Post Game Handshakes, Week 6: Aaron Rodgers and Eli Manning Show Off Their MVP Style to Two Would Be Contenders
This week’s Post Game Handshakes find that everything old is new again, as the last two Super Bowl MVP’s stepped up on the road against the two teams thought to be the best in the league. Also getting a post-game handshake is Rodgers’ former offensive coordinator Joe Philbin, with a bold fake punt that could have sealed the game. Wag of the finger to the Cowboys and Jason Garrett for late game management. Shocking turn of events there.
Rodgers and Eli Manning, Giants and Packers Explode: The Texans are the most balanced team in the league. The 49ers were everyone’s pick for the best. Both got to host the last two Super Bowl winners this week, and we were reminded why each of those teams won titles. Aaron Rodgers and Eli Manning went in and put on clinics, while their defenses stepped up and frustrated the opponent. Everything we know after six weeks is now out the window. Yes, the Packers and Giants may have their flaws, and yes, they played great games. There are no clear favorites for the Super Bowl.
And the Best Team is? The Field? Overreaction week, version 6.0, is here again. Who is the best team? I’m going to ask for your input, because a very informal poll on Twitter last night resulted in the Giants getting the most votes in the aftermath of Sunday’s romp in San Francisco. The same Giants who came into the game at 3-2 and just last week trailed the Browns at home, and boasted a best win against 1-4 Carolina until Sunday.
The Candidates:
Falcons- only remaining undefeated, but just needed late heroics to beat Carolina and Oakland at home, teams that are a combined 2-8 this year.
Texans- undefeated coming in, but just got housed in primetime by the Packers.
Giants- The defending champs put together their best game on Sunday. We’ve also seen them lose in Philadelphia, trail Tampa Bay at home until the fourth quarter, lose to Dallas at home, and trail Cleveland at home.
49ers- Have looked perhaps the most dominant at their best, but now have lost to Giants in convincing fashion, and at Minnesota.
Bears- Off to a 4-1 start with some great defensive performances, and didn’t play this week, so did nothing to change our view.
Packers- Would we view this differently if the call in Seattle had them at 4-2 instead? They’ve beaten two of the teams listed above, fairly handily. The loss to Indianapolis seems crazy now, after having an 18 point lead.
Ravens- Baltimore is 5-1, but have just struggled to beat Kansas City (and yes, that’s a bad thing when KC hasn’t led all year) and just survived a game in which they were gashed and outplayed at home against Dallas for large chunks of the game. Oh, and they just lost Ray Lewis, maybe for the year, and Lardarius Webb. Maybe they get there once Terrell Suggs returns, but there are real reasons for concern in Baltimore despite the record.
Patriots- New England is about 3-4 plays from having a much better record than 3-3, but losses to Arizona and Seattle when they should have put the games away show their flaws.
Feel free to vote at home, and write in candidates if you feel that I’ve slighted someone like San Diego, Denver, Arizona or Minnesota in this list.
Who is the Best Team in the NFL?
- New York Giants (4-2) (33%, 151 Votes)
- Green Bay Packers (3-3) (17%, 79 Votes)
- Atlanta Falcons (6-0) (13%, 59 Votes)
- Chicago Bears (4-1) (13%, 59 Votes)
- Houston Texans (5-1) (9%, 40 Votes)
- San Francisco 49ers (4-2) (5%, 23 Votes)
- New England Patriots (3-3) (4%, 18 Votes)
- Someone Else (4%, 17 Votes)
- Baltimore Ravens (5-1) (2%, 15 Votes)
Total Voters: 461
Ian Rapoport, Gotta Have Those Hands Ready: NFL Network reporter and friend of the site Ian Rapoport (@rapsheet) got caught with this errant ball while along the sideline. Head on a swivel, Ian!
Jason Garrett Continues to Struggle in Late Game Management. Broken record here, and I went off on the end of that Cowboys game yesterday. Garrett may be the worst at end of game management I have seen. Remember, he iced his kicker last year. Yesterday, the Cowboys managed one play in the final 26 seconds, with one timeout in hand, on the edge of field goal range. They settled for a missed 51 yard attempt. His explanation seems, well, let’s just say that a good coach wouldn’t be waffling there. Press the issue, don’t throw an inside slant to pick up a few yards inside and get tackled. Call timeout right away. I didn’t get the sense that he was upset about not spiking it immediately.
