The Saddest Philip Rivers Stat Ever

All, NFL, Stats Jason McIntyre December 5th. 2012, 12:38pm

Philip Rivers has been trending downward for the last few years, and this chart from Cold Hard Football Facts about his ineptitude in the 4th quarter summarizes just how far the QB has fallen:

So Philip Rivers is no longer clutch. [Cold Hard Football Facts]

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109 Responses to “The Saddest Philip Rivers Stat Ever”

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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
I’m keeping my expectations low. But the NHL discussions are making progress! We could have a 56-60 game season starting in late December!
/season will be canceled by the end of the week
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ms621 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Can we agree to stop using words like ‘clutch’ unless we are talking cars.
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Triston27 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
So Philip Rivers is no longer clutch.
Going 14-18 tells me he probably wasn’t all that clutch to begin with.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Can we agree to stop using words like ‘clutch’ unless we are talking cars.
Or shitty bands.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Rip dave brubeck
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Clayton Cargill Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
That is brutal. I mean, you knew this from watching, because the way the games are aired, everybody always ends up with one game left, and it’s PhilDO with a chance to win or blow it, and he always blows it.
But that’s now quantifiably awful.
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s1rweeze Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Can we agree to stop using words like ‘clutch’ unless we are talking cars.
Or Clutch Cargo.
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Jason McIntyre Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Can we agree to stop using words like ‘clutch’ unless we are talking cars.
you can. I’ll continue to use clutch.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
I’m keeping my expectations low. But the NHL discussions are making progress!
Ron Burkle, billionaire, union activist, democrat, legend, scourge of MikeNYC’s existence.
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Jason McIntyre Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
17 turnovers in 20 games in the clutch.
that’s not clutch.
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AssaultWithAConcreteDildo Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Still remember that one time when Rivers taunted the crowd at RCA. Guess he knew he had to get it in while he still could.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Clutch is a thing
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Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
So Philip Rivers is no longer clutch
I love to know what you can doi to become clutch/unclutch? Are you allowed to alternate between the two on a game to game basis or is it season to season thing? Was rivers clutch in the 2 wins, but not clutch in the 18 losses? How does it work?
/wanking
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s1rweeze Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Hmmm, Tomlinson left after 2009. Gates and Vincent Jackson missed huge chunks of time 09-10.
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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Apparently, Bettman had till Dec 1st to break the players. Now the owners want a deal so they can get all their money from the sponsors still.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Spinner and paddlefoot!
/ray rayner was my gateway
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St. Bear Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Going 14-18 tells me he probably wasn’t all that clutch to begin with
Exactly what I was going to say. I don’t think people ever thought he was “clutch”. He just had a lot of potential.
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s1rweeze Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
LL Cool J does not approve of this post.
/PHILIP RIVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS
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GloriousMullet Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Can someone run the numbers on Sanchize for 2010-12 and see who is worse?
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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Rivers needs a change of scenery.
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sousedbergin Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Rivers gets $15 this year and $17 next.
Compare that to the 2011 drat you could have:
Trent Richardson $3.8
Chandler Jones $1.4
RG3 $4
Matt Kalil $3.5
T.Y Hilton $500,000
Mark Barron $2.5
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scripty Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
I think that’s 14 of 18, right? Not 14w and 18L.
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
what happened to this guy? you gotta wonder if everything is alright at home.
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Triston27 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
I think that’s 14 of 18, right? Not 14w and 18L.
No. One column left shows 32 games/possibilities.
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St. Bear Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Rivers gets $15 this year and $17 next.
Compare that to the 2011 drat you could have:
Trent Richardson $3.8
Chandler Jones $1.4
RG3 $4
Matt Kalil $3.5
T.Y Hilton $500,000
Mark Barron $2.5
Kind of unfair since those are pretty much all rookie contracts, and not based on the market.
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ButtersBC Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Skip Bayless is a big believer in clutch, people should remember that before believing that’s a thing and talking out loud about it
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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Rivers gets $15 this year and $17 next.
Stafford makes 20.3 next year and 19.3 the year after.
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ButtersBC Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Maybe the offseason shoulder surgery Stafford will indoubtedly have will get him back on track…there’s no reason other than health for a guy to throw primarily sidearm like he does
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johndewar Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Rivers needs a change of scenery.
