UNC Basketball Players Were Steered to a Naval Sciences Class That Had No Quizzes or Tests
Back in July, we connected the UNC basketball team to the school’s academic scandal that has engulfed the football program. A key figure we mentioned: Wayne Walden, also known as the right hand man for Roy Williams, the legendary basketball coach. Walden followed Williams to Chapel Hill from Kansas, and as the school’s “Associate Director of the Academic Support Program,” one of Walden’s key roles was helping the athletes pick classes. Well, the Raleigh News & Observer dropped a bomb on Walden, Williams and UNC last night – a story the NCAA will no doubt pay close attention to:
UNC-Chapel Hill’s Department of Naval Science exists to produce “highly qualified” officers who serve on ships, aircraft and submarines, or in the Marine Corps.
Enrollment records requested by The News & Observer show that the department had become a popular place for athletes. One class particularly stands out: Naval Weapons Systems, or NAVS 302, which met in the spring of 2007. Of 38 students in the class, 30 were athletes.
Six of those were members of the men’s basketball team. The class’s average grade that semester was 3.63, or better than a B-plus, and the class’ work requirements were deemed so difficult to assess that its structure was later changed.
When the paper spoke to a basketball player who took the class, Bobby Frasor, this is what former point guard said:
his teammates took the class after the class instructor discussed it with counselors in the Academic Support Program for Student Athletes, a program that helps athletes stay eligible academically to play sports.
“He told our academic advisers, but I had never heard of the class, and basically, our academic adviser recommended it and we enrolled in it,” Frasor said.
That’s Wayne Walden. Guess how many other Naval Science classes basketball players took over the last six years? Zero, according to the paper. It’s probably just pure coincidence that nearly half the basketball team – including Tyler Hansbrough – ended up in a class that had no quizzes or tests, right? [News & Observer]
Previously: North Carolina Academic Scandal: Why Did Basketball Players Stop Majoring in African and Afro-American Studies in 2009?
Previously: Mother of Tyler Hansbrough Involved in Fundraising Scandal That Has Cost Two UNC Employees Their Jobs
Previously: Check Out the Classes Julius Peppers Took in the Spring of 2001 to Be Eligible for Football in the Fall
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October 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
To be fair, this class sounds kinda awesome.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
/watches J-Mac light cigarette
//then coughs uncontrollably
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:00 PM
Shocking: http://www.tarheelblog.com/2012/10/3/3448592/latest-kane-athletes-like-to-take-easy-classes-together
And really, TBL, please drop the Barry Horowitz routine on this story.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:01 PM
if i was lighting a cig, i was also downing scotch … but over the frustrations of our TECH SUPPORT
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:02 PM
but over the frustrations of our TECH SUPPORT
Put a dip in. Calms the nerves.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:03 PM
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 PM
/lights cigaweed
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:04 PM
One class particularly stands out: Naval Weapons Systems, or NAVS 302
Insructor MS621
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Can you explain this reference?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 PM
That class sounds cool as shit.
The NCAA is going to give PSU another year of sanctions because of this.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:06 PM
And really, TBL, please drop the Barry Horowitz routine on this story.
/Der Kaiser
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6XrGbc1Ulg#t=23s
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Was the class syllabus written in lint?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Old WWF jobber whose gimmick was always giving himself the proverbial ‘pat on the back’. He’d punch a guy, preen to the crowd and pat himself on the back only to turn around and eat a finisher.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Pretty sure that as long as they weren’t keeping out non-athletes, that this is permissible action.
This is obviously shady as hell…but by no means is this a “bomb” being dropped. Is this any worse than my fraternity catching wind of a class that had an easy as pie take home final that was 100% of your grade…and the entire fraternity registering for the class over a 2-year period.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:10 PM
This, that, and all of it. This is a NONbshell.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 PM
To this day my dad still makes fun of Andy Katzenmoyer taking classes in “golf, music and AIDS Awareness”
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:11 PM
Pro Wrestler – kind of a jobber who got a little push at one point as an underdog. Most famous for stopping mid-match and literally patting himself on the back after a slam/big move
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Yet again, you fail to mention that the NCAA is keeping an eye on things. This article kinda ruins your narrative about the NCAA being aloof of the happenings in CH
http://espn.go.com/blog/north-carolina-basketball/post/_/id/9837/ncaa-still-monitoring-unc-investigations
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:15 PM
That was my thought as well. It sounds like regular students at UNC were able to take this same class and also not take tests or quizzes. I’m also pretty sure there are other ways to grade students without tests or quizzes. I took classes when at UNC that had no tests or quizzes but did have papers and group projects.
