NHL Negotiations Break Down, Bettman is Killing the Sport
The NHL is stuck in its third-straight protracted lockout during collective bargaining negotiations since Gary Bettman became commissioner. With negotiations having broken down, missing a second full season in nine years seems probable. Here are a couple facts that don’t sound promising.
Bill Daly, the NHL’s deputy commissioner, called five-year player contract limits “the hill we’ll die on.” The war metaphor exhibits the combative tenor the negotiations have taken. To use another martial metaphor, the owners seem more concerned with winning this battle than the ultimate war.
Rangers forward Brad Richards claimed the owners were not even present for the latest negotiations. Not like the situation is urgent or anything…
“It becomes more obvious that it is ultimatum style negotiating,” Richards said. “(The owners) weren’t even in town to negotiate tonight. Owners and player meetings went well but we needed professionals to close the deal and thought that’s what we were attempting to begin to do. To hear we said if we get a pension deal then we agree to everything they want is a bit confusing, but hopefully both sides step back and realize how important it is to get back to the table ASAP.”
The league’s ultimate problem is not hard to decipher looking at the team by team financial data. Teams in Canada and natural hockey markets in the Northern U.S. are making money. Teams in the south, mostly misguided expansion and relocation projects under Bettman in the 1990s, are hemorrhaging money. Those owners are better off not playing hockey. The true hill the league “will die on” is not contract limits, but being unwilling to acknowledge or to correct the catastrophic mistakes made during Garry Bettman’s tenure.
Bettman began with the NHL as the fourth major sport. Have any casual hockey fans even noticed its absence? Does a casual hockey fan even exist anymore?
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December 7th, 2012 at 6:23 PM
Seems to me it’s the opposite.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:31 PM
Bettman has gradually killed interest in the sport on a broader scale. But I put most the blame on Don Fehr and the NHLPA for this lockout continuing.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:36 PM
Bettman is the common denominator in three extended work stoppages. He flushed an entire season last time to get a CBA that would fix the league’s economic model. He clearly failed the last time around and he’s on his way to doing so again. No idea how he stays employed.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:43 PM
Agreed Columbus has zero right to have a team.
/preemtive shut the fuck up to milk steak, don’t care about your early franchise attendance, your support and your state is dogshit
December 7th, 2012 at 6:48 PM
Agreed Rob Burkle and Sidney Crosby failed miserably.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:49 PM
Agreed it must suck the most for the Wings because their window is about to slam shut faster than the speed of a Lidstrom shot missing an empty net by two feet.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:51 PM
Agreed that this new deal will fuck my team hard.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:52 PM
All I want is no salary cap. No Carolina. No Tampa. No Florida. No Phoenix. No Anaheim. No Columbus. No New Jersey. Dallas, Nashville, and LA are still fine. Dissolve all those teams and then create franchises in QC, Hamilton, Kansas City, and Seattle. Conduct an expansion draft between them for all those franchises’ players.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Also an amnesty clause so the Penguins can get rid of Paul Fucking Martin.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:55 PM
Agreed. Could live with some sort of soft cap and no cap floor. Just want hockey before Datsyuk decides to stay in Russia.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:57 PM
On the other hand, maybe Ovie will stay.
December 7th, 2012 at 6:59 PM
Buy this man a beer.
Toronto-based Santa tells 3-year-old “Leafs suck,” gets canned
December 7th, 2012 at 7:08 PM
Most 3-year-olds here have figured that out already. This kid must have been slow.
December 7th, 2012 at 7:23 PM
I live very close to the area. Were it not for seeing a group of fans walking downtown while wearing Blackhawks sweaters last year, I wouldn’t know there is/was an NHL team here.
December 7th, 2012 at 7:24 PM
area = arena
Also, I did see an All-Star game sign at the airport, so there’s that.
December 7th, 2012 at 7:47 PM
Hey Cowboy. You want to dissolve Columbus but give a franchise to Kansas City? That’s rich.
Take your Columbus hater-ade and stick it somewhere.
The franchise was fine until run into the ground. It was never well run, but the straw finally broke after years of idiocy.
There are 6-8 places that need to go before Columbus. Now, if you make the argument that its a 16 team league, then the Jackets need to go to…
December 7th, 2012 at 9:00 PM
I don’t like the idea of KC getting a team, but with the Sprint Center, it seems like an inevitability.
Columbus has employed Howson and Patrick within the last year, that’s just awful.
I will give them credit where due though: Nationwide is a cheap and nice place to watch a game.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:00 PM
I feel like Nashville was really starting to gain momentum. They are throwing “perks” at season ticket holders to try to get them to keep their money locked in.
