Scott Pioli is in Trouble in Kansas City, With Maybe Everyone Except the Owner
Scott Pioli went on a “media blitz” tour this week where he spoke with radio stations, television stations and other writers. This was extremely unusual for him to do, and it comes in the wake of the public fire being turned up on him.
Jason Whitlock had Kent Babb on his podcast today, two former Kansas City columnists who both had dealings with Pioli, and they provided some interesting nuggets.
Whitlock, of course, took to calling Scott Pioli by the name “Scott Egoli” before he left Kansas City officially to join Fox Sports. Some of this stems from an incident when Pioli yelled at reporters, including Whitlock, in an initial dinner session after coming to town at local restaurant Garozzo’s.
Babb attributes the fire he’s now facing not only to the on the field performance of the team, but also Pioli’s style since arriving in Kansas City.
“That’s the wild card here, it’s not just that he’s been a bad general manager, it’s that he’s been a jerk to a lot of people. The people that he’s fired and had security escort out of the building, or laid off, and had security escort them out. That’s embarrassing, what’s the purpose of that?”
“It’s because he’s a jerk and he’s not good at his job.”
Babb, you might recall, wrote the “Arrowhead Anxiety” story detailing the environment at Arrowhead last winter, including Todd Haley’s paranoia that his phones were bugged. He also talked about how his style is just not conducive to success, and compared it to visiting the Giants this week. According to Babb, Pioli obsesses about things like the temperature in the weight room, and radio station.
“He’s just too insecure. He can’t not read stuff. He can’t not listen to the radio. He has PR guys listening to every second of every sports radio broadcast in Kansas City, and that’s part of their job, they have to have the radio on all day, listening for things Pioli wants to hear. What in the world, I mean, what’s the purpose of that?”
Let’s just say that my personal experience suggests that this is not completely crazy by Babb. I’ve never interacted with Pioli, but I did try to contact several people in the Chiefs organization to set up a visit to training camp, like we did here with Denver and Andy Glockner, and like Jason McIntyre did with the Jets. E-mails were unreturned as were messages to phones. It’s possible, I suppose, that several different people independently failed to say anything (even if it was no), though I would think it unlikely. Perhaps my appearance on local radio right before the draft begging them not to take Dontari Poe, or this column may have caused me to get noticed, even though our fearless editor in chief writes numerous screeds about the Jets and he had no problem attending camp.
Regardless of any of this, winning cures everything. In the NFL, losing has the opposite effect. Every week is overreaction week after a loss. The Chiefs haven’t had a lead in regulation yet this year, so you can just compound that ten fold. Some of the backlash, though, goes deeper. Fans have started a twitter account to Save Our Chiefs that already has over 77,000 followers–roughly the capacity of Arrowhead.
Pioli has been in the position *only* four years, so if he had maintained good media relations, he might be getting a bit more of the benefit of the doubt. As it is, he has tied himself repeatedly to Matt Cassel with a trade and large contract. As Babb notes, Cassel’s backups have been Brodie Croyle, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Palko, and Brady Quinn, so when Pioli says he doesn’t dictate the starter, that may be true only in the technical sense that he provides no real alternative.
Only one man has a vote, though, and that’s Clark Hunt. His dad was notoriously loyal and hands off, and he’s paid Pioli a large amount to run the organization. Does he want Pioli making the call on the next quarterback, and another rebuild? That’s the only answer that will decide whether Pioli continues in Kansas City.
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October 18th, 2012 at 5:37 PM
damn, what a mess. I know a few Chiefs fans, they are good people, all they want to do is win. a buddy of mine down here has season tickets and drives up for all the home games. They have a pretty damn loyal fan-base, it’s a shame they are run by paranoid assholes who suck at their jobs.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:44 PM
Lisk whipped out his dong and beat the Chiefs with it. Scorched earth motherfucker!
October 18th, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Suck a dick CC! Told all y’all he would suck in Game 4!
October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 PM
what.a.pussy.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:49 PM
Garozzo’s.
