College Football 2012 Bowl Game Schedule: Knee-Jerk Reactions
The full bowl schedule has been finalized. Here is a run down of the 35 games with a few knee-jerk thoughts.
BCS Bowls
BCS Championship [Notre Dame vs. Alabama] This game may set a ratings record. There are a number of fascinating cultural angles. The game itself may not live up to that hype. SEC fans are overrating Alabama and underrating the progress Notre Dame has made rebuilding their defense under Brian Kelly. They have an SEC front. They are good enough not to get blown out. Whether their offense can score on an SEC defense is another matter.
Orange [Florida State vs. Northern Illinois] The Huskies earned their place. The rules are the rules. The human element voted them into this game. They ranked higher in the BCS rankings than Louisville and Wisconsin. Their best BCS win (No. 25) Kent State was close to Oklahoma’s best (No. 23) Texas and much better than Clemson’s best (No. 50) Ball State, which was also beaten by Northern Illinois. This game is going to be terrible? Have you watched Florida State play an underdog? Great job shitting all over some kids’ memorable achievement to defend the right of Oklahoma to get rewarded for being Oklahoma.
Sugar [Florida vs. Louisville] Louisville’s hopes rest with quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. Florida’s defense leads the nation in passer rating against. This game has some interesting story-lines – can Florida finally muster sumer offense? – but this may not be that interesting of a game. Florida is much better than any team Louisville has played in 2012.
Rose [Stanford vs. Wisconsin] Both schools are playing in their third-straight BCS games. Both teams run power offenses. Both teams have solid defenses. Wisconsin’s record will turn people off, but they may be the team best equipped to give Stanford a game. Will the third time be the charm for Bielema after close losses to TCU and Oregon?
Fiesta [Kansas State vs. Oregon] This could have been the BCS title game. One could construct a case, statistically, for these being the two best teams. KSU and Oregon rank (1) and (2) respectively in FEI. Oregon slightly edges Alabama as the No. 1 SRS team, with Kansas State at No. 4.
The Rest
New Mexico Bowl [Arizona vs. Nevada] Two up-tempo, high-powered offenses. When college football-starved in mid-December, this is definitely watchable.
Potato Bowl [Toledo vs. Utah State] Utah State lost two games by a combined five points at Wisconsin and at BYU. What might have been…
Poinsettia Bowl [BYU vs. San Diego State] BYU has a great defense and a terrible offense. San Diego State does both things decently. Thursday night? Sure.
Beef O’Brady’s Bowl [Ball State vs. UCF] UCF delayed its bowl ban to make a run and ended up here. Ball State, according to the BCS Rankings, was Clemson’s best win.
New Orleans Bowl [East Carolina vs. Louisiana-Lafayette] …
MAACO Bowl Las Vegas [Boise State vs. Washington] Boise State has gone 34-4 the past three seasons, with the four losses coming by a combined 10 points. They are making their third-straight trip to this bowl. Non-AQ Status!
Hawaii Bowl [Fresno State vs. SMU] Fresno State is a sneaky good team. SMU lost by 45 at home to Texas A&M. Future natural rivals in the Big East?
Pizza Bowl [Central Michigan vs. Western Kentucky] Will Willie Taggart still be coaching?
Military Bowl [Bowling Green vs. San Jose State] These teams lost six games combined. Four were to teams that finished inside the BCS Top 25.
Belk Bowl [Cincinnati vs. Duke] Duke finally reaches a bowl game…to get toasted by Charlotte.
Holiday Bowl [Baylor vs. UCLA] Two good offenses. Underrated Baylor team. Worth a watch.
Independence Bowl [Ohio vs. ULM] Two teams that started fast and fell off. Ehhh…
Russell Athletic [Rutgers vs. Virginia Tech] Virginia Tech is bowling at 6-6 with an FCS win and two over-time wins, one of those coming against Boston College. Everyone gets a trophy.
Meineke Car Care Bowl [Minnesota vs. Texas Tech] Jerry Kill has enacted an impressive turnaround, but this has definite #BEATEMDOWN potential.
