<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Mick Cronin, Cincinnati Basketball Coach: &#8220;the players need to get paid&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:03:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850430</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:45:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850430</guid> <description><![CDATA[From ESPN:The 19 public school athletic departments that showed a profit in 2010-11 even without including revenue from the university, state or student fees.Ath. Dept.	Surplus Kansas State	$20,106,935 Texas	$16,609,111 LSU	$15,462,427 Alabama	$14,195,164 Florida	$11,989,355 Michigan	$10,621,815 Arkansas	$10,524,624 Oklahoma	$9,974,916 Ohio State	$9,528,952 Okla. State	$9,507,375 Texas A&amp;M	$8,975,871 Georgia	$8,384,182 Oregon	$7,125,702 Purdue	$6,773,110 Iowa	$4,731,395 Miss. State	$2,573,373 Nebraska	$1,763,272 Kentucky	$1,219,181 Illinois	$403,425Profit sharing with coaching benefit and salary caps, Title 9 needs to differentiate profitable sports with employees and participants. Cap school coach salaries/benefits at $2 million per department. Wages for coaches grossly inflated due to unpaid labour force.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From ESPN:</p><p>The 19 public school athletic departments that showed a profit in 2010-11 even without including revenue from the university, state or student fees.</p><p>Ath. Dept.	Surplus<br /> Kansas State	$20,106,935<br /> Texas	$16,609,111<br /> LSU	$15,462,427<br /> Alabama	$14,195,164<br /> Florida	$11,989,355<br /> Michigan	$10,621,815<br /> Arkansas	$10,524,624<br /> Oklahoma	$9,974,916<br /> Ohio State	$9,528,952<br /> Okla. State	$9,507,375<br /> Texas A&amp;M	$8,975,871<br /> Georgia	$8,384,182<br /> Oregon	$7,125,702<br /> Purdue	$6,773,110<br /> Iowa	$4,731,395<br /> Miss. State	$2,573,373<br /> Nebraska	$1,763,272<br /> Kentucky	$1,219,181<br /> Illinois	$403,425</p><p>Profit sharing with coaching benefit and salary caps, Title 9 needs to differentiate profitable sports with employees and participants. Cap school coach salaries/benefits at $2 million per department. Wages for coaches grossly inflated due to unpaid labour force.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850413</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850413</guid> <description><![CDATA[Title 9 needs reforming, but I&#039;m not against it at all. Thinking you can still afford everything with just capped salaries.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Title 9 needs reforming, but I&#8217;m not against it at all. Thinking you can still afford everything with just capped salaries.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850407</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:28:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850407</guid> <description><![CDATA[Coaches&#039; salaries, benefits from the university equal over $190 million from the top 10 schools alone.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coaches&#8217; salaries, benefits from the university equal over $190 million from the top 10 schools alone.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850387</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:16:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850387</guid> <description><![CDATA[Also going to need profit sharing from the conference schools.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also going to need profit sharing from the conference schools.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sctrojans</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850384</link> <dc:creator>sctrojans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850384</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, somewhat painful for me to admit in regards to Title 9 but you should not subsidize activities for others by denying wages.&lt;/blockquote&gt; Agreed. Just another example of a misguided government attempt at &quot;social equality&quot; ruining efficiency and meritocracy]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, somewhat painful for me to admit in regards to Title 9 but you should not subsidize activities for others by denying wages.</p></blockquote><p> Agreed. Just another example of a misguided government attempt at &#8220;social equality&#8221; ruining efficiency and meritocracy</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850377</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850377</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;However, that same premise can be applied to conclude non-revenue sport athletes shouldn’t be paid. The lesson, as always, is that Title 9 sucks&lt;/blockquote&gt;Yeah, somewhat painful for me to admit in regards to Title 9 but you should not subsidize activities for others by denying wages.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>However, that same premise can be applied to conclude non-revenue sport athletes shouldn’t be paid. The lesson, as always, is that Title 9 sucks</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, somewhat painful for me to admit in regards to Title 9 but you should not subsidize activities for others by denying wages.