Josh Brent: .18 BAC, or the Equivalent of 20 Shots in Four Hours for a Man of His Size
Josh Brent, the Dallas Cowboys defensive lineman who drove drunk last weekend and flipped his car, killing Jerry Brown, a friend and teammate from the Cowboys practice squad, had a blood alcohol content of .18, or twice the legal limit.
The Morning News writes that Brent, who weighs 321 pounds:
According to one online blood alcohol content calculator, a person Brent’s size would have to drink about 20 shots over a four-hour period to reach that blood alcohol level.
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December 13th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
These things are a bit weird. I’ve listened to several toxicology experts testify on BAC during murder trials and it’s always fascinating to listen to, seems like one of the most inexact sciences there is.
Also, that’s a lot of hooch.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
/Offers “Thumb Trick” seminar talk for Rookie Symposium
//Speaking fee is double Cris Carter’s
///Hands a two and ten, stick your thumbs up, match thumbs to the lines of the road, aim between thumbs like a video game
////doesn’t drive
December 13th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Ever seen one of those dumb BAC testers in a bar?
It was impossible not to blow a .20 on those things.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Don Vito thinks Josh Brent is a pussy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmeuMtC9Qsg
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
If you had just taken a drink then those things will always read high. Most accurate tests come after drinking some water.
/have had the privilege of an IID.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
These things are a bit weird. I’ve listened to several toxicology experts testify on BAC during murder trials and it’s always fascinating to listen to, seems like one of the most inexact sciences there is.
double last warning, cowboy mike. Stop contradicting me.
/JMac
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Good way to get herpes, too.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Should have been drinking St. Ankey’s instead of Patron.
/ Allegedly
// Over/under for Goodell suspension is 17-1/2 days and a year out of football.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Did she believe you?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
1. BAC ≠ a certain level of impairedness. Please keep this in mind when armchair detective’ing.
2.
Please leave the lawyer’ing to the lawyers.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
That’s because people are blowing right after taking a drink/shot. There’s still alcohol in your mouth, which leads to higher readings.
It’s even more big brother than requiring a college athlete to have a checking account, but ignition interlocks should be required on all cars.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Leonard Little laughs at the puny reading of .18 from high atop his .19 pedestal achieved during the lawless pre-Goodell golden years.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:30 AM
3. Yea, he probably goes to jail for a while over this.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
John Bonham calls that a light evening of drinking.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Leonard Little got four years probation and 1,000 hours of community service. No idea how that is possible, fucking Missouri.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Yeah, there’s no such thing as super-drunk in the eyes of the law. Nor is there a but, but, but he was only .09 defense.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I don’t know how they could implement that. Other than on new cars. And then maybe once you need emissions they put one on. All I know is that if I ever have a kid and he reaches driving age and wants a vehicle I would buy him one and put an IID in it.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
that’s a lotta hooch.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Also, never blow.* You’ll get your license suspended (but get work/school), but the likelihood of aquittal goes up significantly since you’re not providing incriminating evidence.
*Ask a real lawyer, not an internet one.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Light weight.
/Riley Sheahan’d
December 13th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
All kinds of this^^^. The first thing a lawyer asks when you call him is usually “did you blow?” Tell him you did, and then listen to his voice/tone.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
A very long time? Maybe. Or he might do 6 months. These kind of sentences are all over the map. Regardless…the fact that he was twice the legal limit is not relevant to anything…you are either over the limit, or you are not.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
I thought the club promoter was tweeting they were drinking “Aces,” no?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
drove to Atlanta and back for the SECCG with a blow and go in my girlfriends car. that made for a long ass trip with that thing going off every 10-15 minutes.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
That was our favorite law school scenario to debate out. Not in class of course. Then one of my friends graduated and worked in the Tarrant County DA’s office. Said 1) don’t blow. 2) Tell them you don’t want to consent or sign anything without the advice of an attorney. 3) If you get out of the car or do any field testing, tell them you recently sprained your ankle playing basketball and walk with a limp.
