Adderall, the NFL, and Me
I have used Adderall. I used it as an adult, with a prescription. So when I hear much of the talk this week about it in the NFL, it makes me realize just how little people know about a drug that has become a huge part of our society. National writers have made statements that at times have reflected a lack of knowledge of awareness of the issue.
Mike Tanier of Sports on Earth is not one of them. His article “Focus Group” comes as close to nailing the truth on the issue as you will get. Are there some players who have used Adderall as an excuse for something else, because the league cannot reveal the details? I suppose it is possible that it has happened. It’s also likely a very small majority of these cases. “The players aren’t taking the easy way out by admitting to Adderall abuse. We are taking the easy way out by disbelieving and trivializing their admissions,” writes Tanier.
To believe that these are excuses to cover up steroid use, is to vastly underestimate how prevalent the problem can be when the drug is abused, and to vastly underestimate the “performance enhancing” aspects it can provide for, say, a cornerback trying to stay focused on coverages and covering fast wide receivers and tendencies of quarterbacks.
What’s it like, Adderall? I can only speak from my personal experience.
It’s like, “Wow.”
It’s like glasses that bring everything into focus. I’ve had Lasik surgery as an adult after needing glasses or contacts since I was eight years old, and I’ve taken Adderall after finding out as an adult that I had attention-deficit disorder symptoms since before then. The effect was the same.
The impetus behind my discovery was the birth of my first child. I was the good kid. I wasn’t hyper or the raging out of control kid that would meet some stereotype that people probably have. I went through high school, and college, and law school, and got married. When my son was born, I was working at a law firm. When my life became more than just about me – when I had to budget my time to make sure he was to the daycare, and picked up, and that I was at home at a decent hour – I found out just how much I, and primarily others like my parents, friends, college roommates – had masked my inefficiencies. I couldn’t keep up with the losing and misplacing files or getting sidetracked anymore.
It took about 20 minutes for the therapist to get the picture, and confirm it with some tests. That would be the 20 minutes I was late for the first appointment after I spaced out and drove past the office. The past became clearer over time. The A+ I should have earned became an A- or B because I would lose an assignment or forget something. The dog never ate my homework, but it was often magically eaten by something never to appear again.
I tried something called Concerta. Didn’t seem to have much impact. We moved to Adderall. Instantaneously, it was like “Wow.”
Those cabinet drawers that I left open? That glob of jelly on the counter that I left behind while thinking about something else? That light bulb that had been burned out for weeks? Now, I noticed them. A million things around me came into focus. I was writing briefs and memos at work better than ever.
Fifty cups of coffee? I don’t know about that. I could have drank a boatload of coffee and Red Bull and other energy drinks, and all I would be is jittery. I do know that it replaced caffeine and I drank only water, because if I didn’t, man, I would be too wired. I was wired enough as it was. I lost weight not only because I cut out sodas, but because I would often forget to eat lunch because I was so focused on whatever I was working on.
I can imagine, then, why someone like a NFL cornerback would resort to something like this, if in fact any of them are consciously using it for performance enhancing on the field instead of just for the effect off of it. It brings things into focus. I wasn’t a different person. I was still me. I was just on. Didn’t miss as much, didn’t wander. If the game is 90% mental, then people should consider that taking Adderall can have just as big an impact on performance as adding a few pounds of muscle.
Of course, it’s not all positives. It can be abused. It can be addictive. You have to get a cardiac workup, and players that are sharing it without prescriptions could lead us to a Len Bias situation for Adderall. For me, I had a hard time sleeping at night. I was still on. That’s why you hear stories like Garrett Hartley, who claimed to have taken it to stay awake for a long drive. I would get so focused on things that I could not let go. I could always “hyper-focus” on things I enjoyed, but it intensified even more on Adderall. Staying up to play Civilization to wind down turned into six hours at the computer, and no sleep before returning to work. Many of the early football articles I wrote as a hobby were written in the middle of the night.
I haven’t taken Adderall in several years. I basically stopped when I began my meandering path from lawyer to writer, as I was also working on a variety of other techniques and learning about how to handle being me. On Adderall, I could be a lawyer, and perhaps I would still be on it if I remained a lawyer. The more important thing from that initial discovery, though, was to re-examine my life and what had always driven me.
Adderall has come back into my life with all of these recent NFL suspensions. I no longer need it, but it is still present. You, though, are my drug of choice now. Passion has replaced pharma. Doing what you love and what drives you is the best drug of all. NFL players who are engaging in illegal and risky behavior with Adderall need to realize that before it’s too late.
