NFL Post Game Handshakes, Week 12: Brady Quinn Steps In to Lift Chiefs, Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson Win the Day, While Steelers and Bengals Head Toward Showdown
This week’s Post-Game Handshakes turn into a hug for the Chiefs coaches and players who had to go out and play a football game a day after a teammate had committed an unthinkable act, killing his girlfriend and then shooting himself. Yesterday, I went out to Arrowhead before the game and walked among the crowds in the parking lot. For the players who were waiting to play inside, though, it was a far different feel.
Brady Quinn and the Jovan Belcher situation: Brady Quinn played one of the finest games of his career, and then provided some perspective in the aftermath of the Jovan Belcher nightmare.
“What could I have done different. When you ask someone how their doing, do you really mean it? When answer someone back ‘how are you doing’ are you telling the truth? We live in a society of social networks, of Twitter pages, of Facebook. That’s fine and stuff, but we have contact with our work associates, our family, our friends, and it seems like half the time we are more pre-occupied with our phone and other things going on instead of the actual issues in front of us. Hopefully, people can learn from this and try to actually figure out if somebody is battling something deeper on the inside, than what they may be revealing on a day-to day basis.”
Jim Washburn fired as defensive line coach, had reportedly become a cancer: This week’s firing in Philadelphia goes to defensive line coach Jim Washburn, who was not happy with last week’s move of releasing Jason Babin. At this rate, no one will be left when Andy Reid is finally let go at the end of the season. This is a terminal case.
Adrian Peterson Continues to Pull Away From the Field: Simply unbelievable, and we are witnessing one of the best ever. Adrian Peterson had an 82 yard touchdown run yesterday, and finished the day with 210 rushing yards in a losing effort.
The last running back to go over 200 yards and have his team lose was Thomas Jones in 2009. That was a game against Buffalo where Mark Sanchez threw 5 interceptions. I do look forward to seeing which team will rest starters late this year allowing the Vikings come back from the dead and get in the postseason, and then unexpectedly reach the conference title game.
Andrew Luck and Russell Wilson Continue to Amaze, Robert Griffin III’s move tonight: Andrew Luck brought the Colts back again for his fifth comeback drive of his young career in the fourth quarter. It was an uneven day for Luck, as his three interceptions appeared to have sunk the Colts. He also has the entire offense on him and is continually asked to make plays. He has already thrown 503 pass attempts. He’s going to shatter the attempts and yards mark for a rookie. He threw a strike for the first touchdown to start the comeback, then led a great drive with poise to win it.
Russell Wilson, meanwhile, is paying off the decision to start him and then some. Through the first four games, the decision looked questionable to go with the rookie over the veteran Matt Flynn. Wilson was only averaging 5.9 yards per attempt, the team started 2-2 including the controversial win over Green Bay, and the offense was averaging 17.5 points.
Over the last eight games, Wilson is simply putting up pro bowl caliber numbers. Completing 65% of his passes, averaging 8.1 yards per attempt, and throwing 15 touchdown passes to 4 interceptions. The Seahawks have scored more than 20 points in five straight games, and the San Francisco 49ers are not out of reach as we head to the final quarter of the season.
The Jets Quarterback Situation is Better than Arizona’s: Always look on the bright side of life, I say. This should be an exhilarating week as we look forward to Mark Sanchez vs. Greg McElroy talk, with Skip Bayless getting to bang that Tebow drum that has been hiding behind his chair.
As bad as New York’s situation is, though, it has nothing on Arizona. Ryan Lindley is now averaging 4.3 yards per pass attempt with no touchdown passes and five interceptions. Yes, he is worse than John Skelton. How bad is it? Lindley is in immortal Kim McQuilken territory. He is putting up Spergon Wynn numbers except Wynn actually threw a touchdown pass. Kevin Kolb could be back this week, and my goodness, would we have ever thought he would be this valuable? Arizona is a horrific mess right now. No team has ever started 4-0 and then lost 8 straight.
