The Knicks Are 6-0. Who is Ready for Some Amare Stoudemire Trade Talk?
The Knicks moved to 6-0 with an impressive road win over San Antonio, 104-100. They did it despite an off-night from Melo (three baskets, two turnovers, nine points), 25 points from Raymond Felton, and mostly thanks to their greatest new strength: defense. Two years ago, the Knicks gave up 105.7 ppg, which was 28th in the NBA. Last year, the addition of Tyson Chandler was crucial: They permitted 94.7 ppg (11th). This year? Another leap – 89.8 ppg, 2nd best in the league.
I don’t know if it is a cause for celebration (76 games left!) but it is a reason to begin to feel optimistic about the season. I’ve been slow to fall back in love with the Knicks, a team I’ve rooted for since 1985, following the Jeremy Lin debacle. One of the reasons? I know Amare Stoudemire is going to return from injury and completely change the team. Through six games, the Knicks are averaging a league-low 9.7 turnovers per game. What they’ve got right now clearly is working. Nobody’s expecting a 60-win season, but what if this play through six games continues through, say, 20 games? Then what?
No knees Stoudemire currently has the worst contract in the league, and it probably is immovable. Back in May we looked and possible trade ideas for the Knicks, but two of those players (Johnson, Okafor) have already been dealt. When Amare returns, Mike Woodson will be faced with daunting questions: Can you have a guy making $19.9 million come off the bench (I say yes)? Can Amare play in the same frontcourt as Chandler and Melo (I say no)? In what scenarios can you play him? And if you don’t give him minutes, how long before the New York media begins to goad him into saying something that might wreck the team chemistry?
The Knicks visit a hot Memphis team tonight, but then play slumping Indiana, young New Orleans and lottery-bound Dallas before the big showdown with Jeremy Lin in Houston on the 23rd. They close out the month with Detroit, Brooklyn, Milwaukee and Washington, and sure, 13-2 (or even 14-1 if you think the Bucks are a fortunate 5-2) is beginning to look possible.
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November 16th, 2012 at 1:49 PM
following the Jeremy Lin debacle
The Knicks moved to 6-0
?
November 16th, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Well this is just good stuff.
November 16th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
Amare for Maxiel, Charlie V and Stuckey
November 16th, 2012 at 1:57 PM
I’ve been slow to fall back in love with the Knicks, a team I’ve rooted for since 1985, following the Jeremy Lin debacle.
I don’t remember the Jeremy Lin debacle of 1985. Please, regale us.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
The title of the first video is outstanding.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Isn’t it weird that this terrible contract with a guy that was already a huge injury risk turned out to be horrible?
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
BOOM. DO IT NOW JOE D!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:03 PM
amare for lebron
no, bosh
no, bozer
no, lin
no, howard
no, durant
no, westbrook
November 16th, 2012 at 2:05 PM
Pau for Amare straight up…a Nash/D’Antoni/Stoudemire reunion.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:06 PM
My trade works. Knicks could just buy out Charlie V next year and they would just be on the hook with Stuckey for a couple years.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:07 PM
“It looks like we got on the bandwagon….”
/puts on sunglasses
“In the ‘Knick’ of time.”
/YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:12 PM
When Amare returns, Mike Woodson will be faced with daunting questions: How will I coach the Hawks from New York?
Sorry, had to
November 16th, 2012 at 2:15 PM
Amare coming off the bench might be a plus if they can convince him to, instead of trading him for scrap. They’re not going to get consistent offense out of Wallace, Camby, and Thomas. Amare and JR would be solid offense coming off the bench. If he can go from being a horribly inept defender to a slightly below average one, even better.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:17 PM
I wanna know if Knick fans would do this trade.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:20 PM
SINGLER TIME!
November 16th, 2012 at 2:25 PM
it kills me that Mitch Albom earnestly throws around terms like “geek” or “nerd,” as though he’s some paragon of coolness or manliness. it’s not like he’s an Army Ranger or a logger or something. he hangs out in press boxes and writes soft-focus Lifetime shit like Tuesdays With Morrie.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:40 PM
Hell no
November 16th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
He’s starting tonight.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:42 PM
That is absolutely spot on. Same goes for Shaughnessy that ugly ass fuck
November 16th, 2012 at 2:45 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/not/index.php/a-college-professor-grades-mitch-alboms-latest/
Well this is just good stuff.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:48 PM
That is absolutely spot on.