Maybe. I doubt he’ll be any less annoying to watch, however.
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St. Bear Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Rivers gets $15 this year and $17 next.
Stafford makes 20.3 next year and 19.3 the year after.
Tom Brady makes $950k* this year and $9.75 million** the next two years.
*plus a $10.8 million signing bonus
**plus a $5 million roster bonus each year
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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
there’s no reason other than health for a guy to throw primarily sidearm like he does
OK, he does that maybe 5 or 6 times a game out of the 50+ time he throws. It actually worked pretty well last game.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
17 turnovers in 20 games in the clutch.
that’s not clutch.
This post makes me wanna cry. Saw this trend unfold with my own eyes, but when it’s in print…
J-Mac, you know my pain, man. We can’t even trade Rivers for Sanchez. We may have the two worst QBs in the league.
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Scalia Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Can we agree to stop using words like ‘clutch’ unless we are talking cars.
Completely agree. Absolutely hate it
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scripty Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
He’s a whiny bitch.
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kazzythekid Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Stafford makes 20.3 next year and 19.3 the year after.
Suh makes over $17 those same 2 years.
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sousedbergin Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Or:
Alfred Morris $421,000
T.y Hilton $500,000
Russell Wilson $500,000
Ron Brooks $500,000
Casey Hayward $600,000
Josh Gordon $900,000
Janoris Jenkens $900,000
Vontaze Burfict $320,000
Doug Martin $1.2
Matt Kalil $3.5
And ongoing….
You could field a fucking awesome team for $15 yearly.
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Jim Harbaugh Scramble Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Stafford and Suh were #1 and #2 picks in the era of huge rookie contracts, no shit they make buku bucks.
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Scalia Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Skip Bayless is a big believer in clutch, people should remember that before believing that’s a thing and talking out loud about it
At some point I heard him call it a “clutch gene” as if it was something that a magical fairy grants certain people with
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ButtersBC Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Suh makes over $17 those same 2 years.
Add in to that Calvin Johnson’s extension and you have the recipe for a franchise that will be lucky to return to the salad days of Wayne Fontes trying to scrape 9-7 seasons together
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VladimirCrouton Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Stafford and Suh were #1 and #2 picks in the era of huge rookie contracts, no shit they make buku bucks.
Stafford needs to sign a new team friendly deal and Suh needs to play lights out the rest of the year so the Lions can get some 2nd and 3rd round picks for him.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Its a thing. Performing well in the most important moments/games. Thats ny definition. I give a fuck what bayless says
/and i mean that in the nicest way possible
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sousedbergin Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Tom Brady makes $950k* this year and $9.75 million** the next two years.
Numbers are against the cap, I know the rookie contracts are different that’s the point. One of the best draft classes ever also happens to be one of the cheapest.
/cheers again to Kazzy I am obsessed with the site http://www.spotrac.com
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Tim Ryan Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Tom Brady makes $950k* this year and $9.75 million** the next two years.
Kewl.
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sousedbergin Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Post idea, instead of some shitty ratings nonsense take Lions, Rams, Chiefs, Miami first round pick contracts and build teams out of that cap in Madden and simulate the teams against each other. Loser has to take Lisk’s kids camping.
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Scalia Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:18 PM
you can. I’ll continue to use clutch.
E.g. Mark Sanchez: 2 straight AFC championship games with 4 playoff road wins…clutch!
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:19 PM
At some point I heard him call it a “clutch gene” as if it was something that a magical fairy grants certain people with
Hitler had it, Walt Disney had it, and Freddy Quimby has it.
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kazzythekid Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:20 PM
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
i never understood why people hated the term clutch…there are situations that are fairly crucial to a good outcome at various points in a game, are there not?
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ou812jay8 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
I’m curious to see how Eli and Big Ben compare over the same timeframe in these “clutch” situations. As the years go on, the Giants-Chargers trade is looking better and better for NY.
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Clayton Cargill Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
i never understood why people hated the term clutch…there are situations that are fairly crucial to a good outcome at various points in a game, are there not?
the one I hate the most is when people say that first quarter points are worth just as much as fourth quarter points, especially when they’re talking about pro basketball.
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kazzythekid Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
was trying to take an internet whiskey shot with soused in that last comment, but looks like I spilled it instead.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:26 PM
the one I hate the most is when people say that first quarter points are worth just as much as fourth quarter points, especially when they’re talking about pro basketball.
another good oen.