In the NFC, everyone now hoping Seattle loses at home: How big was the Seattle win at Chicago? Well, it not only swung the NFC North race, putting the Packers back in the lead, but it kept Seattle one game ahead of several challengers. The Seahawks now have three home games remaining, against all of their division rivals, and a road game at Buffalo. Win 3 out of 4, and Seattle is almost certainly in, already holding the head to head tiebreaker over Dallas and Minnesota. Win two? They are still in pretty good tiebreaker shape, especially if the two are conference games.
Tampa Bay, Dallas, and Minnesota are now in must win mode. New Orleans has an extremely small chance if they win out. Honestly, the team in the best situation to rally might be St. Louis, because they still have a head to head matchup at Seattle to directly impact the race in week 17, and also get a chance against Tampa Bay and Minnesota. They would have to go 3-0 over the next three weeks to get there, though.
Bob Costas’ Gun Rant? Didn’t hear it. Halftime of Sunday Night Football is for bath time and bed time routines, and certainly not for hearing Bob Costas talk.
It’s down to 2 of 3 of Colts, Steelers and Bengals in the AFC: The Colts, Bengals, and Steelers all came from behind to win in the fourth quarter yesterday. The effect of those results is to make the AFC a three team race for two spots. The networks will put up those “In the Hunt” graphics listing other teams mathematically alive. Forget about that.
Houston, New England and Denver are officially in. Baltimore is not in yet, and has a tough schedule. However, the only way they don’t make it is by losing out, and even then, they will probably be in better “conference record” standing if either Pittsburgh or Cincinnati finishes tied at 9-7 with them. The loser of the Pittsburgh/Cincinnati week 16 game would basically have to win every other game to oust the Ravens.
For Indianapolis, it is two wins and in, because they would own the tiebreaker if both Pittsburgh and Cincinnati got to 10 wins, as one would have that sixth conference loss. That could be home against Tennessee and at Kansas City, or it could include a victory over Houston. If they only get to 9 wins, the tiebreaker situation would be messy and as yet undetermined.
The Pittsburgh and Cincinnati game in week 16 obviously looms large for both those teams and may be an elimination game by the time it comes around.
FOURTH AND ONE LOG:
This week’s fourth and one decisions actually provide a few data points in favor of playing it safe. The Bears missed a conversion early, as did the Cardinals. Still, Crennel’s aggressiveness on a tough day won the game, and going for it is still way in the lead in 2012.
1. The Bears went on 4th and 1 at Seattle 15 at the start of 2nd quarter, Michael Bush was stuffed. Chicago eventually lost in overtime. This is one of the clear hindsight losers this year. Food for thought, though. Does Chicago heave a ball downfield for Marshall if Seattle had tied it with 32 seconds left, rather than take a 3 point lead?
2. Romeo Crennel brought aggressiveness to the game. After Hillis was stopped on 3rd and goal, he called timeout with 2 seconds left, ball at the 1, and went for it at the end of half trailing 14-10. Quinn completed a touchdown pass to Tony Moeaki. In the third quarter, the Chiefs went again at the Carolina 27, Hillis converted, and again at the Carolina 13, and converted. The Chiefs scored a touchdown to take a 24-14 lead and won 27-21.
3. Trailing 17-10, Miami punted from the NE 49. It was downed at the 2. The teams exchanged punts before the Patriots went on a drive to take a 20-10 lead. At the NE 22 in the fourth quarter, Miami went, converted, but eventually settled for a field goal after a Tannehill sack.
4. After a Sanchez interception, Arizona went at the NYJ 17, and Beanie Wells was stuffed for a loss. the Cardinals lost 7-6.
5. On the opening drive, the Rams punted from their own 48. In the third quarter, the Rams went at the SF4, and threw incomplete, but got the safety four plays later. The final play of the game was a 4th and 1 from the SF37, and Zuerlein made the game winning 54 yard field goal that prevented the second tie between the Rams and 49ers.
6. With just under 5 minutes left in the game, Cleveland went at the OAK 45, up 13-10, and Weeden converted on the sneak. The Browns scored a touchdown a minute and a half later, to take a 20-10 lead. The Raiders converted a 4th and 1 on their final drive resulting in a last second touchdown.