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November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
My step-daughter takes this. It did wonders for her. Nice job Lisk.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Lisk – Have you tried whiskey?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Oxford comma, nice. But shouldn’t it be “and I” since it leads into “have used Adderall”?
Sorry to pick nits, great post though.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Have you tried heroin?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Mike Tanier of Sports on Earth is not one of them. His article “Focus Group” comes as close to nailing the truth on the issue as you will get.
I read this this morning. It was outstanding. He’s also a super friendly guy on twitter.
I’ll now read this one, from a known druggie.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Oxford comma, nice. But shouldn’t it be “and I” since it leads into “have used Adderall”?
I don’t think so, since the Me is part of the title and describes the relationship. The first sentence then starts “I have used…”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Good post. What people fail to realize is that if you do not NEED it, it’s really just legal meth. It has the almost exact opposite effect on people that don’t need it vs people that do. They aren’t using it to “focus”, they are using it as an upper. Its sudafed, ephedra, etc. No different than using Bronkaid as a performance enhancer. It’s why a hugely disproportionate amount of athletes have “asthma.”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
You shouldn’t cast stones, amoeba flagellum boy.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
+1000
November 29th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Off topic, but Jerry Rice just said Drew Bree’s was an important player for the Saints tonite. Good job, good effort.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
Oxford comma, nice. But shouldn’t it be “and I” since it leads into “have used Adderall”?
Of course, grammatically, but when you are a writer, you can chose to be more “Roger and Me” and less “The King and I”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Where’s Duffy to tell us how the need for Adderall is fake, like other disorders?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Ah, I didn’t see the “I” because on my screen it is off to the right of the picture. I thought the title was a lead-in.
Eat a dick.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
great post, lisk.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Crazy, for years things would just disappear in my house, turns out I would absentmindedly pick something up leave it somewhere totally bizarre the second I picked up a second object. Hard to explain, first time I drove a car I didn’t realize I was driving until I was about 4 miles down the street. Constantly get lost, lose keys, wallets (when sober) and generally float along. Would never take anything though, doctors have suggested.
Seems to be sweet spot in terms of focus in booze, 99% of human tasks are mundane and simple.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I just wanted to make it shine Lisk, because I really enjoyed reading this.
I often have the moments that you described. For instance, left my phone at home today.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
this is a big problem…multiple marathon madden sessions in college during finals week. bad news.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Great post Lisk, you are a treat to read.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:38 AM
my take from this is that I need some Adderall, and now.
I’ll trade somebody for it. I’ve got Oxy.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Thanks for sharing this. Your experience clarified things greatly.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
The worst post/reasoning probably in this site’s history. And that’s saying a lot.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Well that’s a new one
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
I’m also surprised you didn’t link to Peter King’s tweet from last night that really crystallized the problem.
this one, since seemingly deleted by PK:
@SI_PeterKing: I’m told Adderall, in large doses, gives a high akin to cocaine.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Great post, Lisk. The entire piece mirrors much of my own life, although I went the Strattera route. Probably the most amazing thing I’ve experienced was when that switch was turned on. Holy. Shit. Cleaning one room completely, before moving on to the next? Who knew? Ultimately, I stopped taking it as it crushed my creativity that the ADD helped feed.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
adderall, 100% no doubt works…it has some serious drawbacks though, some which lisk highlighted, some he didnt.
if you have any hint of depression, it’d probably be wise to avoid using it daily. that voice in your head is impossible to ignore and it can take you to some seriously dark places…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
I have taken it for years. Since I was in 7th grade. It’s legalized speed. that’s why the Generic for is is “Amphetamine Salts” Parents don’t understand that. Dr’s don’t understand that….
The NFL Understands that and that’s why it’s banned.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
This happens to me constantly.
Coincidentally, I have a doctor’s appointment today regarding concentration, distractions and memory issues. For over a year I thought it was just because I juggle 20 different projects at one time. Recently, I’ve admitted there may be a larger problem. Nice post.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Also, how do none of these writers or reporters not know anything about it???? Are they really that F-ing dumb? Are they THAT detached from reality?
Reason # 1,000,000 I’ve become disinterested in sports. I just like making fun of idiot ESPN guys.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Well done, Lisk. Insightful.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Nicely done, Jason. I’m shocked we don’t see more baseball players getting busted for using this.