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sctrojans</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850375</link> <dc:creator>sctrojans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:04:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850375</guid> <description><![CDATA[Soused, I&#039;d like to see the revenue sport athlete&#039;s paid, on the premise of exploitation. However, that same premise can be applied to conclude non-revenue sport athletes shouldn&#039;t be paid. The lesson, as always, is that Title 9 sucks]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soused, I&#8217;d like to see the revenue sport athlete&#8217;s paid, on the premise of exploitation. However, that same premise can be applied to conclude non-revenue sport athletes shouldn&#8217;t be paid. The lesson, as always, is that Title 9 sucks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850371</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850371</guid> <description><![CDATA[For the 119 teams in season wages it would amount to about $39 million. Georgia could pay for that themselves from profit.From NCAA.org:For 2011-12, NCAA revenue is projected at $777 million, with $680 million coming from the Association’s new rights agreement with CBS Sports and Turner Broadcasting.NCAA alone will take 4% of revenue allocated for &quot;central services, such as building operations and salaries not related to particular programs&quot; at a total of $33.8 million.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the 119 teams in season wages it would amount to about $39 million. Georgia could pay for that themselves from profit.</p><p>From NCAA.org:</p><p>For 2011-12, NCAA revenue is projected at $777 million, with $680 million coming from the Association’s new rights agreement with CBS Sports and Turner Broadcasting.</p><p>NCAA alone will take 4% of revenue allocated for &#8220;central services, such as building operations and salaries not related to particular programs&#8221; at a total of $33.8 million.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850325</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:42:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850325</guid> <description><![CDATA[Not sure what the cap would be on coaching wage, percentage of revenue would make sense.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure what the cap would be on coaching wage, percentage of revenue would make sense.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850307</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:36:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850307</guid> <description><![CDATA[If you want a free market wage as a football coach go to the NFL and stay there you duplicitous sluts.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want a free market wage as a football coach go to the NFL and stay there you duplicitous sluts.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850292</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:33:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850292</guid> <description><![CDATA[Georgia Bulldogs year would cost roughly $326,250 for their in season wages (Georgia minimum wage, max 20 hour week as per rule, 105 man roster). Mark Richt makes $2.8 million a year. Georgia&#039;s football revenue for 2009 was $71 million.WSU season is roughly $322,800 for in season wages with Mike Leech on salary for $2 million with a 105 man roster. Washington State&#039;s football revenue was $12 million in 2009.Although minimum wage is much higher in Washington their season was a great deal shorter.Off-season wages are capped at 8 hours weekly and there are many other factors to consider. Only 56 players are allowed on road trips so there is significant savings in this respect. This is a very rough outline but in general costs could be entirely paid for by simply reducing rosters to 75 per squad and capping coach pay./Pay the players]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgia Bulldogs year would cost roughly $326,250 for their in season wages (Georgia minimum wage, max 20 hour week as per rule, 105 man roster). Mark Richt makes $2.8 million a year. Georgia&#8217;s football revenue for 2009 was $71 million.</p><p>WSU season is roughly $322,800 for in season wages with Mike Leech on salary for $2 million with a 105 man roster. Washington State&#8217;s football revenue was $12 million in 2009.</p><p>Although minimum wage is much higher in Washington their season was a great deal shorter.</p><p>Off-season wages are capped at 8 hours weekly and there are many other factors to consider. Only 56 players are allowed on road trips so there is significant savings in this respect. This is a very rough outline but in general costs could be entirely paid for by simply reducing rosters to 75 per squad and capping coach pay.</p><p>/Pay the players</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Some Random Old Dude</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850165</link> <dc:creator>Some Random Old Dude</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850165</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;hopefully, this site will still be around to champion the decision!&lt;/blockquote&gt;You know something we don&#039;t?&lt;blockquote&gt;To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>hopefully, this site will still be around to champion the decision!</p></blockquote><p>You know something we don&#8217;t?</p><blockquote><p>To you from failing hands we throw<br /> The torch; be yours to hold it high.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason McIntyre</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850140</link> <dc:creator>Jason McIntyre</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:42:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850140</guid> <description><![CDATA[PAY THE ATHLETESjust like we called for a playoff for years on this site, the same thing will happen with paying players.hopefully, this site will still be around to champion the decision!]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAY THE ATHLETES</p><p>just like we called for a playoff for years on this site, the same thing will happen with paying players.</p><p>hopefully, this site will still be around to champion the decision!