7. Cincinnati kicked a field goal on fourth and goal to tie it at 10-10. The Bengals eventually won 20-13.
8. On 4th and 1 at the PHI 39, trailing 24-17 at the end of the third quarter, Dallas went. Murray was initially ruled short, but it was overturned on review. Dallas scored a touchdown three plays later to tie it, and eventually won 38-33.
[photo via USA Today Sports Images]
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December 3rd, 2012 at 12:42 PM
i like it when athletes are thoughtful and well-spoken
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Former Eagles defensive line coach Jim Washburn kinda sounds like a dick in this article.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Took a while for people to realize that Suh is a piece of shit because he was so “well-spoken”
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Was hilarious seeing Chicago lose to Seattle. So Chicago has one win the entire season against a winning team (who has one win against a winning team). Is there some kind of NFL RPI equivalent that shows how dogshit they are?
Thoughts SC?
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:46 PM
The Lions excel at finishing games.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:46 PM
needs more hammering of the Lions for blowing that game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Andy Reid should not punt the rest of the year. I would watch Jets v Jags if both teams agreed not to punt the entire game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Washburn has always been a mouthy cock. I’m not shocked that he was an asshole. What amazes me more is how you can allow a guy to act like this towards his coworker, the D.C and then fire the D.C first.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:48 PM
You forgot to mention the Classic Raiders “Jump offside on 3rd and 1 ” to give them the first down on that final drive. It was as glorious as it was expected.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Nice clutch punt Nick.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 PM
When do I get to vote the Niners out of the power poll? Can I cast that vote here? Fucking assholes.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Minnesota is in irrelevant mode. At least next year’s draft kinda sucks. Maybe a decent player will slide to 14-16.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Has there ever been a great football coach that treated others like decent human beings?
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:49 PM
Chicago 8th.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 PM
I can’t believe that right in the middle of his press conference, Brady Quinn said “cum on my face.” –Tim Ryan
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:50 PM
My guess is that he used Castillo, horribly miscast as a DC to begin with, as a sacrificial lamb, hoping that Washburn would fall in line behind a guy like Bowles. Clearly, that didn’t happen.
Reid pretty much botched that whole thing up from the beginning.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:51 PM
He’s awful. as is Stefon logan. besides Jason, special teams is a flaming turd.
Wayne Fontes.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM
When American suicide rate was at its highest from 1950 to 1980 (13.2% per 100,000) the following things were mentioned as factors:
Radio
Birth Control
Video games
Kiss
Gay people
VCR
Tape Cassettes
Cordless Phone
/Merely the wanking of a wanker
//Get the fuck out with this ‘thoughtful’ nonsense
///Meaningless cliches
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Bill Walsh
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Is there some kind of NFL RPI equivalent that shows how dogshit they are? Football Outsiders system thinks Chicago are 5th best team based on their metrics as of last week.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Are you guys still believing in Ponder long term? Seems like a weak link to me as a casual observer/basically a pro-scout.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM
If only two are tied common games actually comes before conference record.
Ravens are in, even if its only for 1 game. Would have been nice if SD could have taken care of Cincy yesterday, but you know, Phillip Rivers.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Knew you’d have it. Losing to the four good teams you play will inflate that strength of schedule. 37-58-1 the record of the teams they’ve beaten. Solid!
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM
and the Vikings will completely miss it. we’ve all read this story before.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:53 PM
That puff piece pre-game was pretty soft and answered really nothing
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM
to be fair if I was forced to listen to Kiss I would probably want to kill myself too
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM
GOOD LORD
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM
yeah, good one. It just seems like most of these guys act like they are in the CIA and anyone who doesn’t bow down to their demands is a KGB agent.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Thoughtful. Not well-researched.
Or drunk and smelly
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Jesus where was that lifted from.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:55 PM
“Hey Billy you Facebook status says ‘YOLO Bitches’ but how are you really doing?”