Love that place. Chicken Spiedini with pasta and alfredo sauce is where it is at.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:50 PM
Brodie Croyle, Brodie Croyle
Lisk just gave the name of a band to a bunch of talentless hipsters.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:53 PM
Chicken Spiedini with pasta and alfredo sauce is where it is at
That’s what I had the one time I’ve been there, fantastic. I’m more of a Cascone’s guy though.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:55 PM
I’m more of a Cascone’s guy though.
I love that place also. I use their pasta sauce at home.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:57 PM
Between this and his AT&T dustup, I’m seeing Lisk in a different light.
He sounds mellow in a podcast, but off-air he’s ready to beat down a sucka.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:58 PM
There Spiedini Sota(?) might be my favorite italian dish ever.
October 18th, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Committed a “security breach” at work today, and was informed I would be written up if it happened again. The offense? Had my hoodie sitting on my desk, not on the back of my chair or on me. What fucking difference does it make? Get the fuck out of my face.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:01 PM
You’re obviously doing espionage. Don’t you have ties to the former Soviet Union?
October 18th, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Wha? Your company paranoid much? What’s the rest of the deal, Meth? That seems pretty uptight.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Don’t you have ties to the former Soviet Union?
Wish I did. I’d have a much cooler job than this. What I should’ve said is breach this, bitch and dropped my pants.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:06 PM
That seems pretty uptight.
They take precautions when it comes to this place to safeguard customers’ payment information. OK then, why are we allowed to have a pen and paper? So you mean to tell me the reason we can’t have our phone is so that we can’t take pictures of someone’s account, we can’t have a jacket on a desk to conceal us taking boatloads of customer credit card files, BUT we can have a pen and paper. What makes them think we’re not capable of writing the shit down?
October 18th, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Lisk need to start doing some MMA training or something, maybe get a Chinese character tattooed on his neck
October 18th, 2012 at 6:07 PM
Monster, do you often converse with people named “Sleeper”? I’d say you’re following a pattern of behavior that fits the profile your company’s security team has assembled of you.
/Laser dot on the back of your skull in 3…2…
October 18th, 2012 at 6:08 PM
Meth = Neo
October 18th, 2012 at 6:11 PM
Meth, you make a great point.
Sounds like there was good intent initially, but now folk take it too far.
How long was your hoodie on the desk? Did the snitch give you a courtesy warning first, or go ballistic first?
That’s something I don’t miss about the workplace, working with folk who have no perspective.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:13 PM
It all makes sense to me now.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Hey Meth– The crow sees orange when he flies south.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:15 PM
Lisk, when do you actually have time to do yer lawyering*?
*pronounced law-yer-ing to make you feel more at home
October 18th, 2012 at 6:16 PM
How long was your hoodie on the desk?
An hour. It was my boss, she walked by and said, and this is literally word for word, “You better not let (insert name) see that security breach or you’ll get written up.” Said that as she placed a finger on my hoodie. Oh yea? Well why don’t you hurry your fucking fat ass up and get out to your vehicle so I can commit another violation when I crack the top on my CANNED beverage. Not supposed to have those either.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:22 PM
That almost sounded like a courtesy advisory, but her attitude coulda been more helpful/more team-oriented/more respectful. Maybe she’s insecure about her job security? Maybe she can’t bear to take a hit when one of her subordinates gets busted for something?
“Be nice to me. Is that really so much to ask? Talk to me with a decent attitude?”
Almost sounds like you do work for the Chiefs.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:26 PM
It definitely was a courtesy thing but still, it’s trivial. And to call it a security breach? It’s a sweatshirt. Making it sound more serious than it really is just made the whole ordeal laughable.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:26 PM
Lisk, when do you actually have time to do yer lawyering*?
*pronounced law-yer-ing to make you feel more at home
I think Lisk said once upon a time he is a stay at home dad. I could not do that.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:30 PM
I think Lisk said once upon a time he is a stay at home dad. I could not do that.