Armed Forces Bowl [Air Force vs. Rice] Falcons are going up against the nation’s No. 110 ranked run defense.
Pinstripe Bowl [Syracuse vs. West Virginia] The Mountaineers moved on up to the Big 12, only to face Syracuse in a Big East night game. Lovely. Holgorsen may go for triple-digits.
Kraft Fight Hunger [Arizona State vs. Navy] Will Todd Graham still be coaching?
Alamo Bowl [Oregon State vs. Texas] A coach who gets the most from his talent vs. a coach that gets the least from it but has a lot more of it.
Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl [Michigan State vs. TCU] Because America needed one more opportunity to watch Michigan State play offense.
Music City Bowl [N.C. State vs. Vanderbilt] One coach got a huge extension for getting here. The other got shit-canned.
Sun Bowl [Georgia Tech vs. USC] How much more intriguing is this game if it is Louisiana Tech instead of Georgia Tech?
Liberty Bowl [Iowa State vs. Tulsa] …

Chick-fil-A Bowl [Clemson vs. LSU] Les vs. Dabo. Chad Morris vs. John Chavis. Avowedly heterosexual fast food. We’re not going to feel bad bagging New Years Eve to watch this (has anyone ever had one that lived up to its billing?).
Heart of Dallas Bowl [Purdue vs. Oklahoma State] The Bloody Mary Bowl. Purdue will get flattened.
Gator Bowl [Mississippi State vs. Northwestern] This may be the Big Ten’s best opportunity to win a bowl game. Mississippi State’s best win was against 4-8 Arkansas.
Capital One Bowl [Georgia vs. Nebraska] So close, yet so far. If Nebraska is as bad against the run as they were against Wisconsin, this will get ugly.
Outback Bowl [Michigan vs. South Carolina] Michigan’s defense has been one of the best in the country at limiting big plays and should keep the game within range. Whether the Wolverines can gain any traction or hang onto the ball against South Carolina’s front seven to win it is another question.
Cotton Bowl [Oklahoma vs. Texas A&M] Bob Stoops against his protege. The Heisman winner against the Heisman candidate that never materialized. It’s not as fun as Texas vs. Texas A&M would have been, but we’ll be watching. Oklahoma has already sold out its allotment.
Compass Bowl [Ole Miss vs. Pittsburgh] Spunky SEC team against a Pittsburgh team that showed flashes of being decent with a month to regroup. Potential to be a sneaky good game, we hope.
GoDaddy.Com Bowl [Arkansas State vs. Kent State] Will Malzahn or Hazell still be there?
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December 3rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Don’t understand the outrage over unsexy BCS game matchups. They’re bastardized games to begin with, being played so long after the end of the season.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
Well played, Duffy!
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:50 PM
This game may set a ratings record
TBL boner in 3..2..
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:51 PM
Except for when they played teams with any semblance of offense.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:52 PM
Heart of Dallas Bowl
Jerry Jones is just making up shit, isn’t he?
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:53 PM
The Heisman winner against the Heisman candidate that never materialized.
still can’t believe how crappy the field is this year.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:55 PM
This is my favorite part of Bowl Season. You get unexpected great games in the middle of the week. Like the Idaho OT game a few years ago, and the Byron Leftwich video game simulation where his linemen were carrying him down the field.
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:57 PM
Landry’s going to shock the world and finally win that Heisman that has eluded him.
/ 1 more game of his career…yes
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:58 PM
What about the remainder of their schedules? And how do they stack up in the FEI and SRS that you like to use?
December 3rd, 2012 at 2:59 PM
Get it? Because of narratives.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 PM
Sagarin Strength of Schedule Ranking:
Oklahoma – 6
Northen Illinois – 127
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:00 PM
This is my favorite part of Bowl Season. You get unexpected great games in the middle of the week. Like the Idaho OT game a few years ago, and the Byron Leftwich video game simulation where his linemen were carrying him down the field.
the best part is watching football and not having a care in the world who wins. Just seeing games from teams you wouldn’t normally watch, playing hard.