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Badger Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:26 PM
i never understood why people hated the term clutch…there are situations that are fairly crucial to a good outcome at various points in a game, are there not?
They don’t have a problem with its use “in the moment”. Using it as a predictive stat is when the queasiness starts.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
i never understood why people hated the term clutch…there are situations that are fairly crucial to a good outcome at various points in a game, are there not?
The overall story, however, is that LeBron shoots the ball a lot in clutch situations and does so right around his career average rate. When he misses, it’s as random as a second-quarter jumper that fails to go down or a no-call on a drive down the lane in the middle of a blow out. There’s no larger pattern there, simply circumstance and luck.
That’s simply my belief, though, and I have been wrong many, many times. Maybe there’s a reason for the things that happen in a close game beyond the offense, defenses, coaching and random bounces of a ball. Maybe the variance in LeBron’s play comes from somewhere else and being clutch (or a choker) really is a thing. Perhaps I’m wrong and LeBron’s misses in big moments aren’t merely random but are instead part of bigger failings in his nature as a human being and as a basketball player. Perhaps some players step up and others shrink when the lights are brightest.
Even if that were the case, I’d still take issue with using the word clutch on a basic level, because it’s lazy. It sells short the splendor. Assume that a â€œclutch geneâ€ exists and expresses itself through a â€œtoughness-and-heart-of-a-champion hormoneâ€ that’s secreted by the Michael Jordan gland in varying levels of different players’ bodies. To simply stop there is to discount the wonder of that expression and the virtuosity that unfolds. These are world class athletes doing a hundred different things better than anyone else on the planet. Some run offenses like conductors; others rain daggers from on high, tearing twine and hearts in twain. And still the unheralded gum of the works of the prior, taking pride in mischievously laying waste the best laid plans of coaches and isolation heroes.
Calling Kobe Bryant â€œa cold-blooded clutch killerâ€ is fun and alliterative, but it’s no comparison to pinpointing what that entails â€“ his ability to get inside a defender’s head and know how they’ll defend him and, by extension, his teammates; the infinite confidence to ignore mismatches or trust in his teammates as he sees fit; and the skill and acuity to often succeed against greatly stacked odds. We’ve all seen an opponent set the perfect trap for Kobe, only for it to end in another Lakers victory.
Conversely, saying LeBron James is a choker is the the low-hanging fruit of root problems. James has turned the ball over in big situations, and he’s disappeared down the stretch on several occasions. If LeBron really is a choker as so many want to say, especially in the big pictures, then those moments are truly spectacular and deserve more than a simple wave of the hand and derisive meme hastily applied. James’ career clutch performance is roughly equal to his performance out of the clutch; when things don’t fall in line, it’s worth taking a minute to stop and appreciate what that means and the rarity of the situation.
To believe in the concept of clutch is a fine idea, and admirable to me; just because I’m a cynic doesn’t mean I necessarily encourage you to be.
I do wish that you’ll consider using more than one word to describe these moments caught in time. It doesn’t do justice to the spectacle. When you lump in all the great and awful things that players do in clutch situations, you take away the unique facets of each one and diminish their impact and luster. A clutch performance and the players who create them is simply more fun when you remember them each individually instead of forcing them into a genre.
-Hardwood Paroxysm
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Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Spencer – Performances in crucial situations can certainly be described as clutch after the fact. This issue is assigning players as clutch as though it were some sort of quantifiable and tangible attribute that is repeatable. The author of the post seems to struggle with this.
So Philip Rivers is no longer clutch.
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kazzythekid Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:29 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/top-salaries/nfl/cap-hit/quarterback/
Top 10 for this season is very interesting, and missing some obvious big names.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:31 PM
mole…no doubt and i used many of those arguments to defend lebron back when i had a vested interest.
agreed on clutch as a descriptor of a player’s ability as in TBL’s hamfisted usage, but pressure does do some fucked up shit to people, and to dismiss repeated impressive performances in crucial moments like a fart is asinine in its own right.
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s1rweeze Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:34 PM
agreed on clutch as a descriptor of a player’s ability as in TBL’s hamfisted usage, but pressure does do some fucked up shit to people, and to dismiss repeated impressive performances in crucial moments like a fart is asinine in its own right.