- “Not good, I was going to commit heinous crimes but now that you’ve asked I going to go plant a tree and volunteer my time”
“I’m glad we had this talk Billy”
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:55 PM
I’m guessing this is tongue in cheek, but if the Vikings are in a win and in scenario, I don’t see McCarthy resting starters. Division opponent is just about the last thing Green Bay would want to see in the playoffs. And while there probably isn’t a strong relationship between their performance against the Giants last year and the decision to sit key players, that will probably be in the back of their minds come week 17.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:55 PM
C’mon, you didn’t cheer when he took it out of the endzone multiple times only to reach near the 15 yard line? Mike Thomas is horrible too. Drop more passes. Can’t wait for Mayhew to draft a WR in the 3rd round.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:55 PM
He’s definitely finishing out the year as the starter. I don’t know WTF happened to him. His accuracy’s gone to shit and he’s trying to force stuff to guys like Michael Jenkins and Jerome Simpson. There aren’t jack for QBs in the draft next year, so maybe they sign someone? No idea.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Maybe KC can keep riding this murder/suicide high all the way to the Raiders #1 pick.
We all know Chad Henne’s going to be just good enough to keep them out of the #1 slot. It’s his destiny.
/Play Pryor
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:56 PM
I read a study about suicide and the time a person decides to kill themselves and the act of suicide. Now the flaw in the study is they can only interview people who attempted and failed, but a surprising amount answered the decision to kill themselves and the attempt was within 5 minutes. Having a gun available makes success on that thought much more likely as opposed to other methods.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Because they don’t have any intelligence to back up their bullshit. Walsh didn’t have to resort to that. He was smarter than everyone else and his players knew it. See also: Belichick
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
The same Bears team that lost to every good team they faced?
They’re a fucking joke. Been fraudulent all year and it finally bit them in the ass. At home, against a division rival starting an ancient QB, with a chance to go up four games in the North, and they find a way to lose despite forcing three turnovers.
Wonder how many touches Ray Rice had? Oh, 13? None in the fourth quarter with the Ravens winning by a TD? Huh that’s weird Cam Cameron. At least you’re consistently awful during your tenure in Baltimore.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Me?
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Football Outsiders system thinks Chicago are 5th best team based on their metrics as of last week.
GOOD LORD
They love the Defense and Special Teams, having them ranked 1 and 3 the offense is ranked 26th
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
No.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Did he think Pioli should have been strapped? (that’s as gangsta as I can get JMac…if another word sounds more street, let me know)
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Fuck yes. Just run option with Pryor, DMC and Taiwan Jones. TP mix in some deep throws to the Raiders speedy WR’s. Hell when shit breaks down he can just run.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
How many touches should a 6th round pick get?
/TBL draft math
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
The Texans had about as underwhelming a 24-10 win as is possible yesterday. Defense is getting shredded by injuries and it’s starting to show.
December 3rd, 2012 at 12:59 PM
That makes some sense. The more you think about the idea of ending your life, the more it can seem like a bad idea.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Not a chance.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
I don’t mean this to take away from Luck. If anything it’s a positive, that he’s done as well for the team, in consideration of the flaws…
Luck is still just 29th in passer rating, behind Gabbert/Stafford/Ponder/Palmer/Hasselback, and has taken the 8th-most sacks in the league. He still has a lot (obviously, as a rookie) he can do to improve. And since now the Colts (unlike the Browns with Quinn/Weeden/McCoy, and I’m sure other teams), don’t have to use any more 1st-3rd round picks on QBs to correct prior misses, they should be able to build around him pretty well.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Kevin Kolb could be back this week,
he had ribs dislocated from his sternum. So hopefully that stalwart Oline can keep him upright.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 PM
go browns.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 PM
They’re fine. They’ve got the top seed essentially locked up for the entire playoffs and will walk to the Super Bowl at home.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 PM
So keep the gun away from your wife I guess.
