Ballin’: Kyrie Irving Outplays Chris Paul, Cavs Beat the Clippers
New York 110, Philadelphia 88: The Knicks dominated the 76ers for the second night in a row and are now 3-0, winning those games by an average of 19 ppg. This time, they hit 13 three-pointers. It’s taking me a little time to warm up to this Knicks team. Yes, I’m still bitter about how they traded Jeremy Lin. I loathe Jason Kidd and I’m still salty about Melo’s July antics. I’ll get over it, eventually. I’m looking forward to Iman Shumpert’s return. That’s one guy I like. Still no Bynum for Philly, and no ETA, either.
Brooklyn 96, Minnesota 107: Somebody named Alexey Shved sparked a furious rally for the Love/Rubio-less Timberwolves, and Minnesota overcame a 22-point second half deficit to stun the Nets. Shved scored 10 points in the 4th quarter; the Nets scored 10 points in the 4th quarter.
Cleveland 108, LA Clippers 101: Rookie Dion Waiters had the best game of his young career, scoring 28 points (seven 3-pointers), and fellow rookie Tyler Zeller added 15 points and seven rebounds off the bench as the Cavs registered an impressive road win. How do you lose a home game when you shoot 52 percent? By turning it over 25 times, and permitting 18 offensive rebounds.
Miami 124, Phoenix 99: The Heat shot 57 percent from deep, making 15 three-pointers, and easily improved to 3-1. The terrible Suns have lost their last two games by a combined 46 points. I have no clue where the offense will come from. Beasley? He’s off to a slow start, shooting just 36 percent so far.
Sacramento 94, Golden State 92: The Kings will not go winless this season. DeMarcus Cousins scored 23 points and collected 15 rebounds. Jimmer Fredette played two minutes and scored five points.
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November 6th, 2012 at 9:46 AM
What are you doing Gortat? Don’t hurt yourself big fella.
November 6th, 2012 at 9:48 AM
I knew I was an idiot for drafting Bynum. I knew it right before it happened, while it happened, right afer it happened, etc. Yet, I hit the button.
November 6th, 2012 at 9:53 AM
Jimmer Fredette played two minutes and scored five points.
120 points/48 min!!! Get the man some burn!
November 6th, 2012 at 9:57 AM
It will come from the bench. Gentry will coach the bench up like he always does and the Suns will manage to win too many games and I will be sad when the team picking 12th takes the guy I wanted the Suns to have 13th. Then I will drink.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:11 AM
And Dion Waiters outplayed all of them.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Like what I see from Waiters. Teams are pretty much leaving him open so far though. Nice use of zone to give help on Chris Paul.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Milwaukee Bucks: 2-0!
November 6th, 2012 at 10:15 AM
You think they’ll make the playoffs this year? Really like that team.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
KNEE JERK!
November 6th, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Guess you didnt watch Russia play in the Olympics.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Who knows, I wouldn’t put it past them to trade Anderson Varejao and their bench his horrendous. Not to mention, Kyrie’s injury problems in the past, although the East is pretty wide open.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Also, Tristan Thompson has been a disaster. Just looks like he doesn’t belong. Fortunately that draft was terrible and the Cavs didn’t really pass on anyone to get him #hookem
November 6th, 2012 at 10:24 AM
Spurs beat the Pacers to go to 4-0. Duncan with 14 & 11 in 26 mins. He is having a great start to the year.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:25 AM
I remember the idea being “Who needs JJ Hickson when we can draft a tall, skinny, forward who just lives at the three point line? We’ll just stick with Thompson”
November 6th, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Cavs are back
November 6th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Cavs are an interior player away from doing big things.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Was it on RedZone?
November 6th, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Cavs have a center. They need a real PF.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:31 AM
To be air A.P. JJ wasn’t anything special either
November 6th, 2012 at 10:32 AM
More I think about it, more I feel like we missed out on an epic Spurs-Heat final last year. OKC just had unreal streak from game 3 onward in that series. I really think Spurs could have beaten the Heat.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Jimmer Fredette is a bum, he gets love on this site like Greg O-Done used to
November 6th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
I really think Spurs could have beaten the Heat.
Yeah, spurs match up much better with Miami than OKC. Lakers had a better shot at beating Miami last year than OKC. Easiest money ever was taking the Heat in that series. Still can’t believe they were underdogs.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Who should they get?
November 6th, 2012 at 10:36 AM
You break CRM’s heart
November 6th, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Cavs are an interior player away from doing big things
agree Tristan Thompson is a bust
November 6th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
if Chris Paul was smart, he would get out of LA after this year….he isnt winning anything w that glorified AAU team….
