probably will die while coaching.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:17 PM
The Bills will out-Bills themselves and bring on Marty Schottenheimer
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM
/Paterno’d
Mike Zimmer is not getting nearly enough attention, as he would be my top target for the Eagles.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Enough with the bears jokes butters. The pack owns them
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:19 PM
Literally, it would be an improvement. It smells like Arizona is the front runner for his services, though.
Smallie, what say you?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:21 PM
I’m wondering how the Bears hiring a coach this winter will impact Jay Cutler’s contract. They’d be wise to lock him up now, but I wonder if that would scare any potential candidates away?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:22 PM
No landing spot for Jim Fassell?!
Jets, but we have to wait on a GM
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Is there a reason why Billick doesn’t seem to get any consideration? I never hear that dude’s name brought up, and he says he’d listen so it’s not like he has rebuffed any offers.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Norv and Jay all the way.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 PM
Doubt it since if the Bears really want to keep him, they will…when’s the last time a starting QB left simply because another team made a bigger offer? They’d franchise tag him if need be
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 PM
For some reason nobody has noticed the talent exodus out of SD the past 3-4 years, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. Havent been able to replace LDT, VJax. Gates is a shadow of his former self. O-line isnt what it was a few years ago either.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:24 PM
This is pure speculation but it seems likely that Billick is such a prick that nobody wants to talk to him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:25 PM
Do you think the new GM wil be given the ability to fire their fat and incompetent HC? And what about Sanchez? If a new GM is stuck with those two, it would probably be wiser to decline and find another gig.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Dallas should bring Norv back as OC
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Oh, we’ve noticed all right. Dang it.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:26 PM
Do you think the new GM wil be given the ability to fire their fat and incompetent HC
My suggestions are almost all terrible and mostly tongue-in-cheek. I don’t really think Joe Gibbs is coming back to the sidelines any time soon.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:27 PM
I was going to add that, but I wonder if it matters. I think the word arrogant was invented for him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 PM
The Billick disappearing from coaching story has always intrigued me. Kornheiser always referring to him as “The Preening Schmo” amused me.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:28 PM
I think it matters for Billick insofar as he doesn’t play the politics well enough to get away with being such a jerk. I’m still just guessing but it’s believable.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:29 PM
Mangini is not great at putting together a staff, and the new practice rules will neuter him. They dubbed a lot of those practice limiations “the Mangini Rules” in the negotiations. I think he’s decent enough but people aren’t evaluating his potential on all the proper factors.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
They should let the new Jets GM fire Rex if he wants, just leads to awkwardness when a new GM has to work with a coach he didn’t hire…on some level I think Emery was a little relieved that the Packers lost last week so he could fire Lovie and use lack of postseason as the excuse
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
Greg Roman will be the head coach of the 2013 Browns.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
TK also had a funny “Who exactly was in the room when Billick was voted an offensive genius?” take. Funny because it was true.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
With AJ Smith gone I would think every coach should be begging to get an interview with San Diego. Even if the roster is a mess, look at the leash they gave Norv, and you get to live in San Diego while making a ton of money.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:30 PM
exactly. and, I don’t see Andy Reid as a better offensive mind than Norv Turner. Him going to San Diego is not an improvement.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:31 PM
A common mistake when looking at assistants making the jump. It happens all of the time in college, but I assume it does so in the pros, to. Lots of shit to deal with when you wear the crown that have nothing to do with actual football.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:32 PM
Perhaps he turned down overtures by college teams, but I would have jumped all over him if I was an AD or GM. Him and Vic Fangio (best name nominee).
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 PM
I don’t see Andy Reid as a better offensive mind than Norv Turner
FWIW, almost nobody is better than Norv. If he’d just stayed a high-priced OC for all of these years nobody would make jokes about him
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Disagree completely. Reid’s rep as a strong leader (more so than Turner) is as much a help as anything.
The team isn’t a Super Bowl contender. I think the fan base would settle for a hard-nosed team that plays smart, at least during the rebuilding.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:35 PM
Bottom line to me is getting someone players believe in and can respect (Harbaughs, Belichik). If a coach is a blowhard asshole (Rex Ryan, Schwartz), I don’t think that brings the best out of them and they have to overcome a crappy environment created by the coach.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:36 PM
Wayne Fontes is only 72, with advances in modern medicine he could easily roam the sidelines for some perpetual 9-7 team for a good 8-10 years
To hear people talk about Reid these days you’d think he was Rich Kotite…whoever hires him is getting a damn good coach
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:38 PM
This made me laugh. “We can rebuild him. We have the technology.”