/rodney’d
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 PM
So where does Alex Smith end up next year?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 PM
and a road game at Buffalo.
this got pointed out to me, so i”ll point it out to you. They play Buffalo in Toronto.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 PM
I have a horrific stat comparison…
Quarterback A: 22 starts, 59% comp, 4158 yds, 27 TD, 24 INT, 6.2 YPA
Quarterback B: 20 starts, 58.7% comp, 3984 yds, 24 TD, 22 INT, 6.6 YPA
QB A is Christian Ponder. QB B? You guessed it. Tarvaris Jackson.
/vomits profusely
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
If you want to be depressed for 2 hours go watch the documentary on people jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0799954/ Really sad.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Tbf everyone looks like a weak link next to purple jesus
/ponders banging steele and sorta rich so small victories
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Green Bay needed two redzone ints to the beat the Vikings as well as a bullshit roughing the passer call to negate a Vikings int in GB territory. Defensive injuries have caught up to them as well.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
They’re fine. They’ve got the top seed essentially locked up for the entire playoffs and will walk to the Super Bowl at home.
I don’t care so much about the regular season at this point, I’m more worried about how the wear and tear on defense will affect the team’s prospects in the playoffs.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Minnesota.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Bob Costas’ Gun Rant? Didn’t hear it. Halftime of Sunday Night Football is for bath time and bed time routines, and certainly not for hearing Bob Costas talk.
I didn’t hear it either, I was watching zombies. But if I close my eyes and imagine, I can hear that tiny man looking down on us all.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 PM
This will be horrific. And end badly. So I support it fully.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 PM
New York.
/please be New York
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 PM
We should make all guns in this country illegal, so that only murderers like Jovan Belcher can possess them (illegally).
Then we’ll be safe.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
/dying
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
They controlled that game from start to finish. Foster is really struggling this year. He’s so patient, and that has worked well in the past. Forsett has just been hitting the holes fast and has been a lot more effective.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
They’ll get in the tournament more than likely but there’s two teams I would say they have almost no shot of beating once they get there. The 49ers (especially if Alex Smith gets his job back, which is unlikely I would think) and the Packers.
The NFC is really tough to figure out. Every playoff team, save for Atlanta, has a bad loss (NYG v CIN/DAL, GB v IND/NYG, CHI v. SEA, SEA v. DET/AZ/MIA, SF v. NYG). Chicago lacks a statement win, and before yesterday, you could say the same about Seattle.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
We have the right to bear arms! As a Republican I must stand up for the Consitution… unless it’s for separation of church and state, in which case, fuck you.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Luck is still just 29th in passer rating, behind Gabbert/Stafford/Ponder/Palmer/Hasselback, and has taken the 8th-most sacks in the league.
This shows flaws in passer rating. Also, above average sack rate, meaning he’s good at avoiding him. Doubly so when you consider his scrambles are sacks avoided. He drops back a lot. Colts near average in points per drive, and its not because of their running backs.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Damn that’s a good stats post.
As a Ravens fan, I feel you. I don’t even care if they make it or not because they can’t go to the Super Bowl if they have to play on the road.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 PM
“By December 1988, while a judge at a film festival in Val d’Isère, he was extremely intoxicated at a local theatre where he was to do a presentation. While on stage he began to tell an obscene story about Brigitte Bardot and a champagne bottle, only to stagger offstage and collapse in a nearby seat.”
/Serge Gainsbourg doesn’t fuck around
//Wikipedia hole
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Definitely agree on that point. Would be shocked if Smith doesn’t see the field in the playoffs.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Broncos fans everywhere cheer this.
Oh God yes.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:07 PM
He said WHAT???? Write a post about that!
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Vladdy you referring to the DMC that never plays?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 PM
They controlled that game from start to finish. Foster is really struggling this year. He’s so patient, and that has worked well in the past. Forsett has just been hitting the holes fast and has been a lot more effective.
The secondary is being held together by gum and paper clips at this point. Also getting extremely thin at linebacker. Though I think the Brooks Reed injury is actually a good thing as it forces him to rest for most of the remaining regular season.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Good info… I definitely wasn’t trying to criticize him, just show there is room for improvement (I’m sure even flawed stats will improve as he gets better). I guess if nothing else, it’ll be nice to have the Indy-Pats rivalry back, because I know Indy has never ever let it.