I’m starting to think I’d be willing to marry a fat chick with 6 kids that aren’t mine and be a stay at home dad vs. working here. At least then I won’t get threatened with the firing squad for being in possession of contraband articles of clothing.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:32 PM
I’m starting to think I’d be willing to marry a fat chick with 6 kids that aren’t mine and be a stay at home dad vs. working here. Meth
Dude, I love my kid, but I could not stay at home every day. No adult interaction for most of the day and tv is horrible during the day. I understand why Lisk can pump out the stat heavy posts. There really isn’t a lot to do. Change a diaper. Play a little bit. The kid take a few naps. Boredom. Oh, and feeding them. Got to feed kids. Very important.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:33 PM
Thick girls need love, too.
/think twice ’bout those kids, though
//”your’e not my daddy”‘d
October 18th, 2012 at 6:36 PM
/think twice ’bout those kids, though
//”your’e not my daddy”‘d
That was definitely a joke.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:40 PM
Really? Ya think so?
/reaches to pat self on the back
//strains shoulder
October 18th, 2012 at 6:41 PM
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Hunt doesn’t care, as long as people are giving him money, and they’ll continue to do so as long as the team at least pretends to care by recycling coaches and gm’s every 5-6 years. What other NFL team do you know (besides Cleveland) that has as rabid a fanbase, that hasn’t won a playoff game in 20 years?
Hunt will just hire whomever is the hot whiz-kid to replace Pioli, without giving any thought to whether the guy actually knows football. And as long as he’s doing that, he’s not going to be able to score truly good coaches, having to settle for also-runs there as well. Guarantee you either Norv Turner or Wade Phillips will be a serious candidate for us within the next 5 years.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:43 PM
I hate to sound like a prick, but at my age a girl that’s already got kids is a deal breaker. She’d have to be very attractive for me to make an exception on that one.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:46 PM
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Hunt doesn’t care, as long as people are giving him money, 88
And Chiefs fans still keep buying season tickets. I heard today that season ticket renewals will go out in November. Chiefs fans will still buy them.
October 18th, 2012 at 6:57 PM
Meth, that ain’t being a prick. A man has to be sure before signing up for that level of commitment. It ain’t easy, but it can be rewarding in the right circumstance.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:01 PM
There is no reason to be an a-hole like Pioli. The terror inflicted on subordinates and their personal lives is great. It is possible to be great at what you do, thoroughly committed and demanding – without being a turd. Remember everybody you terrorized on the way to the top Scott. You’ll see them on the way down.
Hunt should get every Chiefs employee in the lobby, then call Pioli into his office, fire him. And then have Security drag his ass out like he did all those other people.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:04 PM
And Chiefs fans still keep buying season tickets. I heard today that season ticket renewals will go out in November. Chiefs fans will still buy them.
Hard to fault the fans loyalty though. These people mostly got jobbed over on PSL’s so it’s tough to laydown $2-$5k for a PSL, then stop. You also dont want to be a bandwagon fan. In Cleveland, we are all so pumped about the new owner and some of the new talent. I get why some people bailed but I salute those who’ve toughed it out.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:18 PM
I get why some people bailed but I salute those who’ve toughed it out. Scripty
I get what you are saying, but that is a ton of money to pay to be an enabler. Hadn’t factored in the PSL’s.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:21 PM
I know literally hundreds of Browns fans who dont want to get rid of tix b/c it’d be tossing away that PSL stake.
October 18th, 2012 at 7:23 PM
be tossing away that PSL stake.
What exactly is PSL stake?
October 18th, 2012 at 8:03 PM
What exactly is PSL stake?
Personal Seat Licence. You pay (according to Scripty for Browns tickets, $2-$5K) for the right to buy season tickets.
October 18th, 2012 at 8:06 PM
You pay (according to Scripty for Browns tickets, $2-$5K) for the right to buy season tickets.
You pay 2-5k and the cost of the tickets. Or 2-5k everything included. That’s crazy either way. The couch is so much cheaper and more convenient.