<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:rawvoice="http://www.rawvoice.com/rawvoiceRssModule/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Thursday Night Football: Hapless Chiefs Against Norval&#8217;s Chargers, Feel the Excitement</title> <atom:link href="http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/</link> <description>Sports, Media, Entertainment</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 18:05:47 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator> <item><title>By: Mantis Toboggan</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810152</link> <dc:creator>Mantis Toboggan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:31:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810152</guid> <description><![CDATA[Who the fuck is this Nate Silver I keep reading about. Did he cure cancer or invent cheetos? Sounds like he is the most important man on the planet.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who the fuck is this Nate Silver I keep reading about. Did he cure cancer or invent cheetos? Sounds like he is the most important man on the planet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Some Random Old Dude</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810150</link> <dc:creator>Some Random Old Dude</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:15:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810150</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;in short, i have fattie potential&lt;/blockquote&gt;Me too, Vez. Me too. I&#039;ve been a chocolate junkie since childhood.&lt;blockquote&gt;Snickers Peanut Butter – possibly the greatest candy bar ever, definitely out of newer creations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Those things are dangerous. I like danger.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>in short, i have fattie potential</p></blockquote><p>Me too, Vez. Me too. I&#8217;ve been a chocolate junkie since childhood.</p><blockquote><p>Snickers Peanut Butter – possibly the greatest candy bar ever, definitely out of newer creations.</p></blockquote><p>Those things are dangerous. I like danger.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sousedbergin</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810148</link> <dc:creator>sousedbergin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 07:19:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810148</guid> <description><![CDATA[Nina Simone probably made these weird macho noises which made you examine the parameters of your sexuality but upon examination would only in increase your ardor./Why would a Hebrew god tell you how to marry is he speaks Hewbrew, Yank?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nina Simone probably made these weird macho noises which made you examine the parameters of your sexuality but upon examination would only in increase your ardor.</p><p>/Why would a Hebrew god tell you how to marry is he speaks Hewbrew, Yank?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810146</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:23:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810146</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.&lt;/em&gt;peter piper]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.</em></p><p>peter piper</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rodney King's Pool Cleaners</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810145</link> <dc:creator>Rodney King's Pool Cleaners</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:21:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810145</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;did you snort some coke?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>did you snort some coke?</p></blockquote><p>Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810144</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:03:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810144</guid> <description><![CDATA[nate silver likes chocolate too]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nate silver likes chocolate too</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810143</link> <dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:02:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810143</guid> <description><![CDATA[Weren&#039;t we just talking candy bars? What brought that up?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weren&#8217;t we just talking candy bars? What brought that up?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810142</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810142</guid> <description><![CDATA[copy that shit rodney, and paste it in roundup in 8 hoursdid you snort some coke?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>copy that shit rodney, and paste it in roundup in 8 hours</p><p>did you snort some coke?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Rodney King's Pool Cleaners</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810141</link> <dc:creator>Rodney King's Pool Cleaners</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810141</guid> <description><![CDATA[‘78.4 Percent’That’s what Nate Silver’s model says are the odds that President Obama will win the Electoral College (as of 1:55:05 P.M. EST.) Not 78.5 percent. Not 78.39 percent. Not 80 percent or 60 percent. 78.4 percent.However you come down on the soundness of Silver’s model. — FWIW though I’m a layman, I was a fan of Silver the baseball statistician, and think his model, from what he’s written about it publicly, is plausibly built, even if I suspect that he’s following in sabermetrics godfather Bill James’ footsteps by assigning weights to inputs based on what produces outcomes that feel right — Where was I? Oh yes, however you come down on the soundness of Silver’s model, I’m irked by how both supporters and detractors seem to be interpreting it.Let’s be clear. When Nate Silver says there’s a 78.4 percent chance Obama will win the Electoral College, he’s expressing a degree of confidence in a prediction. He’s not inventing a new verb and saying “President Obama will be seventy-eight-point-four-reelected” or creating a hundred parallel universes wherein “78.4 percent of Barack Obamas will be reelected.” He’s making a prediction about a binary outcome, based on his reading of the data, and then stapling on a measure of confidence to that prediction.So one can think that Silver