Sadly, often the worst part is the actual football being played.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:01 PM
A&M is going to be tough…also can they try letting Blake Bell do something else…it is so obvious, and not really that effective.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:02 PM
Their best BCS win (No. 25) Kent State was close to Oklahoma’s best (No. 23) Texas
Sagarin Strength of Schedule Ranking:
Oklahoma – 6
Northen Illinois – 127
so they’re dead even in comparisons, as long as you admit those taken out of context
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 PM
hey blue horseshoe, if i’ve got to delete another one of your comments, you’re gone, guy
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:03 PM
Part of the bullshit, broken BCS system. However:
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:04 PM
Oregon might put up 50 against K-State. Their defense will probably get somewhat healthy between now and January Whatever, but Case McCoy was doing damn near anything he wanted for about 3/4th’s of that game Saturday night. None of my K-State fans could tell me for sure, but it seems like the Wildcat d-backs must just be terrible, because they were 10 yards off the line on every damn play. K-State’s linebackers are good run stoppers but they can’t cover anyone on pass routes. Oregon is just going to run slant route after slant route and run wild through a wide open middle of the field.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM
Not nearly enough bowls.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM
hey blue horseshoe, if i’ve got to delete another one of your comments, you’re gone, guy
tough talk, from a tough talker
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM
I agree with that part…but let’s not pretend like the better team got in.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:05 PM
Shouldn’t comments be off for this one?
Also, kudos on the Les Miles Fuk-A-Chiken Bowl gif. Pretty much sums it all up.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I expect that kind of talk from Spencer.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I must have watched a different 3/4s than your 3/4s.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
I agree with that part…but let’s not pretend like the better team got in.
I think i can pretty easily direct you to some posts from last bowl season where Ty Duffy says that Michigan deserved their BCS bid because they were Michigan.
Do you want me to do that for you?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Pretty sure I heard that Northern Illinois is gonna lose a couple million dollars by going to a BCS Bowl.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:06 PM
If the Sun Bowl wasn’t on the 31st I’d probably drive over to El Paso to check that one up. Pick up some new boots. Climb to a tall building with some binoculars and see if I could see any gang activity going on across the border. Oh well. That all sounds exhausting anyway.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Oregon might put up 50 against K-State.
yep, bad matchup for k state. a exceptional offense, like baylor, is hard for them. and oregon’s o is better than baylor’s.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 PM
This I agree with.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:07 PM
The BCS has destroyed the Orange Bowl. The ACC tie-in is a huge part of that. But now that they FINALLY get Florida State after a 7 year drought, they get stuck with a MAC school that has no hope of selling their allotment and a game that very few people will watch.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Is that something you might be interested in?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Dammit, now I want to know what the comment was.
By any chance was it something off-color about cum?
/ Runs away
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Oh sure. OU is much better than Northern Illinois, and not just because “they’re OU”. But whatever, I’d rather have them play A&M in Dallas than Florida State anyway.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:08 PM
Terribly. Though both FEI and SRS would knock Notre Dame out of the title game. FEI would knock Notre Dame and Alabama out.
What matters for the system we have is BCS rankings. Northern Illinois convinced poll voters and that’s all that really matters.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:09 PM
He’s already trembling…
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:09 PM
Your word is good enough for me…if you say it, it’s true, and everyone believes it.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Loved the piece from Awful Announcing on Herbstreit.
What did Blue Horseshoe do??
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
The best of the field. Should be a great game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Jerry Kill has enacted an impressive turnaround, but this has definite #BEATEMDOWN potential.
He’s already trembling…
B+
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
This isnt Jerry’s game. This game is played at the actual Cotton Bowl. The Cotton Bowl is now played at JerryWorld.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
here’s that Duffy post:
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2011/12/08/dont-like-michigan-vs-virginia-tech-who-should-the-sugar-bowl-have-taken/
When compared to this one, about not taking Oklahoma, it’s reasonably funny.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
What did Blue Horseshoe do??