* Don’t take my advice. I only went to law school, graduated, but not an attorney.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
I don’t understand how you could even figure out where the ignition is after that much booze.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
A very long time? Maybe. Or he might do 6 months. These kind of sentences are all over the map.
We must have mandatory minimum sentences!! If someone’s BAC is due to MD2020 or Purple drank, mandatory 10 year sentence! If it’s from wine or gin or whiskey, uh, 6 months!
/how mandatory minimums work for drugs
December 13th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Too much Burnett’s.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
This advice is getting less and less solid, as more and more states have implemented blood tests against ones will should you refuse to blow.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
I’ve seen that movie dozens of times and it only recently did it dawn on me that St. Anky’s = Stanky
December 13th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Yeah that’s AWFUL advice. Most states are implied consent states or having no refusal provisions, the result of which is if you get pulled over on suspicion of drunk driving and refuse the Breathalyzer you’re automatically taken to the police station and given a blood test (which is impossible to beat).
The only way you have a chance to get out of anything is during a check point because they check everyone. But if you’re pulled over, the cop will 100% of the time be given the benefit of the doubt on probable cause.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
His charge is Texas is max 20, minimum 2. He also had a previous OVI, which kicks up the minimum. My guess is 3 years, with 7 years probabtion.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Also, never blow.* You’ll get your license suspended (but get work/school), but the likelihood of aquittal goes up significantly since you’re not providing incriminating evidence.
*Ask a real lawyer, not an internet one.
This.
Co-worker got popped 4 times in less than 3 years. Never blew.* Other than the overnights when he got arrested, never did a day behind bars.
*no Coop
December 13th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
A police friend of my sister’s told us that if you get pulled over and you’ve been drinking, you should throw your keys out the window once the cop is out of his car and take a big sip of booze when he gets to the window. Supposedly, at that point, the cop wouldn’t be able to prove you drank before he witnessed it and you would only get charged with open container. Sounds too crazy to believe, but it did come from a cop. You’d have to have some big balls to try it IMO.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
!!!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Hey how about this? DON’T DRIVE WHEN YOU’RE SHITFACED.
/yes, I’m going to be That Guy
December 13th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
a lawyering buddy of mine told me to never agree to anything, just answer “no” to every question they ask, regardless of what it is. don’t be a smart ass or a dick or defensive about it, just answer “no”. a buddy of mine did it, to the point where they were just short of dragging him out of the car, and he got out of nearly all his charges and didn’t lose his license.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I can’t believe that would actually work. This sounds like the cop was fucking with you guys.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Bullshit.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Variations of this everywhere. The one I heard was if you’re in a wreck and you have an open container, start drinking because the cop can’t prove when you started.
Wouldn’t recommend trying it, though.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
JMac’s parents pay for your 3 years of frivolity?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Maybe he should have chugged maple syrup instead.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Urban legend.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Co-worker got popped 4 times in less than 3 years
It might be intervention time for that guy.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Hey how about this? DON’T DRIVE WHEN YOU’RE SHITFACED.
/yes, I’m going to be That Guy
Nothing wrong with saying this at all.
/team cab
December 13th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Yea I refused. They had a warrant to draw blood within about 90 minutes.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Your coworker needs help before he kills someone
December 13th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Snopes on DUIs.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
I was blacked out when I got mine in 2005. Apparently I immediately admitted to drinking, and because I couldn’t stand on my own, no field test. Blew a .26 about 2-3 hours after I stopped drinking at the station. I’m lucky I didn’t hurt anyone, including myself. Learned my lesson from that one.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
When pulled over you should pull on your ear lobe six times with fuck me eyes, after you’ve blown the cop execute him with his service revolver. Move to Canada after meeting up with Gustavo in Buffalo and he’ll get you your passports.