Not that hockey was doing great in this town, but a season-long shut down may kill it.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:06 PM
I’ve never been to Nashville, what’s their arena like in terms of proximity to where people are? My biggest problem with Carolina is going to games is an awful experience. The only thing around the arena is the other NCSU sports complexes, a Comfort Suites and a shitty little sports chain restaurant. Anything else is miles away. Just a wretched setup.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:10 PM
Nashville area is as downtown as you can get. The lockout is killing bars/restaurants that plan on having that revenue. People who don’t live in the city itself are close enough. We’re in a suburb about 10 miles out of the heart of the city.
Has to be a perfect location.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Should have stayed in Hartford, in their downtown arena. When they left, I left hockey
December 7th, 2012 at 9:15 PM
Columbus is on the right track. They just need to be moved to the East along with the Wings. And by that I mean the Wings need to be moved and if possible Columbus as well. Nashville has been screwed with that Weber contract. They had no choice though.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:17 PM
The only thing around the arena is the other NCSU sports complexes, a Comfort Suites and a shitty little sports chain restaurant. Anything else is miles away. Just a wretched setup.
You describing that reminds me of Gillette Stadium. People from Foxboro better count their lucky stars that that’s where they chose to put that stadium. That place is a shithole that will rival any other shithole.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
Difference is that people are willing to trek to a stadium in the middle of nowhere eight times a season. Forty times? Not so much.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:19 PM
*residents of Miami excluded
December 7th, 2012 at 9:21 PM
I was just talking about in terms of quality surroundings, I could give a fuck less if people show up or not. Minus the game, that was the worst long road trip I’ve ever made. Went there for a weekend, and there was absolutely nothing to do, unless you wanted to eat at Applebee’s and shop at Target the whole time. Oh, and they had a snowmobile dealership.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:23 PM
Carolina should be a threat in the East whenever the season starts. Unfortunately, Semin will probably stay in Russia. They lack depth but their top 6 and back 4 are really solid.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:24 PM
Carolina should be a threat in the East
wheneverif the season starts.December 7th, 2012 at 9:28 PM
True. A downtown stadium is not feasible in Boston or NYC. Kraft threatened to bring the team to downtown Hartford, but that had no real legs
December 7th, 2012 at 9:30 PM
Did you stay around the stadium? Absolutely must stay in Boston if going to a Pats game as an out of towner
December 7th, 2012 at 9:30 PM
I imagine the reason they put it there is like you said Boston wouldn’t have room for it and I would also guess that the land in Foxboro was probably purchased for pennies on the dollar.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:31 PM
Probably about 15 minutes from there. I regretted not staying in Boston.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:33 PM
I’ll be honest, I actually would like a place like Foxboro certain parts of the year. I’m big into hunting and fishing and a lot of the areas we passed on the way up looked like fisherman/hunter’s paradise, but as for an out of towner on a quick vacation, that place sucked.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:37 PM
So The Hobbit is only sitting at %72 good reviews with around forty in thus far. That’s not good. Even more worrying is that four of the five top critics that have reviewed it thus far weren’t favorable (Time, Hollywood Reporter, Village Voice, and the AP). Apparently it’s, get this, boring and drawn out.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:39 PM
I wanted to go see that, but figured I’d wait a few weeks after it opens so I’m not going with people of the costumed and mega-nerd variety.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:40 PM
Not surprised. Aren’t they breaking The Hobbit into a couple movies? I thought I read that somewhere.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Supposed to be 3 I thought.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:41 PM
Yeah three movies. There isn’t close to three movies material in that book, one 2.5 hour long movie would be plenty.
I’ll still be seeing it opening weekend but man I hate Peter Jackson.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
I heard Game of Thrones is only covering half the next book for this season. If that’s the case, I might be done watching that shit. That’s why I don’t get into too many shows that carry on. I get tired of following them. I’m not trying to be pushing 30 still following the same god damn show.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
WW2 from Space is a fascinating history channel show, on now on the east coast for those history buffs around here.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:43 PM
Assuming you’re coming from south, there is a lot of minimally inhabited/developed area in eastern CT.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:44 PM
It’s because there is way too much and the third book has the most major plotpoints and character deaths of any of the books. They’ve already skipped and cut a bunch of shit, it won’t be to draw it out, it will be so they don’t have to rush certain events.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:45 PM
What’s the consensus on Skyfall? Considering making a very rare movie theater appearance
December 7th, 2012 at 9:45 PM
No shit, I remember reading The Hobbit and it was a quick read. Three movies? Fuck that. IIRC, The Hobbit is shorter than any of the other books.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
what is it?
