Fumble Recoveries: Kansas State and Mississippi State Have Been Lucky This Season
Fumbles are impactful plays that can decide football games. While some might speak of “swarming the ball,” recovering them seems to be the product of dumb luck. Inordinate bad or good luck can dramatically affect a season. Michigan won 11 games last year, recovering 20/25 opponent fumbles and 13/19 of their own fumbles. Opposite fortune might have seen them miss a bowl game.
Here are a few teams that have been lucky so far. This does not predict how lucky they will be moving forward, but it provides some better perspective on some of their accomplishments.
Kansas State [13/18] The Wildcats have recovered 9/12 fumbles on defense and 4/6 of their own fumbles, ranking in the Top 15 in both categories. Where might fumbles have helped them? How about Oklahoma. Landry Jones fumbled on his own 13-yard-line which KSU returned for a touchdown. Blake Bell fumbled on second and goal from the one-yard-line. Recovering those two fumbles tipped a five-point game to Kansas State. That’s the difference between Top 5 right now and barely in the Top 20.
Mississippi State [14/19] Dan Mullen’s team has recovered 7/10 opponent fumbles and 7/9 of their own fumbles. His team benefitted in a narrow 30-24 win at Troy. The Bulldogs recovered a punt return fumble in Troy territory that set up a short touchdown drive. Troy also fumbled away probable points on 1st and 10 from the Mississippi State 30. Either of those going the other way might have affected the outcome.
Louisiana Tech [21/29] The Bulldogs have recovered 10/14 opponent fumbles and 11/15 of their own fumbles, helpful for a team playing a number of close games. Sonny Dykes’ team recovered two fumbles in Houston’s zone that led to short touchdown drives in a 56-49 win. Their win over Illinois was padded by recovering 7/10 fumbles (including all five on defense). They also recovered two of their own fumbles in a 44-38 Virginia win.
Ohio [12/17] The Bobcats have been winning narrow games against bad teams. Fumbles aren’t the only luck they have received, but recovering 11 of 14 opponent fumbles has contributed. They were helped out in the Penn State game by negating a 67-yard-opening drive recovering a fumble. They also recovered 3/4 fumbles including one that set up a 14-yard touchdown in a 38-31 win over lowly Buffalo.
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October 16th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
This site’s subtle hatred of KSU should bring me more joy than it does.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:01 PM
WHERES HIS POWER TOWEL!?
October 16th, 2012 at 4:03 PM
Would be interested to see what the outcomes from the fumbles that weren’t covered were.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:04 PM
*recovered, rather
October 16th, 2012 at 4:07 PM
What percentage of luck would you ascribe to each team?
October 16th, 2012 at 4:09 PM
or KState is good because they are causing the fumbles…
October 16th, 2012 at 4:09 PM
I can only assume K states mascot is pointing to the next kid he’s gonna kick in the head.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
How about a post on TDs called non-TDs by the refs and how impactful they are on games?
/ Stanford’d
October 16th, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Eh, fumbles are the most luck-influenced event in major sports. You can be better than others at preventing fumbles and drilled more to force them. But the causation and recovery of a bouncing football is a total crapshoot.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:16 PM
/scribbles down in notebook
October 16th, 2012 at 4:17 PM
or KState is good because they are causing the fumbles…
What if the fumbles are good because they’re causing K State?
October 16th, 2012 at 4:19 PM
recovery may be a crapshoot, but causation isn’t. They teach players all sorts of shit to cause fumbles like hat on the ball, strip sacks, hold-and-strip, basically anything with strip in it.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:20 PM
Interesting LA tech is on the list…doesn’t it always get brought up how many close games they lost last year when explaining this isn’t a one year fluke for them? I wonder how fumbles treated them last year.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
Yeah — every single team is taught that. So why are some more or less successful than others?
You have 250-300 pound guys hitting a ballcarrier from all angles. Some lineman could block another lineman into the runner, his helmet hitting the elbow at just the right angle to knock it out. Sometimes guys fumble after a big hit, sometimes guys fumble in wide open space. There’s no correlation at all. Its completely random.
What we do is look at teams that cause a lot of fumbles and say “See, they’re a tough hard-nosed physical football team that’s well-coached to strip the ball.” And we believe that myth. The Giants didn’t go to the Super Bowl because great coaching and technique caused the 49ers to fumble. They went because Kyle Williams dropped two punts. It happens.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:25 PM
What if the fumbles are good because they’re causing K State?
I think it is more of a correlation.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
So why are some more or less successful than others?
It always helps when you get to play KU.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:26 PM
Ha!
October 16th, 2012 at 4:31 PM
That’s not what randomness means and you know that, Queefer.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:32 PM
Kyle Williams dropped two punts because he’s not a punt returner. That is NOT random.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Every single QB is taught how to be more accurate. So why are some more or less successful when it comes to throwing INTs?
The answer must be “luck”, obviously.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Stop giving Easterbrook column ideas.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Stop giving Easterbrook column ideas.
Jots down “thread over”
October 16th, 2012 at 4:45 PM
Damn, you’re not good at anything.
Those two dropped punts had nothing to do with “great defensive coaching.” The causation wasn’t “the Giants have great fumble-forcers.” We can’t infer anything about the Giants’ ability or inability to cause fumbles from those fumbles. There are dozens of other factors, including that Williams isn’t a punt returner. That’s my point.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
Kyle Williams didn’t “drop” any punts. One punt hit him in the leg (which was boneheaded yes) and the other one was punched out by Jaquan Williams of the Giants. But let’s just keep saying he dropped them.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:50 PM
Pretty sure Football Outsiders have a really good series about this. There is a lot of randomness even inside of a program from year to year in CFB.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Peanut tillman will be the first Assistant Coach, Fumbles after his playing days
October 16th, 2012 at 4:51 PM
Just another K-State TheBigLead hit piece. Sad really.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:53 PM
Just another K-State TheBigLead hit piece. Sad really.
KSU better win the rest of their games or they’ll be labeled frauds and/or chokers by this website.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Shape of the ball=genius
October 16th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Taking the wildcats +4 this weekend in Morgantown. Shoot out will definitely ensue and couches will be burning!
October 16th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
33% luck, 33% talent, 33% coaching. And 1% “that certain something”.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:55 PM
Colin Klein = bust
October 16th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
Lol.
October 16th, 2012 at 4:56 PM
forgot /sarcasm
October 16th, 2012 at 4:59 PM
What percentage of luck would you ascribe to each team?
10% luck
/Fort Minor’d
October 16th, 2012 at 5:05 PM
KSU better win the rest of their games or they’ll be labeled frauds and/or chokers by this website.
we won’t have to wait that long
October 16th, 2012 at 5:29 PM
I know you folks don’t like “Math” but South Carolina is 119th in the nation in defensive fumble recovery percentage. It’s not consistent year to year. It’s a product of luck.
October 16th, 2012 at 5:44 PM
I know you folks don’t like “Math” but South Carolina is 119th in the nation in defensive fumble recovery percentage. It’s not consistent year to year. It’s a product of luck.
No the other 118 schools ahead of them have better “drills” and practice the “strip sack” more…
October 16th, 2012 at 5:50 PM
Spurrier has always been a weak teacher of the hold-and-strip. Mathematically speaking, of course.
October 16th, 2012 at 5:53 PM
Spurrier has always been a weak teacher of the hold-and-strip. Mathematically speaking, of course.
As you run further regressions you will come to find out it is the visor, always the visor…