Insider trading.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:11 PM
Re: the FEI. BCS “outrage” is one thing, but could you imagine what would happen if an undefeated ND team got left out of the championship game?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Nice to hear the ESPN college football analysts have ratcheted up their faux outrage over Northern Illinois in the Orange Bowl… will be betting heavily on the Huskies.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Yes, that was exactly what I said.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Your word is good enough for me…if you say it, it’s true, and everyone believes it.
have some of this delicious Kool-Aid, won’t you?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
Can’t get over the fact that the MAC is sending a 1-loss team to the Orange Bowl
Also the B1G isnt favored in a single bowl game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:12 PM
The sequel to that movie is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. Watched it on a plane, there’s a motorcycle race scene between Shia and (I think) Josh Brolin that has to be up there for worst things ever committed to film.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Yes, that was exactly what I said.
i linked it up, take a look. Do you want me to pull a quote, too?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 PM
In a world where the B12 has 10 teams and the B10…well you get it….
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 PM
He was 26/34 for the game (76%), and was probably higher percentage than that going into the 4th quarter. Texas was up 17-14 at 7:24 in the third, when K-State scored again, Texas had a 3-and-out to end the 4th, and then the wheels came off.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 PM
FUCK YOU GENE SMITH.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:14 PM
here’s your opening salvo:
Who should the Sugar Bowl have picked? The correct answer is Michigan and Virginia Tech, because the BCS is not a postseason system designed to reward merit. The goal, after the AQ bids are covered, is to rack up ticket sales, hotel room sales and television ratings. The choices were cynical, but those were the two biggest schools that made sense.
and to compare to today…
Great job shitting all over some kids’ memorable achievement to defend the right of Oklahoma to get rewarded for being Oklahoma.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Anybody seen that Oliver Stone bullshit on Showtime? The Untold History of the United States? I watched an hour of the WWII episode, 45 minutes of which was dedicated to the Soviet Union’s role in winning the war for the Allies, 100% of which is known by anyone smart enough to pay attention in World History 101.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Me, soused and a lot of other people would be drunkenly laughing our asses off?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 PM
So, you’re sticking with the “toasting” thing, like the players care where they’re going, despite how the La Tech situation showed that that’s complete bullshit? Ok. Finger on the pulse, Duffman.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 PM
The sequel to that movie is one of the worst things I’ve ever seen. Watched it on a plane, there’s a motorcycle race scene between Shia and (I think) Josh Brolin that has to be up there for worst things ever committed to film.
Yeah that scene was truly awful. The movie had promise and does a halfway decent job of exploring just how deep of a shit many Wall Street banks were in during most of 2008, but between Susan Sarandon’s horrendous Long Island accent and the orgy or product placement, to say nothing of the fact that Carey Mulligan breaks off her engagement with Shia’s character, while carrying his child no less, because he lied about when he first met her father is beyond idiotic. The movie is a disjointed mess, not unlike Oliver Stone himself these days.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Soused drinks?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 PM
A year from now, you might change that to “Geno Smith” and still be within your rights.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Source of the Les gif? I don’t think it’s from Presswire.
/10000 spoons when all you need is a knife’d
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
…and Oklahoma already sold out their allotment of tickets…could have been huge for the Orange Bowl.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
Huffle Duff getting testy again?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
counterpoint: wall street 2 is not the footloose remake.
/watched footloose remake on the red-eye back from hawaii crammed in a coach seat next to this snoring bitch with a ton of travel cushion things
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:18 PM
…and Oklahoma already sold out their allotment of tickets…could have been huge for the Orange Bowl.
that’s not what he was talking about. He was talking about Michigan deserving things, not Oklahoma.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Different situations. Northern Illinois by rule got an automatic bid. The post last year was about which teams should receive an at large bid. Michigan had a case. There were multiple teams who had a better football resume than Virginia Tech.
Of course Oklahoma is a better team and has a better resume. That doesn’t mean they should have a birthright to an at large bid over a team that worked a system stacked against them.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Damn, wish we had an 8 team playoff with 6 auto bids this year so Oregon, LSU, Texas A&M, Georgia, South Carolina, and Oklahoma could be out and Louisville and Northern Illinois could play for a title. That’s fairness.