is probably right about the Electoral College, and simultaneously think that the 78.4 percent number is basically meaningless. Or rather, that it is impossible to formulate the epistemological difference between “There is a 78.4 percent chance that Obama will win” and “There is a pretty good chance Obama will win.” A lot of Silver’s credibility counts on somehow elucidating the distance between those two propositions, in somehow explaining how his model adds value to what amounts to an expression of the conventional wisdom. As I understand it, Silver runs a very large number of simulations and the 78.4 percent number reports the distribution of outcomes in those simulations. If this is a way of saying “Obama has more paths to victory than Romney”, that’s, again, probably true, but it’s also the same thing that every two-bit pundit with a humanities degree (myself included) has been saying for a while.UPDATE: Generalizing hugely, Silver’s electoral model works like PECOTA — the career-modeling algorithm developed for Baseball Prospectus. It incorporates past election outcomes, and most crucially the correlation between actual outcomes and what the polls predicted. The issue there, for me, is that PECOTA had a pretty good N of playeer careers to work with. If you want to know what kind of year Robinson Cano is likely to have in 2013, PECOTA has a lot of actual prior career trajectories, weighted for era, home ballpark, and the like, to compare with Cano’s, and the resultant predictions, and especially “similarity scores” are intuitive — they usually “make sense” to baseball fans. But as one of the commenters pointed out, presidential electoral dynamics (and demographics) are fluid enough and quality, extensive polling so recent a phenomenon, that the number of comps is maybe four or five — or maybe zero.Anyway, that’s spitballing. I hope no one takes me to think myself qualified to appraise the validity of Silver’s model. What the original post was about is how we should characterize the relationship between Silver’s technical work and the vaguer, layman-speak we use to talk about the election.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘78.4 Percent’</p><p>That’s what Nate Silver’s model says are the odds that President Obama will win the Electoral College (as of 1:55:05 P.M. EST.) Not 78.5 percent. Not 78.39 percent. Not 80 percent or 60 percent. 78.4 percent.</p><p>However you come down on the soundness of Silver’s model. — FWIW though I’m a layman, I was a fan of Silver the baseball statistician, and think his model, from what he’s written about it publicly, is plausibly built, even if I suspect that he’s following in sabermetrics godfather Bill James’ footsteps by assigning weights to inputs based on what produces outcomes that feel right — Where was I? Oh yes, however you come down on the soundness of Silver’s model, I’m irked by how both supporters and detractors seem to be interpreting it.</p><p>Let’s be clear. When Nate Silver says there’s a 78.4 percent chance Obama will win the Electoral College, he’s expressing a degree of confidence in a prediction. He’s not inventing a new verb and saying “President Obama will be seventy-eight-point-four-reelected” or creating a hundred parallel universes wherein “78.4 percent of Barack Obamas will be reelected.” He’s making a prediction about a binary outcome, based on his reading of the data, and then stapling on a measure of confidence to that prediction.</p><p>So one can think that Silver is probably right about the Electoral College, and simultaneously think that the 78.4 percent number is basically meaningless. Or rather, that it is impossible to formulate the epistemological difference between “There is a 78.4 percent chance that Obama will win” and “There is a pretty good chance Obama will win.” A lot of Silver’s credibility counts on somehow elucidating the distance between those two propositions, in somehow explaining how his model adds value to what amounts to an expression of the conventional wisdom. As I understand it, Silver runs a very large number of simulations and the 78.4 percent number reports the distribution of outcomes in those simulations. If this is a way of saying “Obama has more paths to victory than Romney”, that’s, again, probably true, but it’s also the same thing that every two-bit pundit with a humanities degree (myself included) has been saying for a while.</p><p>UPDATE: Generalizing hugely, Silver’s electoral model works like PECOTA — the career-modeling algorithm developed for Baseball Prospectus. It incorporates past election outcomes, and most crucially the correlation between actual outcomes and what the polls predicted. The issue there, for me, is that PECOTA had a pretty good N of playeer careers to work with. If you want to know what kind of year Robinson Cano is likely to have in 2013, PECOTA has a lot of actual prior career trajectories, weighted for era, home ballpark, and the like, to compare with Cano’s, and the resultant predictions, and especially “similarity scores” are intuitive — they usually “make sense” to baseball fans. But as one of the commenters pointed out, presidential electoral dynamics (and demographics) are fluid enough and quality, extensive polling so recent a phenomenon, that the number of comps is maybe four or five — or maybe zero.</p><p>Anyway, that’s spitballing. I hope no one takes me to think myself qualified to appraise the validity of Silver’s model. What the original post was about is how we should characterize the relationship between Silver’s technical work and the vaguer, layman-speak we use to talk about the election.