Pennsylvania High School Hockey League Discourages Singing of National Anthem for “Time Constraints”

All, High School Sports Jason McIntyre November 13th. 2012, 12:17pm

It’s a financial decision, OK? From WHDH:

PIHL commissioner Ed Sam sent out an email to the 183 high school teams in the central and western part of the state saying that the singing of the national anthem was not permitted.
“The national anthem should not be played only because of the time constraints. It’s not that we’re not patriotic, that’s the furthest from the truth,” said Sam.
High school hockey must rent the ice time, so every game is carefully timed to get in as many in as possible in the shortest amount of time.
“Ice is very, very hard to get, okay? And it’s not cheap. We’re talking $300 an hour sometimes,” said Sam.

How long does it take to belt out the National Anthem, 120 seconds? [News 7 via Fang's Bites]

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96 Responses to “Pennsylvania High School Hockey League Discourages Singing of National Anthem for “Time Constraints””

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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
I don’t think there’s any problem admitting that 70% of all national anthem renditions are pretty awful and designed less to bring attention to our shared heritage as a nation and more to show off the supposed vocal range of the person doing the singing.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
How long does it take to belt out the National Anthem, 120 seconds?
That’s 10 bucks a pop…before every game.
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:21 PM
at my FIL’s funeral last weekend, they did the flag-folding, presentation to the widow because he was a veteran. never saw it before, very somber and chilling even
one of the two servicemen played Taps before the folding and presentation and it reminded me that all national anthems should be done solo trumpet
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:22 PM
one of the two servicemen played Taps before the folding and presentation and it reminded me that all national anthems should be done solo trumpet
Hate to burst your bubble…but that was not a live rendition. Dude had a speaker in his trumpet.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Can we talk about the white Tuskegee Airman from the opening ceremonies on MNF last night? Am I the only one who was really confused by that?
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Hate to burst your bubble…but that was not a live rendition. Dude had a speaker in his trumpet.
Was also not the national anthem, it was “Spanish Flea.”
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José Pippen Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Is ice time the same as hookers where if it’s $300/hr but it takes 61 minutes to get the job done you have to pay $600? Cause then I’m all for it.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Can we talk about the white Tuskegee Airman from the opening ceremonies on MNF last night? Am I the only one who was really confused by that?
I didn’t see it…but I still remain confused by the NFL Network Thursday night opening with a black midget in a modified storm trooper outfit.
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José Pippen Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
white Tuskegee Airman
Are you sure they just weren’t high yellow?
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
no bubble burst babar. i kinda thought something was fishy. i was standing nearby, and she took it out of a case and weird, because she was behind and out of sight of everyone, who were facing front
i suppose there are plenty of times when they are in full view, hence the artifice
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GloriousMullet Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Can we talk about the white Tuskegee Airman from the opening ceremonies on MNF last night? Am I the only one who was really confused by that?
Nope, my wife and I both saw it and we were confused as shit about it. My wife said “Maybe he bleached his skin.”
I love her dearly.
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
Can we talk about the white Tuskegee Airman from the opening ceremonies on MNF last night? Am I the only one who was really confused by that?
im assuming there were some people involved that were white…commissioned officers, trainers, etc.
/total guess
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
im assuming there were some people involved that were white…commissioned officers, trainers, etc.
/total guess
Someone had to read them the manuals too, I guess. Am I right, Chitwood?
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
I love her dearly.
This made me laugh. It’s like I can hear the sigh you let out before you typed that.
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Someone had to read them the manuals too, I guess. Am I right, Chitwood?
oh come on, that’s not what i was getting at.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
oh come on, that’s not what i was getting at.
Oh I know it wasn’t.
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
point remains….solo trumpet national anthems ftw
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
oh come on, that’s not what i was getting at.
That’s exactly how it read. I’m just surprised you didn’t mention that blacks (although you’d use a much more derogatory term) were really only there to clean the latrines…you even have some eye opening literature for us to read about what really went on there.
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
oh come on, that’s not what i was getting at.
I think he was making fun of commenter Jimmy Chitwood.
The trainers at Tuskegee were white at first, mainly because there were no black pilots in the Army Air Corps to do the training at the time, but I’ve never heard of them being the focus of any sort of honor or memorial. Not saying they don’t deserve it, but it just seems like a rather esoteric group of veterans to do that for.
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sousedbergin Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
At this point shouldn’t you Uncle Sam fellating cunts be over this limey drinking song?
/Love your country too much to be patriot?
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Yeah I mean obviously I would assume there had to have been white folk involved but I just found it really jarring, boffo jarring even, to see “Tuskegee Airmen” under a white dude.