They are professionals, so pressure does not apply to them.
/comment I remember seeing here in like 2008
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Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:40 PM
Spencer, the other thing, especially in football is there are so many other (often ignored) factors when clutch narratives are written.
Take Eli, who many will argue as “clutch”. He has definitely performed well in high pressure situations, but would he be any different if either a) Asante Samuel catches that INT (which was a terrible throw) on the game winning drive or b) the helmet catch is not made because of its incredible difficulty? Two things out of Eli’s control, had they gone the other way would would have changed the way he was viewed.
Same thing applies to Brady if Vinatieri miss any of those game winning FGs.
Just my 2 cents.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:43 PM
brawny…ive been thinkin of stuff like the eli thing you mentioned myself and think i may be coming at this from too much of a golf angle. agreed others’ performances can have an impact on BEING ABLE to perform in that clutch situation, but they still have to go out and take advantage of that opportunity presented.
in golf, it’s fairly obvious to delineate the chokers from the clutch since there arent any outside influences. i wouldnt call ian poulter a great golfer, but id DEFINITELY call him a clutch one.
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Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Personally, I put more stock in a players propensity to choke and buckle under pressure. I think that is more predictable because as you mentioned, pressure can do shit to people.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Pressure is no doubt a real thing obviously.
To quote Wikipedia, which is actually a great read on this argument:
Some athletes with alleged great focus and mental strength are notable for their clutch performances, even though their “regular season” (or the equivalent thereof) performance is equally good; for example, Tiger Woods in golf, Michael Jordan, Jerry West, Kobe Bryant, Reggie Miller, Dwyane Wade,Dirk Nowitzki, Manu Ginobili,Corey Park,Hakeem Olajuwon, Ray Allen, Tim Duncan and Larry Bird in basketball, Derek Jeter, David Ortiz, David Wright, and Reggie Jackson in baseball, Pete Sampras, Roger Federer (and, more recently Novak Djokovic, Rafael Nadal) in tennis; Werner Schlager in table-tennis; Pelé, Romario, Ronaldo, Diego Maradona, Shola Ameobi, Zinedine Zidane, Xavi, Samuel Eto’o and Didier Drogba in football (soccer), Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher in Formula 1, Jonny Wilkinson in rugby union, and have all been labeled “clutch” during their careers for performing at a high level in high pressure situations. Former NBA great Jerry West had such a high reputation as a clutch player that he was given the nickname, “Mr. Clutch.”
No coincidence that the most “clutch” players are just fucking outstanding players and are likely to be put in an important situation.
It’s basically just a lazy term used by people who only remember a few things and like to use specific instances to create a narrative.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Personally, I put more stock in a players propensity to choke and buckle under pressure.
so i think we’re in agreement that clutch is something impactful, but it’s impossible to quantify.
excellent.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
in golf, it’s fairly obvious to delineate the chokers from the clutch since there arent any outside influences. i wouldnt call ian poulter a great golfer, but id DEFINITELY call him a clutch one.
Andy North is then by definition a clutch golfer.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
but it’s impossible to quantify.
Baseball Between The Numbers would disagree with this wholeheartedly.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:49 PM
No coincidence that the most “clutch” players are just fucking outstanding players and are likely to be put in an important situation.
agreed…and why most “unclutch” players are outstanding players that put themselves/teams in positions to win and frequently come up short.
looks like we’re all in agreement that TBL is lazy and mobile site sexy ambulance craig james duffman.
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Nada Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
We may have the two worst QBs in the league.
SmallieBigs would like a word with you.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
Baseball Between The Numbers would disagree with this wholeheartedly.
ok then…i guess im just wrong.
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Nada Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
looks like we’re all in agreement that TBL is lazy and mobile site sexy ambulance craig james duffman
I am heartbroken that this did not end with “everybody walk the dinosaur.”
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
I think unclutch/choker is also used by people a lot to deflect from a lack of talent or other problems that are less catchy to address.
Like the English soccer team. They’re always labeled as chokers by the media instead of accepting the fact that they’re a mediocre team.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Andy North is then by definition a clutch golfer.
honestly, couldnt tell you because i never saw him play.
but ive seen poulter, the few times he does get in those positions, repeatedly rise to the occasion in WGC and ryder cup events. in the converse, ive seen two of my fav golfers, adam scott and sergio, repeatedly fail in those same types.