FREECP3
November 6th, 2012 at 10:39 AM
It’s so perplexing. You’d think great shooting is the one thing that would translate from college to NBA. Yet so many players that were great shooter at college struggle once they get to the NBA.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Blake Griffin really hasn’t developed as quickly as I thought he would.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:42 AM
I cannot believe Vinny Del Negro is still a coach in this league.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Blake Griffin really hasn’t developed as quickly as I thought he would
nope, its funny D Howard used to get killed by the bloggerati for not working to improve his game…but Griffin gets a pass because he is the best dunker evah
November 6th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Maybe, but I think the Heat would have probably still won.
Screw CPunk3. He deserves what he has.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:43 AM
They need to can Vinny first.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:44 AM
i’m willing to give him the full season before I break out the bust label but he is trending that way
November 6th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Dude, please. Vinny Del African-American is the preferred nomenclature.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Screw CPunk3. He deserves what he has
Bruce Bowen agrees
November 6th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Blake Griffin can’t shoot. Seems to be a glaring weakness in his game a lot of people seem to ignore.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Paul is like a mini-garnett. Can be a real dick at times.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:46 AM
Don’t be knocking Bruce “bow tie” Bowen and his 3 rings Irish. How you liking the JV coach so far?
November 6th, 2012 at 10:50 AM
What did he get CRM for his wedding?
November 6th, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Jacque Vaughn is no Stan Van Gundy, but I’m liking him so far…I really like the 30 year old GM, he is doing big thangs
November 6th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
I really hope the Bucks go after Stan after Skiles gets fired this year.
/guy can dream
November 6th, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Good thing I covered the Grizzlies in the Roundup.
Pondexter came off the bench and gave the team a real lift, hitting threes and throwing down a couple of fierce dunks.
Bayless also came off the bench and gave the team a lift. Now, if only they could get by the Clippers.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Heard somewhere, I think it was TBJ, that over a quarter of the leagues GMs used to be employees of the Spurs.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:55 AM
The Grizz’ new owner looks younger than me. Became a billionaire overnight a few years ago and now owns an NBA team.
I. Am. A. Failure.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Tanking will never be stopped.
November 6th, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Stay bitter about the gimmick while the Knicks stay winning with a better backcourt.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
remember this name TBLers, Nik Vucevic a star in the making
November 6th, 2012 at 11:04 AM
Boy, if I was a billionaire, I don’t think I’d own a NBA team in Memphis. Hell, I’d bid for a MLB team before a NBA team. And I HATE baseball. Sure, you can get lucky like San Antonio or OKC and hit the perfect storm of shitty season followed by a draft with franchise player, but good luck getting any marquee free agents to come play for you.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Yeah, the guy looks 22.
I disagree, Kaiser, because Memphis ain’t got much. You show up, act like you like the city, keep the team there, and you could own that region. Someone else has already gotten the arena built. The new owner has a potential long-term win-win.
Draw a line from the Missouri bootheel to Nashville to southern Mississippi to Little Rock, and there aren’t a lot of pro franchises inside that geographic area. Marketing now is the key.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
SROD, I understand that. It’s not a shot at Memphis. But given the trend that we are seeing over past 5 years or so, it’s becoming harder and harder for small market teams to lure top of the line free agents to their city. Not only the great players want to play in Miami, LA, NYC, Brooklyn, and Chicago, they often times are happy to take pay cut to go there. Put it this way, once howard becomes a free agent, do you see him even consider Memphis as one of his destination? Even if let’s say he can get $25 million more over the length of his contract as opposed to signing for a “big market” team.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Kaiser, you’re spot on. Which is why Heisley (the previous owner) grossly overpaid for Rudy Gay and Mike Conley. He was trying to convince the fans he was serious about building a winner.
I didn’t take it as a shot at Memphis, but shots are well-deserved (no pun intended).
Awd, we’ve argued your point in this space off and on for months. I wanted to include Atlanta in that group of places where great players want to play, but I may have been wrong in that assessment.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Der Kaiser, I think as we see the effects of the new CBA take plplace over the next few years, star player movement will stall. GOing over the cap has huge penalties now, especially for repeat offenders. Basically, star players will stay put.
I’d by a D-League team and have a ton of fun running it with no care towards the bottom line.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
This. The NBA has a couple of big problems right now that Silver will have to deal with. You hit the first one, Kaiser.
The second one relates to the first one. Because it is a star league, lower market teams cannot build a “team based” squad and expect to do anything except make the playoffs. They can’t win. So, instead those teams want a star. Since they can’t sign one, they tank a season hoping for the next best thing. Yet, in 4 or 6 years, 90-95% of those guys will bolt for a more “glitzy” place.
I consider San Antonio the last exception to that. Duncan was the rare star who wanted to play in the small market. The other guys around him stayed too. He might be the last of that dying breed.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
I hope this is the case, but I’ll believe it when I see it. If the penalties are that harsh, it will help.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I think 3X offenders of the luxury tax have to pay something like $4 per $1 over thtax line, plus when you are over the cap you do not get and of the exceptions to sign free agents or something.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
The second one relates to the first one. Because it is a star league, lower market teams cannot build a “team based” squad and expect to do anything except make the playoffs.
