SEC Missing Out on the BCS Title Game? If Alabama Loses to LSU, and Notre Dame, Kansas State & Oregon Win Out, It Will Happen
Alabama visits LSU Saturday night in Baton Rogue, and even though the Tide are 10-point favorites*, here’s a nightmare scenario for the SEC: LSU wins.
Kansas State doesn’t lose again. (Given the schedule, it probably won’t.)
Notre Dame doesn’t lose again.
Oregon doesn’t lose again.**
The SEC would most definitely get shut out of the title game. The last time the SEC wasn’t represented in the BCS title game? January 4, 2006, when that Vince Young guy put on a show and shocked USC.
Currently, five of the top eight teams in the BCS Standings are SEC teams (Alabama 1, LSU 5, Georgia 6, Florida 7, South Carolina 8). The only teams with a realistic chance of leaping ahead of the SEC posse have to be Florida State, if the Seminoles can beat Florida; Clemson, if the Tigers can beat South Carolina; and Louisville, if it remains unbeaten and UGA/Florida/South Carolina lose a game.
It’s a damn good thing this time next year we’ll be talking about who is going to make the playoff, instead of meaningless bowl game predictions.
* November 3rd has been circled on the calendar for months, and it is a bit surprising to see the No. 1 and 2 teams in the country both heavy favorites on the road. Oregon is up to 7.5 at USC, and that could hit 10 by game-time.
** Who makes the title game in this scenario? Gotta be Notre Dame and Oregon, who both have USC remaining on the schedule.
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October 29th, 2012 at 12:34 PM
The bigger question is how will ESPN, NBC and the rest of the sports media justify Notre Dame’s inevitable jump over KSU and Oregon if all three finish unbeaten? There’s no way an unbeaten ND gets left out of a title game. Too much money at stake for that. So how will everyone move the goalposts?
Last year, “LOOK AT THEIR LOSS!” was the scheme concocted to screw over OSU.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
If USC loses to Oregon but beats UCLA, they make the Pac12 title game right?
Let’s say Oregon wins the title game.
So if Oregon and ND win out, that’s three losses added to USC. Assuming they beat Arizona state and UCLA, would USC being 8-5 impact the numbers for the BCS?
(In short: will the benefit of USC being on the schedule be lessed by their loss total)
October 29th, 2012 at 12:35 PM
This would be absolutely worth it so that I don’t have to hear another fan of a down and out SEC team talk about how awesome their conference is.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Agreed wholeheartedly. They might not be better than Oregon or KState, but will definitely beat one of them out for the NCG in this scenario.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
They just have to jump over KSU. The justification for that would be that both beat OU and ND’s win over USC is better than any of KSU’s other wins (that is probably not true, but whatever). Also ND isn’t going undefeated.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
You sure about Oregon? The computers hate the PAC-12 (the humans love them though). I’d bet KSU gets in over them if everythig plays out.
/would Oregon play USC twice , including the Championship, or does Arizona go?
October 29th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Because they have the hardest schedule in the country by far which is reflected in the computer rankings?
October 29th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Is there a statistical reasoning to why Bama wouldn’t be in the game if they lost to LSU? I don’t disagree with your hypothesis, but you need to show your work.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Unless you were assuming Alabama also finishes unbeaten. In that case they would have to jump Oregon but the justification would still be the same — USC is Oregon’s best win, and ND beating Oklahoma is better than anything else Oregon did.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:38 PM
I will be on LSU at +10, 10.5 and upwards.
USC, too.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:39 PM
huh? OSU was shitty last year.
OHHHHH…you meant t. boone pickens sporting universitarium. your mistake indeed.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
i just want to know why Notre Dame’s schedule is considered the hardest? Does playing Oklahoma, Stanford, and USC make up for playing mediocre teams from the Big Ten, Big East, ACC, and service academies? honest question.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:40 PM
I’m guessing SOS will be the fallback justification if all three teams run the table. Of course, Kansas State will have also won in Norman and beaten Texas Tech, Texas, WVU and OKSt while Oregon will have taken down USC, Oregon State, Stanford and the Pac 12 title game participant.