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:38 PM
This is pure speculation but it seems likely that Billick is such a prick that nobody wants to talk to him.
They should add him to MNF with Jon Gruden. I think the space-time continuum would rupture.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Exactly. A hell of a lot of teams would gladly take the success Philly has had under him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:39 PM
They should let the new Jets GM fire Rex if he wants, just leads to awkwardness when a new GM has to work with a coach he didn’t hire…
Problem is that Woody likes Rex, and may tell the new GM to work with Rex for a year. If they don’t get into the playoffs, or deep enough into the playoffs, he can fire Rex. If they’re successful with the new GM, Woddy will be vindicated in firing Tannenbaum. Woody, like most people in his position hates admitting to a single mistake, let alone 2.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:40 PM
I think the defense has a couple years left too, but how do you start the transition while still playing the old scheme. Seems like that would result in a mismatch of players, players in wrong system, etc.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
And to make it perfect, get rid of Tirico and replace him with Theismann. There would be fisticuffs every week.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
To hear people talk about Reid these days you’d think he was Rich Kotite…whoever hires him is getting a damn good coach
Sometimes you lose it. Dennis Green was a good coach for a long time. So was George Seifert
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:41 PM
Reid is good in the locker room but awful on the field. Be careful what you wish for. And Jim Johnson who was truly what made those Eagles teams click between 2000 and 2007 isn’t coming back to life.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:42 PM
Jim Johnson who was truly what made those Eagles teams click between 2000 and 2007 isn’t coming back to life
Link?
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:43 PM
I’m team Andy Reid as well. Don’t forget how quickly McNabb went from potential HOFer to street free agent once he left Reid.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:43 PM
I’d support getting Cutler locked up, just not for elite-player money.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:43 PM
Someone give ted nolan another chance!
/single tear on a proud face
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:44 PM
C’mon now. Johnson was a great coach. But “made the team click”? Silly.
Lovie, Bill O’Brien, Doug Marrone. In that order, please.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Andy Reid gets kudos for helping McNabb turn into a solid QB but McNabb it seems made a Reid a lot of $$$. Him and that dead Def. Coordinator.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:45 PM
Good luck with that. When Matt Stafford signs the richest fucking contract ever I will be quite upset.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:45 PM
The Eagles offense was competent for years with James Thrash, Chad Lewis, and Todd Pinkston.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:45 PM
69 and 99 on the bears are the keys to the defense’s future
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Except for the bizarro 2005 season, the Eagles defense was top 15 in total point defense every year between 2000 and 2007 and was 2nd best for three of the years (2001, 2002 and 2004).
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/
Jim Johnson and the defense was able to cover up a lot of the bad offensive decisions that Reid made.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:46 PM
They simply had better football players in those days, wasn’t Tom Brady overheard during that Super Bowl talking about how they just kept running the same handful of blitzes all game? I don’t think they were hard to scheme against, just hard to block
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:46 PM
I’m team Andy Reid as well. Don’t forget how quickly McNabb went from potential HOFer to street free agent once he left Reid.
I think that has less to do with Reid being a great coach and more to do with him recognizing that McNabb’s best years were behind him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:47 PM
That link says nothing about whether or not Jim Johnson will come back to life. Answer the question, phillymantis!
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Did anybody else have Madden the year Jim Johnson dies? It always gave me a perverse thrill when he got hired as a head coach in franchise mode
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:49 PM
If I can find the book where Lisa and Bart raised the dead from, then yes, he will come back to life.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:49 PM
In the good early years I think this was true. It became less true pretty quickly, though. Particularly with the emergence of Brian Westbrook, then TO, then all the wide open stuff after that.