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Nada Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
i wouldnt call ian poulter a great golfer
You could have stopped right there.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
Like the English soccer team. They’re always labeled as chokers by the media instead of accepting the fact that they’re a mediocre team.
and same with those labeled as clutch…robert horry comes to mind since hed have been a liability playing 36 minutes.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
ok then…i guess im just wrong.
In some sports it’s difficult, but there they took “clutch” situations and looked at players numbers against their numbers in other situations – whether you delivered a “clutch” hit or not.
Big Shot Bob’s career regular season 3pt average is .341. It’s 3.59 in the playoffs. Is that such a huge difference to discard his regular season performances?
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
honestly, couldnt tell you because i never saw him play.
Me either obviously but I mean in that two of his three wins are majors.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Two things out of Eli’s control, had they gone the other way would would have changed the way he was viewed.
Same thing applies to Brady if Vinatieri miss any of those game winning FGs.
Just my 2 cents.
yes, if vinatieri misses he was not clutch at that time. if he has a history of say 90 percent accuracy for kicks that tie or win a game, you could call him a clutch kicker. but vinatieri’s effort has nothing to do with brady. if brady made some great plays to get his kicker into fg range, then brady was clutch
as for manning, if a receiver makes incredible catches to bail him out, it should be remembered that way. manning was not clutch, the wr was. clutch to me: big rapey’s throw to whatsisname to beat the cards. the catch was clutch too
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Whoa there misplaced decimal!
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Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Also, what about a clutch QB* who throws a clutch pass to an unclutch WR** who runs an unclutch route leaving the clutch pass to be intercepted by a clutch DB*** who scores a clutch TD?
*Peyton
**Wayne
***Porter
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HtownHacker Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
I know the sabermetricians debunk the concept of clutchness, and I’m not one to argue with numbers. But I have to think in golf it (call it controlling your nerves if you wish) really does exist. I just can’t see every person handling their nerves equally on that 5 foot putt to win on 18.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Same thing applies to Brady if Vinatieri miss any of those game winning FGs.
Vinatieri doesn’t even have a chance to be “clutch” if John Kasay doesn’t kick the goddamn kickoff out of bounds (in a Super Bowl where he drilled a fifty yard field goal, which most would label a “clutch” performance).
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HtownHacker Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Andy North only one one other tournament in addition to his U.S. Opens???? I did not know that.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
Also, what about a clutch QB* who throws a clutch pass to an unclutch WR** who runs an unclutch route leaving the clutch pass to be intercepted by a clutch DB*** who scores a clutch TD?
*Peyton
**Wayne
***Porter
What about the clutch weather pattern in the Mid-Atlantic that formed a giant hurricane that decimated a major city and caused the NFL to give a clutch amount of money to said clutch QB to throw the game?
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Me either obviously but I mean in that two of his three wins are majors.
i hear ya…tho, from what i can gather anecdotally, those were two of the worst us opens of vintage.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
(call it controlling your nerves if you wish)
That exists everywhere, and I agree.
Look at the first few minutes of most Final Four or NCGs in college basketball, they’re usually awful one way or another until the nerves settle. I think it’s a bit lesser of an issue in the NBA, because the players are more seasoned.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Vinatieri doesn’t even have a chance to be “clutch” if John Kasay doesn’t kick the goddamn kickoff out of bounds (in a Super Bowl where he drilled a fifty yard field goal, which most would label a “clutch” performance).
that blows for panthers fans, but vinatieri is only clutch with what he gets to work with. and a 50-yard fg in the second quarter is not clutch. to me clutch is tying or winning efforts
sometimes a series of efforts, like the old reliever (el duque?) for the wsox who struck out the side against boston in the 2005 ALCS in a 1-run game. one of the best pressure performances i’ve seen
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Look at the first few minutes of most Final Four or NCGs in college basketball, they’re usually awful one way or another until the nerves settle. I think it’s a bit lesser of an issue in the NBA, because the players are more seasoned.
you see this in CFB too…takes a couple drives to settle in and let the adrenaline rush fade a bit.