I could not believe he shared this.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Fricking ipad autocorrect
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
in college, my roommate and i once each took north of 120 mg’s of both regular and extended release adderall in an evening…it’s not nearly in that realm. cocaine is euphoric, this was more like your brain going 100mph while your body goes 60.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Why is it you never hear of women taking it??? Women are just more organized and detailed and guys just don’t give a Sh**
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
When this whole missing DA thing started, my doctor advised me to go off of Strattera in case any depression set in. Drugs that improve focus for you also increase the focus on the shitty stuff, creating the need for that little “may cause suicidal thoughts” warning.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Informative and well-written. You deserve a raise, sir.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Thanks for sharing your story. Don’t know if it is too personal to ask, but were you taking the time release adderall capsules, or the other kind (don’t know what those are called) ?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
The thing is though, everything Ive read this week, there were only ‘reports’ that the players would blame Adderall, with the actual players involved denying that. Sherman at least has denied it. Somehow there’s a report that this is what Cunningham was suspended for, yet he hasn’t said a word since the announcement. So not sure where these reports are coming from.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
Lots of kids in high school are taking it to cram for finals, LSATs, ACT, SAT, etc. Abuse will likely not apex for a while.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:47 AM
uh…i know five chicks that arent in college anymore who still take it. not sure where youre getting this data from.
adderall is totally abused by chicks as an appetite supressant and it lets them drink more on weekends. cmon.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
I am the king of completing 90 percent of a task then moving onto something else. I often wonder how the information age has impacted the way our minds are wired and process information. Having immediate access to almost anything at anytime feels like a breeding ground for ADD.
The stifling of creativity worries me provided I get put on similar medication.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
i got “diagnosed” from a family friend that is a psychiatrist. I had some syptoms of ADD but not enough. but i got adderall anyways. i used to take it only before big study sessions in college. the focus was awesome, but i hated the jittery sleep and coming down.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Okay.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
We talkin drugs?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
I know people that do this as well.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Exactly. Blame something that can’t be revealed as false due to privacy issues.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Sherman at least has denied it
browner’s totally reasonable claim is that they mixed his peepee with the Sherman’s peepee, and Sherman claims that he got roofied by a teammate.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:49 AM
Knew a girl in college who took it for this very reason for years. Was basically a stick figure zombie last time I saw her.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
Okay.
don’t act like you didn’t sploosh in your panties
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
awwwwwwwww!!
November 29th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
oh yea…it’s fucking horrible cuz you just cant drag yourself away or just focus on something else. your doc prolly made the rigth call. that is not a fun pit to be in.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Why is it you never hear of women taking it??? Women are just more organized and detailed and guys just don’t give a Sh**
Because the woman are already all jammed up on anti-depressants.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
He’s not lying. Crush up some 15mg pills and you can have a poor man’s 8 ball.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
it’s not a stifling of creativity, it’s more of a channelling it in an efficient manner.
obviously depends on the user, and all that, but on adderall, my mind seriously goes into overdrive. i cannot let a theme go until ive exhausted every single possibility of humor or awesomeness from it…prolly explains why im a total golf addict.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
I sniff glue to gain my focus.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Yall some junkies. Anyone get high on life any more?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
But he doesnt though. It first came out that he claims he drank a friend’s drink with crushed Adderall in it, yet he denied that he ever said this. So really it isn’t players coming out and saying the failed test was due to Adderall, it’s all unsubstantiated ‘reports’.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
snorting it sucks…i feel like it amplifies all the negative aspects of adderall and dilutes the good effects. thats just me tho.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Thanks for sharing your story. Don’t know if it is too personal to ask, but were you taking the time release adderall capsules, or the other kind (don’t know what those are called) ?
XR. one of the issues for people like me is remembering to take it, so the less times i had to remember whether i had taken one or not, the better.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Dude 120 mg? That’s INSANE. That amount alone would keep me up for a week straight, if not kill me. Key is to take 5 mg for 3-4 hours of serious concentration. 10 mg for a productive work day.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
It’s widespread. Check out the numbers in MLB. You’ll be shocked
I took it. Hated it. Scared me. Spence is right about dark places.
Rex is right about the clear-headed being weird. Negatively affected photographic memory, also. My job at the time was way too important for my memory to be dulled. Now I just live with the “disorder.” That sucks, too. I see all the signs in my 7 year old. I feel sorry what he’s gonna go through.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Fuck that. It’s too expensive.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
While we’re all in this “safe circle”, I feel compelled to tell you that it’s mostly because you’re a fucking dork, bro.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Female Kaiser would round up all the Adderral-addicted stick figure girls into….
/sunglasses
concentration camps
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
November 29th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
ive said this before…the perfect golf shot is the greatest high ive ever experienced. better than sex, weed, adderall, booze…you name it.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Adderall gets you as high as cocaine? Hmm, I’d like to test that theory out
November 29th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
The cereal? I didn’t know you could smoke that.
/Caplan’d
//Party Down’d
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
it really wasnt that bad. earlier in the day i got elbowed in the eye playing hoops and had a hueg black eye…all addy’d up i was spitting mad game and got a sympathy lay with this smokeshow blonde at TCU in FW that night.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
that i already knew.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
Good post Lisk.
