Comments on: Canada: Punt Returner Punts Ball, Team Recovers for a Touchdown

By: WheresWallace

WheresWallace — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:05:43 +0000

why would there be zero chance of beating defenders to a kicked ball in the secondary? They’re chasing you, and you kick the ball ( a la rugby) and you know where it’s going.
Or, you could kick it, and have a trailing teammate chase it down or something.

True. Didn’t think about that. I was thinking more the safety would have a huge head start on the ball. But not always the case obviously.

By: ms621

ms621 — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:36 +0000

3. No Gus Johnson

Racist.

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:27 +0000

Is Chase Thomas a prospect for Stanford? Just saw a post about the game tomorrow, and all I remember from the UO/SU game last year was him cheating inside as an end on every fucking play, and the Oregon back running clear to the outside. He gave them the edge all 2nd half. I don’t think this game will be very close.

By: ms621

ms621 — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:02:02 +0000

Didn’t you hear, it’s all about Bayes facotrs and likelihood ratios… p-values are old news, because they refer only to false-positive rates on null data.

My cat’s breath smells like cat food.

By: KC Resident

KC Resident — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:01:29 +0000

Would anyone make any drastic changes to (NFL) football if they could?

1. Fewer tv timeouts
2. Shorter reviews
3. No Gus Johnson

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:58:50 +0000

Would anyone make any drastic changes to (NFL) football if they could? Drop kicks, recovering punts, rounder balls etc?

By: PeerLessPrices

PeerLessPrices — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:58:45 +0000

Good friend from home played for a college that played the team where I went. They get made fun of a lot, but those dudes are warriors. The hits I saw from that one match alone. Guy separated his shoulder and just got up like nothing

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:57:30 +0000

I believe that was an extra point. I’m talking about running a regular offensive play, advancing the ball and then drop kicking a field goal before being tackled.

I think it’d be worth 3 if you do it during a timed down, right?

Going to need to see some p-factor figures before I believe your argument.

Didn’t you hear, it’s all about Bayes facotrs and likelihood ratios… p-values are old news, because they refer only to false-positive rates on null data.

By: Clayton Cargill

Clayton Cargill — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:54:54 +0000

Like rugby

exactly. That’s exactly like rugby. And rugby is awesome.

By: ms621

ms621 — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:54:33 +0000

So it’s no benefit at all really.

Going to need to see some p-factor figures before I believe your argument.

By: Clayton Cargill

Clayton Cargill — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:54:09 +0000

Of course there’s almost zero chance you would get the ball after punting a completion,

why would there be zero chance of beating defenders to a kicked ball in the secondary? They’re chasing you, and you kick the ball ( a la rugby) and you know where it’s going.

Or, you could kick it, and have a trailing teammate chase it down or something.

By: KC Resident

KC Resident — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:53:05 +0000

I believe that was an extra point. I’m talking about running a regular offensive play, advancing the ball and then drop kicking a field goal before being tackled.

Like rugby

By: Garland Greene

Garland Greene — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:42:40 +0000

Didn’t the Hoodie have Doug Flutie do that?

I believe that was an extra point. I’m talking about running a regular offensive play, advancing the ball and then drop kicking a field goal before being tackled.

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:40:56 +0000

From the ESPN article

The ball was more round until 1934, making the bounce more predictable. And the rules were changed to require the kicker to be behind the line of scrimmage, relegating the drop kick to a riskier version of a place kick or extra point.
The drop kick remains in the NFL’s official rule book, even though it hadn’t been successfully converted in decades. Rule 3, Section 8 defines the drop kick as “a kick by a kicker who drops the ball and kicks it as, or immediately after, it touches the ground.”

So it’s no benefit at all really.

By: RexKramerDangerSeeker

RexKramerDangerSeeker — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:39:51 +0000

Didn’t the Hoodie have Doug Flutie do that?

Yup. Converted an extra point.

By: Wide Word of Sport (?)

Wide Word of Sport (?) — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:38:24 +0000

weird rule about being able to drop-kick field goals mid-play

Didn’t the Hoodie have Doug Flutie do that?

By: Garland Greene

Garland Greene — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:34:38 +0000

We did this a couple of times when I played in high school. There’s also some kind of weird rule about being able to drop-kick field goals mid-play. I have to look it up.

By: Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom

Eric T0upal aka BrawnyTom — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:32:42 +0000

So is this Soccer Baseball?

By: WheresWallace

WheresWallace — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:32:06 +0000

Deadspin had this this morning and a reader said you can even do it on completed passes and such. Of course there’s almost zero chance you would get the ball after punting a completion, but at the end of games instead of the lateral play they may kick it and try to get it first.

Wild.

By: KC Resident

KC Resident — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 19:31:36 +0000

Yes it is legal. There were five players behind the punter (on the returning team) when we punted it back, and therefore they were “onside.”

That makes no sense to me, but hey, chaos!