ND would have Oklahoma, Stanford and USC. Good, but the rest of that schedule is terrible. And if everyone wins out USC and Stanford finish with three losses minimum…good for KSU; not good for ND.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
alabama’s sure played a murderer’s row…who’s better, michigan or cupcake engorged miss state? USC, stanford, oklahoma > LSU, michigan, aTm…if you wanna go that route.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Alabama’s schedule, especially in conference, is weaker than LSU’s and Florida’s. Alabama doesn’t play the OBC, UGA, and Florida this year. their biggest game to date was a shellacking of Michigan.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
spencer, im not disagreeing with you. Alabama is a great team but has also benefitted from an easier schedule
October 29th, 2012 at 12:43 PM
I tend to agree with you. USC will knock them off in LA.
Which brings up another interesting question: LSU (or the SEC East champ) beats Alabama, USC beats ND and Oregon, and KSU trips up against Ok State or Texas.
That would leave Alabama, KSU, ND, Oregon, LSU and potentially Florida/Georgia with one loss.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
That would leave Alabama, KSU, ND, Oregon, LSU and
potentially Florida/GeorgiaBoise State with one loss./fixed
October 29th, 2012 at 12:45 PM
if K-State lost to Texas, they’d be eliminated completely. You can’t lose to UT this year and claim a right to play for the title. That’s a bad team still somehow ranked.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
smallie, boise losing to Michigan State killed their hopes, sadly. Still a good team, but they needed to run the table from start to finish
October 29th, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Sorry but if y’all can’t accept that ND’s schedule is harder than a schedule including Missouri State and North Texas, or a schedule including Arkansas State, Fresno State, and Tennessee Tech, I cannot help you.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:47 PM
easily.
ND played a tougher schedule than KState, and Oregon. IMO. It’s close, but what probably puts the Irish in is … well, the Notre Dame factor.
What metric would you like to use to compare the schedules?
October 29th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Alabama had an easier schedule last year too. They benefit from playing Tennessee in the cross-divisional game every year.
I think the reason people are so high on ND’s schedule is they dont play any MAC, Sun Belt, FCS teams. And they only play ONE of the service academies this year. They play a lot of name schools, but the computers are going to punish them for Michigan, MSU, Miami, USC, etc. being disappointing this year.
Btw i’m an LSU fan and if LSU winning means the SEC streak is broken then I could not care less. Fuck Bama, fuck the rest of the SEC. That said seeing as how LSU is going to run Michigan’s 1975 offense against the best defense in the country I dont think “S-E-C” guy has too much to worry about.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Alabama’s schedule, especially in conference, is weaker than LSU’s and Florida’s. Alabama doesn’t play the OBC, UGA, and Florida this year. their biggest game to date was a shellacking of Michigan. AP
Thank you.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
all this said…yea, alabama’s clearly the best team in the country.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
I know AP. I still think it would be cool to see them in a BCS game with 1 loss, but even I know that they aren’t nearly as good this year as they had been in the past.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
i never said it wasn’t hard. I just want to know WHY it’s considered the hardest by the computers. Is it based solely on reputation and/or name of Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Miami, BYU, and the service academies? I would think that the way those teams have played this year would hurt ND in the computer rankings
October 29th, 2012 at 12:49 PM
well, the Notre Dame factor.
Pfft. It is the Tim Ryan factor.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:50 PM
I don’t carry the SEC flag like some, but I will sure as fuck talk your ear off about how shitty Arkansas team is this year.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Can’t wait for the iconic looting images for this hurricane. Will be hard to top this one.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the BCS has another year. Playoff doesn’t start until the season AFTER next, unless some sort of deal were done with television networks.
Beginning in 2014 means beginning with the start of the 2014 schedule.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
wasn’t OSU 6-7 last season?
October 29th, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Does it start next year or 2014 season? Are they the same thing?
/gets confused easily
October 29th, 2012 at 12:53 PM
It looked tougher at the beginning of the year no doubt. Though the Pitt-BC-Wake murderer’s row was always a soft spot. Probably why ND wanted 5 guaranteed ACC games every year.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
If the Irish go 11-0 heading in to USC and those rat bastards beat them I’ll lose my damn mind. Fuck USC.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
Im not sure that they did play a tougher schedule. Oregon will have beaten two of the three “bigs” on ND’s schedule and KSU also has ND’s best win (at Oklahoma) on its resume along with WVU, Texas, OK State, and Texas Tech.
