Tyrus Thomas’ Wife, Ben Gordon’s Fiancée & Friends in Handcuffs the Morning After Brawl [Video]
On Tuesday night, four women were arrested outside a Charlotte night club following a party thrown by Chris Paul. Among the arrested were Tyrus Thomas’ wife Jamie Patrice Thomas and Ben Gordon’s fiancée, Sascha Smith. There was a fight that left Thomas and Smith with the bumps and bruises you see in their mugshots. When the police showed up, Thomas and her friends tried to drive away and hit a security guard. The women were dragged from the car by police.
Above is video of the four women being escorted from the police station in handcuffs and put in police cars. One of the women, Morgan Williams, even tries to kick a local television cameraman. The class just doesn’t stop.
[WSOCTV]
Previously: Ben Gordon’s Fiancée, Sascha Smith, Also Arrested Following Charlotte Night Club Brawl
Previously: Tyrus Thomas’ Wife Arrested For Bar Fight After Party Hosted by Chris Paul
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December 14th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Do you guys get a lot of cross traffic from WorldStarHipHop?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Soccer WAG’s > Whatever these girls are
December 14th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Perp walks!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
Are their lips swollen or are they attempting to do duckface in their mugshots?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
why is CP3 partying with scrubs like Thomas and BG?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Are their lips swollen or are they attempting to do duckface in their mugshots?
Racist!!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Now THAT’S how you make Rob Parker proud!! Rep the cause.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
For a mugshot, the one on the right looks pretty.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Meanwhile..
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
For a mugshot, the one on the right looks pretty.
You a big fan of forehead lacerations? How do you feel about stomas?
December 14th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Down with the cause!
December 14th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Soused
December 14th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UxLjN6qV3s&list=UUg0rQfX9f5msdwixCPuJPfw
December 14th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Apparently ms621 needs makeup and a hot dress to see beauty. The girl on the right is very pretty. Laceration or not. The girl on the left needs help though.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
They just look like some good old DSL’s to me.
December 14th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Apparently ms621 needs makeup and a hot dress to see beauty. The girl on the right is very pretty. Laceration or not. The girl on the left needs help though.
Laceration or not, not my type. Her lips look like she stole them from a Ronald McDonald statue.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Mr. Potato Head.
Also, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHY DON’T ALL YOU GUN NUTS JUST SHOOT YOURSELVES
December 14th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Her proportions seem a little off…like a skinny Mrs. Potato Head.
She’s not ugly, but she’s not too pretty.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
they’ve got to be swollen as a result of the brawl.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
The three brunettes have nice bodies. The bottle blonde, not so much.
If y’all don’t want ‘em, that’s alright. I’ll scoop ‘em.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
The after school fist fight between Snotty and Blows Chunks has not been postponed as announced in an NFL press release.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Holy shit, this school shooting keeps getting worse: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/14/shooting-reported-at-connecticut-elementary-school/?hpt=hp_t1
Possibly 20 dead, including 10 children. What the fuck is wrong with people.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Sorry: now back to your regularly scheduled boobs.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
they’ve got to be swollen as a result of the brawl.
Ok, but how do you explain the ones on her face?
December 14th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Now, this is what I’m talking about!
/Rob Parker
December 14th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
27 dead, 18 children, per CBS.
worst school tragedy in American history, according to CNN.
this is really, really sad, heartbreaking stuff
December 14th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
27 dead, 18 children, per CBS.
New York Times just reported similar numbers. I kind of just want to go home and chug a bottle of bleach after seeing shit like this.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
These ain’t no cornhole sista’s.
/Rob Parker
December 14th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
27 little kids.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Sick to my stomach. Can’t imagine
December 14th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Grew up 20 minutes from there. One of those “last places you would expect” towns. Terrible.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
I wish I had the answers to stop this from occurring over and over. Heartbreaking.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
December 14th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
worst school tragedy in American history, according to CNN.
Horrendous… but No… some nut blew up an entire school in Michigan 90 years ago.
2nd amendment though guys! Forefathers!
/fucking sick
December 14th, 2012 at 1:36 PM
correction.. some nut blew up 3 schools.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:37 PM
As a father shit like this makes it really hard to drop my little ones off at school in the morning, unfucking believable
December 14th, 2012 at 1:42 PM
“Andrew Kehoe, 55, who was enraged about a property tax levied to fund the construction of the school building.”
