Why Did Jim Harbaugh Take the Ball Instead of a Safety at the End of the Game?
One of the most bizarre gambling-related endings to an NFL game you’ll see this season: With San Francisco leading 13-6 in the final minute, and Seattle facing 4th down from its goalmouth, Russell Wilson completed a pass that was just short of the 1st down. There was a flag on the play. Clipping Chop Block in the end zone on Seattle, resulting in a safety. San Francisco 15, Seattle 6. The crowd roared. Any fan who took San Francisco -8 (me included) was thrilled!
But wait! Jim Harbaugh declined the penalty. He declined points. You never take points off the board … but Jim Harbaugh did just that. Instead of making the Seahawks kickoff – Seattle would have had to attempt an onside kick, obviously, but without the use of a tee – Harbaugh took the ball around the San Francisco 20 and had Alex Smith take two knees to end the game. Pete Carroll didn’t try any Greg Schiano funny business. San Francisco didn’t cover.
The reaction on twitter was wild, as you might imagine.
Vegas luminary Todd Fuhrman:
You may watch football the rest of your entire adult life and never see something like that again. Who declines a safety? Harbaugh took +7.5
— Todd Fuhrman (@ToddFuhrman) October 19, 2012
ESPN’s Bill Simmons:
PS: Spread was either Niners by 7 or Niners by 7.5… So Harbaugh turning down the safety meant either a push or a Sea cover. Go gambling!!!
— Bill Simmons (@sportsguy33) October 19, 2012
Then the question became: Did taking the ball and two knees actually increase San Francisco’s odds of winning? Pro Football Talk said this: “the percentages suggest a greater chance of winning via two knees out of victory formation.” I only saw the numbers one place:
Harbaugh improved SF’s chances from 99.5% to 99.99% with that decision. I guess I have to support that.
— Andy Glockner (@AndyGlockner) October 19, 2012
Maybe the Seahawks could recover an onside kick! (No tee allowed; last time that happened was, according to this guy, 1980.) Score a long TD, then recover another onside kick and kick a field goal! All in less than :45!
Last argument for why San Francisco wouldn’t take the points: Jim Harbaugh wanted to protect his “hands team” from injury on the onside kick (or two).
The other side to that argument? One nobody has brought up is points in a tiebreaker situation. Maybe two points are the difference between a division title in the NFC West … and missing the playoffs? It is 7th on this list. [UPDATE: As a reader notes ... fumbled snaps do happen late in games. See Rivers last year vs. the Chiefs.]
And then there’s the seedy gambling side of things, which is a joy to talk and speculate about (as I did with Scott Van Pelt this morning), but nobody deep down truly believes anything nefarious was afoot, no matter how competitive “what’s your deal?” Harbaugh is.
Right?

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October 19th, 2012 at 11:17 AM
I’m convinced. Jim Harbaugh is gambling on NFL games. BAN HIM FOR LIFE NOW!
October 19th, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Correct, no one actually believes this…good talk
October 19th, 2012 at 11:19 AM
I see you left out the tweet from Fuhrman to you where he said he was obviously not being serious.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:21 AM
shut it down?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Was a bullshit call anyway, block wasnt low. This is the dumbest thing to “argue” about ever. He did the right thing, why take the chance of injury with onside kicks and hail mary’s and shit.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:23 AM
Oh ok. I was ready to place Furhman in the “moron” category.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Why report Sandusky to the police after you witness him sodomizing a child? ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO DAMMIT!
October 19th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Sad
October 19th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Here we go….
October 19th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Today is the day we figure out which commenter is
BBoBSVP.October 19th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
There were far easier ways for Harbaugh to stay within 7.5 if he really had money on the game.
- This Guy
October 19th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Are you gonna post some of that back and forth between you and SVP?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:26 AM
shut it down?
SHUT UT DOWN!
/Go Ducks
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
There a ballpark estimation on how much longer this meme has before it dies out?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Who is Michael Shamburger?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
It*
I’m really bad at typing.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
“Nothing dumber will be said all day”
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
You sure no tee?….don’t you have the option to punt or kick off from 20? Plus…guys can get hurt on onside kicks…Thursday games are tough enough…take 2 knees and shut it down….
October 19th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
There a ballpark estimation on how much longer this meme has before it dies out
Why would you ask something you already know the answer to
October 19th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
LOL…”A reader points fumbled snaps do happen”. Good lord, have some kind of standard for this site.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
You think our fearless EIC would remember his own team attempting an onside “punt” last year against the Giants and that they came pretty close to getting it, no matter the fact that it created a car crash where someone could have easily been injured.
That’s the only argument and the correct one. What if Seattle gets the onside and then Carlos Rogers tears his knee covering someone or something happens to one of the Smiths?
This isn’t even a topic of discussion. But it is the Internet so carry on.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Onside kicks can hurt players. Why risk injury to anyone when you can take a knee and win?
It’s the same as sliding down at the 1 yd line instead of scoring at the end of a game.
The other team can’t score if they don’t have the ball. They won’t get the ball when the 49ers are kneeling it. Has anyone EVER fumbled and lost possession on a kneel down? Don’t think so…
If the spread was 3 or 20 here, there would be no conversation here. Take ball, kneel down, go celebrate.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Did someone call for a horse to beat ?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
surprisingly, he linked it above in the final paragraph.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I’m still unclear about this too…seems like someone should know, is Lisk still waging war against phone companies or can he provide the answer?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Butters – i believe so. looked it up. college/HS can use a tee
October 19th, 2012 at 11:32 AM
goalmouth
Is that a soccer term?