Your last sentence is more on the nose — ND brings money and ratings.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:54 PM
doubt anyone would argue that. Too bad toughest game is at LSU.
and there isn’t a playoff (this year)
October 29th, 2012 at 12:55 PM
So, a one loss team won’t make it this year? Seems reasonable enough.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Isn’t there one more season of the BCS after this year?
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Fuck Gene Smith. Good game at Nebraska.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
I know there’s an explanation of how Sagarin does his out there somewhere but his courier font choice is giving me a stroke.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:56 PM
OT: Bills fans should start getting nervous about whether or not Mario Williams can actually play out the contract he was just signed to.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
KSU and Oregon’s weak spots are weaker than ND’s and that will bring down their numbers.
Also anyone using Texas as an example of a good win is reaching hard.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
The biggest problem for the media is that there isn’t a dominant conference this year. So they just stick with the idea that the SEC is head and shoulders above everyone else. There is only one complete team in that conference, which IS still more than the ACC, Big Ten, and Big East.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
ha. is that real? Could easily have been his own beers.
October 29th, 2012 at 12:58 PM
I just want to see Alabama v Oregon. an underrated Bama offense vs an underrated Oregon defense. Oregon is giving up an average of 19PPG this year. in 5 pac-10 games so far, they are giving up 16PPG.
side note about USC: the same arizona team that came back to beat USC is also the same Arizona team that lost 49-0 Oregon back in September. I wonder what USC could do with a good coach
October 29th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
ms – Mario Williams has been getting crushed on radio and in newspapers in Buffalo this past week. Well-deserved
October 29th, 2012 at 12:59 PM
I think Oregon could beat Alabama. Too bad their conference will keep them out of the title game.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Definitely some truth there, but they are ranked and are also 6-2. The computers will like that win.
Speaking of computers, Notre Dame’s computer portion is almost at the max already. It can only go down if everyone remains unbeaten. I don’t see them getting in if they all run the table.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
i don’t…bama’s defense eats zone blocking schemes like oregon’s for lunch.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:01 PM
the team that scored the most against Oregon? Arkansas State, week 1, coached by Gus Malzahn. You think auburn fans would love to have Malzahn as their head coach instead of Chizik? Rittyrich would sell a kidney for that
October 29th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
ms – Mario Williams has been getting crushed on radio and in newspapers in Buffalo this past week. Well-deserved
Letting him walk has, so far, seemed to work out well for the Texans.
/may have just cursed J.J. Watt
October 29th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
plus, kelly’s super fast pace doesn’t really work if they’re not getting big plays and first downs. just lets bama bleed out the clock because oregon aint putting up 40 in a half against that defense.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
Sittin’ on the roof, sippin’ a Heineken, watching people & stuff float by…
These are the good times.
Dude’s hairstyle is rockin’.
/kidding, of course
October 29th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
much like almost the entirety of malzahn’s career…dude timed his exit PERFECTLY.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
It will be hurt by playing 4-4 wake forest, 2-6 BC, and 4-4 pitt
October 29th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
There are no other zone blocking schemes like Oregon’s. Especially none being run by the quality of athletes at Oregon. If Bama and Oregon meet in the championship game, that will be the first elite offense Bama has seen all year.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:03 PM
much like almost the entirety of malzahn’s career…dude timed his exit PERFECTLY.
He clearly did not follow Todd Graham’s notes on how to do that.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:04 PM
the whole situation is buffalo is a cluster. bad coaching, quarterback play, defensive meltdowns, and personnel moves
October 29th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
KSU is joint 1 in computer average but they have TCU and Baylor left as well.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
How do you expect LSU to even score against ‘Bama? If I’m a ‘Bama fan I’m more worried about the game the NEXT week against A&M. A&M has the tools to potentially put some points on the board against that D and perhaps catch them napping coming off a big win at LSU.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:05 PM
I cannot root hard enough against Arizona State because of Todd graham
October 29th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
that’s crap…there are A TON of other zone blocking schemes like oregon. it’s seriously as basic a zone blocking scheme as it gets…it’s amazing what having those incredible athletes playing “where’s the ball?” can do for an OL.