/Don’t politicize explosions guys
December 14th, 2012 at 1:43 PM
Kind of ironic that you provide a link above this statement to another act of senseless child violence at a school, but none of those victims died from gunshot wounds.
/I’m also Pro-gun control
December 14th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Kind of ironic that you provide a link above this statement to another act of senseless child violence at a school, but none of those victims died from gunshot wounds.
reading comprehension bro. I was responding to Jmac/CNN reporting that this was the worst school tragedy ever.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
forgot how much you assholes love to pick nits around here.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
God you’re stupid.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
That’s not irony. Those were two different thoughts. One was applied to the worst school tragedy, the second was to the actions of today’s event.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
I see this was already handled. Carry on.
December 14th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
really wish I could “Minority Report” this mother fucker
December 14th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
this. I’d just like to leave work and go pick up my daughter from daycare right now.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Sorry, should have said hypocritical instead of ironic. NRAheads love the argument that “If he wanted em dead, he’d find a way to do it, with or without a gun.”
December 14th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Says the guy who posted this earlier:
Also, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHY DON’T ALL YOU GUN NUTS JUST SHOOT YOURSELVES
December 14th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
I stand by that. Think they’re fucking heroes.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
This makes me wonder if I should plan to home school my son in a few years. Some sick fuckers out there.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Hey, I was out of internet/phone/twitter/facebook range for an hour, just wanted to make sure enough people were reacting inappropriately and making broad political statements and being general assholes about this? Yes? Ok, good.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
They stand in the way of a constructive discussion on the issue. The power of the gun lobby and the scared shitlessness of those who cling to guns (fuck you mikenyc, just fuck you) of the gubbermint taking their guns is just too far reaching. We’ve had eight mass shootings this year at least and not a goddamn thing is going to change. All it took in Britain was Hungerford and Dunblane, and a few years later gun sales were banned. Has Britain fallen into a sea of anarchy and liberalism? No.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
When we all know the real heroes are ones that dehumanize a tragic event to promote their own personal opinions.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
of all the BLS posts you can;t comment on, the books one would be cool
December 14th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
to be fair, they have a queen who obviously rules with an iron fist.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I like it better when you’re funny. can you kill off another celebrity, please?
December 14th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I’m all about some Don’t Tread On Me but its getting harder and harder to hold out. The bad thing is I can’t see anyway to prevent something like this. Even with gun control your’re never going to prevent crazy from happening.
Its hard as shit to get into my kids’ school would to hear how this fuck gained entry.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:18 PM
This is such a bullshit line of thinking. It’s not even remotely dehumanizing it. So were all the pushes for increased reporting of mental health diagnoses following the Tech shooting dehumanizing?
December 14th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Though Wayne I will say this: the people using it as a venue to bitch at Republicans and the NRA alone are indeed assholes, neither side of the aisle has the stones to address the issue.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Its hard as shit to get into my kids’ school would to hear how this fuck gained entry.
i’m in suburban chicago, and it’s not hard for me to get in my kids’ school. ring a bell, they ask what’s up by intercom, you say ‘volunteer’ or whatever, as long as it’s not, ‘here to shoot kids’ they buzz you in
better question me and wife are dealing with is how or whether to talk with our kids about this. our twin kindergartners are just home (half day K) and she asked people to text her updates rather than turning on TV
we usually talk with them about the real world but this might make them feel unsafe in school
December 14th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
also have a first grader in same school. if office staff knew this guy, some are saying he was a parent of a kid there, then entry was not likely difficult. not a location where there might be security or metal detectors
December 14th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Those Capital One commercials are really fucking irritating. Maybe I can do Baldwin and Fallon at once.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
i mean same school as the twins, not the connecticut one
December 14th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
im really conflicted about this issue…im pro-gun because i don’t trust the government, but there are more attention-starved psycopaths than ever it seems with easy access to handguns.
in either case, i feel like i should keep my 9mm in my house.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Anytime it’s a young gunman, the parents have to be blamed to a degree. They are often guilty of not taking necessary steps in dealing with their deeply disturbed child. Yet nobody in the media ever covers this angle
December 14th, 2012 at 2:24 PM
Well this guy murdered his parents this morning from the sound of it so I don’t know if there’s much interview potential.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
i feel like i should keep my 9mm in my house.