Small market teams have always had to build through the draft. Milwaukee had Kareem, once upon a time. This isn’t new. OKC locking their two guys up to long term deals sort of flies in the face of the “only destination cities can get talent” thing. Takes a smart front office. Look at the Knicks, Bulls (before the drafted rose), Atlanta, DC, etc. Those are all destination cities too.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Yeah, I’m already starting to hear these big market teams talk about the luxury tax and how that’s having an effect on their free agent and draft decisions. I hope it evens the playing field a little. OKC already became a victim of that. Since they gave Westbrook and Durant 5 year deal, they could only offer Harden a 4 year deal. That played a big role in the trade. Going forward, teams will have harder time hoarding quality players.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Having said all this, we are definitely having another lockout at end of current CBA. Lot of owners are really pissed off at Stern for pushing the deal through. Owners had a real shot at breaking the union once and for all, and they only accomplished 60% of their objective.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Orlando small market most def, but they have always been able to lure Free Agents and get lucky in the lottery 3 times building through the draft…if you have an owner that is willing to spend like Devos, unlike Clay in OKC who didnt want to pay luxury to win a couple titles, teams can be rebuilt in a couple seasons maybe sooner
November 6th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
if you have an owner that is willing to spend like Devos, unlike Clay in OKC who didnt want to pay luxury to win a couple titles, teams can be rebuilt in a couple seasons maybe sooner
Yup. OKC not being able to afford Harden was kind of not true, from what I’ve read.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Florida got no state tax, right? That has to be a major advantage.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:48 AM
I dunno. I think the only real “destination cities” might be NY, LA, Chicago and Miami. 4 cities and possibly 6 teams. What would make Atlanta and DC destination cities? Would Dallas be one also? Houston? Boston?
November 6th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
yep no state income tax
November 6th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Oh believe me. That’s no spin. They could’ve afforded what he was asking for. Hell, I think you could’ve convinced him to take a little less money in exchange for putting in a no-trade clause.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Yup. OKC not being able to afford Harden was kind of not true, from what I’ve read
Clay Bennett for ya
November 6th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
How Dallas whiffed on every Deron Williams, I’ll never know.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
What would make Atlanta and DC destination cities? Would Dallas be one also? Houston? Boston?
Every good player can’t end up in NY/LA/Miami, there aren’t enough spots. Atlanta & DC both have Large Black populations/night life. They’re a good second tier. Yes to Dallas and Houston too. Boston.. I dunno.
All money being equal, I think a player is going to go to where he has the best chance of winning/being featured. Sometimes I think we think all of these guys are Carmelo Anthony fame whores.
Florida got no state tax, right? That has to be a major advantage.
Charles Barkley has said many times that this is not as big of an advantage as most people believe. You’re still taxed on all your away games not played in FL, TX, or TN.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Yeah but half the time you aren’t paying the tax that you would normally pay if you played for the Bulls or the Lakers.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
You guys have no idea how much it sucks being a Bucks fan.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Yeah but half the time you aren’t paying the tax that you would normally pay if you played for the Bulls or the Lakers.
Cost of living in LA and Chicago is astronomically higher than it is in Orlando. PUSH.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Referring to the Bucks’ front office. I’m not a woe is me small market guy. Success can be had, just not with the leadership they have.
November 6th, 2012 at 11:59 AM
Fact: Ray Allen loved Milwaukee, the cheap cost of living, and relative anonymity. Wanted to spend his career here.
FUCK YOU GEORGE KARL.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Big Dog Robinson fan?
November 6th, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Big Dog Robinson fan?
He served his purpose (above average scorer) when he was surrounded by Ray and Sam… but overall.. not really. He wasn’t really a likable guy. Cost them a game in ’01 ECF. Missed a gimme.
/would have gotten swept by the lakers anyway
November 6th, 2012 at 12:04 PM
It bugs me that he got a ring riding the bench with the spurs.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
ha I didnt know that
November 6th, 2012 at 12:09 PM
I vaguely remember reading here that Williams was to meet with Mark Cuban on a particular day, but Cuban was busy filming a segment for some reality TV show. Williams felt slighted, and opened his recruitment to other suitors.
Anybody else remember that?
November 6th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
I vaguely remember reading here that Williams was to meet with Mark Cuban on a particular day, but Cuban was busy filming a segment for some reality TV show. Williams felt slighted, and opened his recruitment to other suitors.
Anybody else remember that?
Yeah… Cuban turned it around and said that it was a poor reflection on the Nets if all would take for him to leave there was an appearance by Cuban. Thought that was funny. Not sure if there is a guy I’d like to work for more than him.
November 6th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Cuban seems to go above and beyond for his team. That’s cool.
After hearing all that, I took it for granted that Williams was just one more player who was used to people kissing his butt. When Cuban didn’t, Williams’ response was predictable.
November 6th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Not only the great players want to play in Miami, LA, NYC, Brooklyn, and Chicago
link?