http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/14/22-kids-1-adult-injured-in-knife-attack-outside-chinese-school/?test=latestnews

They had a string of these things going back a few years, with 20 kids being killed and 50 injured, without a gun.

/full circle

Grew up 20 minutes from there. One of those “last places you would expect” towns. Terrible.

Me too (Fairfield). Like I have maintained, none of these tragedies are any less devastating than any other one, but it’s a whole different world when it hits that close to home.

Unless you’re in the row that’s on the railing of the deck you’re in, then you can use it to your advantage and throw him to his death.

hit him when he’s taking off his coat!

I’m not saying the military could be defeated by citizens, but it is absolutely a deterrent and an impediment to martial law

Mentioning martial law in terms of gun control is akin to Homer Simpson checking the toilet every time for bombs after watching Lethal Weapon 2.

Reductio ad absurdum brah.

Whoa, your capable of using Latin phrases. My bad

you obviously have never heard of the AMISH MAFIA!

NO ONE expects the Amish Mafia!

Team never get in a fight with someone at a game that is sitting above you

Unless you’re willing to deliver a low blow

Unless you’re in the row that’s on the railing of the deck you’re in, then you can use it to your advantage and throw him to his death.

I presume we’re at a Texas Rangers game in this scenario?

Yet you’re accusing someone else of hyperbole
/hypocrisy!

Reductio ad absurdum brah.

/Team never get in a fight with someone at a game that is sitting above you

Unless you’re willing to deliver a low blow

/We all need to live in the mountains!

/Team never get in a fight with someone at a game that is sitting above you

In Western Xia, the Mongols, when coming into power, had the benefit of higher ground that were initially designed to keep their opponents at lower ground. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the elevation. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Mongols would not have been able to practice their conquest as successfully as they did but for the towns in built valleys which were prevalent in the 13th century.

/We all need to live in the mountains!

Yet you’re accusing someone else of hyperbole
/hypocrisy!

you obviously have never heard of the AMISH MAFIA!

I don’t think you understand the point I was making. I think you’re the one that’s making the wrong assumptions insofar as you seem to think that I’m arguing that strict gun control laws will lead to a Holocaust. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the abridgement of just about every single one of those rights enshrined in our Bill of Rights, the 2nd amendment being one of them. In Germany, the Nazis, when coming into power, had the benefit of gun control laws that were initially designed to keep them from having guns. Then, in 1938, they expanded those laws so that no Jews could own guns. Then they did what they did to the Jews. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Nazis would not have been able to practice their extermination of Jews as successfully as they did but for the gun control laws which were prevalent in Eastern Europe at that time.

In Western Xia, the Mongols, when coming into power, had the benefit of higher ground that were initially designed to keep their opponents at lower ground. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the elevation. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Mongols would not have been able to practice their conquest as successfully as they did but for the towns in built valleys which were prevalent in the 13th century.

/We all need to live in the mountains!

Namely, the Greek Civil War. The amount of communists in the SOE also led to their support of Tito’s Partisans over the Royalist supporting Chetniks….which greatly aided Tito’s rise to power and establishment of a communist government in Yugoslavia after the war.

And said he was impressed that I knew what an AR-15 was.

that’s TBL in a nutshell right there. “im legitimately surprised a texan would know what an ar-15 is!”

One prosecutor at Nuremberg, when explaining the extent of German force during the pacification of Greece, proclaimed that in Greece “there are a 1,000 Lidices”.

and, yet, despite that and the OSS/SOE involvement with guerrilla groups one of the greek insurgencies created a whole other host of problems for the allies.

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE

He never denied it. And said he was impressed that I knew what an AR-15 was.

This is what I meant when I said deterrent and impediment. Didn’t say flawless defense. Deterrent and impediment

I think a fair analysis of how well people resist a government, outside or otherwise, can be done amongst the underground opposition groups in World War II. Many historians have argued that most underground movements, even with the help of SOE and OSS parachuting in supplies, made little or not impression on German control of their nation. Of the 60 divisions of the Germany Army in France on D-Day, none were assigned to internal security, despite France having one of the most celebrated underground movements of the war. The Polish Home Army, which rose in Warsaw in late 1944, was supplied by the SOE and OSS and caused considerable damage to Warsaw but the SS was able to crush all opposition in less than 60 days. Czech operatives assisted by British SOE agents assassinated Richard Heydrich in Lidice, Czechoslovakia. The response was the complete extermination of the village of Lidice and all of its inhabitants and the complete destruction of the Czech underground. One prosecutor at Nuremberg, when explaining the extent of German force during the pacification of Greece, proclaimed that in Greece “there are a 1,000 Lidices”. The only underground movement which had any large scale and sustained success was the Yugloslav Partisans led by Tito. And they had the mountainous terrain of the Balkans on their side.

So based on that, I think its clear that you can see why I don’t rate civilian gun ownership as an impediment to those forces which would rob a people of liberty, very highly.