it’s where your trigger finger is
December 14th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
Good point on the parent entry. My kids school would see the parent on the camera and buzz in. Tragic.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:26 PM
This and, unfortunately, most other issues.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:27 PM
what a crappy way to grow up. I’m only 31 and can clearly remember the only thing I was worried about in elementary school was how many minutes were left till recess/lunch/end of the day. I can’t imagine my little kid feeling anxiety over the possibility of being shot during social studies class.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:28 PM
doing some research for a story and come across this awkward press release headline:
100th Anniversary of the Sinking of the Titanic a Reminder That No One Is Immune from Travel-Related Disasters
December 14th, 2012 at 2:30 PM
Those Capital One commercials are really fucking irritating. Maybe I can do Baldwin and Fallon at once.
i’m putting in my RFH (request for hit) for the geico caveman please. that shit hasn;t been funny since mango salsa
December 14th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
And if we’re not allowed to be pissed off now, when are we allowed to be? There’s been what, close to five hundred people killed in gun violence in Chicago thus far this year? Naturally we don’t care about that in terms of national discourse because it’s just black kids, but on the hole we as a country average around thirty thousand corpses with bullets in them each year, why the hell aren’t we allowed to talk about trying to deal with that?
December 14th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
heh heh heh on the hole
December 14th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
i’m putting in my RFH (request for hit) for the geico caveman please. that shit hasn;t been funny since mango salsa
agreed…but don’t fuck with mayhem
December 14th, 2012 at 2:31 PM
The inner city elementary school I volunteer at has an unlocked front door and only makes you sign in. Don’t even bother asking why you’re there.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:32 PM
yet again, you alliterate thoughts that are rolling through my head.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Just hearing about shooting. My god. What is wrong with people.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:33 PM
[ ] Business / Pleasure
[ ] Smuggle cigars
[ ] Assassinate Castro
December 14th, 2012 at 2:34 PM
/puts in box
December 14th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
[x] smuggle world class outfielder
December 14th, 2012 at 2:35 PM
because nobody markets senseless gun violence deaths as well as what’s been done for boob and ball cancers?
December 14th, 2012 at 2:37 PM
hey angry, what place did you choose for your office party?
December 14th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
yet again, you alliterate thoughts that are rolling through my head.
spence, you need to quit the office game and get to a mountaintop to await our knowledge seeking
December 14th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
When I was in Boulder, CO last Spring, we went to say goodbye to the girlfriend’s niece and nephews. I was amazed that I walked right in to an elementary school, strolled the two main halls, and into a classroom, without challenge.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Place is called Inovasi, Lake Bluff.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:41 PM
“Naturally we don’t care about that in terms of national discourse because it’s just black kids, but on the hole we as a country average around thirty thousand corpses with bullets in them each year, why the hell aren’t we allowed to talk about trying to deal with that?”
Obviously, if something could be done, I think everyone would be on board. The problem is that you seem to assume that those who are committing the gun violence in Chicago and this nut in Conn, would not do what they do if guns were outlawed. I don’t think there is any proof of that. Hell, that guy in, what was it, Norway?, that shot up that kids’ camp did so in a country that has very strict gun laws. And there’s the fact that gun related deaths are DOWN in D.C. since the passage of the pro-gun laws there (can’t remember if it was a concealed carry law or not).
I think the problem lies in the thinking that laws or government can somehow remove the crazy from someone that unfortunately is a part of human nature.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:44 PM
I think the problem lies in the thinking that laws or government can somehow remove the crazy from someone that unfortunately is a part of human nature.
It doesn’t seem to be part of human nature in some other countries. At least not to the same degree.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
Only feasible solution is to do a better job of identifying and treating these disturbed individuals earlier.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
in other countries, the crazies are in power and using their guns against their own people. see: syria, chechnya, libya, etc.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:46 PM
It’s not something that’s going to be fixed in the next few years, because of the number of guns already out there.
But the fundamental flaw with the argument you just made is this: the guns in the hands of the criminals are not handmade guns, they are legally produced guns. It is the proliferation and ease of access to legal guns that makes the ones obtained illegally easy to get. Every handgun used in a gun death was legally produced at some point.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
my first thought on that ms is that there are a whole lot of countries in which civil war and suicide attacks are a daily worry
just my first thought, i know no-filter is risky
December 14th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
December 14th, 2012 at 2:47 PM
in other countries, the crazies are in power and using their guns against their own people. see: syria, chechnya, libya, etc.