Dallas just lost a game in which they out gained the Ravens 481 to 316 on the road, and had the ball for over 40 minutes, and in which things bounced their way to even get that opportunity with an onsides kick recovery. Good teams make their own breaks, or at least take advantage of those given. Dallas doesn’t even want to do that.
Greg the Leg is Human, but just barely: Greg Zuerlein finally missed, three times. While one of them was from shorter, another was from 52 yards and the final one would have set the all-time record to tie the game from 66 yards, and it had the distance. So while several kickers may now have a better field goal conversion rate, I’m still confident that Zuerlein adds the most value because of degree of difficulty. Only two of his 15 makes have been from less than 30 yards. I’ll probably do something on Zuerlein later. It sucks that his misses came in a three point loss, but he’s also been a big reason why the Rams were 3-2 coming in.
Scott Pioli got offered a contract extension, or maybe not: Jason LaCanfora reported on CBS pre game that Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was offered a contract extension of two years before the season, but had not signed it. Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star and Peter King reported that was not true. Kansas City went out and again laid an absolute turd, and so thousands rejoice if this news is untrue. The Chiefs won an overtime game at New Orleans that they never led until the overtime field goal winner. They have not led at any point in regulation yet this year.
The only touchdown for Kansas City yesterday came on the extremely common “Blocked Punt picked up by the Punter topped off by Garo Yepremian Style Interception” Play.
AFC Is a Hot Mess: The Patriots have dipped to 3-3. Houston and Baltimore are the only teams at 5-1, and neither looks like they are playing their best ball and are now dealing with key defensive injuries as we head to the last ten games. San Diego is the only other team that can have a winning record, if they beat Denver at home tonight. If Denver wins, then there will be a seven way tie for the third best record in the conference. That means that the Jets, Bills, Dolphins, and Bengals are all in playoff position, with the Steelers, Colts and Titans a game or less back.
According to the Simple Rating System calculations through six weeks, 12 of the 16 AFC teams are below average. The NFC is 19-9 against AFC teams so far in 2012. Anyone, and I mean anyone, Browns fans, can get hot for a few weeks and be right in the playoff picture. The bar is going to be pretty low to get a wildcard spot in the AFC.
Robert Griffin III, at least as good as Steve Bono: Griffin matched Steve Bono for the second longest run by a quarterback ever. The immortal Steve Bono has now been caught from behind. I’ll let you judge which run was better.
Break Up the Browns and Jets: Shonn Greene, fantasy stud. Josh Gordon, touchdown machine. The Jets rolled over the Colts even without Antonio Cromartie’s two called back pick sixes. The Browns rallied to pull away from the Bengals at home for the first victory of the year. Handshakes all around in Cleveland and New York. You try to bury the Jets by the way, and look what happens.
Fourth and One Log
Very few entries this week, both because of some blowouts, more byes, and just fewer opportunities. “Gambling” still won the day, though.
1. St. Louis went on 4th and goal in the fourth quarter, down 10, and scored on a Bradford sneak to cut it to 3 points.
2. On the next drive, Miami ran a fake punt on 4th and 1 at their own 40, up 3 with 4 minutes left. They converted, and ran off more clock inside the two minute warning before punting back to St. Louis. The Rams tried a 66 yard field goal as time expired and missed, giving Miami the win. Perfect spot time wise, because a failure there likely means you get the ball back with time remaining, even if Rams tie it or take lead.
3. New England up 14-10, 2nd quarter, at the Seattle 6. Belichick opts for the field goal. New England eventually loses by a point. See, even Bill is not immune.
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October 15th, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Stand by my comment from the Colts post last week that the Patriots are not good.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Still think it’s the Texans. As you said, they’re the most balanced team capable of running and passing. Last time seemed like an aberration for their offense and as I said earlier, they lost to a good football team. No shame in dropping one to Green Bay, just need to put up more points on that defensive unit.