Eagles were 10th in the league in offensive yards and fourth in points even without Westbrook in 2002, with Pinkston and Thrash still.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:50 PM
re: Reid to AZ, I can get on board if they can finagle a way to keep Horton to run the defense. Arizona is stock full of 3-4 talent, and Reid favors a 4-3. Without Horto, the rebuilding process is 2-3 years in order to rebuild defensive personnel to run a 4-3, as well as building an O Line that can pass or run block.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Problem is the Bears have already invested so much in Cutler to acquire him that they really can’t let him go.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:51 PM
If I remember correctly he said they would blitz all game. I don’t remember the word “same”, but maybe he said that.
Love Johnson, and the team definitely had some very good defenders for a bit… but I think it gets oversold.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 PM
Partly, but he also managed to turn AJ Feeley and Kevin Kolb into draft picks.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 PM
As a non bears fan who follows chicago sports closely mainly through radio i want gruden…for the circus and the quotes and the clash or mesh between he and cutler. And maybe some winning
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:52 PM
The 2004 season was the epitome of perfection on both sides of the ball. However, there were many games where McNabb was doing his throw the ball into the ground routine or Westbrook wasn’t getting the ball enough that the defense needed to do more.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:53 PM
2nd round picks at that. Ridiculous.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 PM
/calls timeout early in the half
//stares blankly ahead as team ‘runs’ a needed two minute drill at the end of the game with no urgency
///repeats for infinity ‘gotta do a better job’
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 PM
The fact that he traded him within the Eagles own division makes him a genius. Washington should have said, “Waaaaait just a minute…”
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:57 PM
Hey Philly Mantis – (makes belt motion)
/Champ is here
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:58 PM
See Belichick/Drew Bledsoe.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Gruden said during a broadcast (stanford vs wisc?) he wants a GM/Coach deal with full control.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:00 PM
I would be happy as a Packers fan if the Bears hire McCoy. I’m not convinced a coach has to do much with Peyton running the show out there… seems like fool’s gold to me.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:02 PM
Somehow, despite there being no evidence he’s capable or good with this much responsibility, so many eager to hand him the reigns.
Celebrity.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:03 PM
His record following winning the Super Bowl with Dungy’s team is below .500, celebrity is right
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Bottom line is Philly had their best chance when they blew it at home in the NFL title game vs. Tampa. AND YOU BLEEEEEWWWW IT.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:05 PM
Yeah I know…I wasn’t around much last week to congratulate you. Brady deciding to shit the bed against the Jags killed me. Also Peyton. Always next year.
/kicks rock
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:06 PM
stares blankly ahead as team ‘runs’ a needed two minute drill at the end of the game with no urgency
Reminded me of Wiscy’s offense yesterday with 4 minutes to go and down 6.
/Jet Sweep–huddle
//4 yard in–huddle
/// INT
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:06 PM
Run a Madden GM competition across the country. Final 32 selected play for 100 seasons, most super bowls with the highest winning percentage gets the job.
/Why not?
//Dungy was hired because he hates gay people
///Not even relevant to football at all
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:07 PM
The notion that “ZOMG ANDY REID IS TOTES GONNA WIN A SUPER BWOLZ NOW!” is equally silly.
Andy Reid is a good football coach. Andy Reid also has a lot of blind spots as a football coach.
He’s this generation’s Marty Schottenheimer. Any of you running around begging for Marty Schottenheimer?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:08 PM
/replays Ronde Barber interception return
//starts drinking at desk
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:08 PM
The worst thing Andy Reid ever did was go our for those four dozen wings and pitchers of MGD with Donovan the night before the Superbowl. McNabb had nothing left in the 4th quarter.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 PM
That, and the title game against the roided up Panthers
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 PM
Any of you running around begging for Marty Schottenheimer?
No but they should be. At least he would put a good product on the field for 16 games.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 PM
Yep. Good coach, but has clear flaws.
You would hope with a clean slate, so many years to reflect on, and a strong GM to help direct him you’d be able to have staff on hand that would mitigate those flaws as much as possible.
If I were a fan of another team with a vacancy, given the rest of the field, I would want Andy near the top of the list.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:10 PM
if Gruden hasn’t taken a job by now, he probably probably never will. same with Cowher. if you hear those names being thrown around it’s either bullshit media speculation or agents or executives trying to use them as some negotiating tactic.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:11 PM
This game broke my heart far worse than the Tampa game.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:12 PM
Marvin Lewis is so lucky he landed in Cincinnati. He’d have been fired like 12 times already if he worked for a self-respecting organization.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Given the fact that Ron Wolf is running the Chargers GM/Coach search and given their Packer connection, I wouldn’t be stunned at all to see him in SD.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 PM
So Ron Wolf will be their next GM?