/Duffy plan
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
i was under the assumption that michigan men earn what they get…nyet?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Ah, there’s the rub, ritty. I wouldn’t be surprised if 50 percent of the American public today is unaware that the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. fought on the same side in WWII.*
/ * After Operation Barbarossa, that is
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:19 PM
Jay Bilas thinks that Herbstreit went overboard about VCU…er..I mean N.Illinois.
Lets hope Herbie ends up looking as smart as Jay did.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 PM
I’m happy to see a MAC school in a BCS game. Lots going against those schools. Go to see 1 outsider in there a year IMO.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:20 PM
counterpoint: wall street 2 is not the footloose remake.
Wall Street 2 isn’t a remake though. It’s a clumsy attempt to update the story line from the original Wall Street by capitalizing on current economic news.
Also, I thought it pretty dark for them to kill off Rudy in between the movies when he was only a toddler in the first movie.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Updating my TBL bizarro survival pick to the blue horse. Going chalk.
Alamo Bowl last year was on the craziest games I ever saw.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:21 PM
Michigan had a case.
being Michigan, as I recall. Selling tickets and so forth.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Well, that’s true. But of that 50%, roughly 2% of them have Showtime. Of them, only 1% ever actually flip through Showtime when Homeland isn’t on. Of them, only .00001% would watch this show. So…Oliver Stone made this for himself?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
What a cutey.
/ Plus she beat those badass angels in “Blink”
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Ah, there’s the rub, ritty. I wouldn’t be surprised if 50 percent of the American public today is unaware that the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. fought on the same side in WWII.*
/ * After Operation Barbarossa, that is
Later than that. We didn’t enter the war until just under 6 months later. By that time Churchill had allied Britain with the Soviets on the principle that “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” though he personally hated Communism. We inherited that alliance when Germany declared war on us December 10. Which, in retrospect, has to be, in the words of John Keegan, one of the most perverse decisions by a head of state in the 20th century.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:22 PM
Then don’t set up an poorly constructed argument comparing their “best wins”.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
A system that gets an 11-1 MAC team a spot in one of the big money games cannot plausibly be called “stacked against them”. In fact, the entire reason for the rule you cite that got N. Illinois a bid is to make concessions to non-AQ conferences so they don’t get sued more than usual.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
understood…i was speaking more from a “worst things committed to film.” my mistake for being an ADD stoner.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
So…Oliver Stone made this for himself
This your first time meeting Oliver Stone?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Wisconsin being a smallest underdog of the five BCS games amused me
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
To be fair, he’s been doing that with every one of his movies since the mid-’80s.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Or if you read the post you linked to, being ranked the highest by most statistical systems. Logical choice would have been Michigan and Boise State for that Sugar Bowl if just considering football.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Baylor UCLA is the game of this bowl season IMO. It’s hard to quantify motivation which is what can make these games wild, but I have to think both Baylor and UCLA will be amped to play that one. Baylor is on fire right now, hopefully the off time doesn’t play havoc with them.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
understood…i was speaking more from a “worst things committed to film.” my mistake for being an ADD stoner.
Gotcha. Well if we’re talking some of the worse things committed to film Wall Street 2 isn’t in that category. Though I did see a remake of Dorian Gray on Showtime yesterday with Colin Firth. It was so horrible but my wife insisted on finishing it.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Also the B1G isnt favored in a single bowl game.
they shouldnt be, they are garbage.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
i took more offense with duffy’s assertion that VT’s fanbase is an economic tour de force than him saying michigan was BCS worthy in a year where there were like five good teams.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:24 PM
Yeah, you’re right. MAC teams are totally on a level playing field in college football.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
I believe he argused at one point that the Allies should team up with Hitler against the Soviets, no?