The one team I can confidently say it isn’t is New England. Very uncharacteristic of a contender to lose at home by a grip to a team that has proven to be very mortal the last few weeks. Combined with the mental blunders and INTs from their best player yesterday and the cracks are there. Doesn’t mean they can’t represent the AFC in the Super Bowl but they are not the best team in the NFL.
Come at me, Patriots fans.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Belichick really is a genius. Rather than winning every game they can during the regular season, the Pats are taking a page out of the Giants handbook of losing a few games to teams they should beat. Brilliant strategy.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
This whole strategy needs to stop. You’re just giving the guy a practice shot from the actual surface and distance.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Why in the blue fuck would Kansas City offer Scott Pioli a contract extension?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:28 AM
There is no way Pioli was offered a contract extension. If so, Chiefs fans should turn run away. But they won’t. They are so programmed to watch that shitshow every Sunday that Clark Hunt can be as lazy as he wants.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Good for me for not having a single, viable alternative to Greene this week and being forced to start him.
/I know you don’t care
October 15th, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Yep.
Still think the Texans are a much better bet than the Packers for a SB trip, too. Texans have to beat … who? A Patriots team that is as consistent as a shit twelve hours after a hot wing eating contest, a Ravens team whose defense is aging by the day and whose QB is literally a muppet, and …. nobody else?
When did the AFC turn into a complete dumpster fire?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
Why in the blue fuck would Kansas City offer Scott Pioli a contract extension?
To keep the attention away from Clark Hunt who is a very shitty owner. Kansas City has two out of town owners for their baseball and football teams. People bitch and moan and still buy tickets and vote for tax increases. Makes no sense.
/Moved the fuck out of Jackson County four years ago.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Game was in Seattle, but other than that, I agree 1000% with this.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Why do people think the Texans are so good!? The first “real” team they play and they get hosed!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
giants are best
also, vilma to play sunday
October 15th, 2012 at 11:33 AM
Stupid 10am Monday meetings.
Like Collinsworth pointed out, if you hold Foster to less than 2.5 yards a carry, their passing attack suffers bigtime. Alex Green (who?) also looked competent despite the Packers’ notoriously bad rushing offense. I don’t entirely buy the whole “balanced” thing.
Who are the two AFC wildcard teams right now?
October 15th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
I have decided that we do not need to name a “best team”. I voted for “someone else” as a symbolic vote of “no confidence”.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Lisk is a machine.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Giants are really good. The Eagles loss was a fluke. NFC is absolutely scary right now with how good it is.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Unlike Sonny who preferred a head-on approach.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Anyone else get absolutely torched in gambling yesterday? Vegas has to be making a killing off the NFL this year. Not to say that I’m some expert gambler but the unpredictability of the NFL this year is brutal.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Ngata got dinged in the win too. Flacco going to have to be “elite” next week against the Texans.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
I miss NFL Primetime
October 15th, 2012 at 11:37 AM
Lionized.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
Right now? New England, and the runner up from the AFC West.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:38 AM
I voted for Houston but agree the real answer is probably no one.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:39 AM
as someone who’s hopes are both easily raised and dashed, i’ll keep expecting the worst, thanks.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
It’s awful. There isn’t a spread that Vegas can make that’s a mistake besides maybe 2 I can think of this year. Just a weird year. The Falcons have KILLED me this year.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Figures the Browns would catch fire only to burn out and cost themselves a top 6 draft pick.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Being honest, I’d have to give it to Bono. Convincing the entire defense to sell out on the run is impressive. 6.0 40 speed be damned.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
This Falcons team reminds me of their 2010-11 season. Win a bunch of close games against inferior opponents and then get housed in play-off. They are frauds. Don’t believe them for a second. If you can find good odds on them losing first play-off game they play, take it. No easier money can be had.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:41 AM
/pre-orders Super Bowl tickets
October 15th, 2012 at 11:42 AM
That was weird. He wasn’t mad, at ALL. I think literally every other coach would at least be a little pissed off, either on the sideline or at the press conference.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Still seems like more of a 3rd down back to me but he ran hard last night, heal thy foot Benson
October 15th, 2012 at 11:43 AM
The AFC is a hot mess. The Bills are 3-3 with a horrible QB and a swiss cheese defense and still are in OK position.