So when are we getting the baseball HoF post?
November 29th, 2012 at 10:56 AM
anyone here ever smoked adderall?
/cant imagine it’s fun
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
/straps jew to lab table
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Meh, coke is way better than adderall for drinking purposes. With Adderall, you can be blacked out, but still acting like a fool because your brain is still awake/working. It’s much harder to black out on coke. I don’t buy the “if you don’t actually have ADD, it works differently” shit either. ANYONE can use it to focus and study, get shit done, etc.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
It’s like spence is the Bodie of an alternate Point Break.
“Spence is a real searcher.”
“What’s he searchin for?”
“The ultimate golf shot.”
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Lisk your ability to write thoughtfully, coherently, and honestly is what keeps me coming back to this place. Keep up the good work.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:57 AM
I’m so lazy and unmotivated though.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
it’s not a stifling of creativity, it’s more of a channelling it in an efficient manner.
obviously depends on the user, and all that, but on adderall, my mind seriously goes into overdrive. i cannot let a theme go until ive exhausted every single possibility of humor or awesomeness from it…prolly explains why im a total golf addict.
i think this is right, but also part of creativity/ADD is those random thoughts that bounce around. It might limit those if the focus becomes on one thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Golf lends itself to this. All that alone time. You have to be a little fucked up to try to get good.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Prescription drugs definitely scare me. I hate not feeling like myself. I even get freaked out when I take 2 Mucinex.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
that’s scarily accurate…
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Lisk – Have you tried whiskey?
uh, yeah. I’m from Missouri.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
I will 100% agree with you on the increase in game. Amazing how increased concentration/eye contact basically guarantees some action! (If they only knew it was artificial)
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Snorting anything sucks, but college was crazy like that.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Where’s Duffy to tell us how the need for Adderall is fake, like other disorders?
After his Rose Bowl post last year, he went on Adderall.
/Keeping this morning’s Round-Up relevant.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Also, if this hasn’t been said yet, Lisk you have lost all credibility with this one.
In truth, thanks for this. Had no clue what Adderall was or did before this post.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
We had a high school kid that got arrested after convincing some students that it was the same thing as the NZT pill from Limitless and selling them.
November 29th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
This is true of almost any drug, except anti-depressants.
Have you heard of cocaine?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Same. I take Ambien to sleep when necessary and it took almost a year of sleeping like ass to finally acquiesce to the prescription.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
What if you don’t know what you love or what drives you? Missing out on that awesome high then I guess.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Completely agree. For me, it turned off the faucet.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
So was this the stuff that Jessie Spano was taking when she was SO EXCITED?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Took Adderall once and hated it.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Do people really smoke pills? I thought I’d heard of everything.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Fantastic job Jason.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
yea man…sprinkle it on a blunt.
yall just need to smoke some tree to turn on that fire hose.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
9% have an exemption. Read about it yesterday at BP but I really thought it would be higher. The hand-eye effects alone. Not to mention knowing the strikezone and recognizing a pitch type faster.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Great post Jason.
I deal with this myself ever since I was prescribed Paxil for anxiety. The doc described me as “a 10/10″ for needing to be on meds.
Me before Paxil: thin, super motivated, detail oriented to a fault, never letting things get dirty, dusty, etc. Me after Paxil: Still effective, but certain tasks just seem to get left behind, less motivated, less demanding of self. I’ve still got a study that needs to be painted 3 years after I bought the paint.
I periodically debate on getting off any meds, but the anxiety before was excruciating.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
all this talk about side effects and depression? none of that shit with weed.
/legalize it more
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
She was on something akin to Nodos. She ruined Hot Sundae’s chances at hitting it big.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Got my first Addy script about 10 years ago – convinced the doctor I had ADD – partially true. Stopped getting them refilled about 7 years ago . Used to primarily use them for the following reasons:
1) Crush up – snort
2) Go out to bar – drink
3) Cure hangover the next morning
Nothing cures a hangover quicker than an Addy. Trust me.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Jason an honest piece like this is very brave. Respect.
/Yes. It was a good book because it was an honest book, and that’s what war does to men. And there’s nothing fine and noble about dying in the mud unless you die gracefully. And then it’s not only noble but brave.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Too many friends fucked over by pain pills that I don’t fuck with those.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
And then there are the side effects…
weight loss, weight gain, sexual overdrive, sexual underdrive…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
you know, when i was eating 100% clean, not drinking, not smoking, no dip, no caffeine…i was a fucking clear-headed animal.
all this shit plus stress in our lives plus not exercising at much leads to a hueg chemical imbalance in our bodies…bad news bears, but fuck exercise and eating right.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Bonghit + Chicken biscuit
November 29th, 2012 at 11:06 AM
For the record, I was able to be very productive while taking Addy’s too. Definitely have some positive effects. But for my level of ADD, I didn’t need them, and ended up abusing them more than I could use them for good.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:07 AM
This is a good first step, Jason. Everyone say hi to Jason.