That is from the article. So they were given other standards to prove they knew the material. Are you all really telling me that you didn’t have classes at your colleges/universities where there weren’t tests but were projects/papers?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 PM
This sounds like a class I would have taken to meet some kind of core requirement. And it’s a junior level course so the structure can be more loose. I took a lot of classes that didn’t offer any sort of challenge and were just for the sake of a degree. Somebody should investigate CSUN for their scandalous attempts at keeping me eligible for depth in the film department
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Migrate everything over to Media Temple, your life will become 3% better. Trying to get my company to move all sites there, may make international news as a hero for throwing our IT guy out a 5 story window.
/If you are in IT and reading this stop over complicating everything, simplify you fucks, you are not smart or important
//may be projecting
///desk bar is so dry I keep seeing mirage booze in it
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:18 PM
I’m fairly certain Woodward and Bernstein have started writing a book about this class and my sources tell me Lionsgate have already bought the rights.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:20 PM
I just can’t fathom a university giving athletes special treatment, especially helping them with classes and grades. University presidents and board members would never allow such garbage to go on.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:22 PM
I have a BS and an MS in civil engineering – this never happened even in the general education classes I took with one exception – Public Speaking.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:24 PM
Pretty sure teaching serfs weapon training is about as dumb as it gets.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Then you had professors that were not employing best practices. There are multiple ways to assess knowledge, and tests/quizzes are not necessarily the most efficacious measure for all types of classes.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:26 PM
You fucking cheater. Hey everyone, look! Roeth is a cheater!! HEY!!! CHEEEEE TERRRRR CHEEEE TERRRRRRR
/says no one
//because everyone has had a class like this
///dont lie
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 PM
BIL-LY WAG-NER! clap clap clapclapclap
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Thanks for the explanation on the Horowitz reference. I googled it and came up with the aforementioned wrestler, but that just made me more confused.
/also learned the term “jobber”, I think…grunt work, shit-stirrer?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:27 PM
Probably my favorite class ever. We had a guy that would come in every week dressed as a current or former wrestler and cut an off the cuff promo against someone else in the class, the instructor, etc. I thought it was brilliant, not sure what the instructor thought.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Guy who loses every match. Cannon fodder.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
I am now Barry Horowitz-ing over my reference of Barry Horowitz. It was stellar.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
By all accounts, Duke is in on the Naval Sciences class.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
maybe the NCAA will have your view
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Link?
I have a BS in EE and I can’t imagine going through that curriculum and not being tested on it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 PM
Keep it up, kid. you deserve it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:30 PM
The Bylaw Blog guy has said that the NCAA could go after them in this case. There has been a traditional reluctance on the part of member institutions to have the NCAA involved in the schools’ business, but the authority is there.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:31 PM
Fuck this, at my University I make it rain bitcoins for my serfs, classes include ‘getting a vasectomy’, ‘introduction to peek-a-boo’ and ‘NCAA rules regarding amateurism; a practical assessment in keeping your fucking mouth shut Tyrone.’
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:32 PM
We had to do a “how to” 10 minute presentation in my class. I set up an artificial tree and discussed proper ways to teepee it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Non-traditional testing methods in Naval Sciences is a game of Battleship…of course Julius Peppers lost all of his and took a D-minus in the course
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Didn’t they already make this clear once?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 PM
I don’t want to inundate you with links John, but just in case your google machine is broken:
http://pandora.cii.wwu.edu/cii/resources/outcomes/best_practices.asp
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:34 PM
Jim Tressell should write the textbook for that one. Hindsight’s always 20/20, right?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:36 PM
So now the Naval Academy is conspiring with UNC to offer easy classes to athletes? Jason, have you alerted the White House about this story? I’m sure President Obama would like to know about this. THIS IS A MAJOR NEWS BUDDY. I’m contacting CNN, Fox, ABC, CBS and NBC right now and linking them this story so there can be full scale investigation into this.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:37 PM
Dying at the fact that a jobber WWF star had the most Jewish lawyer name possible.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:38 PM
Everyone should have his view. Did you read the part where there were papers and a group project to determine the grades? You make it sound like this was some class where grades were just handed out without any form of assessment.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:39 PM
Exactly. If I had an elective to burn, I would totally sign up for this course, and then not take any other Naval Science courses.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:40 PM
There isn’t a minority group in existence that Vince McMahon can’t find a way to take a stab at.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:42 PM
Still think Marquette University throwing rape allegations against its student athletes under the rug is worse.
