Mason Plumlee Passed on the NBA, and He’s Why Duke is Very, Very Good This Year
Back in May, ESPN’s Jay Williams reported that Duke junior center Mason Plumlee was going to test the NBA waters. It appeared to be a brutal blow to the Blue Devils, who were already losing his brother Miles to graduation, and leading scorer Austin Rivers, who departed after his freshman year. On the heels of a first round NCAA exit to 15th seeded Lehigh, the 2012-2013 outlook for Duke appeared bleak.
In early April, Plumlee made the decision to return to Durham. Based on the first month of the season, it’s not an exaggeration to say that his staying at Duke was the biggest offseason decision – Cody Zeller never appeared to consider the NBA – in college basketball.
Plumlee scored 21 points and took 17 rebounds Wednesday, sparking a 2nd half rally to lead Duke over Ohio State, 73-67. Duke is unbeaten at 7-0, and in its three biggest games of the young season, Plumlee has been instrumental in victory:
Plumlee vs. Kentucky: 18 points, 7-of-8 FGs
Plumlee vs. Louisville: 16 points, seven rebounds
Plumlee vs. Ohio State: five offensive rebounds, 9-of-12 FTs
Obviously Seth Curry has improved (15.1 ppg), and freshman Rasheed Sulaimon has been a spark (41 percent 3-pointers), but Plumlee has been the man inside.
The biggest difference in Plumlee’s game – besides being significantly more assertive around the basket – is his free throw shooting (78.9 percent). Last year? He shot 52.8 percent from the line. He’s no longer a liability at the line. Plumlee’s draft stock is soaring – right now, he looks like a Top 5 pick (in a weak draft; we’ll have another mock draft tomorrow) – and I have already circled Jan. 26 on my calendar: Plumlee vs. Maryland’s Alex Len in a battle between two of the best big men in college basketball.

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November 29th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Won the game last night basically without Curry. Something about this squad I really like.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Remember when Plumlee made the decision to come back and TBL subsequently dropped Duke out of the top 25? Good times.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
I would have gone with “which one of these doesn’t belong” for the caption.
/He is good.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Losing black hole Rivers was probably the best thing to happen for Duke.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
but Duke is less good with Plumlee than they were going to be without Plumlee, right? at least, that’s what you told me before.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
OSU should have been at least double digits at the half but had to play the last 10 minutes without Craft and Thomas because of two borderline calls. Second half Duke was on and looked like a pretty special team. Still give a ton of credit to OSU for making this a toss-up game in that environment while only shooting 34%…
Bucks will be offensively challenged throughout the year but their defense can be the best in the country. They also need LaQuinton Ross (matchup nightmare and best pro prospect) to be a contributor by the tourney.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
OSU lost that game themselves. It’s early. Team will get much better. Amir Williams has hands of stone.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Maybe Duke should be in the Top 25, no?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
addition by subtraction with Rivers, as i surmised in the offseason.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
say what?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Aaron Craft had arguably his worth college game last night. I’d give Duke credit for that, but even they admitted after the game that they didn’t bother to guard him. He’s not a very good shooter, but that performance was pretty fluky if you’ve followed his career
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Lost my mental bet on who would be the first to mention this. Starscream was not on my radar.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
and I have already circled Jan. 26 on my calendar: Plumlee vs. Maryland’s Alex Len in a battle between two of the best big men in college basketball.
And Feb. 16th in CP. Should be fun to watch those two go at it.
/no Coop
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Worst game of Craft’s career. He was just awful last night.
I’m not discouraged. They were much better defensively than I would have guessed them to be.
I think Thad was scared to play Q and Thomas together because of potential defensive lapses. He shouldn’t be, at least when they are struggling to score.
OSU also had the wrong guys shooting it last night in the 2H. It should have been Deshaun and Lenzelle almost 75% of the time…
Plumlee has played fantastic ball so far. Still not sure how he’s making free throws this year. He’s got terrible form. Making those FT’s has helped his confidence in going to the hoop too.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Sulaimon sparked the rally actually, not Plumlee.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Not getting this one, if they improved by losing Rivers, how did they drop out of your top 25?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
You dropped them out of the Top 25 after Plumlee announced he was coming back.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
does urban meyer have anything to do with this ohio state team? no?
/doesnt give a shit
November 29th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
How many Dukies lost money on that Plumlee air-balled free throw? I take solace in that.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
i hate college basketball.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
This. He played lights out in the 2H. If they can get that type of production from him, then they will be a tough out.
I’m not convinced that wasn’t a high end game for him though.
/Could be wrong
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
So who’s Urban pushing out of the program to open up more scholarships for 2013?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Underwhelmed by both teams. Very impressed by Plumlee (enough so that I’m rummaging through my brain for the obligatory white guy comp. Real comp is a non-retarded Jevale McGee). Watching Quinn Cook play so emotionally reminded me why I strongly dislike college basketball, Uconn excepted. I’ll take the business-like approach, refined games, and superior rules of the pro game any day.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
close.