Who is Michael Shamburger?
The video and .gif guy.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
I am Scott Van Pelt.
/Spartacus’d
October 19th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I didn’t watch the game, because I was sleeping, but just reading the recap, it’s so blatently obvious that he made the right call. You want to control as much as you can in a football game. Taking the ball and a knee takes your opponent out of it completely and puts the entire game in your hands.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
fuhrman is a luminary? cool. he replied to a replytweet of mine concerning the OU-Texas game
i said ‘what are you some kind of luminary with that bs?’
October 19th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
I’m reminded of a scene in the Color Of Money. Paul Newman, former pool hustler, gets drunk and then hustled in a 4th rate pool hall in front of his protege. Embarrased, Newman gives his protege his own stake and then dismisses him. ” I showed you all I got. I showed you my ass in here.”
October 19th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
No sane rational person would possibly claim that Harbaugh bet against is own team. Next, let’s bring in Jason McIntyre from The Big Lead to discuss if Harbaugh bet against his own team. /Fox&Friends’d/
October 19th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
h-town, looks like my 7 was not so shitty, or at least unusual
October 19th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
As seen here. I don’t see a “car crash” but yeah.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I didn’t watch it either, but yeah. Here’s what happened ignoring the penalty: Failed 4th down conversion with 20 seconds left. Why would that team not just take the ball and kneel? I mean, if the clipping hadn’t been in the end zone and had not resulted in the safety, they would have definitely declined that. I just don’t see why it’s any difference that there was a safety.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I am Scott Van Pelt.
/remember the gay rumors?????
October 19th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
You should be pissed at yourself for betting the 8 points. The answer lies within Boss.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
or something happens to one of the Smiths?
protect johnnny marr!
October 19th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
While it may not have been unusual (I hadn’t seen the line moves), it was still shitty. (for you)
October 19th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
The road to Super Bowl XXXI was sparked by Rams players not knowing that the post-safety punt was indeed a free kick and let it bounce before the Packers recovered as they stood around confused…let’s add Rich Brooks to the list of coaches that also deserve an A Football Life installment
October 19th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
HTown you hate the whites. Get out of here with that bullshit.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
/loosens tie, untucks shirt
//just being equal opportunity, we do the opposite for girls
October 19th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Holy shit!
October 19th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
No one ever said SVP would fuck Two-Time US Open Champ Andy North, it’s possible all that sexual tension on the broadcast is just for ratings
October 19th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
it was still shitty. (for you)
eh, a push, paired with a win on the under, makes me ok with it
October 19th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
vladdy you ever caught a muskie? i caught a small one, first in out group after all day fishing. got so excited reeling it in they said ‘hey, it ain’t gonna fit through the eyelets!’
October 19th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Was that on RZC tho?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
All of this. Once I figured out what the fuck was going on last night, I supported the decision. I’m stunned that both teams escaped that game last night without injury. Fuck these Thursday night games.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Guessing there have been about 10,000 end of game snap situations, of which an extremely low percentage were fumbled. Probably less than 10 safety/need onside kick still situations in last 30 years.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:46 AM
That is an incredible fish tale. That is a beautiful fish and they had to do so work to not lose it and then bring it aboard.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
I’m here for the horse beating
October 19th, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Hearing about your fantasy football team >>>>> Bad Poker beat stories >>>>> This story
October 19th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
He was using 8lb fc, a pflueger supreme and a 7ft GL3 med act. G Loomis rods are so expensive. But awesome. I’ve been trying to get a Pflueger Supreme or President on the cheap for a while on Ebay.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:51 AM
I think someone mentioned it above, but, it wasn’t even a chop block. That crew last night was brutal. Marshawn Lynch has never had forward progress called on him that quickly. Reminded me of the scabs.
October 19th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
It is a bummer to sit and watch a game, with neither team you care for, and bet on just to get some action and then it ends it up as PUSH.
And you realize you could have helped with your son’s homework, engaged with your daughter and did 2 loads of laundry and got to bed before 10:30pm
/didn’t really happen to me last nite
//has happened before though
October 19th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Was it the same crew that called Stanford-ND?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
And you realize you could have helped with your son’s homework, engaged with your daughter and did 2 loads of laundry and got to bed before 10:30pm
some of this looks suspiciously similar to what is called ‘quality time’…can someone confirm this?
October 19th, 2012 at 11:56 AM
the drops by the seahawks were brutal. all seemed to be on plays that would either have picked up a FD or been huge gains/TD
October 19th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
This is one of the most embarrassing things you’ve ever published. Tongue in cheek be damned.
October 19th, 2012 at 12:03 PM
So this was a “hate comment,” mr. “Hate click?”
Just checking.
October 19th, 2012 at 12:07 PM
No offense, but I really hope SVP makes fun of you on his show today, JMac
October 19th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Was it on RedZone? If not, then no, he didn’t see it.
October 19th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I thought mentions of TVF were verboten on this site.
October 19th, 2012 at 12:37 PM
/remember the gay rumors?????
Rumors plural? Nope. I remember an email
October 19th, 2012 at 12:51 PM
There was a flag on the play. Clipping in the end zone on Seattle, resulting in a safety.
this is not right. This was not the called penalty. The called penalty was a chop block, but it was a terrible call.
October 19th, 2012 at 1:02 PM
They took a knee and won the game, right? I really don’t see how this is even a thing. Talk radio fodder I suppose.