I was talking more about countries in Europe. The instant response to which is the Norwegian mass shooting of last summer. But the frequency of violence in schools does not seem to be anything in other western countries what it is here.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
Getting rid of guns is a pipe dream though
December 14th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
Yes, Spence, that 9mm is going to do wonders for you if the gov’t decides to take you down. I don’t trust the gov’t anymore than you do but people don’t seem to realize the 2nd amendment was put in place at a time when civilians had the same weaponry (by an large) as the military: muskets. These days, we have no chance. We just seem to use them against each other. If the gov’t decides to take you down, they use unmanned drones…not much any weapon you may have in your house is going to do to help you.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
agreed…it’s incredibly easy to purchase a gun at a gun show.
frankly, i think chris rock had it right…make ammo so expensive every shot would incur such a cost that it’d be impossible to use for anything other than hunting or self defense.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
it’s the fucking principle of the thing, man.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:49 PM
While I agree that mental health needs to be a huge part of this debate, two things.
1) It’s not an entirely separate issue. The Virginia Tech shooter was deemed mentally ill by a Commonwealth of Virginia agency, but was still legally allowed to purchase firearms. Pushes have been made since then to address this kind of thing, but it’s an issue that is tied together.
2) We live in a society where it is more socially “normal” to admit to owning a gun than admit to needing mental counseling.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
In this country it is. We’ve made our own grave.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:50 PM
I don’t trust the gov’t anymore than you do but people don’t seem to realize the 2nd amendment was put in place at a time when civilians had the same weaponry (by an large) as the military: muskets.
That’s because it was the citizens who made up the militia. Thus the first part of the 2nd Amendment: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state…”
December 14th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
This misses the point. Obviously one person stands no chance against the govt. The point of guns is the threat of revolution/resistance on a large scale
December 14th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
“the guns in the hands of the criminals are not handmade guns, they are legally produced guns. It is the proliferation and ease of access to legal guns that makes the ones obtained illegally easy to get. Every handgun used in a gun death was legally produced at some point.”
Well, what you are advocating for is a total ban on all guns? Leaving guns only in the hands of the government, be it the military, police, etc.?
Like spence, I don’t trust any government enough to advocate for that position. And history is pretty full of examples of dictators and madmen who, as one of their initial power grabs, ensure that no one but the government has access to weapons.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
if we successfully banned guns, would the crazies use machetes? i mean is there something about the gun that pushes crazy thoughts into action?
my angle is, one on one in a fight, a guy might use a weapon, because he fears a beating, but these incidents are not a gunman fearing for himself. the weapon seems designed for maximum damage in a short amount of time
and that’s another thing, when was the last time a female was a mass killer? ban males
December 14th, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Totally agree on these points. That is the cultural change that needs to happen
December 14th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Every person in this country could have a handgun and it wouldn’t matter one goddamn bit to the government if there were some kind of revolution.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
I don’t trust the government on a lot of things.
But I don’t live in Somalia. I don’t feel the need to justify the legality of assault rifles and the death of a fuckload of children on the fear of Randall Flagg coming to power.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:56 PM
That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. It wouldn’t completely eliminate guns, but if it kept guns from a few crazies’ hands it would be worthwhile. Imagine telling a parent who lost a kid today that it wouldn’t work so we just shouldn’t try. Looking at situations like this tells me everything that can be done should be.
This is just truly horrible.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
if every person in the country had a handgun, we’d have a lot more dead politicians.
obviously it’s ridiculous to claim an armed populace intimidates the government, but if a tank’s gonna run me over, i at least wanna take potshots at it.
December 14th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Debatable. US military has struggled against insurgents abroad, in much smaller #s
December 14th, 2012 at 2:57 PM
I don’t feel the need to justify the legality of assault rifles and the death of a fuckload of children on the fear of Randall Flagg coming to power.
this was my thought. we haven’t had a madman in almost 300 years of government, our system wouldn;t let one do shit if all of a sudden our previously sane prez wigged out. brings up images of martin sheen using a baby to shield himself from walken
December 14th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
All it takes is a depression for crazy to take power
December 14th, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Debatable. US military has struggled against insurgents abroad, in much smaller #s
when will there be more unrest in our country than there was in the 60s/70s? what would it take to motivate an organization capable of being a true threat? our country is too big
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
we had reagan and andrew jackson. that’s not crazy enough?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
“we haven’t had a madman in almost 300 years of government”
Those 300 years also came during a time when the gun laws have been as they are now.