Not exactly off a cliff.
25th
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/03/college-basketball-top-25-for-2012-2013-very-very-early-edition/
then out
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/04/18/college-hoops-top-25-for-2012-2013-amended-to-reflect-recruitsnba-decisions/
November 29th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
The 48th best college basketball player is playing like a top 5 pick?
/How come no internal links to previous Duke posts?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Ohh I like his game a lot.
Also surprised OSU was able to dictate the pace in this game (well except for last 10 minutes), that doesn’t happen often at Cameron. That bodes very well for Ohio State.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
The NBA GM that takes a 23 yr old in the Top 5 will be looking for a new job soon after.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
curtis grant?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Syracuse fans have no sympathy for this.
We all know TBL only looks at boxscores so remember it’s all about the stats. Not what actually happened.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Cardale Jones, Joe (?) Hale, Cris Carter, Adam Griffin off schollie is he’s not already…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
He was the best scorer in this recruiting class and he was a rebounding and assist machine against Kentucky, plus his size gives him a huge advantage on defense in his position. You might be wrong.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
I don’t think Plumlee is a lottery pick.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
why? it’s the best.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
NO FUCKING SHIT. One of the worst officiated games I’ve ever seen.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Sullinger played like 8 minutes in the first half of that game after a bogus foul didn’t he?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
One last thing on the game last night:
FUCK Chris Collins. Act like an assistant coach not a bench player after winning the game. Chest bumping and giving “hard” looks is something that you should be LIGHT YEARS from doing. Acting like that tells me you are years away from becoming a head coach, if ever.
Fuck Wojo too, just because he is Wojo.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
it’s like watching music students play jazz in a recital hall compared to the nba’s village vanguard.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
i hate college basketball.
why? it’s the best.
they need to move the arch back to NBA range and i’ll change my mind.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
March 22: TBL headline reports Plumlee leaving for NBA, and says that if Rivers leaves, could be “facing a very down year.”
March 30: Lost top 3 players (including Plumlee) and in trouble because no one can create their own shot w/o Rivers
April 3: TBL places Duke at 25 citing his March 22 reasoning
April 18: After Plumlee decides to stay, TBL drops them completely out of top 25
November 29: TBL-Plumlee’s decsiion to return biggest in NCAA, will be top 5 pick and Rivers leaving was addition by subtraction, just as I surmised
…So confused
November 29th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Can wait until Alex Len destroys this punk.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
It’s Joel Hale. I’d keep Chris Carter.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I apologize HtownHacker, been lurking on this one for awhile. The sensationalism on dropping Duke out of the top 25 was through the roof. But, I guess that’s how the needle moves in the blog world.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
4-0 LSU playing 5-1 Seton Hall tonight on TV opposite Saints-Falcons. Hmmm.
Spencer, thanks to your alma mater for sending Johnny Jones back to Baton Rouge.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Well this is rich
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
I yield the balance of my time to Scalia.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
good luck finding 13 guys the NBA would rather have ahead of him.
“can’t teach height”
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
i also hate how a single 3 makes EVERYONE go crazy. hey bud, you’ve still got 28 minutes left in the game and you’re still down 10.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
…i dont know who this is. denton lost their jimmy johns?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Waiters missed the last 8 min of the half too and then to compound the ridiculous officiating, Waiters got his 4th with 13 minutes to go, Joseph and Jardine had 4 with 8 to go. The refs just lost control of that game and didn’t let the players decide it.
Waiters didn’t have 4 fouls in any other game last season and somehow fouled out in the Elite 8.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Considering that Miles got drafted in the first round, I’d say Mason being one is a lock unless a ton of people come out early this year.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
ill go look for the add by sub tweet. maybe wasn’t “offseason” but “preseason” or “during the win over Kentucky.
best site to go find old tweets?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
There a lot of 6-10 guys in the NBA. And the NBA graveyard is littered with 6-10 athletic bigs who never could shoot beyond 10 feet.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
It was terrible both ways. OSU had 4 guys on the bench in the first half. They played 2 guys who virtually never played all year.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
My guess, they’ll all be back for 2013, but summer attrition takes a few. I’m only keeping Carter if he shows potential to be a Big Hank in the middle – thus far, no dice.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
And shorten the shot clock, start playing 4 quarters, eliminate the one and one, stop calling so many charges, adopt defensive three seconds and eight second backcourt rule. That’ll be a start. Then the totally skilless big men will be the biggest issue.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
it’s college, if guys could create their own shot they’d be in the NBA.
Btw Plumlee may have been in last year’s lottery (his bro wasnt near the prospect and ended up going in the 1st). He’s top 5 this year barring the unforeseen.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
I recall fondly that epic Greg Oden – Roy Hibbert battle in the NCAA tourney.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Wake me up when college basketball players can actually, you know, shoot a basketball with accuracy.