jesse williams eats 320 lb. swamp monsters for lunch…he’ll have no problem with 275 lb. skinny boy guards.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
Probably the first elite offense since they faced Cam Newton’s Auburn team in 2010.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:06 PM
KSU’s game with TCU would mean more if that drunkard QB hadn’t been booted off the team
October 29th, 2012 at 1:07 PM
Bama is going to put 8 in the box and force LSU to throw the ball. good luck with that, grass eater
October 29th, 2012 at 1:08 PM
obviously not…but seriously, go back to his HS days. leaves with mitch mustain and DJ williams. leaves arkansas with mcfadden and all them. leaves tulsa before todd graham. leaves auburn with cam…and now he’s got what’s looking like his pick between auburn and arkansas.
timing is everything.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:09 PM
And A&M with a frosh QB would have no shot at Bama in BDS. They were completely overmatched in the 2nd half of both the Florida and LSU games and those were at home.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Spencer, just because other teams employ zone blocking doesn’t mean they do it like Oregon does. Hell, the Michigan teams under Carr were using zone blocking that they got from the Denver Broncos, but that doesn’t mean that they were using it the same way Oregon uses it now.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Bookmakers are practically begging for anyone to take LSU this weekend. Opened at 7 already at 10, wouldn’t be surprised if it gets up to 12. If someone can tell me how LSU is going to score a TD I’m willing to listen. LSU also has lost any special teams advantage they had last year.
This has 27-6 written all over it. Don’t care where the game is being played.
Bingo. If Oregon beats USC and then ND does the same that win over USC isn’t going to mean as much. Hell, USC may not even be in the top 25 if that happens. K-State and Oregon have the best shot IMO of being in the top 2. Oregon can still rise in the computers (needs oregon state and stanford to keep winning) and is already 2 in the human polls while ND has maxed themselves out and will drop by playing Pitt, BC, and Wake Forest. At the end of the year if voters are judging K-State vs ND, I think K-state will get the nod since they have been much more dominant against slightly better competition than ND.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
speaking of overrated SEC teams: if Syracuse can’t go to Columbia and beat Mizzou, I give up forever.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:10 PM
That’s in 3 weeks.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
speaking of overrated SEC teams: if Syracuse can’t go to Columbia and beat Mizzou, I give up forever.
And by ‘forever’ you mean next season, right?
I am forever on that wagon my friend.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Here’s Oregon’s problem – They can’t deal with good DLs. OSU beat the hell out of them in the Rose Bowl, Auburn in the NC, and LSU last year. Even their conference losses have been to teams that play tough.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
While you may be right about all of that, I guess a good lawyer would spin it into Malzahn “making” all of those players and then point to some of the programs’ troubles after he left.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:11 PM
If Alabama loses, I mean.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:12 PM
K-state is better than Notre Dame! They beat Miami by 29 and ND only beat Miami by 28!
/an argument someone will make somewhere
October 29th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Missouri lost their first 4 SEC games before beating UK, still has to play @ Florida and @ A&M.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
One difference this year is that Marcus Mariota isnt Darren Thomas who was a shitty QB propped up by those running backs. Mariota is really good.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:13 PM
ND would be better off not getting in the title game. Hope to run it undefeated and sell another mythical title to the masses.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Also, I woudn’t want to play Oregon in 7on7 or flag football. Ever.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:14 PM
Syracuse has a really good offense. If they don’t turn the ball over (which has been their problem in the losses), they can easily drop 40 on Mizzou.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Lou Holtz would have an aneurysm on live TV
October 29th, 2012 at 1:15 PM
youre not getting me.
oregon’s offense is built on simplicity. their playbook, seriously, has probably a couple dozen plays…the key is to keep the defense on their toes, simple plays that are executed perfectly and designed to attack a defensive weakness based on an incredibly simple read.
the point is…oregon’s offense is based on simplicity. so why the hell would their offensive line be anything more than that? if the offense in general’s high school (not derogatory, just saying it’s simple), so to would be the OL responsibilities.
it’s not demeaning…it just is what it is. and bama’s offense is designed specifically to stop those kinds of offenses.
im not saying just because oregon and northwestern run the same blocking schemes that they’re equally effective…i think that’s what you were getting at with the michigan/denver thing.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:16 PM
if i were gus’ agent, id be shooting that from the rooftops* while asking for an extra $5mm on my contract.