/not a lawyer
//cure is worse than the disease
December 13th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Nailed it.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Bunch of lushes up in here.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
These DUI fines and laws are draconian. I thought this was America? Not about saving lives. Just making money and ruining livelihoods.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
You mean like this?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Say what?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
I was the DD one night and got pulled over. Had about 3-4 beers in a 4 hour period. Statey was a total douche. Had me do all the tests (of which I asked questions about and made sure I took my time in doing to not fuck up) then he proceeds to tell me that I did them a little slow and asked too many questions, which lead him to believe I was intoxicated. Told him I was willing to blow (ha ha) so I did. I’m sitting in the car and he’s giving me instructions, so I blow in to the machine, and he just sits there and looks at it like it’s reading out in Latin. Proceeds to ask me if there’s anyone that can come get me to take me home. At this point, I’m sort of freaking out. I know there’s no way I’m over the limit, but he’s not showing me what it’s reading out as. So I ask him to see it, and it’s at a .037. Our limit is .08. He was a complete fucking douchebag and then gave me a lecture about how DD’s shouldn’t have any alcohol in their system. Get fucked.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
On that one story, it stems from sleeping in your car. If you are drunk and sleep in your car, put the keys underneath your car and sleep in the passenger seat. If you sleep in some parking lot with the keys in your pocket while on the driver’s side, some determined cop could get you for something. So again, if sleeping one off, put the keys outside the car and do not sleep in the driver’s seat.
/jmorris’d
December 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Can’t wait for Duffy’s bullshit post on this.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Those kind of cops are the worst. Why did you get pulled over in the first place?
December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Thats bullshit. Even IID’s allow you to drive up to like a .04
December 13th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
We do a bit of insurance defense, denied a claim because dude got hurt while driving drunk. His lawyer attempted this argument (got in a wreck, was hurting so grabbed the bottle of whiskey and started drinking to help with the pain). Haven’t heard anything from that guy for a while.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
A couple of weeks ago Jason said something about staying in school an extra year. Saw your comment about going to law school but not being a lawyer and connected the dots in my own personal way.
Guess the point was I don’t understand people who go to med school or law school and then don’t take the test.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
I was at a fantasy football draft, a deep league with 12 teams, 16 rounds, smoke breaks, etc. Real long. Had 3-4 beers over the 6 some hours. Had just bought some sandals and was driving home barefoot b/.c I was getting a blister. Cop put me through field test gymnsatics for about an hour trying to fail me. He had that super powered cop flashlight and did an ocular test for way too long, rendered me disoriented then demanded I start doing shit while I was disoriented. The steps this guy took to fuck with me really pissed me off.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
He said I was speeding. Never wrote me a ticket and quoted me two different speeds during my “interogation”. I speed all the time, but on nights like that, my cruise is always set at 70, so I knew he was full of shit.
December 13th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
in Missourah I assume? my only run in with the law came in MO, after I was pulled over going 76 mph. cop blatently told me after he pulled me over that because I was driving my buddies car with TX plates was the reason I got pulled over. when I went to court the judge was looking through the papers and said “you got pulled over for going 76 mph? I didn’t know they did that.” fuck Missouri state troopers.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Guess the point was I don’t understand people who go to med school or law school and then don’t take the test.
Because by the time you’re finished you figure out that that’s not what you want to do with your life?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
I’m guessing he got a job that didn’t require him to pass the bar. It’s not like he’ll never be able to take it.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Same thing happened to my buddy. Had a meeting at a bar, but nothing to drink other than Sprite. Driving my drunkass home, cop pulls him over says he suspects him of DUI. He’s tells cop he’s giving me a ride home, cop says you’ve gotta do the tests. He says just let me blow, cop says no. More hassle for a half hour. More cops come. Finally, they realize that he’s nowhere near drunk, but proceed to give him the most condescending lecture.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I don’t think it is that high. in the car mentioned above I tried to drive it home one morning (around 10:00 or so) and couldn’t start it. I kind of felt like a hero, in my own eyes at least.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Oh. Yeah, I hated law school. Mostly I hated the professors and the people sitting next to me in class. Probably should’ve quit but had too much fun. But…people think that law degree means you’re really smart. I got a job (same one I’ve still got) after one informal interview where I said, Hi, my name is RittyRich, I just graduated from law school and I’m looking for a job. So, it worked out.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Yeah, it was in MO. I have a buddy who is an officer for KCPD and he says the same things. My respect for state troopers after that experience was zero.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
BAC twice the legal limit means Brent will be going to jail for a very long time.