*Hi Jason*
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
My experience – wake up at 6:30 am, have to be at work by 7, take an addy, drink a glass of water, bam! Good to go for at least 8 hours.
And yes, it does take away your appetite, hence the reason many lose weight while taking them
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
I am finding out about this now??
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
I love that movie, great to drink fancy style while watching.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
In baseball they had announced the greeenie ban well in advance so tons of guys had time to get their Adderall use approved before the ban and such.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Interesting. I’ve always been a firm believer in the vomit, bud, and time algorithm.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:10 AM
How does that compare to the general male population in that age range? Also, is the list of players on it available anywhere?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
Never mind, just found it in one of the articles: 4.4%
November 29th, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I love that movie, great to drink fancy style while watching.
Glen The Pseudo-Intellectual and Hemingway are all-time characters. I also loved how Rachel McAdams was a huge bitch in that movie. Made her even hotter.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
how does it affect memory though? to drop my internet tough guy/goof off personality for a bit, I feel like you wrote parts of the above post through my own eyes. part of my problem is a really, really shitty short term memory. it’s not because I don’t care about whatever it is I’m supposed to remember, I just start thinking about something else and forget. I forget a lot of small stuff. last night, I had two tasks before going to bed. drive to the gas station to fill up my wife’s car and then walk in and buy a half gallon of milk. the drive is 1.2 miles to the gas station. I get there and start filling up and thinking about how cold it is so I get back in the car to stay warm. the pump shuts off and I put the pump up, get my receipt, and drive off. I don’t even consider the milk until I wake up this morning and look in the fridge. I do shit like this ALL the time. it’s like if I don’t write down notes about every conversation or every task I need to do, I may forget altogether the conversation even happened until somebody asks me something as a follow up and I’m completely blank for a minute until a lightbulb comes on and I remember what we talked about and feel like shit for forgetting and not following up myself.
the part I’m worried abotu memory though is the longterm. my job requires years and years of repetition before it’s possible to become a technical expert. I almost feel it could be scary how good I’d be at this stuff if I could just remember short term things better. but I don’t want to benefit the short term focus at the expense of not retaining the experience from repitiion…does that even make sense?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
yes and your concerns are misplaced.
honestly, it sounds like youd be better off identifying how you operate and define your processes at work rather than taking a prescription.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Nothing cures a hangover quicker than an Addy.
Bacon would like a word.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Miz… good memory takes discipline. I have the same problem, but then again – rarely do I read a book (which helps discipline your mind), and I’m addicted to twitter – which kills short-term memory. I’m not assuming these are what cause your problem, just that’s usually what my problems are.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:15 AM
No.
/this is what we do here
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Damn. I posted my comment after reading just that first sentence. Didn’t realize the tone of the piece, so now I feel like a dick.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:16 AM
I find this to be true. Many of the addictions of those I know have emanated in part from boredom. A general discontent with their sober reality. This was a realization that got me to temper my pot smoking and start working out more, as a productive time-filler, if nothing else.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
It’s okay, bro. Nobody reads the posts. We’re just sharing based on our ADD-addled brains only seeing the word “Adderall”.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
I feel like people overestimate their issues sometimes. Hardly anyone has a photographic memory. A whole hell of a lot of people forget to do shit every single day. That’s why there are apps for lists/reminders. You dont always have to resort to drugs. Maybe try doing a daily brain teaser/puzzle?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Shit, this leads me to believe I need adderall. everything you said you did I do…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
/writes Tim Ryan a prescription for Adderall
November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
agree with a lot of this…my memory’s excellent despite the pot smoke because i obsess over my processes professionally and personally. its a lot easier to remember things when youve already thought about what/how to do ahead of time.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
My memory is very very good it’s just without cues I will wonder off on any tangent. Probably have 50 tabs going right now all with various things to do that I will each complete 10% of before bouncing around to something else. You know you have to set goals and routine but it just gets lost in the void 2 minutes later.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Oh I’ve taken my share of Addy. Lisk is right. “Wow”
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Most of you probably wouldn’t read this blog if you were taking addy’s. You’d be too focused/busy to think about wasting your time on here … lol
Addy’s make a person motivated to be productive.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
I know a guy that “forgets” to put on his belt, “forgets” to brush his teeth, “forgets” to shave. Seems like an excuse to be a lazy slob.