December 7th, 2012 at 9:46 PM
I loved the first season, but I was fine not watching the second when it aired, even though I loved the books.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:47 PM
I could see that, but still. Watched for 2 years. Half the book this season. Half a book next? If they keep that rate up that’s 6 years. I know people that followed Lost and all that will laugh at my measly 6 years, but that’s why I quit watching Breaking Bad. I lose interest.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
It’s the most well made Bond movie I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen them all many times (not counting Brosnan movies outside Goldeneye, those don’t count).
December 7th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
nice CG to show battlefields, strategic targets, reasons for battle, why they were won/lost. good pacing for covering the whole war in 90 minutes.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:48 PM
What’s the consensus on Skyfall? Considering making a very rare movie theater appearance
Good. Just don’t listen to critics saying it’s the best Bond ever or you’ll be let down.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
I’ll never read those books. I’ve wiki’d so much of that shit. I liked the second season more. I also liked the show so much more after I re-watched it.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:50 PM
I think it’s the best movie in the series, but I don’t think it’s the best “Bond movie.” If that makes sense.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
If that makes sense.
I can agree with that. Who was it on here that was talking about his wife’s cat getting to his replica model Bond car? That was funny as shit. Sorry to laugh at your previous misfortune…but we’ve all been there.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:53 PM
December 7th, 2012 at 9:56 PM
I found a pair of sunglasses on a gold course. Think they’re called Pugg’s or something. They sell these things at convenience stores for like 4 dollars, but this pair was the most comfortable pair of sunglasses I’ve ever had and haven’t been able to find a replacement. Dog turned them into a make-shift pup-a-roni stick and ate the shit out of those things. Bastard.
December 7th, 2012 at 9:57 PM
golf*
December 7th, 2012 at 10:01 PM
This is depressing without college football
/settles for NBA betting and FCS playoff game
//begins to get drunk
December 7th, 2012 at 10:05 PM
There’s no color in Raleigh now?
December 7th, 2012 at 10:08 PM
//begins to get drunk
I’d do that after work but I had to drop some unexpected money on my truck at the beginning of this week. My broke ass is pinching pennies till payday. No beer for me.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Pussy.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Wasn’t credit card debt invented for this very reason?
December 7th, 2012 at 10:20 PM
I have a few bottles of rum in my freezer and the hosue to myself all weekend.
Also a bunch of airplane bottles of German liquers from the forties that I’ve been meaning to drink and discover whether or not they’re toxic.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Speaking of beer, Connecticut has to have the dumbest liquor laws in the nation, dry counties excepted. Sunday sales weren’t legal until this year, and 9pm is the end of the liquor selling day
December 7th, 2012 at 10:23 PM
And supermarkets can sell beer, but not liquor…
December 7th, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Oh hi, welcome to Pennsylvania where you can’t buy beer in grocery stores of gas station STOP COMPLAINING
December 7th, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Drink em.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:31 PM
I don’t think they’re actually from the forties but they are definitely at least forty years old. http://i.imgur.com/ijWt5.jpg
December 7th, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Wasn’t credit card debt invented for this very reason?
I set up my card to not allow me to overdraw, whether as credit or debit. I’m not broke just yet, but very close, and I still have another week till payday. So I’m exercising self control and not buying beer after work tonight.
/Buys beer after work tomorrow night
December 7th, 2012 at 10:34 PM
I suggest drinking them, on the basis of it being alcohol. I’m drinking whatever is at my place. Some wine, a few Coronas, some bourbon, and maybe gin and tonic
December 7th, 2012 at 10:34 PM
Take the trip take the ride.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Take the trip take the ride.
I’m sure the answer to who killed Steve McNair is at the bottom of that bottle. Keep swigging….
December 7th, 2012 at 10:36 PM
The wise move. I’m always amazed by some of my friends willingness to go into credit card debt. Color me conservative in that regard….cum* me conservative. Forgot color was banned
December 7th, 2012 at 10:40 PM
Haha, whole reason I set it up like that is a funny (now) story. It was bullshit then. Few years ago around tax time, I went to check my balance at an ATM to see if my return got put in there, not realizing it charged just to check your balance. It took me in the negative. And so in order to get my bank to let Uncle Sam put my return in there I had to drive all the way to the bank to give them 33 cents to get my account back to 0 so they’d put my money in there. Should’ve just taken it out of my check, but that would require thought and common sense on their part.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:40 PM
*buy the ticket take the ride. Come on man.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:43 PM
The state of Michigan has it’s flaws. The where and when in regards to purchasing alcohol isn’t one of them.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:44 PM
At least we can all agree, in this respect, at least we don’t live in Canada.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Dude, I know. I was thinking of the phrase. I failed.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:46 PM
California too. LA is the most despicably governed city I’ve experienced, but at least alcohol can be purchased until 2am, seven days a week
December 7th, 2012 at 10:48 PM
Detroit is so much worse. I hate the city council in Detroit so much.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:48 PM
alcohol can be purchased until 2am, seven days a week
So that’s what Heaven’s like?