I was busy and didn’t read the comments, but I assume this has been mentioned. This is Texas. He’ll probably get a pat on the back and condolences for his dead friend.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Statey was a total douche.
State is irrelevant. All stateys are the worst. Except for William Costigan Jr. He broke the Costello crime syndicate.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Read that this morning. Good to see Clarett turn things around after prison (if true). Hope he keeps it up.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Hey how about this? DON’T DRIVE WHEN YOU’RE SHITFACED.
/yes, I’m going to be That Guy
everybody drives drunk in and around Dallas. Everybody.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
BAC twice the legal limit means Brent will be going to jail for a very long time.
if he was going to just plead guilty to vehicular manslaughter, then he’d probably get sentenced to jail for 2 years. He wouldn’t serve 2 years, though.
But he’s not pleading guilty to that charge. He’ll plead guilty to a lesser charge, and will probably get 90 days and 3 years probation, no license again, and then will be suspended for 1 year by the NFL.
Nobody pleads guilty to the thing they get charged with if they’ve got a lawyer, and are a professional football player. They plead guilty to a way lesser charge.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
What would make it bullshit? Are you one of those OSU homers who believes that Clarett was just making it all up and absolutely nothing shady was going on with him?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
I believe I heard the other day that Texas leads the nation in highway fatalities. Not that surprising, I guess, though California does have a much higher population.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
everybody drives drunk in and around Dallas. Everybody.
Buncha $30k a year millionaires in this bitch who think they are above the law.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Shades of grey. Are we talking Cam Newton/Memphis HS football shady? Then no. Are we talking ’bout no-show work/Oklahoma QB shady? Then yes.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
I believe I heard the other day that Texas leads the nation in highway fatalities.
There are areas of 59 and 45 around Houston that have large red street signs with a picture of a crashed car and stats that say something like “68 people killed and 184 injured on this portion of highway since 2008. Don’t drink and drive”. I’m not sure that one drunk person ever though has seen those signs and said “you’re right, maybe I should pull over”.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:09 AM
Your coworker needs help before he kills someone
Should have put “ex” in front of co-worker. Was fired after the 2nd. Cleaned up and, last I heard, he has been stone cold sober for 2+ years now.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
I had a breathalyzer that I could test before I blew into the IID. Usually under .04 you would get just a “WARN” from the IID. Which allows you to drive. You were probably still breathing fire that morning. I did that several times. Waking up with a .14 is fun and very unproductive to your day.
Then you must make the crucial decision of whether or not to wait to be able to drive or say fuck it and open a beer.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Please click the link on my name. Thanks.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Speaking of Texas highways, it’s getting scary out here in West Texas with this boom on. The PetroPlex can’t handle the increased population. There had been a serious accident and/or fatality a week there for a while.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I can’t tell if you’re serious of not, but a lot of people do make the argument that our DUI enforcement actually is ridiculously steep.
In reality, we have one of the shittiest and most juvenile systems of dealing with it. In most states you can get out of your first DUI by paying fines and an attorney an assload of money. In some states you can get several and never face anything other than a brief inconvenience and fines.
I spent one summer in Italy when my brother was stationed there and I was fucking terrified of the drivers. He told me that people drove like assholes but people didn’t really drive drunk that much. Naturally I was surprised by this what with how fucking cheap wine is, but he explained that the laws are a lot steeper. Anything over .15 is considered aggravated and you’re likely going to jail no matter what, also the government had gotten tired of people doing it so they passed laws that allowed for cops to seize and auction the cars of people pulled over for drunk driving. And they’re seen as one of the more lenient countries.
Germany is one of the harshest. You get a DUI, you have to undergo a screening process to determine whether you get your license back. If you blow more than .15 you automatically have to go through what they call a Medical Psychological Assessment which is a program where they do a bunch of mental tests to see if you’re fit (easy to game right? wrong) and do fucking liver analysis over the course of a year to find out if you’ve had a single drop of alcohol since getting popped.
