Notre Dame’s Strong Defense Makes Them a Live Dog in Any BCS Title Game Scenario
Notre Dame fans would like to remind you that exactly one decade ago, many of the same things that are being said about the 2012 Irish were being written about the Ohio State Buckeyes. That Ohio State team went undefeated to reach the BCS Championship Game, where it entered as sizable 13-point underdogs to defending champion Miami.
If Notre Dame wins on Saturday at USC, it will likely play the SEC Champion, and if it is defending champion Alabama, the point spread will be around 9 points to open according to one linesmaker. Linesmaker Jimmy Vaccaro said he would open it at 10.5 or 11, and expect it to get to 13. That would provide perfect symmetry for the Notre Dame fans wanting to draw parallels to Ohio State in 2002.
If Notre Dame gets to that game, though, recent history would suggest that they have a much better shot than those odds would suggest. Sports-Reference.com/college football has historical ratings for previous years. Not only are the teams rated, though. You can look at breakdowns by offense and defense in terms of points and points allowed, schedule adjusted. Notre Dame is a +2.2 on offense but a +16.5 on defense. That offensive rating is barely above average for FCS, which for a championship caliber team is poor. The defense, on the other hand, ranks very highly compared to past contenders.
I went back and pulled all other teams that were worse than a +5.0 on offense, but better than a +12.0 on defense in the BCS era. (Alabama and Florida also apply this year). Fifteen prior teams meet those criteria.
Nine of them entered the bowl game as an underdog. The six favorites went 5-1 straight up, but only 2-4 against the spread. The underdogs, though? They still went 6-3 straight up, and were an amazing 8-1 against the spread. The only loss was Ohio State in the 2007 BCS title game to LSU, when they lost as a 4 point underdog.
Here are the nine other defensively skewed bowl teams that entered bowl games as underdogs since 1998 (All coincidentally in BCS Bowls except one Cotton Bowl):
- Ohio State 2009 (+4) vs. Oregon in Rose Bowl, Won 26-17
- Ohio State 2008 (+9) vs. Texas in Fiesta Bowl, Lost 24-21
- Ohio State 2007 (+4) vs. LSU in BCS Title Game, Lost 38-24
- Alabama 2005 (+3.5) vs. Texas Tech in Cotton Bowl, Won 13-10
- Virginia Tech 2004 (+7) vs. Auburn in Sugar Bowl, Lost 16-13
- Miami 2003 (+1.5) vs. Florida St. in Orange Bowl, Won 16-14
- Ohio State 2002 (+13) vs. Miami in Fiesta Bowl/BCS Championship, Won 31-24 (OT)
- Wisconsin 1998 (+9) vs. UCLA in Rose Bowl, Won 38-31
- Texas A&M 1998 (+12) vs. Ohio State in Sugar Bowl, Lost 24-14
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November 21st, 2012 at 3:27 PM
What are the scenarios where ND gets in even with a loss this weekend?
November 21st, 2012 at 3:27 PM
Fixed.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:28 PM
Isn’t this a huge wildcard, as you can’t draw the same parallels if two such teams face each other, as you can if they face the rest of the field?
November 21st, 2012 at 3:29 PM
Isnt this the game that was given to OSU after a horrible PI call?
November 21st, 2012 at 3:30 PM
A Notre Dame would make my year.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:31 PM
And yet even with all that game tape available the Bears still took Cade McNown in the first round
November 21st, 2012 at 3:33 PM
Was that the game where JJ Stokes was unstoppable? Man, memories.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:34 PM
Very noticable. Instead of the “Holy Buckeye” incident, I think the Pitt PI call works.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:35 PM
Or the officials not throwing a flag on the FG in OT with 2 of the same number jerseys out there.
Or the non TD call in OT against Stanford
/Fuck ND
November 21st, 2012 at 3:35 PM
I’m not touching that one anymore. But Miami played a horrible game, a lot of bad turnovers. And yes OSU played good defense. As we all know when a favored team gives the ball up, anything can happen.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:36 PM
No, that 1994 when legendary coke fiend Brent Moss claimed the MVP…who knows, we could be looking at Wisconsin-UCLA III in this year’s Rose Bowl that nobody wants to watch
November 21st, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I thought Ken Dorsey was gonna be a decent NFL Qb too…
November 21st, 2012 at 3:36 PM
I will forgive this year, forgive losing $50 if Lady Of Lake’s dream season gets destroyed by their bitter rival, make it all worth while.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:37 PM
Oh yeah. Thanks.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Conference restructuring and championship games have made the Rose Bowl shit now.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:42 PM
Getting drafted onto shitty teams and then picked up by another shitty team gave him no chance.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:44 PM
he was just a shitty pro QB
November 21st, 2012 at 3:44 PM
The Kellen Moore of his era, no great shame in that
November 21st, 2012 at 3:45 PM
That OSU team had like 20 future NFL players on it, had a great coach and went against a feeble-minded Larry Coker who did poor game-planning.