On the other hand, Mallett vs. Luck is not a battle I wish to wage with the former on my side.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:10 PM
The last thing the Raiders should be worrying about is their QB — not because Palmer is very good, but the rest of that team is a giant Stoma-fuck. That defense, my goodness.
But Raiders fans wanna see Pryor. Of course they do.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:10 PM
He fits the profile. I can see it happening. Over the past 20 years, I don’t think any other franchise relied more on FAs at QB than the Vikings. Jim McMahon, Cunningham, George, Moon, Favre, Frerotte… okay maybe the Chiefs have more
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 PM
but the rest of that team is a giant Stoma-fuck.
Go on…
/spencer
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Palmer has not been the problem…but the team is 3-9 and looking to wrap up a top 5 pick. I just want to be entertained…and see if Pryor is worth keeping around in the future. It’s certainly not with the hopes of finishing 6-10.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Smith in Minnesota makes a lot of sense…except I’m skeptical that ownership will abandon their first round Ponder pick for a FA.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:12 PM
Lisk, what do you think about sean weatherspoon? He’s quickly turning out to be my favorite Falcon. It’s nice to finally have an impact LB after years of watching Keith “accumulate tackle after 6 yard gain” Brooking.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:13 PM
There goes over a year of trying to forget.
I *think* this is the original stoma post http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/06/16/espn-reporter-chris-sheridan-is-suing-peter-vecsey-of-the-ny-post-for-libel/
/if not, whatever
//archives!
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:13 PM
I don’t think any other franchise relied more on FAs at QB than the Vikings.
if you count Tony Homo, then Dallas has.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 PM
He’s not.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Smith to Kansas City. No QB worth taking that high in the draft
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
“If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
Two Clubs
-Head-to-head, if applicable.
-Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
-Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
-Strength of victory.
-Strength of schedule.
-Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
-Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
-Best net points in conference games.
-Best net points in all games.
-Best net touchdowns in all games.
-Coin toss.
-Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
-Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
-Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
-Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
-Strength of victory.
-Strength of schedule.
-Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
-Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
-Best net points in conference games.
-Best net points in all games.
-Best net touchdowns in all games.
-Coin toss”
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
I think the clusterfuck game management Jim Harbaugh put on yesterday deserves its own post. Even forgiving the ridiculous option play with Ted Ginn that resulted in the tying TD, the time management fiasco after the long QB run is Exhibit A on how not to do.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Lisk, what do you think about sean weatherspoon?
He thinks he’s one of the few reasons to take pride in Mizzou at the moment.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
As you may have guessed, SF failing to just win cost me some $$ yesterday.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 PM
WWoS – where are those baseball meetings being held?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Fan trolling aside, yeah, that’s true. And it sounds like you’ll get your wish, if McKenzie’s to be believed.
Some things may never be forgotten.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 PM
Definitely this. Trade down if possible, take off/def linemen. Get a free agent and draft/develop a QB next year (or take one late and develop him). I don’t think a 1st round QB is the solution this year, even with the lower cap hits.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:16 PM
I think the stoma fetish discussion came about on a post about how a female ESPN personality watches porn with her boyfriend.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 PM
You must be basing this on his bust of a college career.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Opryland
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
I do not miss Bruce Arians on the Steeler sidelines.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
Has it ever come down to a coin toss?
I can’t imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if the flipping of a coin determine who made the playoffs.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
giant Stoma-fuck.