December 7th, 2012 at 10:50 PM
At least we can all agree, in this respect, at least we don’t live in Canada.
I don’t know why I hate Canada so much. But I do.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:51 PM
I love Canada. Just hate when a Canadian pipes in and talks American politics constantly.
December 7th, 2012 at 10:59 PM
Only time I went to Detroit was a couple days for Super Bowl, so I don’t know much of it, aside from downtown being a ghost town and the scary neighborhoods.
This is a true story about LA city govt and it’s money grab…they actually had LAPD motorcycle officers sitting at the end of a crosswalk, waiting for SC students to cross on their bicycles. When the bikers reached the officer, they were greeted with $400 tickets. Apparently it’s illegal to bike through a crosswalk. One guy I knew who got one fought it in court, and got it reduced to $200. This is one of the many egregiously misguided money-grabs. Meanwhile, the traffic is unbearable and the pots holes makes roads unnavigable. The city of angels!!
December 7th, 2012 at 11:00 PM
who* fought it in court..pot* holes
December 7th, 2012 at 11:00 PM
Well, well. CBJ are one of the last clubs to be folded. People in Columbus gave a shit until the CBJ stopped trying. Look to Florida, Texas, Arizona, Carolina, Tennessee and other before the the CBJ.
/Also, there a brazilian steakhouse across from the arena.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:01 PM
Now off to porn…
December 7th, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Hillbilly.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:07 PM
We have these stupid fucking seatbelt “enforcement zones”. 27 murders and counting this year in an area of 100,000 people, but who gives a hit. Let’s shake granny down for not wearing a seatbelt.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:10 PM
brazilian steakhouse
Where the steaks taste like burnt tarantulas and poverty. Mmmmmm mmmmm beeeitch.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:11 PM
27 murders and counting this year in an area of 100,000 people, but who gives a hit.
27 people gave a hit obviously.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:13 PM
My brother WFS. Way more than 27 murders. It seems like 5-10 people get murdered in Detroit in a weekend.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Yeah, but there’s a heck of a lot more people down there to shoot.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:19 PM
I love Canada but their booze is laughably expensive.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:20 PM
I just want a real leader in Detroit. Someone to bitch slap the council and take control. I’m tired of this black/white shit. We need solutions and leadership.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:20 PM
I figured it’d be cheap up there.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:21 PM
I’m tired of this black/white shit.
Why you gotta bring cum* into this?
December 7th, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Peter Weller
December 7th, 2012 at 11:26 PM
Sadly, Dennis Archer ain’t coming back.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:28 PM
DAVE BING IS YOUR FUCKING MAYOR?
December 7th, 2012 at 11:31 PM
December 7th, 2012 at 11:35 PM
Dave Bing is a fucking joke.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Except for that 10¢ deposit for bottles and cans. Illinois doesn’t have much going for it, but it does have the cheapest beer and booze prices of any state I’ve been in.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:42 PM
If I recall correctly, he didn’t even carry the black votes. What white residents that were left got him elected. I have a picture of him, me, Wayne Fontes, and Tim Allen at the Grand Prix sometime in the mid-90′s
December 7th, 2012 at 11:45 PM
I’ll make that my gravatar.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:46 PM
Two pluses with the deposit:
1. No bottle/can litter on the roads
2. Various youth sports/activity organizations don’t go door-to-door trying to sell you shit. They just ask for the empties you’re storing in the garage to refund for $$$.
December 7th, 2012 at 11:48 PM
Wayne was drunk* and bear-hugging everyone. Home Improvement was at it’s peak and Allen was a prick as a result.
* = Probably high
December 7th, 2012 at 11:51 PM
The ole’ Uncle Tom phenomenon. Let’s vilify our people who decide not to define themselves by falsely acting how a black is supposed to!
December 7th, 2012 at 11:54 PM
Just realized Wayne Fontes is the Lions win leader with 67 and a sub .500 record…ahahahahaha
December 8th, 2012 at 3:25 AM
haha, check out the brady headline i found after having to get up to walk the dog. at foxsports:
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December 8th, 2012 at 4:20 AM
Oi slags, relax. Cunts.
/fiona apple
December 8th, 2012 at 4:28 AM
Think i sprained my ankle hopping a 3 ft (meth cunts) fence
December 8th, 2012 at 4:47 AM
rub some booze on it