/Mo Clarett stripped that ball from Sean Taylor on that run-back. Awesome.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:46 PM
/Dantonio’d
November 21st, 2012 at 3:48 PM
This argument is fundamentally flawed. It works great with the NFL where there is some parody. Not in the NCAA where there is none and ND can dominate bad comp.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:49 PM
There’s probably 5 people on the blog right now with a better arm than Dorsey. Smart player, good player, noodle-armed.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:50 PM
Agreed that Kellen Moore being on an NFL roster makes a parody of the quarterback position
November 21st, 2012 at 3:51 PM
The defensive stunts D’Antonio installed in the lead-up to that game were amazing. Clarett, Winslow, McGahee, Will Smith, Andre Johnson, Gamble, Sean Taylor – that game was absurd with talent.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:52 PM
Ya know, I am personally surprised that the Giants D-Line never did a Call Me Maybe parody.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:54 PM
Winslow is one of the biggest disappointments when it comes to the NFL. I thought that dude would dominate for years.
/Im A Soldier!
November 21st, 2012 at 3:54 PM
This is ripe for parody. This is ripe!
November 21st, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Getting on a motorcycle was a mistake.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Agreed. But there have been shitty QBs that were at least a starter for a season or so.
Game-planning maybe, lack of mental focus definitely. Miami did not match Ohio State’s level of intensity, they thought they had it in the bag before the game started.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:58 PM
Damn. And this is after he suffered a broken fibula 2 games into his 2004 rookie season and was out for the year.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
and Norv Turner is still a head coach. go figure.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
True, the staph infection and getting drafted by Cleveland…not his fault.
November 21st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
November 21st, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Notre Dame has played 1 top 50 offense this season.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:00 PM
Damn, he fought off staph infections in 2005 and 2008. Shit.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:00 PM
And later developed Staph infection.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:01 PM
injuries have been the downfall of many hurricane TEs. Shockey being as injury prone as he was constantly derailed his production. he was a tough sonovabitch, but dude just couldn’t get it done being as hurt as often as he was.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Don’t ruin a good story.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:01 PM
Charlie Frye!!!
November 21st, 2012 at 4:02 PM
Did Winslow develop a staph infection? thought I heard that…
November 21st, 2012 at 4:02 PM
As was claiming to single handedly take out a al-Queada stronghold, or whatever he said.
/Pro Combat for everyone!
November 21st, 2012 at 4:02 PM
while this may be true, they made sure those shitty offenses didn’t have a better than average day.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:03 PM
yeah he was trying these tricks where you do a wheelie on the front wheel and picking up the back end. Lost control, went into a curb, and then rocketed into some landscaping, some shrub went through his knee.
the staph infections, well, they certainly didnt help.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Does Jimmy Graham count as a Miami TE?
November 21st, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Bubba Franks was tits at catching the uncovered one-yard TD
November 21st, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Oh, I didnt realize he now plays for nobody. So Winslow is out of the league at the moment.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:03 PM
+1 nightclub victory party flyer.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:04 PM
a sad note of irony his Winslow’s dad kept him out of football until his jr year of high school to reduce the wear and tear on his body and reduce the risk of injury.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:06 PM
in the nfl, winslow got called for at least one shove-off a game. killed many a drive.
/insane hands though
November 21st, 2012 at 4:06 PM
He asked for a release from New England. In hindsight, not very bright.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Not to mention, he refused to block anybody.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:07 PM
Winslow sounded like the typical young athlete that thought he was invincible. Sad.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:07 PM
November 21st, 2012 at 4:08 PM
I remember seeing him drop a lot of passes in the NFL as well. Passes that would hit him right in the hands.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:08 PM
/blockquote fail
November 21st, 2012 at 4:10 PM
Why the fuck wouldn’t he? He played TE at Miami.
He got it done against Peyton and in 2001 so that’s all good for me.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:11 PM
I ended up standing next to him in the weight room my freshman year. I felt quite the skinny white boy.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:12 PM
I thought that was Tracy Porter?
November 21st, 2012 at 4:14 PM
NCAA investigating Auburn yet again…
November 21st, 2012 at 4:14 PM
A shame they’ll be in the Fiesta Bowl.
Alabama vs. Florida. Miami.
GO GATORS!!!
November 21st, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Go Gators?
Go Gata!
November 21st, 2012 at 4:17 PM
I will rub neked parts with Corrine Brown from here to tomorrow if we make the BCS Championship Kip. First. Beat Noles.
November 21st, 2012 at 4:18 PM
Isn’t Florida just Notre Dame with an even worse offense?
November 21st, 2012 at 4:20 PM
The correct answer is no offense. And I’ll have you know our defense is like 100 times awesomer than theirs.
November 21st, 2012 at 5:24 PM
They’ve played two. Oklahoma (32) and Miami (45).
And Alabama is ranked 40th.
November 23rd, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Well, he can barely physically compete anymore, so actually a pretty smart decision