/team hygiene
November 29th, 2012 at 11:22 AM
certainly not eggnog and red gatorade. stupid moonshine.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Challenge your mind and body. Cut out the video games. Still having issues, go see a doctor. OBAMACARE BITCHES.
/has no idea about healthcare
//also Team Vitamins
November 29th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
If only Lisk could pull off a Diamond Cutter…..
November 29th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Ugh. I stupidly once drank milk then had to pull over on the way to work to puke. It had curdled in my stomach.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Wow, check out the drug slang coming from Mr. Drug Doer Hippie.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
My short term memory is ok but its my long term memory that is just awful. I can’t remember virtually anything from even just a few years ago. I’m probably on the fast track to alzheimers.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Miz, i’d go see a doctor. That guy in floriday got clawed up by his woman for 2nd rate sex. I can only imagine what a woman will do if you don’t forget to get the gallon of milk.
/assume your use of “fill up the tank” and “get some milk” were sexual metaphors
November 29th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
i myself have no issues. carry on
November 29th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Re: Ruined Kelly Kapowski’s opportunity to blow her way to super stardom.
/Team Carosi 4 eva
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
believe me, I don’t want to take a prescription. I know this is stupid because it sounds stupid in my brain right now but I’m going to type it anyways…I avoid taking any drugs (even over the counter drugs) and loathe getting sick because I feel it’s some kind of level of personal weakness. I don’t project that onto anyone else but myself…i.e. don’t feel that others are weak because they get sick, I only feel that way about myself for some odd reason. to be honest, I do not want to take a drug to fix a problem because it essentially admits a weakness. yes, very dumb mindset.
and I don’t think it’s a discipline issue either. I don’t think you can find anyone in my sphere of influence that would use “undisciplined” in a description of me. I just feel this haze or cloud sometimes when I’m trying to remember something that just happened.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Zach Attack was all just somebody’s dream, right?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Telling yourself that is your biggest issue.
/;
November 29th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
to be honest, I do not want to take a drug to fix a problem because it essentially admits a weakness. yes, very dumb mindset.
Disagree in that it’s a dumb mindset. I feel the same about sickness, although it is essentially unavoidable
November 29th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I can’t remember anyone’s name. Is there a mental exercise for that?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
1) thanks doctor
2) Actual photographic (eidetic memory) has only been diagnosed about once or twice in human history. I have “exceptional” memory and it’s virtually useless for things that are actual tasks, short term memory and long term memory are completely different brain functions. I can remember the positioning of a room I haven’t been in for twenty years down to the color of a cabinet, but I cannot for the life of me remember where I put my wallet each night.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
try picking some action you perform at work and then write down every single step you take to complete it…even the mundane ones like what folders you save doc’s to.
when i did something like this, it blew my mind how undisciplined and scatterbrained i really was, even tho i thought otherwise.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Totally agreed. People often have too much entitlement and ridiculous expectations, for a lot of reasons. Not a big fan of people obsessing over minor inadequacies/abnormalities. If you have a real problem, fix it, but shit has gotten to epidemic levels.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
what are those?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Yeah there probably is. I’m the worst at this. Meet someone, shake their hand, forget there name in .5 seconds. Even someone who I’ve known their name, and maybe haven’t seen them in a while, I’ll recognize their face but cannot match a name to it. Oh well.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
it doesn’t help that my daily reference point (wife) is a type A genius with a photographic memory.
I forget to use the list tools.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Yeah. Just Zack’s. Such an ambitious little preppie.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
That sounds terrible, I enjoy a nice hazy existence. Who the hell wants to remember everything.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
troof. i have like 15 visene containers floating around my living room with eye drops still in them because i always forget where i put em.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Are you quoting DeNiro’s character from Meet the Parents? Didn’t he say Focker was weak for smoking?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
CJ, were you a dork in high school?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
what are those?
Pop? Cokes?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Haha. Yes. That would get annoying, wouldn’t it.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Enough of that time-lapse bullshit too. Who came up with that shit?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
No, I watch The Doctors.
/Travis Stork is dreamy
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
I’ll do that. thanks.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Agreed that you should smoke weed and play video games.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
/;
well, ok ONE
November 29th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Helluva a post, Jason. I knew people used this for study cramming sessions in college but I don’t think I quite understood the nature of the drug. Thankfully, I’ve never needed anything like that for focus.
