Dirty? Yes. But its also smart.

Which was interesting because most personal fouls are not offsetting with 5 yard penalties.

If the Saints score the TD and kick the XP they’re up 8. Falcons still have a chance. They go for the 2pt and they ice the game if successful. If NO fails, they’re still up 7 and there’s no chance Mike Smith (or any coach for that matter) goes for two there and risks the loss. Seems ultra low risk and ultra high reward to go for 2 there, but what do the numbers say?

http://www.footballperspective.com/up-by-1-after-scoring-a-late-touchdown-should-teams-go-for-two/

Chase talked about it here and I generally agree with them. The Saints/Falcons might be an exception because both offenses are really good and the Saints D is bad.

You don’t get to hit him with the helmet into his while he is still in the process of throwing.

But from a pure advantage standpoint, they should try and murder the QB. It’s an offsetting penalty. You essentially get a free shot to try and take the QB out of the game. Having Cutler on the sidelines for the rest of the game is far more valuable than the five penalty yards the defense would gain.

Dirty? Yes. But its also smart.

extremely good. He could have pulled up or at least not led with the helmet.

It’s a clear penalty by the rules. If he was in the act of throwing a pass or just after, he is defenseless, just like a receiver who has stepped out of bounds cannot legally catch a pass, but can be defenseless still by going up for one and getting blasted. There is no requirement that the pass be legal. Other rules penalize for that. You don’t get to hit him with the helmet into his while he is still in the process of throwing.

odds on a fine/suspension?

I’m predicting $50,000, based on the fine after the Schaub decapitation.

So, if he’s 5 yards past the line of scrimmage and throws a pass and gets blasted, what then? I don’t think it’s a “technicality” – it’s a fact. He was past the LOS, thus no longer a passer. You guys and your pussy assed Cutler love.

odds on a fine/suspension? real good

/no math wiz

Not panic time. They’re a team that has to win the turnover battle to win the game 9 times out of 10. Even coughing it up 4 times last night only cost them the game by 7 points. They’re still a good team that could beat any other NFL team… and probably lose to 30 of them as well. Hopefully Jay is OK and back for Week 12 (rather he sit against SF, just to be safe).

Bears have a flawed offense, for sure. But every NFL team is flawed

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Agreed. I’m not jumping off a bridge here. I just would like to see them win a game because of the offense. Would give me more faith.

not sure if it’s been mentioned (i’m reading from the bottom up) but the defender actually said after the game it was cutler’s fault, that cutler moved into him

Each play, the whole team comes out and gets evaluated over the next two plays. The roster swells to 185 and Charlie Whitehurst actually gets playing time.

I actually was referring to the offense. I think it was Seattle the had 2nd and 2 or something, and got fancy, and ended up losing the game.

I think out of everything shitty yesterday, I was most frustrated with what happened after Ridley got them a first and goal at around 3 minutes left. They proceed to give the Bills free time by calling 3 straight passes and settling for a field goal.

Mostly, I just wish that just once the Pats would close the door on a team in the 4th quarter.

Agree that 4th quarter defense has been putrid

I actually was referring to the offense. I think it was Seattle the had 2nd and 2 or something, and got fancy, and ended up losing the game.

Mostly, I just wish that just once the Pats would close the door on a team in the 4th quarter.

Agree that 4th quarter defense has been putrid, but it sure would help if the offense did more than go 3 and out in a critical late game ‘put-away’ situation. Welker made sure to stay in the league lead in drops yesterday too.

I’ve heard some mixed reports on coverage skills.

He doesn’t need coverage skills against the QBs in that division. They’ll throw it right to him.

/Fitztragic

Sam Bradford purposely falling over and laying in the fetal position at the end of that game was putrid.

I thought it was a nice impression of the 49ers’ first quarter.

But NFL coaching tendencies have to factor in decision making. You’re up 9, it’s over.

If you are ever up 9/10 on Jeff Fisher it’s a real safe place to be. He seemed to always get stuck wasting time going for a touchdown, instead of a FG/onside.

You realize he was still suspended this week, right?

I actually thought he was off this week till I realized Sunday AM he wasn’t going to play. But I don’t think he’ll make a huge difference (I hope I’m wrong), and I’ve heard some mixed reports on coverage skills. Mostly, I just wish that just once the Pats would close the door on a team in the 4th quarter.