The Patriots have gotten away with what made them successful in their Super Bowl years (going on 8 years since the last one). They cant win ugly anymore. If the passing game is humming and they’re getting turnovers on defense they can blow out anyone, but the minute things start getting hairy they crumble. Playoff football is often messy, and the Patriots, aside from the Lee Evans/Billy Cundiff game last year havent been winning those games since ’07.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
I really enjoyed Jay Feely running around like a fucking moron after hitting the 61 yarder and subsequently missing the next kick.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:44 AM
Btw the ’12 Cardinals = the ’08 Bills. They’ll finish 7-9 this year.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:45 AM
should read “gotten away from”
October 15th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
True, although usually the Browns wait to beat the Bengals in the seemingly inconsequential end of season game, dropping 7 spots in the draft. It’s their
counter-clockwise swirl with a pinchmove.hyena’dOctober 15th, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Lionized.
Tragically Hip
October 15th, 2012 at 11:49 AM
i saved a bad gambling day with a double win in the snf tilt
October 15th, 2012 at 11:52 AM
I voted for the Texans too?
/all I got
October 15th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
Pats -11.5 take out their frustrations of the loss on the Jets, who come in thinking they’re good?
could make 45-3 look like a barnburner …
October 15th, 2012 at 11:55 AM
I voted Texans, need to see the Packers not crap the bed in St. Louis before truly embracing their return to glory
October 15th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Anyone else get absolutely torched in gambling yesterday? Vegas has to be making a killing off the NFL this year. Not to say that I’m some expert gambler but the unpredictability of the NFL this year is brutal.
underdogs were 11/13 ATS yesterday. thats unreal. i am at the point where i just tease the crap out of the underdogs.
October 15th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
The NFL is too damn weird to bet on anymore, stick with the predictability of college football and the money will follow
October 15th, 2012 at 11:57 AM
5-2 yesterday
http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2012/10/14/nfl-sunday-the-detroit-lions-tries-to-salvage-season-in-philadelphia/#comment-1791564
but then i added Texans, yuck … 5-3.
come on Denver!!
October 15th, 2012 at 11:58 AM
“Someone else” currently leading the Ravens. Joe Flacco is going to go all Yolanda on the comments section here in a minute.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:00 PM
This is so depressingly right. Ugh.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:01 PM
The NFL is too damn weird to bet on anymore, stick with the predictability of college football and the money will follow
this reminds me of a question i had for you lot: i have no college or nfl team i’m passionate about. those who do, how do you compare the highs and lows of each one winning/losing?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
Meaningful regular season v. meaningless regular season.
ND losing to Oklahoma in a hot few here will end their season, that will hurt more than the Steelers losing all their games they’ve lost so far. Granted the Steelers are awful.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
how do you compare the highs and lows of each one winning/losing?
Let’s just say TN losing Saturday may have led to extra beers being consumed
October 15th, 2012 at 12:05 PM
The NFL is too damn weird to bet on anymore, stick with the predictability of college football and the money will follow
this has to be sarcasm. college is worse than the nfl.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Agreed that Josh Gordon is a beast.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Texans fan here. I think the fact that they got completely beat down last night is not really a bad thing. They showed up flat, on cruise control. D still has to adjust without Cushing. This should be a wake up call for them. They still have to learn to deal with success.
I’d vote for the Giants as the best team, even though they are inconsistent as hell. No team seems dominant yet, but the Giants seem like they could be once they hit thier stride.
Texans are still in the driver seat in the AFC. Hopefully they can run it all over the Ravens next week, go into the bye week, and just hold on for the remaining 9 games.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:10 PM
meaning, do you feel worse when your cfb team or pro team loses, not what’s more important, and conversely, which one winning makes you feel more squishy inside?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:11 PM
Now Bill Maas is apparently speculating that Pioli will be canned during the bye week. This origanization can’t even extend or fire their GM without it becoming a total cluster.