Stoma-fuck is not the preferred nomenclature – Cincinnati Bow-Tie, please.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
which personality? Charissa thompson? Then tell me more. Shelley Smith? I’d rather not hear.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
I say they go ahead and start Pryor Thursday.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
All at Opryland Hotel, though a few places downtown (Wildhorse) have some GM/posse parties you can talk your way into if you know the right people.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:19 PM
I would love Alex Smith in Minnesota just so I can make baby hands jokes all game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Watching the hillbilly’s face as the Colts won last night was priceless. Looking like the fat kid who showed up and the candy store was closed.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Eh, not really basing it on anything except that if I wanted to judge him fairly, I’d have to watch a Raiders’ game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:20 PM
Eagles need to continue to lose this year…3-13 guarantees high enough of a pick to grab either Joeckel or Jarvis Jones if they bring in a 3-4 Defensive Coordinator.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Teams think they can just run it to run down the clock, punt it away and win the game. Not in today’s football. When you have the chance to finish an opponent you have to avoid the prevent offense. It happens all too often now.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Part time Village People impersonator Brady Quinn was responding to press conference questions while promoting himself as a football player. He provided some asinine Luddite insights on social media and mental heath. But what happens when you throw a closeted catholic boy against a panel of quote hungry journalists? Well, some overwhelming emotions of shame and secrecy are sure to erupt like a thunderous volcano, and that’s exactly what happened on Sunday when Brady Quinn said “Cum on my face.”
Incredibly stunning, and downright hilarious. Can’t wait to hear the official response from GLAAD.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 PM
I do.
/Ravens fan
Seriously, Haley is a huge upgrade. Pittsburgh’s receivers were running wide open thanks to well-designed patterns and schemes. I’d kill for Cameron to have one of those plays, let alone all of them.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Why?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 PM
I still have a bunch of Daunte baby hands jokes that were left unused
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 PM
which personality? Charissa thompson? Then tell me more. Shelley Smith? I’d rather not hear.
Can’t remember. It might have been the one with the forehead but who everyone here would still have intercourse with. Whatever her name is.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Merril Hoge?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:23 PM
Steelers won a Super Bowl with Arians and Roethlisberger loved him.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:24 PM
McShay still has Geno Smith as the #1 QB in this draft. I mean holy shit. There’s no reason for any QB to go in the first round this year but you know goddamn well someone is going to take someone in the top ten to placate idiots.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:24 PM
I’d say may only goal for the team would be to hurt Peyton…but he’s just too likable.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:24 PM
Sage Steele fits the description
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:25 PM
I think Jen Brown is the fivehead you’re looking for.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 PM
Jags will do it.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 PM
He was good coordinator who usually had good plans, especially the scripted plays, but lacks balance and puts the QB is too many vulnerable positions with limited protect and long pass patterns. Ben’s sack rate is down a substantial amount despite his continued tendency to hold the ball. Luck having an above average sack rate does not surprise me in the least.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 PM
I think Jen Brown is the fivehead you’re looking for.
That’s the one. I guess I could have also said the one with the tramp stamp.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Have never met a Steelers fan who didn’t want Arians gone well before last year.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Not with The Chad Henne Resurgence.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Also, Arians enabled Ben’s bad habits too much. Good coordinator and brings a lot to the table, just takes a lot as well.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Has there ever been a great football coach that treated others like decent human beings?
Nick Saban would like for you, you naive little sports fan, to read his upcoming book ‘Me, aight’.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Don’t you need an initial surge for it to be considered a “resurgence”?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Especially when a team can’t run block or punt well. Mikael LeShoure has another sweet day. 21 carries, 57 yards. Nice pick Mayhew.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Valid points. The high sack rate is the inherent weak point Arians’ schemes, but I think his offense’s big play ability and overall production outweigh the sacks. Doesn’t help that he’s always matched with bad offensive line personnel.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 PM
you overestimate the Jags.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 PM
weak point of* Arians’ schemes
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
The one thing I did love about Arians was he didn’t bow to the dipshit “STEELERS FOOTBALL IS RUNNING POUND THE BALL POUND IT” when they had one of the most dangerous receiving corps in the game. Tony Dungy led this brigade.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
That’s the kind of thing that can get you drummed out of Raider Nation.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Good work, s1.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
John Gagliardi
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 PM
I would intercourse the holy fuck out of Sage Steele.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 PM
We’ll see how this one holds up over time.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:36 PM
Alex Smallhands would wilt like the delicate hothouse flower he is in that spotlight.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:39 PM
OL is even weaker this year, yet results are better despite injuries to everyone.