They don’t have a football team though. Sigh.
/continues to beat the drum
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:43 PM
Notre Dame does though….
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:45 PM
I thought Barry Horowitz was the guy that used to write the sponsored posts
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 PM
To sum, J-Mac took nothing but difficult classes in college, mixed in with a few teabaggings of his bros.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:46 PM
Where is Spencer? Is he okay?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 PM
Jason, since you seem so concerned about athletes and the classes they take during their time at college would you mind doing all of your readers a big favor.
Please release your college transcripts on here for everyone on here to see. Also we would appreciate if all of your writers and staff would please do the same. I mean you guys are so critical on the subject of classes that athletes take then I see no problem with you or your staff releasing your transcripts for your loyal viewers to see.
Come on Jason what do you say?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:48 PM
You’re incorrectly inferring that the only measure used by my professors was quizzes/exams. That’s not the case – there were PLENTY of projects, presentations, etc. But, all of those classes ALSO had exams, quizzes, etc.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:49 PM
That was Barry Janoff
/good comment
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:49 PM
He is good. New job and all, getting settled in.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:50 PM
Please release your college transcripts on here for everyone on here to see. Also we would appreciate if all of your writers and staff would please do the same.
Also, his birth certificate!
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Don’t forget tax returns for the last 10 years. Might as well get a full picture of his ability to run for office while we’re at it.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:55 PM
My English Master’s program classes almost exclusively used large writing assignments as finals, but then an English Master’s program doesn’t actually teach you any skills.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Nope, that is what you want my statement to say. I was simply responding to your statement that you only had one class that had not tests or quizzes. I am assuming you took other general education classes. I am also assuming that you took some sort of English or literature class. Using non-standard assessment procedures has been illustrated to be extremely effective in those two fields.
Not that any of this matters to the point that Jason raised. The point there is that he is once again beating something into the ground without doing even minimal research into the subject matter, all while looking at it from some falsely perceived moral high ground.
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:59 PM
What was his name, this English Master?
October 3rd, 2012 at 1:59 PM
My English Master’s program classes
What was his name, this English Master?
Bill
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 PM
How soon can we see your transcripts posted online Jason?
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:01 PM
Thanks Cleet!
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:06 PM
TRANSCRIPTS!
TRANSCRIPTS!
TRANSCRIPTS!
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:07 PM
bullshit. spencer is dead. I saw it happen too. he was playing guitar and hitting the bong. a guitar string popped and whipped around the bong causing it to shatter. spencer was cut by the glass in the peen and the dirty bong waters infected his wound. he lost his peen to infection, but managed to recover fully after 4 rounds of antibiotic treatments. the loss of his penis caused an imbalance problem though (penises are like a cat’s whiskers for you chicks that don’t know any better…removal of them exacerbates clumsiness) and he fell off a cliff.
/RIP
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:09 PM
And out of nowhere, a new frontrunner for the banhammer emerges.
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:10 PM
I’m still laughing at the pic above. The Spartan looking cross-eyed at Hansbrough, as if to say “this dude scored on me? WTH?”
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:14 PM
And out of nowhere, a new frontrunner for the banhammer emerges.
Nah, Miz has been banned before
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Nah, Miz has been banned before
Np, the guy yelling for Jason’s transcripts
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:38 PM
This UNC scandal is getting way out of the hand. The NCAA is now sure to crack down … on UNC Asheville.
October 3rd, 2012 at 2:40 PM
What is the problem with this request PeerlLess?
Why shouldn’t Jason be willing to share his transcripts? He sounds like he is all for the academic integrity of universities so I see no problem with Jason sharing transcripts with his readers so we can see what kind classes he took while in college. I mean I’m sure Jason didn’t take any such classes like the ones described above.