/ cheney’d
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 PM
The Tampa game was the last game at the Vet.
I thought that team was a better team than the one that lost to Carolina.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:14 PM
A small bit of consolation after the unpleasantness of 4th and 26
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Sounds like Gruden was actively lobbying though. I remember now he was saying that the Stanford coach should get “one of those GM/Coach jobs that I want.”
/Something like that
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:15 PM
Good in the locker room, awful on the field. He needs to concede that he shouldn’t call an offense. Get strong coordinators, and his team will do well.
And the Tampa & Carolina game are both heartbreaking. The Tampa game more so because of how confident I was that year.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Oh, I think you’re right about that. While I was living it, though, I was stupidly confident about the Panthers game.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:17 PM
I think his being fired has given alot of people amnesia. They’ve forgotten the clock management, the 3 yard passes on 3rd and 10, neglecting the running game, having Vick throw 50 times a game with a doo doo offensive line. To me, he is the mirror image of Lovie Smith, except for the fact that Lovie Smith is better at coaching and calling defense than Reid is doing the same on offense.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:17 PM
Butters, I think I forgot about that Brady quote before the Super Bowl because the BB quote on Freddy Mitchell is taking up all my available brain space there. So good.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:18 PM
Is there a chance Ryan keeps his job without making the playoffs? After Lovie bit it this year, I’m not sure 10-6 would be good enough if they are home in January.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:19 PM
That was the best
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:20 PM
I guess I should have added the caveat that if they would probably leave only if they got an improbably great offer — full personnel control for a decent organization. it’s not like they’re going to walk away from their current jobs to go coach the Bills or be Jerry Jones’ yes-man.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 PM
Agreed that his thinking Mike Vick was a top tier QB was the first sign that it was time to part ways…so many turnovers
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:21 PM
That is loser talk. Fuck that. That’s like saying the Jets should let Sanchez start because he has guaranteed dollars. Cutler’s cost doesn’t go down just because you let him keep playing. If they don’t believe in Cutler, they need to ditch him the second they have access to a better option.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:23 PM
So I picked the Cards to cover vs. SF, but didn’t see any of the game. Did Hoyer look ok? He had to be better than what KC/AZ have been trotting out all season, right?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:29 PM
Not saying he’s Lombardi, but 3 times in the playoffs in the last 4 years sharing a division with the Steelers/Ravens isnt anything to sneeze at. Does anybody remember just how bad the Bengals were before Lewis took over?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:32 PM
Just read Yahoo’s knob-gobbling ode to Ray Lewis, which manages to skip past the whole accessory to murder thing.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:33 PM
A small bit of consolation after the unpleasantness of 4th and 26
How embarrassing, you had a Super Bowl
right there and blew it.Browns 4 life
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:35 PM
I was living in Charlotte at the time. I goddamn loved Jake Delhomme that season.
/ Not Coopish
// Goddamnit Kasay, why’d you have to kick it out of bounds in the Super Bowl
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:35 PM
I’m reluctantly with this. I really never thought he was a good coach, from a game management/strategy/timeout/challenges point-of-view, but at some point, results matter. I actually think that from a coach perspective, Lewis has the most to gain this playoffs. If he gets two wins, all the sudden he’s going to be remembered on a lot more “best coaches” lists…
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:36 PM
because it’s a lot less of a stretch to put an LOL in Carolina, than most places it’s forced in on the internet
/CarLOLina
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:39 PM
the 2nd half of that Pats-Carolina SB was awesome. It was like 3-0 at half and then they went apeshit inthe 2nd half.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:40 PM
How many coaches are good at the game management/strategy/timeout/challenges thing? I think Lewis does need to win a playoff game eventually, but taking Andy Dalton to the playoffs his first two years and dealing with the deterioration of Carson Palmer should buy him a little rope. I think he’s also dealing with one of the worst owners in football and has had a lot of bad eggs on his team over the years (not sure how much of that is his fault).