Meanwhile, a mere 70 or 80 years ago, some dude confiscated all the arms, killed millions of Jews, and threw the world into utter chaos.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
All it takes is a depression for crazy to take power
maybe, but then would the military do his bidding? dude would be arrested
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
Debatable. US military has struggled against insurgents abroad, in much smaller #s
This is really what this debate is coming to? The question of when and if the government turned the military loose on civil society could we “take ‘em”? I feel that some perspective has been lost.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
no cable tv or internet.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:01 PM
“One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results.”
Would I love to get rid of gun violence? Absolutely. Do I think tough gun laws would make a difference? The evidence points to no.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
war on drugs!
..was a badass
December 14th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Meanwhile, a mere 70 or 80 years ago, some dude confiscated all the arms, killed millions of Jews, and threw the world into utter chaos.
Gun control led to the Holocaust? Am I reading that right?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
we had reagan and andrew jackson. that’s not crazy enough?
apparently not enough for revolution, or was i blacked out for the whole 80s?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Gun deaths per 100,000 in the UK: .22
Gun deaths per 100,000 in the US: 9
December 14th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
wish i could stick and stay for this, but kid duty calls
/miss me?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
It’s second amendment justification. I’m for strict guns laws, no doubt. But banning guns is something I can’t support
December 14th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
apparently you slept thru the part where reagan got shot.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Obviously it’s a different situation there because their society wasn’t as rotten as ours is now when their bans went into place, but there are places where gun control and safety have been able to coexist.
Our society though, it’s fucked.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Meanwhile, a mere 70 or 80 years ago, some dude confiscated all the arms, killed millions of Jews, and threw the world into utter chaos.
Round up the vegetarians too!
December 14th, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Gun CONFISCATION led to totalitarianism was his point
December 14th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
I don’t think European nations are a good comparison for the problems that plague the US. Apples and Oranges.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
apparently you slept thru the part where reagan got shot.
i remember that. john gacy right?
seriously tho, i thought we were discussing a power-mad leader enforcing martial law on the country. so sure, if we were on crazy folks shooting presidents, you are correct
December 14th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
i was mkaing a joke that, considering the context of the conversation, was poorly executed.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Agreed
December 14th, 2012 at 3:06 PM
agreed…we make better guns so of course they’re gonna be deadlier.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
the problems that plague the US. Apples and Oranges.
not sure what problems you are referring to. these things are done by disturbed people who get their hands on weapons. the only possible cure is to rid the country of all guns, legal and illegal. this is not possible, we have to live with the needles in the haystack
December 14th, 2012 at 3:07 PM
It’s second amendment justification.
Not a very good one. I’ve heard lots of arguments supporting gun ownership, most of which view guns as personal property which the protection of from the government is a cornerstone of western republicanism, but a justification which focuses on whether gun owners would successfully prevent the U.S. Army from instituting martial law and trampling on individual rights sounds like an argument that two 12 year olds would have after deciding which of their fathers could beat up the other one.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Pretty much. What the fuck is wrong with dudes? I blame video games and comic books.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
i was mkaing a joke that, considering the context of the conversation, was poorly executed.
it’s all good. i said i was leaving and yet…
December 14th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
When a Brit asks to sleep on your couch do you tell him to hit the bricks…you know your 3rd amendment rights?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Gun CONFISCATION led to totalitarianism was his point
No. No it didn’t. A plurality of German citizens voting for the National $ociali$t party is what led to Totalitarianism.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
honestly, i do…respond much like when a cop asks to search my house without a warrant.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Pretty much. What the fuck is wrong with dudes? I blame video games and comic books.
i’ve got two future serial killers here; not sure what to do about them
December 14th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Whitlock’s Twitter is awesome. First, he’s blindly RT the damning Tweets from “the shooter’s” Twitter account, and then he’s nice enough to RT the kid saying “wtf?”.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Uh the Nazis didn’t confiscate guns, that’s not even remotely accurate guys.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:10 PM
step 1 – no guns
step 2 – brainwash populace
step 3 – start genetic cleansing
YOU BASTARD, LOOK WHAT YOU’RE ADVOCATING.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Yeah. And the Weimar Republic already had gun registration laws.
What the Nazis DID do was ban gun ownership for Jews.