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Beadlejuice Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
Just pipe through the Carl Lewis version during warm-ups
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:31 PM
but I’ve never heard of them being the focus of any sort of honor or memorial. Not saying they don’t deserve it, but it just seems like a rather esoteric group of veterans to do that for.
Nah it was just one dude, was a “here’s one veteran from each of our wars from the last century” thing and he was one of them.
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johndewar Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
At this point shouldn’t you Uncle Sam fellating cunts be over this limey drinking song?
O Canada >>>>>> Star Spangled Banner
/There. I said it.
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
boffo jarring even
Nice.
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Milk Steak To Go Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Hate to burst your bubble…but that was not a live rendition. Dude had a speaker in his trumpet.
A speaker in the trumpet is better than a cd in a boombox.
/Seen it both ways.
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Nah it was just one dude, was a “here’s one veteran from each of our wars from the last century” thing and he was one of them.
Oh..well, that’s kinda odd.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:33 PM
im assuming there were some people involved that were white…commissioned officers, trainers, etc.
/total guess
Truth. And, there are chapters in various towns who exist to keep the legacy alive:
http://www.tuskegeeairmen.org/
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Beadlejuice
Everyone saw the Michelle Beadle stalker story, right? Dude is from Ohio (checks gravatar)…
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
And, there are chapters in various towns who exist to keep the legacy alive:
Do they host screenings of “Red Tails” every month?
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geoffreyvs hired a PR firm to get his son's coach fired; now I'm running for Senate! Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
I don’t think there’s any problem admitting that 70% of all national anthem renditions are pretty awful and designed less to bring attention to our shared heritage as a nation and more to show off the supposed vocal range of the person doing the singing.
I’m of the view that the national anthem should only be sung before really big events like championships. I think less is more here.
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starkweather Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Mole is so close to the truth but he didn’t follow the money. White Tuskegee Airmen = boffo ratings. What don’t you get? Better ratings than baseball, at least, but I’m not making a comparison.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
O Canada >>>>>> Star Spangled Banner
/There. I said it.
It would take quite a big movement, but I wouldn’t mind swapping out our anthem for a better selection.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Wow I said that not realizing the pictures on the front page seem to be from an event honoring George Lucas, creator of Red Tails.
TAKE THAT MISTAH HITLAH
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
but I wouldn’t mind swapping out our anthem for a better selection.
“Spanish Flea.”
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
I’m of the view that the national anthem should only be sung before really big events like championships. I think less is more here.
I tend to agree. And baseball really over does it with the Anthem before the game and God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch. God forbid we have another major terrorist attack on American soil, but if we do they might up the ante to have a full scale reenactment of Washington Crossing the Delaware at the end of each game. Attendance would be mandatory of course.
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Babar 2.0 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
“Spanish Flea.”
Hahaha…didn’t get it the first time…listening to it now.
Great choice. This is like America’s Benny Hill theme.
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sousedbergin Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
but I wouldn’t mind swapping out our anthem for a better selection.
“Spanish Flea.”
Boughetto
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
God forbid we have another major terrorist attack on American soil, but if we do they might up the ante to have a full scale reenactment of Washington Crossing the Delaware at the end of each game.
Anything to give the Yankees’ starting pitcher a few more minutes of rest before the seventh.
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PeerLessPrices Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
but if we do they might up the ante to have a full scale reenactment of Washington Crossing the Delaware at the end of each game.
I laughed.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Am I suggesting that the New York Yankees, in consort with YES, Rudy Giuliani, and the NY Post would orchestrate a terrorist attack that would kill thousands simply to gain an advantage for the Yankees? Yes, yes I am.
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johndewar Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
“Spanish Flea.”
Hahaha…didn’t get it the first time…listening to it now.
Great choice. This is like America’s Benny Hill theme.
This would be an obvious choice right after we elect Gene Rayburn to be President.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Do they host screenings of “Red Tails” every month?
Ha! I’d love to say now, but…
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geoffreyvs hired a PR firm to get his son's coach fired; now I'm running for Senate! Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
I tend to agree. And baseball really over does it with the Anthem before the game and God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch. God forbid we have another major terrorist attack on American soil, but if we do they might up the ante to have a full scale reenactment of Washington Crossing the Delaware at the end of each game. Attendance would be mandatory of course.
Eh, I think they’ll just go to singing all four verses of “America the Beautiful”.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:42 PM
This would be an obvious choice right after we elect Gene Rayburn to be President.
That inauguration speech will be a bit flat.
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Some Random Old Dude Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
say no
dang it.