No it isn’t. Album doesn’t even go to pressboxes. He got in serious shit for sending in a story pretending to be at a game he left before it started. In pressboxes, you have columnists that show up and make a big stink and engage everybody and blabber the whole time, bitch about the courtesy food/coffee. These guys are hated. Then there are columnists who show up rarely but still enough to keep contacts and show they respect the beat guys. Press areas have their own pecking order and culture and guys like Albom are the worst.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:51 PM
That cracked me up. This definitely falls under my policy of I dont want to hear from any DET or LAA fans about the MVP vote.
If Albom wrote for the OC Register (I think that’s a real paper?) or whatever LAA paper there is, would he have written exactly the opposite? There is an argument to be made for each, but the argument has to be consistent.
If I say Cabrera > Trout, I have to say playoffs matter, Sep matters more than other months etc, while acknowledging Trout had better WAR or whatever stats there are. I can’t say “WAR is crap, Cabrera wins” if I’d say “Trout should win b/c higher WAR” if I lived in Anaheim.
/if that makes any sense at all
//it doesn’t
November 16th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
Ah very true. Fuck him. That was the MSU Final Four story if I’m not mistaken.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
There was no “Jeremy Lin debacle”. Dolan got rid of him at the right time, and now he’s being exposed as one of the worst point guards in the league.
No way the Knicks are 6-0 with him constantly turning the ball over, along with the Tebow-like circus that follows him.
Its a debacle that people keep bringing up the “Jeremy Lin debacle” in reference to the Knicks. It should only be applied to the Rockets.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:53 PM
I imagine it’s hard to have a platform, without developing a certain arrogance/ego.
I see it in Reilly/Simmons, and some people who have been here longer probably see it in TBL et al. When you have that many people who take time to seek out you/your opinion, you start to think YOU are the story, not the story itself. What turned me off of Simmons was he stopped writing about the sports as much as just started to fit everything into his own world, revolving around his paradigm for sports, etc.
November 16th, 2012 at 2:58 PM
WWOS that’s why his deadline/reaction pieces are best and he largely cant write well anymore outside of a mailbox. He does the mailboxes just enough to keep his brand alive. You cant write as infrequently as he does and keep your fastball.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:05 PM
I’ll defend JMac here. He’s an Asian-American and a Knicks fan, hard to not let emotions rule the day sometimes. We give black writers a pass for openly cheering for Tiger Woods.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:13 PM
Understood, but isn’t Tiger a Cablinasian?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:15 PM
Fuck Simmons and his stupid ass rules of sports and I should be the GM of so and so, “Who Wouldn’t Want that?!”
November 16th, 2012 at 3:19 PM
For the first time in his career, Amar’e will be playing for a coach that demands defense from him. He’ll be fine. Even in the game last night, there was a large portion of the 4th quarter where Chandler wasn’t in the game, so he’ll be able to flow from the 4 to the 5 with no problem.
doubled and tripled the entire night, no forced shots (as evidenced by the 12 shot attempts), 12 rebounds, 3 assists, and a bunch of hockey assists as a result of not forcing those shots that had Sean Elliott raving. Just to set it straight.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:20 PM
Lin has less turnovers per game than most PG’s in the league including rondo, deron, jennings, westbrook, and parker. Not sure if he’s a disaster in Houston averaging 7 assists and 2.5 turnovers a game, but whatever.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:23 PM
I got the Grizz. Jason, let’s match it up, brotha. I look forward to this one.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:24 PM
one of them is one of the very best to ever play in his sport. The other is a one armed bandit who had 15 minutes of fame, and is being exposed in his sport at the very moment. He was also let go by the Knicks and replaced by a superior player.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:26 PM
so based on your statement, is your conclusion that Jeremy Lin is better than those players? Are the Spurs willing to take a call from Houston in which they take Lin for Parker? Is Boston willing to take that call just because Lin has fewer turnovers per game?
November 16th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
We give black writers a pass for openly cheering for Tiger Woods.
I think that ship sailed a long, long, long, long, long, LONG time ago.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:27 PM
He’s an Asian-American
Um, no.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:30 PM
Whatever, indeed. He’s averaging 6.1 assists, btw, and shooting a stellar .353. Who wouldn’t want an $8 million/year guard who can’t buy a hoop?
Have you watched any Houston games? Lin’s turnovers are down because the coaches make sure he doesn’t handle the ball much. He’s getting paid to essentially bring the ball up and hand it to Harden.
Given the expectations for this season, and his contract, I’d say his Houston tenure has been a debacle.
November 16th, 2012 at 3:39 PM
Lin will end up being a serviceable PG, but way overpaid. Knicks were right in not signing that contract. The Rockets can take solace in the fact that he won’t nearly be as overpaid as Landry Fields.