Along with:
Extended the length of carrying permits
Lowered the age limit for buying a gun.
Removed all restrictions from rifle purchases.
OMG GUYS CONFISCATION LED TO DEY TOOK ERR JERBS
December 14th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
It’s accurate enough…let’s just move on with a this perfect parallel.
/Don’t use Europe unless it’s the Nazis and it proves your point
Continue…
December 14th, 2012 at 3:11 PM
looks like kid duty has been lifted
December 14th, 2012 at 3:12 PM
yall want this to become weimerica, you liberal shits.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
You made the point, then disagreed with yourself. No one person is going to be able to protect anything. The point is scale. I’m not saying the military could be defeated by citizens, but it is absolutely a deterrent and an impediment to martial law
December 14th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
i said but honey the blog friends want to read my thoughts on gun control, mass killers and school access!
was easy
December 14th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
Mofucking Godwins Law, always bittersweet when morons kick it old school.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:14 PM
But let’s be honest here, banning Jews from purchasing firearms is just safety smart, those noses have got to fuck with the field of vision when trying to line up the sights.
/kaiser
December 14th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Do you think the average American citizen is more concerned with martial law or being murdered (or a friend/family member)? Which should they be more concerned with?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
it’s smart because they’re crack shots to save on ammo.
/kaiser
//just pass the racism on dahn
December 14th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Government can read your emails without a warrant and detain you without trial on foreign soil. Yeah they are super super scared dirty Harry, the world thanks you for your brave defense of liberty.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Between them, Rebecca Black and Carly Rae Jepsen have murdered the musical tastes of an entire generation.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Ignores scale again, well done
December 14th, 2012 at 3:17 PM
You made the point, then disagreed with yourself. No one person is going to be able to protect anything. The point is scale. I’m not saying the military could be defeated by citizens, but it is absolutely a deterrent and an impediment to martial law
What point did I make that I then disagreed with?
And if we’re really going to have this discussion, let me say that a military that has Tomahawk missiles, 10 nuclear powered aircraft carriers that carry 80 aircraft apiece, B-52 bombers, M-2 Bradley fighting vehicles, and M-1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks is not afraid of Cousin Phil and his two hunting rifles. The notion that that is some sort of martial law is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous assertions that I’ve ever heard. What prevents the military from imposing martial law is that the military leadership in this country has largely–though not entirely–throughout its history respected the civilian leadership appointed and elected over it.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Let’s not forget the 1,000,000 (+/- couple 100k) inflation that destroyed the deutschmark caused by payments to the winning sides of WW1. Yeah, usually economic disasters lead to totalitarianism.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
At this point in time, being murder without a doubt. Constitutional amendments aren’t made only for the immediate however
December 14th, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Jennifer San Marco in 2006 I think? The postal worker (obviously) that killed half a dozen folk.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
millions of abortions are performed every year.
sincerely,
the same side of the aisle as the gun nuts
December 14th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Don’t forget Apache helicopters, whatever the stealth helicopters they used to take down Bin-Laden, F/A 18s, F-22s, A-10s, who knows how many nuclear powered submarines, and B-2s.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
“Uh the Nazis didn’t confiscate guns, that’s not even remotely accurate guys.”
When it comes to the oppressed under the Nazi regime, you know, the Jews, yes, yes they did:
Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons
11 November 1938
With a basis in §31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p.265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and §9 of the Führer and Chancellor’s decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p 1331) are the following ordered:
§1
Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.
§2
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew’s possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.
§3
The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in §1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.
§4
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of §1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.
§5
For the implementation of this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.
§6
This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.
Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick
December 14th, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Also drones.
Also Steven Seagal.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
speaking of other things that are useless without an actual human being operating them and a logistics system in place…
are we jsut listing things that are dangerous when a dumbass uses them? GOLF BALLS, MILLER LITE, BIBLES.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:22 PM
“One dem der Drone dealies done nuked my outhouse”
December 14th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
That’s great, champ. You said confiscated all the guns. Which is not even remotely accurate and has zero basis in whatever point you are trying to make.
I love your username though.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Has this clown never read Godwin’s law?
Those who have not studied Godwin’s law are doomed to repeat it.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Lizzy Borden?
/allegedly
December 14th, 2012 at 3:25 PM
40 whacks man, not 40 slugs
December 14th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
The mail never stops.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
aileen warnos?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:29 PM
“Has this clown never read Godwin’s law?”