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ms621 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
I started a discussion as I was leaving for lunch. How clutch of me.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Also, what about a clutch QB* who throws a clutch pass to an unclutch WR** who runs an unclutch route leaving the clutch pass to be intercepted by a clutch DB*** who scores a clutch TD?
*Peyton
**Wayne
***Porter
very thing-y
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
sometimes a series of efforts, like the old reliever (el duque?) for the wsox who struck out the side against boston in the 2005 ALCS in a 1-run game. one of the best pressure performances i’ve seen
Geoff Blum in the WS was probably the most “clutch” labeled moment of that year.
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dontnomuch Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Also from wikipedia:
A clutch is a mechanical device that provides for the transmission of power (and therefore usually motion) from one component (the driving member) to another (the driven member) when engaged, but can be disengaged.
Based on that, Phillip Rivers has always been overrated.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
you see this in CFB too
dressage too
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:08 PM
Also from wikipedia:
A clutch is a mechanical device that provides for the transmission of power (and therefore usually motion) from one component (the driving member) to another (the driven member) when engaged, but can be disengaged.
Based on that, Phillip Rivers has always been overrated.
Outstanding.
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Keith Stone Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:09 PM
Rivers, Cassel and Sanchez are the absolute worst QB’s in the league. They are turnover machines. I have never seen people fumble the ball so many times after getting hit.
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GloriousMullet Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Our most clutch commenter? ddmcd1974
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ms621 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Geoff Blum in the WS was probably the most “clutch” labeled moment of that year.
Scott Podsednik.
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ms621 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Our most clutch commenter? ddmcd1974
It used to be Paolo.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:13 PM
Geoff Blum in the WS was probably the most “clutch” labeled moment of that year.
gw hr right?
i suppose clutch could be used in prevention situations as well, like a td-saving tackle (especially with today’s crap tackling) or el duque’s situation. for instance, if blum doesn;t hit that, the sox don;t lose, so no disaster. but if you are losing by a run and down to the last strike and hit a 2-run hr you are clutch and the pitcher is brad lidge
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dontnomuch Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Tom Brady is dual clutch.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
Scott Podsednik.
Clutch pitching from Astros relievers in that series. Give up two game winning home runs to two guys with a combined one home run during the entire season prior.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
gw hr right?
Yeah the 14 inning game.
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roastbeast Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
I have never seen people fumble the ball so many times after running into a giant ass
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PeerLessPrices Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
takes a couple drives to settle in
Saw this and first thought you were talking golf. I can not for the life of me hit a drive squarely down the middle consistently. Who can, i know, wanking. But it is Russian Roullette with me. I am, however, striking my irons better than I ever have in my life and I feel like a boss (high fives CRM)
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ms621 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Clutch pitching from Astros relievers in that series. Give up two game winning home runs to two guys with a combined one home run during the entire season prior.
Yeah, thanks for reminding me. Well we’ll have another shot at the World Series in, [looks at Jeff Luhnow's timeline] anywhere from 4-20 years.
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spencer096 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:19 PM
Saw this and first thought you were talking golf. I can not for the life of me hit a drive squarely down the middle consistently.
cant really help without seeing your swing but…practice it a lot. make it a weapon.
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PeerLessPrices Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:21 PM
practice it a lot
Well, tooting my horn, but I’ve got a good smooth swing. I will do it on driving range at times. The pressure on the tee box probably gets to me. So I guess I’m unclutch
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Keith Stone Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
I have never seen people fumble the ball so many times after running into a giant ass
Sanchez will get with Nicki Minaj next to practice holding onto the ball.
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knifeyspoony Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:29 PM
Rivers, Cassel and Sanchez are the absolute worst QB’s in the league.
that’s why I doubt Rivers is magically un-clutch. he’s been pretty shitty overall the last two seasons, not just in game-winning or game-tying situations.
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Moofasa Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 2:54 PM
Chargers Oline isn’t much help either but can u say new coach new GM new QB oh by the way chargers scouts there’s this kid out of Union County HS in South Carolina his names Keiston Smith the SC varsity hs fb player of the year a QB with 60 td’s and 5000 plus yds who can run, 20 of his td’s were rushing td’s who could replace Rivers and that baby RB Matthews….come on man!
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Smail.9 Says:
December 5th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
When do qbs become clutch? I think Rodgers was 0-9 in 3 point games at one point. Now a Super Bowl champ

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