A lot of countries in Europe have zero tolerance, which is to say there is no “legal limit.” If you have alcohol in your blood, you’re fucked.
The US, Canada, and Britain are three of the only countries that have the .08 limit. Most countries have .05 or below. While the policing system and legal system here are set up that is used as a money maker, the lack of effective punitive results here is a fucking joke.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I followed Clarett pretty closely. He attended Warren Harding his senior year, that’s where my wife is from (it’s pretty Friday Night Lights’s ish). He was on a team with Mario Manningham and Prescott Burgess and a # of other DI guys (lost to St. Ignatius when Anthony Gonzalez was there). I can’t read that story here but I’ll give it a review tonight if I can.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
/team cab
the cost of a DUI is what scares the crap out of me. i have it burned in my brain to do a cost analysis that is very simple- is this $20 cab right and next morning car whipping cheaper than $8K? Yes? than i hop in the cab.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
A lot of countries in Europe have zero tolerance, which is to say there is no “legal limit.” If you have alcohol in your blood, you’re fucked.
Czech Republic is like this. They have the highest beer consumption per capita of any country in the world, but it is illegal to drive with even a trace of alcohol in your system.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
the cost of a DUI is what scares the crap out of me. i have it burned in my brain to do a cost analysis that is very simple- is this $20 cab right and next morning car whipping cheaper than $8K? Yes? than i hop in the cab.
Exactly. And my wife has also made it clear and in no uncertain terms that if I ever come home shitfaced and I was the driver then she will slap the crap out of me. Her brother, before he killed himself, was pretty self-destructive in his behavior and I think she is wary about seeing that sort of thing in any one else she knows.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
I’m Team Cab nowadays. Got “E.T.” in my phone, being our cab lady that makes frequent trips to our bars.
Simple as texting her “E.T. Phone Home” and boom, no worries.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
everybody drives drunk in and around Dallas. Everybody
my buddy and his wife were headed to brunch after a long night a few months ago, and he got pulled over for running a stop sign, blew, and got popped for a DUI. the next morning.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Before I stopped drinking I was getting into the walk home > cabs. Cheaper and sobers you up a bit. Not always practical but I wondered why I didn’t do that more often.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
This. Mine has cost me at least that much already. And I still have almost three more years of driving with an IID at $97/mo. monitoring.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Around a third of traffic fatalities here are related to an impaired driver. There? Ten percent. Go figure!
December 13th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
team get your girlfriend pregnant so you have 9+ months worth of DD’s
December 13th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
My neighbor was driving drunk, ran over our mailbox and hit the electrical box in the yard and knocked out the power. Wife got up the next morning, saw our smashed mailbox and the tire tracks that led straight to his garage.
Called police, Cops show up and go to their house. Dude’s wife covered for him, said she was “working late” and fell asleep turning into our cul de sac and hit the mailbox. Cops said they could still smell alcohol on him when he answered the door. But couldn’t prove anything, so had to take her word.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Was that for killing that poor woman, or for the DUI he got LATER?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Guy who lived down the hall from me my freshman year got in an accident driving a girl home on a Saturday morning after waking up from a night of drinking. Girl died. As he was under 21 and had alcohol in his system still he was popped for the zero tolerance which turned it into vehicular manslaughter even though it wasn’t his fault. Sucked, wasn’t a bad kid, ruined his life.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
There’s an iPhone app called Uber that allows you to store a credit card. You call them and tell them your address and a private car, not a cab, picks you up. You pay nothing to the driver, they charge your credit card. The charge is comparable to a cab fare and there’s no tip. And the cars are pretty nice too. I’ve been picked up in a Suburban, a Lincoln Town Car and other comparable cars.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Before I stopped drinking I was getting into the walk home > cabs. Cheaper and sobers you up a bit. Not always practical but I wondered why I didn’t do that more often.
you obviously don’t live in Dallas. It’s 20 miles to anything you want, but it’s also 20 miles to everything. There’s not a lot of walking around in Dallas.