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:40 PM
damn, if one of the handful of greatest linebackers in the history of the game doesn’t deserve slob knobbing at the ending of his career, who does? People should be mad at ATL for trying to shoehorn a murder conviction on the biggest fish involved in the fight instead of the guys who actually did the stabbing. If I remember correctly, didn’t they actually use those guys against Lewis as witnesses?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Vick’s brilliant 2010 season just held off the inevitiablity of Reid’s deterioration as a coach.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:44 PM
The second half made up for the horrendous showing by Carolina in the first quarter, in which I think they had -9 yards.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:44 PM
Not even a little bit dude. Buffalo, Oakland, Cleveland, KC, Jax, Rams, Detroit, Miami, would all love to be bitching about those things instead of what they have done in that same time period. You may want to let this go, because it’s really not even an argument.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:45 PM
The hillbillies down around Cincituky hate Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis almost equally, which is incredibly racist because Mike Brown is way worse than Marvin Lewis.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:46 PM
Sorry, Ben, I can’t get past the fact that Ray Murda helped cover up a murder. He’s on the level of a Ferret Face Kelly for me.
Also, I am lobbying you to change your handle to Benjamin Bender Rodriguez.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:47 PM
All of this. I strongly cautioned him about taking this job because it would be hard to get the stink off of him once it was a miserable failure. Kudos to him for the success they have had.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:48 PM
I have extremely fond memories of Forrest Gregg and the 1981 Bengals, when they introduced those spiffy helmets and played the Niners straight up in the Super Bowl.
/ Bring back Forrest Gregg!
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:49 PM
if it was an either/or deal, I’d of rather taken McNabb for his career than Reid with his.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:50 PM
dumb Bengals let the 49ers do that goal-line stand with 12 guys on the field. Good job refs.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:50 PM
Man, I so loved those helmets back then.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:50 PM
That was right after Janet Jackson whipped out her titty during halftime.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:50 PM
That was right after Janet Jackson whipped out her titty during halftime.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Would it matter to you if you knew the specifics of the case? Seemed to me like two scumbags killing another scumbag unless I am misremembering. Maybe it was warranted?
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:53 PM
No murder if the defendants were aquitted. Only Ray went down for what happended in that limo.
January 2nd, 2013 at 3:58 PM
Decent recap of the Ray Lewis thing.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/news/2000/06/04/lewis_agreement/
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:00 PM
The two guys who got stabbed to death might disagree.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:00 PM
at this point, I’ve stopped caring who the Bills will get as a coach
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:04 PM
it’s not an argument if by some miracle you are able to make the past 2 years disappear. unfortunately, in real life, you can’t make those years disappear, and in those years you will find a coach who’s performance fits in well with what those other teams have been doing. add to that the fact that he will have oversight on personnel decisions where ever he goes. I’m just saying…….
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:05 PM
Dad, we did something we shouldn’t have.
Did you wreck the car?
No.
Did you raise the did?
Yes.
But the car’s okay?
Uh huh.
All right then.
/ It never gets old
// The frogurt is also cursed
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
They fell on the knives…multiple times.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Sure they were killed and the coroner ruled it a homocide, but not a murder.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
So a bad decision (hitching his wagon to Vick) means he is not a good coach anymore? So have none of the other “great” coaches ever made a bad decision? Shanahan took McNabb from Reid for Pete’s sake. Not that Shanny’s great, but I’d take him in a minute over most other coaches, and that was a dumb call. I’m not saying Philly was wrong in making a change, it was probably time. But Reid is not a shitty coach. See the list of coaches for the teams I mentioned previously for the definition of a shitty coach if you need a refresher.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
seems like there were a few Super Bowls like that…the Rams/Titans game was dull at halftime, turned into a classic in the second half. the Steelers/Cards game didn’t get really good til the fourth quarter.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Signing Vick to that contract may or may not have been a bad decision. The way Vick was utilized was bad coaching. The way McCoy was utilized is bad coaching. The whole mess with the defensive coordinator position this year was bad coaching and bad management. Reid coached like a guy who has been running on fumes for the past 2 seasons. The game has passed him by.
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:33 PM
/puts on running shoes
//note to self: “next pair of running shoes, velcro instead of laces”
January 2nd, 2013 at 4:44 PM
I guess we’ll see. Would you disagree that he takes another team to the playoffs? I say he will.