/ Patton no doubt agreed
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Counter-counterpoint: Julianne Hough is Julianne Hough.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
Wow, I written some stuff but nothing that has been deleted. Out of bounds stuff. Butt stuff.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
uh…what?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM
That was the Sugar Bowl’s take, not mine.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Any Guy Ritchie-Madonna collaboration has to be in the running.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM
NO.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:26 PM
Count me in.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:27 PM
i havent seen a sicilian get shot down like this since joe pesci in goodfellas.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:27 PM
My curiosity is definitely piqued.
/ No Coop’d
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:29 PM
dont have anything to respond…but, seriously, fuck VT.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Oklahoma was never in line to go to the Orange Bowl. The Sugar Bowl would have picked them to play Florida, and Louisville would have been in the Orange Bowl.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:30 PM
I believe he argused at one point that the Allies should team up with Hitler against the Soviets, no?
Not exactly. Churchill hated Communism but he continued to barter with Stalin right up until the end of the war on “spheres of influence” in the Middle East and the Balkans. Churchill was under the impression that the British Empire would still have it’s same level of prewar influence in the Mediterranean and Middle East. But what he ignored while thinking that was that Britain had liquidated almost all of its overseas and capital investments to pay for the war effort. This meant that the British military went through an even more thorough demobilization than the U.S. military did postwar. Being bereft of financial power and military muscle tends to diminish a nation’s authority in the international sphere.
But to your question Churchill did entertain the idea of launching a surprise attack on the Soviets in Germany immediately after the war, but this was only a thought. As his former Chief of Staff said, Churchill had 10 ideas every day; 9 of them bad and most of the day was spent analyzing why those 9 were bad.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Original version of that movie is hilarious. Plot:
Rich women on cruise is cunty to this guy waiter or something
Ship crashes? she is stranded on island with guy (don’t remember, drunk)
She acts snooty and the guy beats her for 40 minutes of the movie
She falls in love with him in between beatings and washing his socks
They get rescued and she leaves him once they get back home
/good times
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:31 PM
Oops. Remembered that Churchill-Hitler-Soviets thing all backward. Mea culpa.
/ Remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:32 PM
And ratings. And ticket sales. Not only did the Sugar Bowl make an absurd football decision, they also made an absurd economic decision.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Lebron is SI Sportsman of the Year
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
I was just trumpeting Duffy’s ticket sales bit…don’t ruin my narrative.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Contains the immortal command: “Sodomize me!”
Still not as good as Seven Beauties, though.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Connecticut lost money when they went to the Fiesta Bowl because they could not sell their allotment of tickets. They quickly found out that Big Boy Football requires Big Boy fan support. They thought they could just return their unsold tickets, but the Fiesta Bowl told them they were on the hook for their entire allotment.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Yes, but that comment was that he advocated teaming up with Hitler, which was not true. That would have been Hitler’s ideal plan.
I think Churchill’s quote was that if Hitler invaded Hell he would make a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons or something like that.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
Yes, but that comment was that he advocated teaming up with Hitler, which was not true. That would have been Hitler’s ideal plan.
I initially missed that part of his comment. But yes I think the only group of people which Churchill disliked more than the Communists was the Nazis.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
NIU’s allotment of 17,500 tickets, is more than their average home attendance.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:36 PM
this wouldve been great on hitler’s facebook page.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I can get with this.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:38 PM
I was thinking about this on the treadmill earlier (my mind wanders), MS: What book/pamphlet has had the most influence on U.S. history? Uncle Tom’s Cabin? Common Sense? One of Locke’s works (Two Treatises?)? Or did I forget something? Your pick?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Go Syracuse!
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 PM
Excellent.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:40 PM
the bible, probably.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:41 PM
Of course they’re going to lose money, they’re giving students a free ticket. Much to the chagrin of Joe Casualfan and Brian Bracketfiller, the school is really excited about going a non-title game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:42 PM
I forgot to mention that I was mentally excluding that one.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
agreed the bible’s like reddit that for every good thing in there, there’s 9 other things that are either horrible misinterpreted or full of hate.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
I was thinking about this on the treadmill earlier (my mind wanders), MS: What book/pamphlet has had the most influence on U.S. history? Uncle Tom’s Cabin? Common Sense? One of Locke’s works (Two Treatises?)? Or did I forget something? Your pick?
