I always thought it was Florida putting the kibosh on FSU membership.

That’s part of it. SEC membership is an advantage Fla has over FSU that they won’t give up easily. But the SEC kinda wants to have their cake and eat it too – they want to go into new states/markets while maintaining their southern-ness. That’s why VT and NC/NC State have been mentioned.
It’s funny b/c if we were starting from scratch, there’s no way the Mississippi schools would end up in a power conference.

Ive always heard that the SEC doesnt want FSU or Clemson because they already have teams in those markets

I always thought it was Florida putting the kibosh on FSU membership.

Ive always heard that the SEC doesnt want FSU or Clemson because they already have teams in those markets and VaTech would be a better option.

I’m workign so many realignment hypotheicals that I confused myself. Yes, Va Tech and NC State to SEC, Clemson and FSU to the Big 12.

and the SEC (FSU, Clemson, NC State)

Ive always heard that the SEC doesnt want FSU or Clemson because they already have teams in those markets and VaTech would be a better option.

OK, so the A-10 splits $5MM a year between it’s 14 members. Ugh.

I thik the NCAA tourney gives conferences like $150k for each team placed in the tourney and I think schools get 50% of that (depending on the conference), so a school in a successful conference can nearly double their rights deal.

That’s why I’m saying the hoops only schools don’t need to be in some cash grab (because there is not much cash.) Butler did it, but the Horizon is a bottom tier conference. Hell, the MVC is probably on par with the A-10 now.

http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2012/10/3/3448664/new-atlantic-10-television-contract-shows-big-east-basketball-schools

They sell out every game, don’t they? Changing conferences isn’t going to change that. Great fans up there.

Is playing at MSG still a thing on the East coast? Because nobody in the midwest cares.

I don’t think Creighton is seeing a windfall of cash from playing on ESPNU once a month.

The cash wouldn’t be any different playing in some bastardized hybrid football/basketball half conference (or whatever the Big East ends up being.)

Well here’s the thing – for the bball only schools the money will never be great.

I don’t know what the A-10 TV contract is like, but Xavier and Dayton both brought in roughly $10MM in basketball revenue which is more than a lot of top programs from top conferences. Creighton, which usually ranks in the top 20 in home attendance, brought in $5MM.

I’ll give you Butler. They earned the right not to be in the Horizon league.

The conference jumps in baketball have to do with making the tourney, where you then get a share of the money. For example, Butler made the move to the A-10 with the thought being they can finish in the Top 5 there and make the tourney, rather than having to win the Horizon League.

I don’t think Creighton is seeing a windfall of cash from playing on ESPNU once a month.

Well here’s the thing – for the bball only schools the money will never be great. The perks would be – a possible slot on ESPN’s Big Monday (and more ESPN/CBS/ABC games in general) and easier access to the tournament, where strength of schedule matters a lot more than it does in CFB.

Why would they jump to a dead conference like the Big East when they are having tremendous success where they are at currently?

I don’t think Creighton is seeing a windfall of cash from playing on ESPNU once a month.

Xavier, Butler, WSU, Creighton, they are happy where they are at.

Well it wouldnt be the Big East anymore. And i would put WSU and Creighton separate, those two schools have history in their conferences. Xavier, Butler, and SLU have no long-standing ties to the A-10, which just lost their “flagship” Temple and keeps reshuffling every year. You dont think a basketball only conf. with bigger names and the possibility of playing in MSG every year would appeal to these schools? Hell Butler just jumped for a better opportunity.

Maybe I’m underestimating this, but I think some of you are overestimating the non-football schools’ desires to jump into the unknown. Xavier, Butler, WSU, Creighton, they are happy where they are at. Why would they jump to a dead conference like the Big East when they are having tremendous success where they are at currently?

The Big East bball schools are finally realizing that the Big East is dead.

It’s a bit ironic since they’re the ones that killed it.

grant of rites.

Jebus. Rights

In reference to the Big East, “rites” might indeed be a better choice.