Agreed
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:41 PM
Where did this cliche originate? Because they hardly did that when Bradshaw was there airing it out. Is it a Jerome Bettis thing or something?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:42 PM
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:43 PM
I think Jen Brown is the fivehead you’re looking for.
That’s the one. I guess I could have also said the one with the tramp stamp.
HOLY SCHNIKIES she’s a midget!!!
/ wouldn’t throw her out of bed though
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 PM
“We get off the bus running” from Lovie Smith is also a favorite
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 PM
I believe the Steelers have the all time franchise lead in total rushing yards, something close to 90k.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Yes. Every dumb Yinzer would scream about getting back to the GROUND AND POUND STYLE THAT WON THEM SUPER BOWLS as soon as the Steelers lost a game. If it were up to the fans, the Steelers would draft a fullback with every pick for five straight years.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:45 PM
Because when I think Steeler football, I think Barry Foster, Bam Morris and Walter Abercrombie.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:45 PM
I meant with the Colts this year. His schemes can expose the QB, no doubt. But the big plays are worth it IMO
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 PM
“OHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!”
/Jets montage
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:47 PM
Fast Willie Parker.
“He needs to get more touches!”
Not really.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 PM
The Steelers are one of the few teams in NFL history to have two 1000 yard running backs on the same team in the same season and that was back in the 70′s with Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier.
So, Yinzer faith in the running game goes back a ways.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:49 PM
Yeah saying it’s just Bettis is so incredibly wrong. Harris is the twelfth all time leading rusher, that wasn’t exactly a one sided offense.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Of course, the Steelers have also been around for about 80 years.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Dallas has Emmitt and Dorsett both with over 12K, why doesn’t anyone wax poetic about their running game?
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:53 PM
That stat is only since the merger.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Just don’t be gay, or Dungy won’t consider you worth being decent to.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:54 PM
It’s partly media, partly ownership. The Rooney’s have always prioritized defense, so the running game is a natural compliment. Also, Pittsburgh fits the smashmouth narrative better than the flashy Cowboys. There has long been an obsession with Cowboy qbs too.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
complement*
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
It isn’t an either/or proposition, you can have more balance and still get big plays. I think Arians as an OC gets too wrapped up in in swinging for the fences to the detriment of the offense as a whole. I think now that he is acting as the HC, he is getting better perspective of the big picture.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Fair point.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
…and Romo has the most TDs of them all.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Can’t stand Dungy. Not fully rationally, but I just don’t like the dude at all as a TV guy, as a coach, really as anything.
/let the commentariat finish that one for me
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Ah, I see. I could have seen it either way, though. I wonder who has the most all-time. Probably Chicago.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:56 PM
People wax poetic about the o-lines of both franchises through their dominant eras. But the Steelers have this romanticism with hard running guys, I’m not saying I like it, I’m just saying there is a history there is all. And that most importantly, the mouth breathers who still scream about it have no had an impact since Bettis and Parker.
December 3rd, 2012 at 1:59 PM
These the same ones screaming “one for the thumb” when they weren’t even born for the first four titles?
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
In his defense, it’s tough to hit big plays with a weak o-line without a lot of attempts. I see your point though.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
Carlisle Indians
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:00 PM
All-time most wins in college football history is a fun game… there must be a sporcle
http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/college_football_wins
seems recent?
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 PM
SIXBURGH!!!!!!!
I have to avoid bars on gameday now because I find the fans so fucking irritating. God I miss hockey season.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Created Jan 1, 2009
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
it’s because of the cum of Dungy’s skin, isn’t it?
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:05 PM
you’re good people, mm
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:11 PM
I got 21/26, mostly because I just skipped areas without thinking through it. Shouldn’t be very hard, and the few hard ones you should luck into.
It says source in 2012… updated after 2011 bowls.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:12 PM
That makes some sense. The more you think about the idea of ending your life, the more it can seem like a bad idea.
Unless they’re always depressed and thinking about it constantly. Yeah, a person can reason their way out of it for a while, but eventually the mind just caves in on itself and the person has nothing to pull it out the ditch.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:23 PM
Goddamnit I missed Colorado.