From your link, you smug prick:
The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering known mainstays of Nazi Germany such as genocide, eugenics or racial superiority, nor, more debatably, to a discussion of other totalitarian regimes or ideologies, if that was the explicit topic of conversation, since a Nazi comparison in those circumstances may be appropriate, in effect committing the fallacist’s fallacy. Whether it applies to humorous use or references to oneself is open to interpretation, since this would not be a fallacious attack against a debate opponent.
So, in summary, suck it you Canadian douchebag.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:30 PM
There’s never been a need for martial law is what’s prevented it from happening
December 14th, 2012 at 3:31 PM
aileen warnos?
not all at once tho
December 14th, 2012 at 3:32 PM
Let’s Move made Michelle Obama a cereal killer.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Don’t know who you are so can’t respond in turn.
Do you not think comparison of gun control laws with the Holocaust is hyperbolic?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:36 PM
There’s never been a need for martial law is what’s prevented it from happening
Martial law has been declared in localities and the National Guard and even federal troops called in on a number of occasions throughout history.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Bitches can be just as crazy. Here’s 8 examples (w/body counts), some already listed above.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20217
December 14th, 2012 at 3:37 PM
In all fairness, Canadian smug pricks are typically in British Columbia and Quebec. Ontario has douchebags who are proud of it.
Oops. Nevermind.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Exactly. Never on a large scale. The collapse of the dollar comes to mind as an impetus for something bigger
December 14th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
“The Baby Farmer” is a solid name for a serial killer.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:40 PM
“Do you not think comparison of gun control laws with the Holocaust is hyperbolic?”
I don’t think you understand the point I was making. I think you’re the one that’s making the wrong assumptions insofar as you seem to think that I’m arguing that strict gun control laws will lead to a Holocaust. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the abridgement of just about every single one of those rights enshrined in our Bill of Rights, the 2nd amendment being one of them. In Germany, the Nazis, when coming into power, had the benefit of gun control laws that were initially designed to keep them from having guns. Then, in 1938, they expanded those laws so that no Jews could own guns. Then they did what they did to the Jews. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Nazis would not have been able to practice their extermination of Jews as successfully as they did but for the gun control laws which were prevalent in Eastern Europe at that time.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Exactly. Never on a large scale. The collapse of the dollar comes to mind as an impetus for something bigger
You and Jason should meet. You have much in common.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:41 PM
go on
December 14th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
I got to say…the US falling apart with the collapse of the dollar…I’m not sure a nation full of guns is the safest thing.
/unless you are resting comfortably in JMac’s bunker
December 14th, 2012 at 3:43 PM
This is what I meant when I said deterrent and impediment. Didn’t say flawless defense. Deterrent and impediment
December 14th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
go on
He too is a doomsday prepper. He bought his wife a pink AR-15 for their anniversary two years ago. He was well-prepared for the food riots in the summer of 2010.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
What’s really important here is whether Cartmaniak can find video of the shooting on WorldStarHipHop or not
December 14th, 2012 at 3:46 PM
Thought it was an Argumentum ad hominem?
Here.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Outlier
December 14th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
Outlier
December 14th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
I gets regular tune ups from all my sluts, they polish my bolts and tighten my nuts.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:47 PM
I enjoyed reading the comments on worldstar regarding Rob Parker.
Basically, it went like this:
Commenter A “RG3 is a cornball brotha”
Commenter B to commenter A “you are what is wrong with black people in America”
December 14th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
i am too…it’s fun to accessorize. just need that doomsday so i can use all these cool toys.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:48 PM
Got a nose full of candy, and an ass made by Tandy.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Got a brand new high-speed modem and a silver plated scrotum.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:49 PM
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE
December 14th, 2012 at 3:50 PM
ATL_Badger?
December 14th, 2012 at 3:52 PM
There are a number of historians who have argued that the Nazis would not have been able to practice their extermination of Jews as successfully as they did but for the gun control laws which were prevalent in Eastern Europe at that time.