Also, you’ll get killed by a drunk driver if you’re out walking at night. Especially if you’ve got your head down in a map.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
This.
I always live within walking distance of work and my favorite watering holes. That way I can also pound down a few cocktails immediately after work without worry.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Golly-gee, I guess there was nothing shady about Cam Newton. Surely the whole incident didn’t require a new NCAA rule saying parents can’t take money…
December 13th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Whoa.
For Brent, he should do time, but no sentence will trump the knowledge that he killed his friend.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Before I stopped drinking I was getting into the walk home > cabs. Cheaper and sobers you up a bit. Not always practical but I wondered why I didn’t do that more often.
This. Best part about moving into the city from the ‘burbs.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Sucked, wasn’t a bad kid, ruined his life.
bitches, amirite? You can’t live with ‘em, you can’t accidentally kill them while driving impaired.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
bitches, amirite? You can’t live with ‘em, you can’t accidentally kill them while driving impaired.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
truth and excellence.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I always live within walking distance of work and my favorite watering holes. That way I can also pound down a few cocktails immediately after work without worry.
This is true but Nada, and I’ll say this in the nicest way I can, the part of town you live in is rife with pretensiousness and douchebaggery.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
And most of them live in my apartment complex, apparently.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Whoops. I read that as :
Er ah, bitches, rite? You can’t live with ‘em, er ah you can’t accidentally drown them while driving impaired. er ah
/Ted Kennedy
December 13th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Concur. See my previous comment.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I have done this before, thought I could walk all the way home, started walking to my apt., sobered up and realized it was too far to walk, walked to nearest convenience store and found a pay phone (remember those), called cab.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Golly gee is right.
What do you mean that part of town? I thought it was the entire town.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
All of this. Pissed me off that it took me losing my license to realize how easily I could have gotten around using public transportation. Even though I didn’t live directly in Boston, the T was plenty accessible enough to me, and I had no idea. 3 bus stops within 10 minutes of my place that went to two different subways.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Wouldn’t have been impaired were he two years older, that was the shitty part.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
L’exception, c’est moi.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Wouldn’t have been impaired were he two years older, that was the shitty part.
seems like the shitty part is the part where he killed the girl, no?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
What do you mean that part of town? I thought it was the entire town.
Go to Oak Cliff and say that. But do it quickly because of gentrification are heading there as we speak.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
My favorite was while living in Bloomington, IN. Was at the bars and decided to walk home after one too many A(dios)M(other)F(ucker). Was nice and slippery out with most of the sidewalks covered in ice. Got about halfway home and realized I was exhausted. Tried to buy a pizza and have the guy deliver it and me to my apartment. When they turned me down I had to continue walking. Figured I would take a shortcut through Bloomington South High School’s athletic fields. Unknown to me there was an 8′-10′ tall fence between the school and my apartment complex. That thing was a bitch to climb.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Accident wasn’t caused by him.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
The charge is comparable to a cab fare and there’s no tip.
I also did that, Red Sparrow was the name of the group locally that offered that car service.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Tried to buy a pizza and have the guy deliver it and me to my apartment.
that’s a nice try. It was never going to work, but that’s a nice try.
I’m surprised that you didn’t ask a cop for a ride home at any point.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Don’t add this to name link. Or this.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Wait there are car services that aren’t covers for escort services?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Accident wasn’t caused by him.
it also wasn’t prevented by him, now was it? I hate your friend.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Oh he wasn’t my friend.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Wasn’t quite that drunk. I didn’t even try to hitch.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Wait there are car services that aren’t covers for escort services?
Yep. Though if Uber is a cover for an escort service then I’m pissed off for not being offered the second part of their business.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Oh he wasn’t my friend.
smart man.
/i mean him
December 13th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
i had to look up that AMF drink. like a long island without a coke along with some fruity crap. You deserved to climb that wall.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
December 13th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
When I was in college and didn’t have a car, I was walking home completely blotto. I had to cross a huge field that was totally empty except for one huge oak tree right in the middle.
I was so drunk I had to watch my feet to make sure I was moving them correctly.