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phillymantis915 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
but if we do they might up the ante to have a full scale reenactment of Washington Crossing the Delaware at the end of each game.
You need to check out the renactment if you ever come up to the Philly area. Especially the morning of Christmas. It’s cold as anything, but it’s really cool.
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Eh, I think they’ll just go to singing all four verses of “America the Beautiful”.
I never knew the song was actually that long. It reminds me of the ‘unofficial’ original verses to God Save the King/Queen which talk about destroying Scottish resistance and ending Catholic influence in Britain.
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starkweather Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
orchestrate a terrorist attack that would kill thousands simply to gain an advantage for the Yankees? Yes, yes I am.
Agreed. And I’m forwarding this thread to David Icke. You are now an inside source for this information.
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Beadlejuice Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Beadlejuice
Everyone saw the Michelle Beadle stalker story, right? Dude is from Ohio (checks gravatar)…
I coined beadlejuice eons ago when someone claimed her favorite beverage was squirt or that she was one. I was T-Bone; Bear Pounder but made a change.
/don’t even find her very attractive
/very defensive
/may be the stalker
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
The stalker was a Bengals fan. Beadle isn’t fat enough for a Browns fan to find attractive.
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Beadlejuice Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
The stalker was a Bengals fan. Beadle isn’t fat enough for a Browns fan to find attractive.
http://www.clevelandwomen.com/photos/events/browns/bone-lady.jpg
Bone Lady or GTFO
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Tuskegee is a place not a breed you narrow minded morons.
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Der Kaiser Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
fun fact, Germany’s national anthem has 3 stanzas, but currently only the 3rd stanza is sung at state and athletic events. It’s understandable why we don’t sing the first stanza as decribed below:
Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world,
When, for protection and defence, it always
takes a brotherly stand together.
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
|: Germany, Germany above everything,
Above everything in the world!
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
The trainers at Tuskegee were white at first, mainly because there were no black pilots in the Army Air Corps to do the training at the time
THAT’S what i was getting at.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Tuskegee is a place not a breed you narrow minded morons.
No shit, it’s a name given to the black pilots who trained there, I think we all realize that.
In spite of adversity and limited opportunities, African Americans have played a significant role in U.S. military history over the past 300 years. They were denied military leadership roles and skilled training because many believed they lacked qualifications for combat duty. Before 1940, African Americans were barred from flying for the U.S. military. Civil rights organizations and the black press exerted pressure that resulted in the formation of an all African-American pursuit squadron based in Tuskegee, Alabama, in 1941. They became known as the Tuskegee Airmen
That’s from the official society’s website. I don’t think it’s weird to be taken aback on first glance to see the name under a white guy.
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philgp Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
Yeah, the national anthem at sporting events just goes to needlessly promote nationalism (the NFL is obviously the worst with flyovers and what not). I’m fairly certain, aside from international matches, national anthems aren’t played either in domestic or continental club matches in soccer.
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Der Kaiser Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Yeah, the national anthem at sporting events just goes to needlessly promote nationalism (the NFL is obviously the worst with flyovers and what not). I’m fairly certain, aside from international matches, national anthems aren’t played either in domestic or continental club matches in soccer.
Yeah, only at national team matches. Play it too much, and people get de-sensitized. Same thing with pledge of allegiance at school.
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
The stalker was a Bengals fan. Beadle isn’t fat enough for a Browns fan to find attractive.
UNCALLED FOR.
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HtownHacker Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
The Tuskegee airmen story brought to mind this “classic” movie.
Didn’t realize Dennis Haysbert had been around that long.
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Der Kaiser Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
France and Russia have the most badass anthems. I can’t decide which I like more. Canada is nice too.
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PeerLessPrices Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
Same thing with pledge of allegiance at school.
Communist
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
Didn’t realize Dennis Haysbert had been around that long.
shit, that movie’s so old, joboo didn’t even need a refill yet.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
What would a White Tuskeegee Airman think about White Michael Vick?
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Der Kaiser Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
Communist
By middle school, our teacher wouldn’t even tell us to stand. Everyone just ignored it.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
UNCALLED FOR.
I bet it really chaps your ass to have to compete with all those black guys for the chubbos doesn’t it spencer.
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
No shit, it’s a name given to the black pilots who trained there, I think we all realize that.
Good gawd, man. Too much hot sauce in your britches or something?
The trainers at Tuskegee were white at first, mainly because there were no black pilots in the Army Air Corps to do the training at the time
True. A friend of mine’s dad was a doctor for the squadron. I got a shell of his first-hand story.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
By middle school, our teacher wouldn’t even tell us to stand. Everyone just ignored it.