/continues to procrastinate on current project due tomorrow
November 29th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
No doubt. When I took my Master’s comps I didn’t study until the day before and just found and empty classroom and wrote an outline of the two years of shit on the chalkboards, took pictures of it, printed them out, looked at them a few times and went to sleep. Passed with distinction. And yet, I’ve lost probably thirty chapstick tubes in my life.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
likewise, only i did that with jazz solos i needed to transcribe and play along with for improv classes and juries. would just listen to the song over and over and over and over again until i could hear it in my brain, and then transcribing it probably took 3 hours total. ppl used to drive themselves nuts over transcriptions…great memory is one helluva advantage.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Only 30? I feel like I used to lose one a week back in college. Every time I was in the grocery store, I’d buy another one in anticipation. I’ve gotten better but I still lose a fair number.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
i was sick of losing pens, pencils, lighters, etc…so i just became a nazi about using things until they’re completely used up. used the same dr grip pen and PhD refillable pencil my entire college career.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
troof. i have like 15 visene containers floating around my living room with eye drops still in them because i always forget where i put em.
Why, oh why I wonder, could you possibly have a shitty memory.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
dude, i have a great memory. visine is not worth keeping mental track of.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
They put me on Adderall when I was a kid but nothing really changed. Turns out I am just really lazy.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
when I took my licensing exam a month back, I walked out and couldn’t remember one single fucking question that I’d answered but all these other guys were discussing “what did you do for this or that?.” two days later, 16 hours of exam problems are rolling through my head like I was reading them again right in front of me.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
dude, i have a great memory. visine is not worth keeping mental track of.
Oh really? What color tie am I wearing?
/turns around and starts fumbling with tie while spencer thinks
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
like all texans, you’re wearing a bolo tie.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Brownest of the brown liquors.
Speaking of tests, just got my civil service exam score back, that was the oddest test I’ve taken in my life.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
/kicks rock
November 29th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Damn. I posted my comment after reading just that first sentence. Didn’t realize the tone of the piece, so now I feel like a dick.
Now maybe you get why I am a cat person. Cats don’t pee on the rug when you forget to let them out. Wait, what’s that on the carpet?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
Great piece, Lisk. One question, if it’s not impertinent, did you ever feel that your use of Adderall was getting away from you?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Yeah. Just Zack’s. Such an ambitious little preppie.
Except for the time they were the doowop group The Five Aces.
And Re: Lisk’s piece…wonderful stuff. Well written and easy to read. Since we’re all opening up: I’m currently on Lexipro. I’m supposed to be getting tested for chronic depression and PTSD at some point in the near future. TMI? Eh, we’re all friends here on the internet…
November 29th, 2012 at 11:54 AM
I assume you did well? In what way(s) was it odd?
November 29th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
not lisk, but no…never felt mine was getting away from me.
November 29th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I got a 91 (I think it’s out of 100 it doesn’t actually say) and placed 4th out of 28 in the county but it was weird in that there were parts where you have to correct grammar and punctuation in sentences but then there were errors in the questions themselves. Was just a sloppy test. Also weird in that for the employment discrimination questions they use hilarious racial scenarios such as a guy singing “Kung Fu Fighting” at a woman and doing “karate moves.”
November 29th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Great piece, Lisk. One question, if it’s not impertinent, did you ever feel that your use of Adderall was getting away from you?
Getting away, no. I did it for like two years. I never had the urge to consciously take more than the recommended dose. The sleep issue, and that I was actually more Type A than I wanted to acknowledge were my issues. Without it, I don’t notice the half full cups and dishes. On it, I was a cleaning machine. You would think my wife would have liked that but she doesn’t want me back on it.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Fantastic article. Well done.
I’ve always wanted to try it recreationally to see if it’ll really help in my work life. I have a hard time staying focused on everything I need to focus on.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
how does it affect memory though? to drop my internet tough guy/goof off personality for a bit, I feel like you wrote parts of the above post through my own eyes. part of my problem is a really, really shitty short term memory. it’s not because I don’t care about whatever it is I’m supposed to remember, I just start thinking about something else and forget. I forget a lot of small stuff. last night, I had two tasks before going to bed. drive to the gas station to fill up my wife’s car and then walk in and buy a half gallon of milk. the drive is 1.2 miles to the gas station. I get there and start filling up and thinking about how cold it is so I get back in the car to stay warm. the pump shuts off and I put the pump up, get my receipt, and drive off.
This is me, dude. I have “selective hearing” also. My wife is always telling me that she already told me something, and I have zero recollection. We actually instituted a rule in the house. If Daddy is on the computer, any permission you get from him is invalid and you will be punished if you follow through. The kids no that they can come to me and ask for a snack and I don’t even know it.