And as I stumbled onward, I walked right into the tree.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
who you calling friend pal?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
I have to get in all my fucking with you now, since you’re on quadruple secret immolation probation.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Coop?
December 13th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
They were cheap and did the job. They also might have done the job too well.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Coop?
coop actually told us that he actually kissed a dude, on purpose.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
They knew you were not the target market as you pulled those wadded up singles out of your pocket to pay the fare.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Nada are you familiar with the area between M Streets and Lovers Lane? When I was in college I lived in the Amesbury Parc apartments just south of University. I was at Jack’s Pub on Yale Boulevard at the end of senior year drinking with friends. Anyway I got pretty drunk and decided to walk home and sleep it off. If you do know the area then you know Jack’s (which no longer exists) was not that far from an apartment complex just south of University and just east of Greenville; 25 minute walk at the most. I was so drunk though I got lost and found myself walking alongside a DART rail track. As I was doing so I saw an apartment complex and remembered that the DART rail runs immediately outside my bedroom window on the other side of the fence. So I climbed the fence and came down the other side and looked around and realized that that wasn’t my apartment complex. I still don’t know which one it was. Long story short I ended up at Skillman and Lovers and called a friend to pick me up. I was less than a quarter of a mile from where I lived.
I still don’t know how I didn’t get arrested that night.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
I used to have a friend who would tell 20 minute stories which inevitably ended with this phrase.
That said, I enjoyed your story.
December 13th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
that’s funny ms although I was waiting for a back to the future type going into the wrong bedroom being threatened by the old man waving a bat, payoff.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
If I had explored further into that first apartment complex then that might have happened scripty.
I also left out the part where I was walking through neighborhoods and tripping over garbage bags of grass clippings. More than once. The next day my body looked like I had been in a fight.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Walking home from a formal at PSU to change so I could go back out (didn’t want to goto a bar in my suit) I tripped while drunk and fell in some mud, so I had mud all over my suit, wasn’t paying attention when I got to my building, got off on the wrong floor and went to the apartment that was below mine, walked in the unlocked door, down the hallway to my bedroom, opened the door, and realized I was in someone else’s apartment. Luckily nobody was home, but I realized later that four off the boat Koreans lived there and I wish they had been home because a drunken mud covered giant guy in a suit busting in on them would probably have scarred them for life.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
If you’re a cop and you drop a drunk off a Taco Bell and he gets killed walking home, it’ll cost you $20.
A lot more to that story, but that’s disgusting.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Ruining the very pants you were about to return!!!
December 13th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
I have been forced to drive drunk by a police officer before.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
/boobs
December 13th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
As have I. A very weird convesation.
/Wasn’t really a conversation
//”Officer, I can’t drive.”
///”Get the fuck out of here before I arrest all three of you.”
////”What?”
/////”Go!”
//////Jist of it.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
is ark making an announcement?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I just read all those comments about surviving when your car goes underwater and you have to escape. I am quite depressed.
December 13th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
i have three or four close call stories. stopped for one thing, field tested, passed, didn;t get the ticket for the original stoppage reason, driven to a restaurant i was headed to bc i was close enough to incapable, then returned to get my car (stupid). silly stuff i’m glad i never had to pay for in fines or license suspension
December 13th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
I am quite depressed.
strange reaction. freaked out, sure. wondering if you’d panic or be cool, yep. but depressed?
December 13th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
some of the blame here needs to be placed on Brown for getting in the car. Not all, not most, but some.
December 13th, 2012 at 5:45 PM
1. Yes, there are increased penalties for driving “super drunk.” In Illinois, for example, if you blow over a .16 on a first time DUI, it’s an extra 100 hours community service (kind of a joke. If you blow over a .16 on a second DUI, it’s a mandatory minimum 2 days in jail and minimum $1,250 fine, plus an extra mandatory minimumm 5 days in jail or 240 ours of public service. Third timer with a kid in the car, $25,000 fine.
2. The really close to .08 blows are far more likely to get reduced to a reckless driving or other lesser offense. But you are correct, blowing over is blowing over. It’s really more of a mitigation factor.