So….you didn’t just follow orders?
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
Good gawd, man. Too much hot sauce in your britches or something?
You just called us narrow minded morons, so, fuck you chief.
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
I bet it really chaps your ass to have to compete with all those black guys for the chubbos doesn’t it spencer.
lol
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
What’s Texas’ national anthem?
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spencer096 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
What’s Texas’ national anthem?
rocky mountain high.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
What’s Texas’ national anthem?
Dunno, but the words are in Spanish
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
fuck you chief.
Back at ya sparky.
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PeerLessPrices Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
By middle school, our teacher wouldn’t even tell us to stand. Everyone just ignored it
Awful teachers. You make them stand they don’t have to say it
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geoffreyvs hired a PR firm to get his son's coach fired; now I'm running for Senate! Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:07 PM
From the Meuse to the Memel,
From the Adige to the Belt,
Yeah, a bit problematic geographically. The Meuse is in France, the Memel is in Lithuania, the Adige is in the Tyrol, and I’m guessing “the Belt” refers to the passages in the Danish archipelago. So yeah, the first verse is certainly a statement of German imperialism on the European continent.
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starkweather Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
I got a shell of his first-hand story.
You have the shell of a guy’s first hand? Hands can regenerate?
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Algeria’s anthem contains a shout-out to machine gun fire gunning down Frenchmen, absolutely nothing can ever top that.
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Nada Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
Can we talk about the white Tuskegee Airman from the opening ceremonies on MNF last night?
He mistakenly thought White MIke Vick was playing?
“Maybe he bleached his skin.”
Wait, it was Sammy Sosa?
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Nada Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Hands can regenerate?
/ Doctor Who’d
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
By middle school, our teacher wouldn’t even tell us to stand. Everyone just ignored it
Here’s betting $100 that she weighed over 225 and smelled bad.
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Nada Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
What’s Texas’ national anthem?
Lyrics deinitely by David Allen Coe.
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
buncha people who can;t stand for others to think they didn’t ‘know that’
my first college roomate was fucking insufferable with that shit. you tell him some trivia, oh, he knew that, everyone knows that, and then added some info with ‘you knew that tho right?’
ugh. but he was my makeup guy when i was eddie from Iron Maiden for halloween. still, gone after first semester
that’s when the kitten took his place…..
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Here’s a quick song tour
of the last great war
In 10 minutes time
We’re through the Maginot Line
The Jews threw in the towel
We marched them to Dachau
O, Germany, our history is great!
Sorry we didn’t win the right for only whites to procreate!
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Lyrics deinitely by David Allen Coe
oh good gawd yes.
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Cowboy Mike's Old Original Red Hot Ricochet Barbeque Sauce Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Here’s betting $100 that she weighed over 225 and smelled bad.
HAHAHA FUCKING FAT BUTCH BULLDYKES AM I RIGHT LET’S TALK KID’S BASEBALL THAT’S NOT CREEPY
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squawkbox Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
but he was my makeup guy
/Coop?
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
but he was my makeup guy
/Coop?
holy shit. i am not making this up. his last name is Cooper
hahahahaha
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roastbeast Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:18 PM
lets go to lukenbock texas…
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Nada Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:19 PM
We need to drop “The Star-Spangled Banner” and adopt this new national anthem pronto.
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Speaking of America, Bob Dole’s 1996 campaign website is still online. And its glorious.
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starkweather Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:25 PM
What the hell is that, Queefer? It’s filtered as pornography at my work
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QueeferSutherland Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
What the hell is that, Queefer? It’s filtered as pornography at my work
You serious, Clark? It’s really Bob Dole’s 1996 presidential campaign website.
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Nada Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
Bob Dole’s 1996 campaign website is still online
Is he still trying to figure out which Real World housemate ate Bob Dole’s peanut butter?
/ Norm Macdonald, gold
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ms621 Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Algeria’s anthem contains a shout-out to machine gun fire gunning down Frenchmen, absolutely nothing can ever top that.
France’s national anthem, specifically the chorus, talks about watering the fields with the blood of impure invaders. Yeah it’s not “machine gunning” your enemies, but still….
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sousedbergin Says:
November 13th, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Algeria’s anthem contains a shout-out to machine gun fire gunning down Frenchmen, absolutely nothing can ever top that.
France’s national anthem, specifically the chorus, talks about watering the fields with the blood of impure invaders. Yeah it’s not “machine gunning” your enemies, but still….
Ukraine’s has the perfect line “Ukraine has not yet perished.”
Benin used to have a pretty bad ass flag.
/preferred to the flags with AK47′s