On a more important topic, eff Gary Bettman
November 29th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Jesus God, another Thursday game with no good teams involved.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Hasn’t hurt the NBA for the past 10 years.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
Plumlee seems like a perfect fit for the Pacers
November 29th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Good lord some of you guys won’t drop this top 25 shit. So who cares? He made a mistake. We have all said stupid shit in regards to guessing about a teams success next year.
TBL in their defense though, if you had just originally said something along the lines of “hey I got that one wrong. My bad” they probably wouldn’t remind you of this every time Duke plays a game.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
He was the hoops coach at UNT for the last decade. Played guard for LSU when they went to the Final Four in ’81, spent time there as a recruiter/assistant coach, now is back as head coach.
aTm, good luck with Trent Johnson, the Romeo Crennel of college basketball.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
as per usual, i will not give a doodoo about CBB until after the super bowl. then i am all in.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Somewhere, Breesus is wondering why steam is rising from his ears.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
On the bright side the lottery-bound Mavs have dropped to 7-9.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
It’s not that he got it wrong, who cares. It’s that every single time he gets one sort of right he has the incessant need to point it out.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Agreed. Every 30 seconds there was another whistle.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
What GM is going to be savvy enough to get Plumlee in the 3rd round a la Joe Flacco?
November 29th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Twitter.
Seriously, there is a search function.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
I saw seriously embarrassed for college basketball after that Cuse/OSU game last year. So much talent on the bench because of the officials. Awful
I said it last night, but the sport’s growth continues to be limited because of the five-foul rule. You can’t have your best players sitting the bench for 10 minutes because of questionable calls.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
College hoops should have a 10-foul rule.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
It’s not so much that he got it wrong…it’s that he called out two or three other journalists on Twitter, calling their ranking Duke in the Top 10 “laughable”. I had no prob with J-Mac ranking Duke where he did…but it certainly wasn’t even remotely a laughable premise that could be a top 10 team.
All that said, def agree…addition by subtraction vis a vis Rivers.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
One foul for every 8 minutes of game time, just like the NBA. I am against any changes to the college game. It’s just about perfect.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
It’s funny because the fouls/minute ratio (1/8) is exactly the same as it is in the NBA. I think the main difference is most college teams have no depth, especially inside. Also the way college coaches handle fouls (refusing to play guys with 2 fouls in the first half) is troublematic.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Doesnt it take an additional foul to foul out in the NBA?
November 29th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
The games are 48 minuts long, not 40.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
right now, Duke looks great. i was wrong. long season. we’ll see.
as you saw with Notre Dame, no shame in my game being wrong. you write 10 posts a day, make predictions … you hit some, you miss some.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
This. Coaches have zero trust for their players. There are a handful of coaches who let their start play with 2 in the first half, but they are very rare.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
the NBA has a 3rd round now? damn, that’s going to shake up my mock draft tomorrow.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
There were 48 fouls called in the Ohio State / Syracuse game. Anyone who watched that game and claims there’s not a problem with college officiating is a moron.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
They should just start the D-League’s draft at this point instead of pretending it’s the NBA… That’s where most of these kids are gonna wind up anyway.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
One foul for every 8 minutes of game time, just like the NBA. I am against any changes to the college game. It’s just about perfect.
+1
November 29th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Yeah, I saw the game and agree it was ridiculous. Don’t remember who the crew was. Not sure what you can do to “fix” officiating, and I also think that game was an exception.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Far from perfect but still enjoyable. The officials ruin so many games. You’re right about how over-protective coaches are, but I don’t think it’s because they can’t trust their players, it’s because they can’t trust the officials.
The worst thing about the tourney for me is that one official can completely hijack your team’s season. (Watch that Cuse/OSU game).
November 29th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
I watched Karl Hess do that same shit to Tubby Smith two years in a row.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Unlike you, I think most NBA teams account for foreign players when they’re doing their drafting and whatnot.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
To be fair, the last time I looked DraftExpress had Plumlee somewhere around 7 or 8 iirc.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
I don’t see many 6’8″ centers shooting under 40% on wide open 18 footers in the NBA. I agree NBA bigs lack a postgame, but they aren’t totally incompetent.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
NCAA mens basketball is a 24 second shot clock away from being my favorite sport in a landslide.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
I’m in the minority but I like the longer shot clock in college, when you combine it with the shorter game clock, it makes each possession more meaningful.
The problem is in end of game situations, teams start fouling a lot earlier and the last 2 minutes can sometimes be brutal to watch. It happens in the NBA but not to the same extent.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I don’t think the players are skilled enough to handle that. You’d see teams jacking up garbage left and right. 30 seems good to me.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:21 PM
fixed
November 29th, 2012 at 2:23 PM
The players who were superstars in college but busts or role players in the NBA tells you all you need to know about the discrepancy in quality between the NBA and NCAA. If anything, the NBA has watered down it’s quality over the past few years implementing some of these NCAA and international rules in order to “brighten” up the game. The charge call is the worst call in basketball. It minimizes offensive skill by rewarding the lack of defensive skill.
November 29th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
I wouldn’t draft a tall white guy. I would have missed on D Love, but it’s just a rule I believe in.