*intentionally cringe-worthy analogy for a UT alum
October 29th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
youre not getting me.
Spencer mad. Spencer crush…with long comment bereft of capitalization.
Where’s Maggs?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Also, Oregon’s D this year is really good. The best D they’ve had under Chip.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:18 PM
yeah, i typed out some stats earlier here. 19PPG overall, 16PPG against Pac12 teams
October 29th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
im not mad…it’s just oregon’s approach isn’t about x’s and o’s, it’s about the application.
and you’re an idiot anyways…i capitalized ‘OL.’ FACE.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
and you’re an idiot anyways…i capitalized ‘OL.’ FACE.
If you were in the military you’d kill the natives.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:22 PM
Zone blocking is zone blocking is zone blocking. You’re doing just that – blocking a zone. Now in Oregon, you may bypass a zone and go directly to the next level depending on who is being optioned.
I’d compare it to Minnesota with Glen Mason, not Michigan. Obviously Oregon has more talent, but like Minnesota where a 300 pounder was an outlier, you’re not seeing a lot of success at the NFL level from Oregon OL.
Michigan used 315-325 pounders who could move and pass protect.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:23 PM
and you’re an idiot anyways…i capitalized ‘OL.’ FACE.
By the way is this what Norwegians call their orgasm face?
/shows self out
October 29th, 2012 at 1:24 PM
of course i would…if i were in the military*, id volunteer for the position to most likely ensure a glorious viking death.
*why aren’t i?**
**glares at metaphorically empty sack of testicles
October 29th, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Oregon has the best chance of beating Alabama. Bama would smash KSU (These running QBs are nothing to Bama), and probably wear down ND. The only problem I have with Oregon beating Alabama is that Nick Saban would have a month to prepare.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:25 PM
is that short for oslo-face?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
LSU is going to get CRUSHED this weekend.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:28 PM
look at michigan’s OL guys that made it into the NFL…jon jansen, steve hutchinson, jake long, jumbo elliot, jon runyan…the list is seriously never ending.
im positively shocked they had competent offensive lines.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Also, I think KSU has a better chance of beating Alabama than Oregon or ND.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:30 PM
atlstylez, Klein at KSU isn’t just a running QB. He is a good (not great) passing QB as well. His passing game has jumped big time from last year. That being said, Bama would still beat them by 7-14 points but I don’t think Bama would blow them out by 20+ points
October 29th, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Was this supposed to be a sensational, “edgy” column? Because if there isn’t an undefeated SEC team, no, there won’t be one.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Part of that was because even though old 3-L Lloyd brought in that system (forget the Oline coaches name), he still liked old-school I-form power football and UM could drvie block with the best of ‘em.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:36 PM
with the talent those michigan teams had on their OL, they could’ve run the “just do your thing” blocking scheme and been fine.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:37 PM
wayback machine is fun
2012 USA Today Preseason Coaches Poll Top 25
Rank Team (first-place votes) Record Points
1 LSU (18) 13-1 1,403
2 Alabama (20)
12-1 1,399
3 Southern California (19)
10-2 1,388
4 Oklahoma (1)
10-3 1,276
5 Oregon 12-2 1,258
6 Georgia 10-4 1,061
7 Florida State (1)
9-4 1,055
8 Michigan 11-2 1,023
9 South Carolina 11-2 981
10 Arkansas 11-2 948
11 West Virginia 10-3 833
12 Wisconsin 11-3 743
13 Michigan State 11-3 717
14 Clemson 10-4 598
15 Texas 8-5 549
16 Nebraska 9-4 501
17 TCU 11-2 499
18 Stanford 11-2 497
19 Oklahoma State 12-1 476
20 Virginia Tech 11-3 461
21 Kansas State 10-3 398
22 Boise State 12-1 271
23 Florida 7-6 250
24 Notre Dame 8-5 166
25 Auburn 8-5 66
October 29th, 2012 at 1:41 PM
positively shocked
/Goldfinger’d
October 29th, 2012 at 1:42 PM
ap, who wins nd vs. k-state in a hypothetical neutral field game?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:45 PM
arkansas at 10? what was the reasoning? if petrino was still coach, there’s no way it matters that much