I don’t know if you can pick just one, but if I was pressed to do so I would say Locke’s Second Treatise on Government. It is the very basis upon which British representative–and in turn American style republicanism–is based. I had a professor who stated that many Eastern Bloc countries had statues of Marx erected by their Communist-dominated governments during the Cold War. He could never understand why Western countries did not have statues to John Locke. His is the political philosophy upon which all later western writers based their thought.
First Treatise on Government really isn’t that important. It’s just a rebuttal of a writer named Sir Robert Filmer (might be remember that name incorrectly) who claimed that James II was infallible due to the Divine Right of Kings to rule.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM
Mao’s Little Red BooK?
/ Sorry, I was looking ahead to Obama’s third term
// Roundup’d
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 PM
the alternative was the Big East champion. is there really a difference?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:45 PM
I’d go with Commom Sense
Is it cheating to choose Dirt as my pick?
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:48 PM
The Mac has 7 teams going to bowl games. Kent State, who lost to NIU in the Mac title game (and was undefeated in regular season play) housed Rutgers a few weeks ago. the MAC isn’t some pathetic conference like the sun belt. It has some good teams. It was a better overall conference than the Big East this year by a long shot.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
Love the reaction video in that link. I think they are banking on increased donations and such from appearing in the game. Tough for them that the coach is leaving, though.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM
/ History’s new greatest monster
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:51 PM
A choice made by unsurprisngly few commenters on this site.
/ I include myself
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:53 PM
I don’t disagree.
also, the notion that NIU will get blown out by a team that let Georgia Tech hang around til the final minute is kind of funny to me.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 PM
Common Sense is truly important, but without the context established by John Locke in Second Treatise Thomas Paine would have no frame to even have those thoughts. The American idea of full representation as Englishmen and colonists was born out of the notion during the reign of James II and the subsequent Glorious Revolution that the power and whims of an executive (the King in this case) could not trample on the rights of the people to be heard in a representative body; Parliament. Locke framed this concept in Second Treatise and even more importantly than that he recognized the importance of property and the inviolability of ownership of property. Without this Thomas Paine wouldn’t even know what to be complaining about.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:56 PM
No and noted.
December 3rd, 2012 at 3:58 PM
<blockquoteWithout this Thomas Paine wouldn’t even know what to be complaining about
That was good. Thank you.
/starts USA chant
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Thanks MS. A little TBL education never hurt anybody.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:04 PM
Htown I would also listen to those who wanted to argue the importance of Thomas Hobbes. While Locke established the philosophy behind our form of government, Hobbes established the need for government in the first place and the nature of the relationship between the governed and the governors; i.e. the Social Contract. I still think Locke more important and Hobbes loses points for being a high strung loon. There’s a probably apocryphal story that Hobbes’ mother went into labor a month early when she heard about the approach of the Spanish Armada in 1588 and that as a consequence Hobbes went through life a nervous wreck.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Nothing about the Pirates and the Rajun Cajuns going at it in New Orleans. Don’t sleep on that one. It will be a hell of a party if nothing else.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:09 PM
I’m really hoping that was intentional.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:10 PM
It was addressed thusly: ” …. ”
Quite succint.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 PM
I’m really hoping that was intentional.
Unfortunately I’m not that good.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:11 PM
Damn, I can’t think or type for shit today.
“Succinct”
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:14 PM
The stuffed tiger?
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:20 PM
The stuffed tiger?
He was important too. He was the one who kept Calvin’s intellect grounded.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:40 PM
Sagarin Strength of Schedule Ranking:
Oklahoma – 6
Northen Illinois – 127
I know I’m repeating myself, but there are way too many teams and not enough cross-conference games to make strength of schedule mathematically accurate or relevant at all. Some SOS include current rankings, making them completely flawed immediately.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:41 PM
And oh yeah – the uproar here in Atl about uga not getting a BCS invite is comedic.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:49 PM
Kill’s work has been a stroke of genius…
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:52 PM
Or the Bengali people