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ButtersBC</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850104</link> <dc:creator>ButtersBC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:18:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850104</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market&lt;/blockquote&gt;So we should pay US workers what the Cambodian kids who make my Nikes earn? I&#039;m confused]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market</p></blockquote><p>So we should pay US workers what the Cambodian kids who make my Nikes earn? I&#8217;m confused</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sctrojans</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850097</link> <dc:creator>sctrojans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:13:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850097</guid> <description><![CDATA[This&#039;ll be my last comment on this post, I promise. I&#039;ll repeat myself...&lt;blockquote&gt;It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This&#8217;ll be my last comment on this post, I promise. I&#8217;ll repeat myself&#8230;<br /><blockquote>It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850095</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:12:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850095</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m gonna cut myself off because an economic debate could and probably would go for hours. Also, I’ll go out on a limb and guess it wouldn’t change any of our opinions in the slightest&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/22union.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Union Membership in U.S. Fell to a 70-Year Low in 2010. &lt;/a&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m gonna cut myself off because an economic debate could and probably would go for hours. Also, I’ll go out on a limb and guess it wouldn’t change any of our opinions in the slightest</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/22/business/22union.html" rel="nofollow">Union Membership in U.S. Fell to a 70-Year Low in 2010. </a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sctrojans</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850089</link> <dc:creator>sctrojans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:08:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850089</guid> <description><![CDATA[I&#039;m gonna cut myself off because an economic debate could and probably would go for hours. Also, I&#039;ll go out on a limb and guess it wouldn&#039;t change any of our opinions in the slightest]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gonna cut myself off because an economic debate could and probably would go for hours. Also, I&#8217;ll go out on a limb and guess it wouldn&#8217;t change any of our opinions in the slightest</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850088</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:07:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850088</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;No, it’s one of those points that’s economic fact. It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;C&#039;mon man. &lt;/a&gt;]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No, it’s one of those points that’s economic fact. It ain’t a competition against our former selves. It’s a global market</p></blockquote><p><a href="http://www.bls.gov/news.release/union2.nr0.htm" rel="nofollow">C&#8217;mon man. </a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sctrojans</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850086</link> <dc:creator>sctrojans</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:05:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850086</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Union membership and wages have been dropping together for about 30 years if I’m not mistaken, this is one of those talking points that sounds better in one’s head than in reality&lt;/blockquote&gt; No, it&#039;s one of those points that&#039;s economic fact. It ain&#039;t a competition against our former selves. It&#039;s a global market]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Union membership and wages have been dropping together for about 30 years if I’m not mistaken, this is one of those talking points that sounds better in one’s head than in reality</p></blockquote><p>No, it&#8217;s one of those points that&#8217;s economic fact. It ain&#8217;t a competition against our former selves. It&#8217;s a global market</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/12/17/mick-cronin-cincinnati-basketball-coach-the-players-need-to-get-paid/comment-page-2/#comment-1850085</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:05:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=231053#comment-1850085</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, you seem to be blind to the laziness and entitlement that have become American epidemics&lt;/blockquote&gt;Baby boomer epidemics.&lt;blockquote&gt;Doesn’t help that America has unionized and regulated it’s way out of the production business. This is the reason real wages have lessened. Pseudo-capitalism!&lt;/blockquote&gt;Consumer debt is the response to stagnant wages. People did not get lazier they became poorer because or rising cost of living, they consume less and the cheapest hence outsourcing and industrialized production scaled to the lowest possible costs.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, you seem to be blind to the laziness and entitlement that have become American epidemics</p></blockquote><p>Baby boomer epidemics.</p><blockquote><p>Doesn’t help that America has unionized and regulated it’s way out of the production business. This is the reason real wages have lessened. Pseudo-capitalism!</p></blockquote><p>Consumer debt is the response to stagnant wages. People did not get lazier they became poorer because or rising cost of living, they consume less and the cheapest hence outsourcing and industrialized production scaled to the lowest possible costs.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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