Also, I can’t even count on both hands all the times i have pre-paid for gas because I wanted to go in and get a drink, and then just climbed in and drove off without actually putting gas in.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
WOW.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
This is how Craig James is, but with killing hookers.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
I read that in the voice of Roger Myers Jr reacting to Abe Simpson tell him he worked as a night watchman at a cranberry silo for forty five years.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
I read that in the voice of Roger Myers Jr reacting to Abe Simpson tell him he worked as a night watchman at a cranberry silo for forty five years.
“I actually wrote a thesis at Harvard on life experience”.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Dude, this is everybody.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Also, I can’t even count on both hands all the times i have pre-paid for gas because I wanted to go in and get a drink, and then just climbed in and drove off without actually putting gas in.
My wife has gone a step further a bunch of times. Started the pump. Gone in for a soda came out and forgottent to take the hose out before leaving.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
*something something Spence’s mom*
November 29th, 2012 at 12:16 PM
/ Team Single
November 29th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
MY LIPS HURT REAL BAD!
November 29th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
I have been prescribed to it for a few years as an adult for pretty much the same reasons. I don’t take it very often any more but I still collect my prescription because it’s really valuable when you need it; the morning after a late night, drinking all day, etc etc. My wife takes it weekly and I have friends who also find great use in it. For the normal person, it can make you extremely active/productive, but the activity has to be focused by you. I’ll read half the internet in 2 hours one morning, while accomplishing little to nothing at work. Also, it makes me so fucking SWEATY.
November 29th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
because women lie and don’t really tell you the things that they claim they did.
/snorts Adderral
November 29th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Question for those who have struggled with Adult ADD – did you also experience any physical systems prior to diagnosis/medication?
November 29th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
This is how Craig James is, but with killing hookers.
This explains so much! He might not have even killed them on purpose, just put them in the trunk and then forgot. Next time he goes to put a hooker in the trunk, “Oh, dear, what have I done? Get in there.”
November 29th, 2012 at 1:19 PM
You, sir, have the boorish manners of a Yalie!
/might not be exact, memory ain’t that good anymore after all the drugs
November 29th, 2012 at 1:27 PM
As someone diagnosed with ADD (as an adult in the late 90s) I appreciated your thoughtful article on the subject of Adderall in general, and how it might relate to NFL players. Among other important points, you illustrated how the diagnosis itself is a key part of the treatment for the condition, and that some with AD/HD do quite well without medication.
My problem with the article, however, is that, wittingly or unwittingly, it presents and perpetuates a classic false equivalency between the countless benefits of Adderall and the potential dangers – ones inherent in many prescription drugs. Full disclosure: I’ve taken Adderall for years. I credit it for quickly enabling me, a bartender and long-time college dropout when diagnosed, to complete my undergraduate work then earn a master’s degree from Harvard University.
As a quick “for example,” whenever I hear of Adderall’s addictive potential I always think of the main problem I and many like me have with the drug – remembering to take it! Last I checked, forgetting a substance was not a big criterion for addiction. In truth, clinically speaking, Adderall is safer than aspirin. This fact is seldom if ever mentioned, whereas the “dangers” always are.
Of course Adderall is sometimes, perhaps often, abused. But this doesn’t diminish its potential benefits for those who truly need it. Overemphasizing Adderall’s dangers and potential for addiction not only stigmatizes a safe and excellent medication, but also the millions who legitimately rely on it.
Finally, for what it’s worth, I would like to say that of all the benefits I gain from this medication (too numerous to mention in this format) none appears to be at all relevant to my physical abilities. True, I am no professional athlete. But as an inveterate, compulsive runner and gym rat, I would expect I’d have noticed any boost. If only!
Keep up the good work. I look forward to following your sports writing more closely in the future.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:36 PM
I’m actually taking adderall for finals week. I think 80% of the people I know in college take it to gain an advantage.
/maybe it’s a ucf thing.
November 29th, 2012 at 1:41 PM
I know one thing and one thing only for sure in this life: if Adderall had been around when I was young, I would have definitely crushed it up and snorted it in the bathroom at my high school.
November 29th, 2012 at 5:14 PM
If they are being suspended for positive ampethtamine test it’s it could be a fail for ecstasy that the players or agents are blaming on adderall to make it seem less negative. Listen to any rap song out right now Molly is the new thing for them.
November 29th, 2012 at 6:33 PM
These positive drug tests for amphetamines take 6-8 weeks to come back from the lab…these guys were all popping pills to go out and party durning training camp. Also, a bunch of drug abusers on this comment section.
November 29th, 2012 at 8:49 PM
I used to snort addies and try to have crazy sex with my girlfriend. It was wild. I recommend it to everyone.
December 2nd, 2012 at 4:00 PM
They made Ambien for people on Adderall to sleep bro!