preseason polls are the worst thing in sports
October 29th, 2012 at 1:47 PM
id say the culture of churning out athletes without giving them the proper education and life experience to carry out their post-athletic lives in the name of profit would be the worst thing in sports…but that’s just one man’s opinion.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:48 PM
auburn, sparty, usc, badgers, horns….seriously, unless injuries are a major factor, what do they base these on? returning starters and last year’s record
seems logical. i’d rather have scouts than sportswriters and coaches do the polls if they have to be done
October 29th, 2012 at 1:49 PM
And ultimately meaningless, not worth the time to get worked up about
October 29th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
yea, but scouts don’t sell magazines.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:50 PM
If Pitt prevails this weekend, I will be here Monday laughing my ass off the way Jimmy Chitwood has promised to be here Nov. 7 laughing his ass off.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Does this include Willie Lyles?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:52 PM
USC and Texas are ranked now, so I’m not sure how their being ranked in the preseason is that egregious.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:53 PM
id say the culture of churning out athletes without giving them the proper education and life experience to carry out their post-athletic lives in the name of profit would be the worst thing in sports
are they tricked into accepting schollies?
October 29th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
I have a sportswriter buddy who keeps ranking teams based on how they were ranked in his preseason poll. In other words, some team ranked No. 2 in preseason now has three losses, but he keeps it in his top 15 over undefeated teams. I ask why, he respopnds, well, they were ranked No. 2 in the preseason, so they must be good.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:54 PM
“here, child…here’s a gun. i hope you can figure out how it works, now go shoot those guys.”
October 29th, 2012 at 1:56 PM
This.
And this.
October 29th, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Admit it, Spencer, the only military you’d join is the Dutch army, where you can smoke doobies all day and wear flowers in your patchoulie.
October 29th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
wait, so BEGINNING in Jan 2014, or beginning in Jan 2015?
October 29th, 2012 at 2:00 PM
/ignores reports of navy SEALs, green berets as well as REMF’s getting baked on hashish in afghanistan
October 29th, 2012 at 2:11 PM
USC and Texas are ranked now, so I’m not sure how their being ranked in the preseason is that egregious.
at 2 and 15 is egregious. must be a weak year
October 29th, 2012 at 2:14 PM
“here, child…here’s a gun. i hope you can figure out how it works, now go shoot those guys.”
i’m sure this is relevant, but let me end on this
if you do not know by now that major college football is a meat factory, you deserve every bit of the devil’s bargain. take your scholly and go to class and learn. or succumb
/makes no diff to me, you are entertainment
October 29th, 2012 at 2:16 PM
And ultimately meaningless,
please educate me on this. serious
October 29th, 2012 at 2:22 PM
They have little bearing on what the final polls are, if you had waited until October people who watched Alabama play would have still had them #1 and so on and so on
October 29th, 2012 at 3:45 PM
ND beat Miami by 38.
If they all finish undefeated, KSU’s best road win will be OU. Oregon’s best road win would be USC. ND would have both of those.
Also, ND didn’t play an FCS team and KSU and Oregon did. If SOS is supposed to matter, this needs to be a key factor.
October 29th, 2012 at 3:46 PM
here’s a nightmare scenario for the SEC: LSU wins
NEVER going to happen – and I am an LSU fan.
LSU’s defense and special teams simply don’t have the big play component this year (thanks TM7), so all the scoring has to come from the offense. While people are quick to criticize Lil’ Rape, the real problem with the offense is an inexperienced O line that can’t pass block for shit, and a terrible set of receivers. I swear to God, if you have watched any of their games, they only have one receiver who can separate (Beckham) and he can’t catch. Almost every pass play is a variation of the screen or a single receiver pattern with mass protect.
LSU v. Bama is gonna be the NC game all over again. Saban will dare LSU to throw and they simply can’t, and they won’t get any scoring from the other phases of the game. 24 – 6 sounds about right.