This is what I meant when I said deterrent and impediment. Didn’t say flawless defense. Deterrent and impediment
I think a fair analysis of how well people resist a government, outside or otherwise, can be done amongst the underground opposition groups in World War II. Many historians have argued that most underground movements, even with the help of SOE and OSS parachuting in supplies, made little or not impression on German control of their nation. Of the 60 divisions of the Germany Army in France on D-Day, none were assigned to internal security, despite France having one of the most celebrated underground movements of the war. The Polish Home Army, which rose in Warsaw in late 1944, was supplied by the SOE and OSS and caused considerable damage to Warsaw but the SS was able to crush all opposition in less than 60 days. Czech operatives assisted by British SOE agents assassinated Richard Heydrich in Lidice, Czechoslovakia. The response was the complete extermination of the village of Lidice and all of its inhabitants and the complete destruction of the Czech underground. One prosecutor at Nuremberg, when explaining the extent of German force during the pacification of Greece, proclaimed that in Greece “there are a 1,000 Lidices”. The only underground movement which had any large scale and sustained success was the Yugloslav Partisans led by Tito. And they had the mountainous terrain of the Balkans on their side.
So based on that, I think its clear that you can see why I don’t rate civilian gun ownership as an impediment to those forces which would rob a people of liberty, very highly.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:53 PM
He bought his wife a pink AR-15 for their anniversary two years ago.
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE
He never denied it. And said he was impressed that I knew what an AR-15 was.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:55 PM
and, yet, despite that and the OSS/SOE involvement with guerrilla groups one of the greek insurgencies created a whole other host of problems for the allies.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
that’s TBL in a nutshell right there. “im legitimately surprised a texan would know what an ar-15 is!”
December 14th, 2012 at 3:56 PM
and, yet, despite that and the OSS/SOE involvement with guerrilla groups one of the greek insurgencies created a whole other host of problems for the allies.
Namely, the Greek Civil War. The amount of communists in the SOE also led to their support of Tito’s Partisans over the Royalist supporting Chetniks….which greatly aided Tito’s rise to power and establishment of a communist government in Yugoslavia after the war.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:57 PM
In Western Xia, the Mongols, when coming into power, had the benefit of higher ground that were initially designed to keep their opponents at lower ground. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the elevation. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Mongols would not have been able to practice their conquest as successfully as they did but for the towns in built valleys which were prevalent in the 13th century.
/We all need to live in the mountains!
December 14th, 2012 at 3:58 PM
So based on that, I think its clear that you can see why I don’t rate civilian gun ownership as an impediment to those forces which would rob a people of liberty, very highly.
you obviously have never heard of the AMISH MAFIA!
December 14th, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Yet you’re accusing someone else of hyperbole
/hypocrisy!
December 14th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
In Western Xia, the Mongols, when coming into power, had the benefit of higher ground that were initially designed to keep their opponents at lower ground. Totalitarianism always seems to go hand in hand with the elevation. There are a number of historians who have argued that the Mongols would not have been able to practice their conquest as successfully as they did but for the towns in built valleys which were prevalent in the 13th century.
/We all need to live in the mountains!
/Team never get in a fight with someone at a game that is sitting above you
December 14th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Unless you’re willing to deliver a low blow
December 14th, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Reductio ad absurdum brah.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:06 PM
Unless you’re in the row that’s on the railing of the deck you’re in, then you can use it to your advantage and throw him to his death.
I presume we’re at a Texas Rangers game in this scenario?
December 14th, 2012 at 4:06 PM
NO ONE expects the Amish Mafia!
December 14th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
Whoa, your capable of using Latin phrases. My bad
December 14th, 2012 at 4:08 PM
you’re
December 14th, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Mentioning martial law in terms of gun control is akin to Homer Simpson checking the toilet every time for bombs after watching Lethal Weapon 2.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Team never get in a fight with someone at a game that is sitting above you
Unless you’re willing to deliver a low blow
Unless you’re in the row that’s on the railing of the deck you’re in, then you can use it to your advantage and throw him to his death.
hit him when he’s taking off his coat!
December 14th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Me too (Fairfield). Like I have maintained, none of these tragedies are any less devastating than any other one, but it’s a whole different world when it hits that close to home.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:49 PM
The Biatches in the original post are ratchet
/full circle
December 14th, 2012 at 8:33 PM
Sorry, should have said hypocritical instead of ironic. NRAheads love the argument that “If he wanted em dead, he’d find a way to do it, with or without a gun.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/12/14/22-kids-1-adult-injured-in-knife-attack-outside-chinese-school/?test=latestnews
They had a string of these things going back a few years, with 20 kids being killed and 50 injured, without a gun.