If Clark Hunt extends Pioli….well, I don’t know how to finish that sentence.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Obviously one would feel worse with the more important loss, Captain Inference.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:12 PM
It’s all relative to how high the expectations are for each team. Crappy college team, dont get too high or low either way. Pretty consistently good NFL team, losses will hurt you more. Vice Versa.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
Obviously one would feel worse with the more important loss, Captain Inference.
nah, looking for emotion, not logic. i can’t relate, and i see mortified or ecstatic people in the stands every week. especially the mortified, and particularly in college stadiums. shit just seems disproportional
October 15th, 2012 at 12:14 PM
I vote Bono over RGIII. Bono fooled the entire team. So much so that not one other guy even dared chasing him for fear of being embarrassed. 90s Cardinals football everyone!
October 15th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
disproportionate
October 15th, 2012 at 12:15 PM
Hard not to feel for KC fans. What an absolute mess of a franchise.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Did the McRib and high fructose corn syrup get banned forever?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:18 PM
I would love for Steve Bono to QB the Chiefs right now. And I’m not talking Steve Bono circa 1994, but Steve Bono circa right now.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
naked boots are the shit. need to call em more often
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
You see a double-digit dog this year, you hit it. I’ve taken several of these dogs this year, OAK +10 yesterday. Just saw the line for the NYJ/NE game…..NYJ +10.5 Hit it.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
Now Bill Maas is apparently speculating that Pioli will be canned during the bye week. This origanization can’t even extend or fire their GM without it becoming a total cluster.
If Clark Hunt extends Pioli….well, I don’t know how to finish that sentence. Dem
Chiefs fans keep blaming everyone but themselves. Quit buying tickets. If it is really all about tailgaiting and bbq, just agree to meet at the old Bannister Mall parking lot. I can’t feel sorry for Chiefs fans anymore. They are doing it to themselves. And Clark Hunt allegedly feliciates juvenile goats. How does he get his hair to do this?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:20 PM
I took in that loss completely sober. I’m a football masochist.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
And Clark Hunt allegedly feliciates juvenile goats
facilitates them with what? Logistics?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:23 PM
Duckworth?
Cancel AT&T, do it now.
Now Soused, I’m not a dirty be-sodden pirate content whore like yourself how will this effect me?
Well friend if anyone on your home network uses piracy the account holder will be responsible whether someone is stealing wifi or it’s your idiot children.
Thankfully childless and my network is secure you cunty rabble-rouser?
No network is secure and remember when I consume illegal content I will block my IP, this will do nothing to stop piracy while infriging your rights and having your internet succumb to a massive bureaucracy replete with Orwellian education courses. You will lose access to sites, waste time, internet costs will rise and piracy will not be impacted.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:24 PM
Did it become illegal to drive beat up old camero’s? Were mullets banned? Meth shortage?
Derek Dooley is hilariously bad, great hire.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:25 PM
The quintessential Lego snap-on hair helmet.
The sad thing is, I think they are (or at least at one point, were) trying to win in KC. Pioli was a good hire on paper. But he has been a complete and utter failure and fraud without Brady/Belichick to make him look good.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Anon will have a work-around fix in less than a week.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Teams favored by double digits this year are 6-5 against the spread.
So yeah.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Doesn’t Vegas make a killing off every sport almost all the time?
October 15th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Agree on expectations. Jets loss to Pitt in AFC title game = brutal, brutal defeat.
Jets losses to Houston, SF? No surprise at all. Anticipated both of them.
Had low expectations for this year. Frankly, I’d much rather go 4-12 and get a high draft pick. Difference between top 4 pick and say, #12, could be significant, given all their needs.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:29 PM
I recommend http://www.vpnbook.com/
October 15th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Yes.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Falcons will go 14-2 or 13-3 and then lose their first playoff game
October 15th, 2012 at 12:30 PM
Yeah, which is why I love when someone says something is easy money, because it’s a sign they’re a degenerate gambler.
Soused I think I need to get on the VPN train.
October 15th, 2012 at 12:36 PM
My ISP does not give a fuck presently about content but if you are stuck with AT&T or something similar might want to figure it out before those warnings start coming.
/Fuck Cable, they just can’t compete with this