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810140</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810140</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;The white person jewfro was unsettling. &lt;/em&gt;plus his bug eyes and as you said, the effeminate aura. in short, i&#039;d rather be me than him, except for the riches]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The white person jewfro was unsettling. </em></p><p>plus his bug eyes and as you said, the effeminate aura. in short, i&#8217;d rather be me than him, except for the riches</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810138</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:50:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810138</guid> <description><![CDATA[kit kat is a solid default, as well as snickers. always been a Munch bar fan. nestle crunch can do the job, as can heath bar and hershey almond and almond joyin short, i have fattie potentialsrod, i did have some malted milk balls, whoppers, if you will, that seemed &#039;fresh&#039;, and i was pleasantly surprisedstill, they are on the outside looking in for most chocolate lovers]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kit kat is a solid default, as well as snickers. always been a Munch bar fan. nestle crunch can do the job, as can heath bar and hershey almond and almond joy</p><p>in short, i have fattie potential</p><p>srod, i did have some malted milk balls, whoppers, if you will, that seemed &#8216;fresh&#8217;, and i was pleasantly surprised</p><p>still, they are on the outside looking in for most chocolate lovers</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810137</link> <dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810137</guid> <description><![CDATA[Snickers Peanut Butter - possibly the greatest candy bar ever, definitely out of newer creations.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snickers Peanut Butter &#8211; possibly the greatest candy bar ever, definitely out of newer creations.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Some Random Old Dude</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810136</link> <dc:creator>Some Random Old Dude</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:42:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810136</guid> <description><![CDATA[Vez, this might sound weird, but I loved malted milk balls. Used to buy them by the pint carton last year.Now, I&#039;m always down for Snickers or Kit-Kat. Bring it on, brotha.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vez, this might sound weird, but I loved malted milk balls. Used to buy them by the pint carton last year.</p><p>Now, I&#8217;m always down for Snickers or Kit-Kat. Bring it on, brotha.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KC Resident</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810135</link> <dc:creator>KC Resident</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810135</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;it’s more of the same no?&lt;/em&gt; JoeYeah. I grew up in Western Kansas. No Jewish people. The white person jewfro was unsettling. Rattails and mullets were what I grew up with.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>it’s more of the same no?</em> Joe</p><p>Yeah. I grew up in Western Kansas. No Jewish people. The white person jewfro was unsettling. Rattails and mullets were what I grew up with.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810134</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:40:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810134</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt; You earn a piece of leftover Halloween candy.&lt;/em&gt;this means either good candy with teeth marks or malted milk balls]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> You earn a piece of leftover Halloween candy.</em></p><p>this means either good candy with teeth marks or malted milk balls</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810133</link> <dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:35:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810133</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Who was that, Chief? Blackledge?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Correct. You earn a piece of leftover Halloween candy.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who was that, Chief? Blackledge?</p></blockquote><p>Correct. You earn a piece of leftover Halloween candy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Some Random Old Dude</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810132</link> <dc:creator>Some Random Old Dude</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810132</guid> <description><![CDATA[Who was that, Chief? Blackledge?I was in the loo, so if they mentioned the answer on NFLN, I missed it.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who was that, Chief? Blackledge?</p><p>I was in the loo, so if they mentioned the answer on NFLN, I missed it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810131</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:30:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810131</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Gene Wilder always creeped me out.&lt;/em&gt;it was his jewfro, plus his Willie Wonka was disturbing. Blazing Saddles dislike also has kept me from seeing young frankensteinit&#039;s more of the same no?]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Gene Wilder always creeped me out.</em></p><p>it was his jewfro, plus his Willie Wonka was disturbing. Blazing Saddles dislike also has kept me from seeing young frankenstein</p><p>it&#8217;s more of the same no?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chief</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810130</link> <dc:creator>Chief</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:29:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810130</guid> <description><![CDATA[The last time the Chiefs won a football game with a QB that they drafted, I wasn&#039;t alive yet.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last time the Chiefs won a football game with a QB that they drafted, I wasn&#8217;t alive yet.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: roastbeast</title><link>http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/11/01/thursday-night-football-hapless-chiefs-against-norvals-chargers-feel-the-excitement/comment-page-4/#comment-1810129</link> <dc:creator>roastbeast</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:28:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.thebiglead.com/?p=218738#comment-1810129</guid> <description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;you, sir, are the leading asshole in this comment section.&lt;/em&gt;i&#039;ll wear it, as long as I never have to see black folks punching horses/fletch is 10 times funnier]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>you, sir, are the leading asshole in this comment section.</em></p><p>i&#8217;ll wear it, as long as I never have to see black folks punching horses</p><p>/fletch is 10 times funnier</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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